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Offline GScholz

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Low speed snap rolls ...
« on: October 12, 2003, 12:22:25 AM »
Seeing how many runstangs and La7's there are in the MA lately I've been flying the Dora again. Now there is one thing I find a bit strange. According to just about any source I can find the 190 had a nasty snap roll if stalled at high speed ... under significant G load. At low speed and low G load I find nothing that indicates that these planes snap rolled. From what I've been told the 190's less than flattering departure characteristics at high speed comes from the fact that the wing twists under high G loads. In AH however you can stall the 190 at close to 1G and it will still snap roll (I found this out when I inadvertently shut the engine off during landing ;)).

To my surprise I find that the Dora can be quite fun to fly in a knife fight, however it is very dangerous to do so in a slow and low turn fight because if you sap roll you die. I was wondering if the people in-the-know about such matters could enlighten me as to if the 190 (and P51) indeed did have horrible low speed stall characteristics or not.

Thanks!
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Offline Toad

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Found this
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2003, 12:57:52 AM »
http://www.acepilots.com/german/fw190.html

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Hermann Krafft’s I./JG.51 pilots learned about the airplanes vicious stall characteristics. Below 200 kilometers per hour (127 MPH), the port wing would abruptly fall off. In a tight turn, it could flick over and go into a spin. Properly controlled and with sufficient altitude, a spin could even offer an escape; no Soviet plane could match it.



Looks like I'd start my search with old Hermann and his JG.
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      • http://www.terra.es/personal2/matias.s/fw190.htm
Low speed snap rolls ...
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2003, 04:55:45 AM »
The referenced plane should be an early model, perhaps 190A4.

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Low speed snap rolls ...
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2003, 06:37:24 PM »
No other takers? ... Have to go with Hermann then.
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