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Offline JB73

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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2003, 03:30:35 PM »
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The only people that wave the fanbois finger around are fanbois.  Just FYI. :D
HAHAHHA Skuzzy.

but seriously i am about to the point im going to buy the MSI GF4Ti4600 for $170 off newegg.com

im just suprised noone else has any good sites to shop from.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2003, 03:44:53 PM »
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Offline Westy

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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2003, 04:07:57 PM »
(edited out the info on the Asus card. It's an SE version which is 64bit and not 128. Worst of the 9600 lot I believe)

 My problem is I've not a clue as to what is a good card anymore. What ius compatabile with my system or whether my OS is supported or not.  Abit, Asus, Nvidia, Diamond.... alll brand names I was used to and came to trust.

 And man. Going to a duel boot system so I can use Win98Se for my old CH gear is gonna be a pita  :(

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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2003, 04:35:05 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2003, 02:06:38 AM »
You can get the 9600XT here now for about 200$ incl taxes etc. so i guess you americans could get it cheaper than that.  :aok

Im getting mine next week.... to bad i dont have a system to put it in yet.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2003, 06:17:26 PM »
Thanks, everyone, especially Skuzzy. I'm in no hurry; I'll wait for AH2.

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2003, 06:31:59 PM »
Hmmm.......Currently a GeForce 3 user.  New card soon, so tell me why not a 9700 or 9800?

Thanks! you may be saving me some time here

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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2003, 09:56:36 AM »
I am also looking to upgrade my video card and appreciate all this information.

My question is how do you know if you need to upgrade your power supply and cooling abilities of your system to meet the demands of the new system?

Thinking about getting the 9600 pro.  Upgrading grom G4 MX 440 on a p-4 2.0 with 512ram 2100 Dell.

Thanks guys for all the usefull info.


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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2003, 11:21:26 AM »
The 9700 was/is based on the R300 ATI core.  While being a rather incredible design, it had flaws.  The 9800's R350 core increased the performance of vertex shaders, corrected a couple of issues, and increased stability.
Overall performance for the R350 is up due to a new layout design which allows the R350 to clock higher than the R300, while maintaining the power draw (keeping the heat down).

Quite frankly, very few systems can take advantage of the 9800Pro's performance.  You need a good solid 2.8Ghz P4 (AMD users need even more due to the lack of SSE2 instructions, or an AMD chip that supports SSE2) or faster system to really be able to push this card near its limits.

Nothing wrong with the 9800Pro or 9800XT.  Fine products and definately the fastest you can get right now.  The price/performance difference between the 9600XT and 9800Pro is pretty extreme.  A $75 to $125 difference for a 15% to 20% gain in performance is prety expensive.

Of course, if you buy a video card once a year or less, then the 9800Pro or 9800XT makes more sense as you are going to live with that card for a long time.  If you buy every 6 months, then it makes sense to buy the 9600XT as in 6 months, there will be a much faster card available.


Power supply.  If you buy the 9600XT, power will not be so much of an issue.  The 9600XT does not need an external power plug, which means it meets the AGP bus specification of 48W or less on power draw.  This is significantly less than the 9600Pro/9800Pro cards.
The 9600Pro or 9800Pro are hungry.  If you run a 2.4Ghz (or equivalent) CPU or faster, with a high speed FSB, I would recommend the 430W Antec TruPower as a minimum.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2003, 09:34:50 PM »
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Of course, if you buy a video card once a year or less, then the 9800Pro or 9800XT makes more sense as you are going to live with that card for a long time.  If you buy every 6 months, then it makes sense to buy the 9600XT as in 6 months, there will be a much faster card available.2


the last card i bought (the current GF MX440) i got over 2 years ago almost... cost me a cht load then like $110 (cht load relative to what i was buying i mean)

my question to you then is the Ti4600 i just bought i plan to not replace untill i do a complete sys upgrade in maybe 1.5-2.5 years.

will i be able to fly AH for that long with the Ti4600 ?
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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2003, 12:45:25 PM »
Probably.
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2003, 12:53:57 PM »
Skuzzy, are you saying that the faster 9600XT actually needs less power than the slower 9600PRO?

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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2003, 01:36:28 PM »
Thank you Skuzzy. That last tip regarding power concerns was especially noted and appreciated.  I'll  go for the XT as power MAY be an issue for me and I'd rather be safe than fried.

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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2003, 02:06:26 PM »
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Skuzzy, are you saying that the faster 9600XT actually needs less power than the slower 9600PRO?


Sounds like it ... but more specifically it sounds like it draws it's power from the mobo where the pro needs an external power source (at what point can one have too many power strips off of one outlet? heh).

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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2003, 02:15:29 PM »
Alrightythen... guess ill find out when my 9600XT gets here sometime tomorrow. :)