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Offline GunnerCAF

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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2003, 12:17:30 PM »
This sounds like software that runs on the server.  HTC controls the server here, how do you know what cheat checking programs they have on the server?

If you suspect cheating, film it and mail it to HTC.  They will take it from there and I have never seen results posted openly.  This seems like a good idea to me.  If the hackers knew what they used to detect cheats, they could defeat the detection.

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2003, 02:42:29 PM »
Spend 10 minutes to search the internet for Counter-Strike cheats.
If you're done try the same with cheats for Aces High.

See any difference? :)
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2003, 02:55:09 PM »
Yeah Punkbuster is all fine and dandy till it boots you off a Ravenshield server for no reason. :)
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2003, 03:09:50 PM »
There is an assumption here that HiTech does not have this type of cheat check running on his server/game.

What make you think that he doesn't aready have some sort of cheat check(s) already in place that he wrote himself. Also, it would not be something that he would share with just anybody. When you write "trapping" code, you don't go public with the info.

This Tony Ray guy is probably a very clever programmer, but I don't think that his programming skill level would be anywhere near the level of HiTech, nor does anybody know the internals of AH better than HiTech.

The trap may already be set so be very carefull.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2003, 05:43:00 PM »
To keep things in perspective, AH has had proven cheat cases. P51's were dropping dozens of 1000lb bombs and lancs dropping hundreds of drunks.

And for every one that gets caught, 10 go undetected.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2003, 07:06:55 PM »
That case occurred 3 years ago.  Ever wonder why that's the only case of cheating used to prove cheating exists here on the BBS?  

HT finds cheats, he bans them.

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2003, 07:44:43 PM »
Take it from someone who has experienced HTC's wrath on hacks and cheats, it is not tolerated one bit. I simply posted a troll in a thread about inducing warps and got my tail banned. Why? Because, as HT told me on the phone, accusations of cheating are just as deadly to an online game as actual cheating.  If someone were to post a warp-cheat, even if it didn't work, people would still scream "cheat!" on every plane that takes a sudden warp and soon there would be pandemonium.
I also remember someone posting a link to a cheat site for online games that affected the packets in some way and HT responding on the boards that he had to ban several accounts for using it so evidently he does have software in place to monitor these things and I'm sure takes swift, decisive action when proved. They don't post or announce the bannings to the community in general but without a doubt they are policing the game.
I learned my lesson well. Think someone's cheating... film it, mail it, and then let HTC take care of it. Anything else such as screaming on channel 1 or coming to these boards with accusations does nothing to resolve the situation and only takes away from the community/game.

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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2003, 08:47:57 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2003, 10:21:40 PM »
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Originally posted by SlapShot
There is an assumption here that HiTech does not have this type of cheat check running on his server/game.

What make you think that he doesn't aready have some sort of cheat check(s) already in place that he wrote himself. Also, it would not be something that he would share with just anybody. When you write "trapping" code, you don't go public with the info.



Slap...

He does. He also makes sure to check out accusations of cheating as well (even though most of them are bogus). Which is why this thread is moot :).
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2003, 10:39:01 AM »
NB,

After meeting HT at the con and having a long conversation (bored the crap out of everybody else .. hehe) about when we starting our programming careers, what languages we had used, and past applications we wrote and developed, I had no doubt that the traps are in place.
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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2003, 06:35:35 PM »
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Personally I think air warrior needed this more than ah....



Air Warrior needed far more than PunkBuster...



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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2003, 06:40:22 PM »
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Originally posted by GunnerCAF
This sounds like software that runs on the server.  HTC controls the server here, how do you know what cheat checking programs they have on the server?

If you suspect cheating, film it and mail it to HTC.  They will take it from there and I have never seen results posted openly.  This seems like a good idea to me.  If the hackers knew what they used to detect cheats, they could defeat the detection.

Gunner



It's both a server and client side application.  If you play on a server that uses PunkBuster, you need to have the client version of PunkBuster in order to have to play on a PunkBuster server.

In case for those that don't really know all PunkBuster does is check the files on the client to see if they match the files on the server to prevent using hacked models or scripts.  I'm pretty sure that AH does the same process when you log on, so really PunkBuster isn't needed nor it it designed to work with MMOG games.  If you notice PunkBuster is only on FPS online games and not for MMOGs.


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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2003, 12:51:37 AM »
Oh he said "the word"...Im in.

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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2003, 03:05:26 AM »
AW needed more for sure, something worthy of the name 'B**chslapper' might have worked.

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