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Offline daddog

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What aircraft were used in the invasion of Sicily in 43?
« on: May 17, 2001, 05:53:00 PM »
I am looking for the Axis and Allied aircraft that were used.   Specifically those we have in Aces High.

Thanks in advance.  

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Offline gatt

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What aircraft were used in the invasion of Sicily in 43?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2001, 01:37:00 AM »
June, 1943 ... I think AH still miss too many a/c or variants. AFAIK, only 109G-2, 109G-6, C.202, C.205, Ju-88 and B-26 were probably there. No B-17G, no P-38L were there. AH needs earlier P-38, the P40 and the P39.

But if you use Typhoons as Beaufighters then you can do everything   Jokes apart, so far AH scenarios are not very interesting from an axis POV, *imho*.  

Bring 1941-43 a/c and a rolling plane set!

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What aircraft were used in the invasion of Sicily in 43?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2001, 02:17:00 AM »
The Tiffie (Beufighter) roadkill retarded idea thing was beyond rediculous and it really turned me off of AH scenarios.

I suppose the next time when we need Mosquitos theyll use Tempests as stand ins...

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What aircraft were used in the invasion of Sicily in 43?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2001, 02:40:00 AM »
it's me or this guys is more and more annoying ?
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2001, 06:11:00 AM »
One last friggin time  

The Typhoon was used in Afrika Corps soley due to the fact that I didn't want the allied side limited to a single fighter type when we had another that fit the correct time period.

Call it what you will.

If you didn't like it tough toejam.

The ironic part is that the Typhoon had zero, and I mean ZERO impact on the final outcome of the scenario. From all the squeakes and moans you would think it totally unbalanced the event.


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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2001, 06:31:00 AM »
Just for the sake of it...

THANKS again Verm. AH was my most pleasant time in AH. (Could not make the Hostile Shores registration schedule   )

I really appreciate when somebody works for me for FREE. I do not care if its a Zeke vs. Tempest scenario and I have to fly Zeke. Nobody obligues me to join. If I do, then I take the pros and the cons. Even if I fly Zeke.  

Again (and again and again) thks for a wonderful job.

Cheers,

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What aircraft were used in the invasion of Sicily in 43?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2001, 06:41:00 AM »
The Tiffie (Beufighter) roadkill retarded idea thing was beyond rediculous and it really turned me off of AH scenarios.

Verm did a LOT of work setting Afrika Corps up and IMO did a fine job with the available plane set.

I challenge you come up with a scenario concept, create a terrain for it along with all the supporting info and website.

Taking a piss on his efforts is a toejamty thing to do - you should shut until you prove you can do better.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2001, 06:51:00 AM »
jihad,

Even if he can do it better, his post is way off track. AK engagemet was free. You join if you like. If you dislike, it is a simple task not showing your nose around anymore. If you feel you should, just point why. Anyone posting why should bear in mind the awful load of work behind the scenario (any of them). Anyone failing to realise that is hardly likely to appreciate words like politeness, education, thankfulness. Most likely selfishness (sp?) is on top of their dictionary even if it does not starts with an A.

No need to point he should shut up. On his side, most likely he won't understand the concept. On the rest's one, his post speaks clearly for himself. Ignore him.

Cheers,

Pepe

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What aircraft were used in the invasion of Sicily in 43?
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2001, 06:52:00 AM »
Grunherz, you are an un-grateful butt-hole.  It's guys like you that discourage people from being involved in the creation and running of campaigns.  I hope the CM crew notes your name and toejamcans your registration for the next scenario.  It wouldn't be worth the BS to have you in it.

Verm, the majority of us really appreciated all the work you did for the community.  A big <S> from the silent majority.  

Lephturn
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Offline gatt

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2001, 07:30:00 AM »
Verm's work has been outstanding. His Med terrain is probably the best I've ever seen in 4 years of WB+AH online flying (and 3 years of real flying, btw   ). I'm sure GRUN understands it.

The problem was and still is the limited plane set. IMHO, and I can be wrong, in the first year HTC should have built a plane set with the best MA/scenario use. The actual set is probably too much MA oriented, with those speed, cannon monsters and war winning a/c.

The lack of early-mid war planes dont allow our CM to build balanced scenarios. Almost all late '43 --> half '45 air battles are lost for the axis side. All ampibious operations from half 1943 to half '45 are hopeless battles for the axis side. Same thing for CV v/s CV battles in the Pacific.

Late-very-late war is an intersting new thing in online sim, indeed, but balance is the key, both in Main and during scenarios, *imho*. <S>!

GATT (ret.)

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2001, 07:34:00 AM »
Hey all I said that the tiffie beu thing turned me off of historic scenarios, by ur reactions, man u think I said some really bad.  

Yes I do realize that scenarious are more difficult to put togeter than I could manage or have the time for. Its a very complex thing to make the websites, terrains, maps, and organize. So I certaily dont intend to demean all that effort, just that really wierd logic of how tiffie is a beufighter.
Thats all....
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Offline Pepe

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2001, 08:28:00 AM »
Grunherz,

It's not weird logic, It's called lack of alternatives and designer's choice.

I would say that The Tiffie (Beufighter) roadkill retarded idea thing was beyond rediculous and it really turned me off of AH scenarios. is rather demeaning of the effort put on this....to say the least. And this kind of "flowered" assertions are more common by the days  

Stand back, direct your post to yourself and, if you feel good about receiving your own comment, go post it. I doubt you would feel quite OK if you received from anyone your very post.  

Cheers,

Pepe
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What aircraft were used in the invasion of Sicily in 43?
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2001, 09:32:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Lephturn:


Verm, the majority of us really appreciated all the work you did for the community.  A big <S> from the silent majority.  

Lephturn

 HERE HERE    <S> ...SIR  



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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2001, 10:17:00 AM »
  One question, one answer, and tons of pissing contest posts!  

Cheers to all scenario developers!  You guys do a great job from what you have to work with!  <S!>  I had a blast in the last frame of HS, even though I royally sucked!  I'm looking forward to flying some scenarios with the Mongrels!  
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