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Offline davidpt40

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« on: October 14, 2003, 01:54:13 PM »
In California (sierra nevadas) there is a crash site of a very rare aircraft, the B-17C.  This model of the B-17 did not have any power turrets, nor a tail turret.

In November of 1941, this B17C took off from some mid-western state to fly to California to have its #3 engine replaced.  The engine had been causing some trouble.  

Well the pilot (no co-pilot on board) flies into a gigantic snow storm.  Turbulence is very bad, hes flying on instruments.  Then the #3 engine goes out.  Now heres some trivia for you aviation buffs- Which engine on early B-17s powered the instrumentation?  The #3.  So the pilot is flying in 0 visibility, no instruments, 3 engines, and the turbulence is so horrible that rivets are popping out of the fuselauge.  

The pilot orders all the crew to the waist section of the aircraft to stand-by to bailout.  He then orders the crew to bailout.  But the airframe is so twisted and bent from turbulence that the escape hatch is smashed shut.  The pilot, despite his best efforts, finally gets vertigo and the plane goes into a spin.  

As the crew is beating on the escape hatch trying to get out, the entire tail section of the B-17C rips off and the crew is somehow (massive g forces I would guess) able to bail out.  But the poor old pilot never made it out.

Due to this crash, Boeing re-designed the B17 to withstand turbulence better and to also have multiple back up systems for the instruments.   Guess what happened 1 month later?  Largest war in history broke out.

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2003, 01:58:08 PM »
Well, actually that war had started 2 years and 2 months before.

Where'd you get that story from?
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2003, 02:41:18 PM »
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Well, actually that war had started 2 years and 2 months before.


No way Oct.  That is Checkoslovak/Polish/British and French propaganda...clearly the war STARTED when American got involved.

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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2003, 03:05:55 PM »
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No way Oct.  That is Checkoslovak/Polish/British and French propaganda...clearly the war STARTED when American got involved.

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Well, it did for us...

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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2003, 04:39:37 PM »
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Guess what happened 1 month later?  Largest war in history broke out.


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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2003, 06:41:35 PM »
Right after it broke out, Davy Crocket took his band of Rough Riders deep into the heart of Germany.  After defeating Napoleon, they stormed Hitlers bunker and killed him and the Kaiser.

President Wilson awarded him the Medal of Honor, immediately before being shot by Jack Ruby.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2003, 07:05:07 PM »
lol!  I didnt mean to flame the guy.  =]

I was curious as to where the B17 bit came from.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2003, 07:06:24 PM »
Story is from History channel show called "Broken Wings".

As for the war starting- If you guys were capable of following the context of the story, then it would have made sense to you.  The U.S. was the first country to use the B-17 in combat.  The B-17 first saw combat on December 7th, 1941 which *gasp* is when the U.S. entered the war.

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2003, 07:20:45 PM »
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Story is from History channel show called "Broken Wings".

As for the war starting- If you guys were capable of following the context of the story, then it would have made sense to you. The U.S. was the first country to use the B-17 in combat. The B-17 first saw combat on December 7th, 1941 which *gasp* is when the U.S. entered the war.
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well if ya wanna get snippity about it....

It still doesnt make sense.  No where in that story does it mention the US being the first to use the B17 or that the B17 even saw combat.  How is an average reader going to deduce that the B17 saw service with the US from that snip?

Besides, the terms "broke out" imply the war in general first started at that date.  The only mention of the war is at the end and no other place.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2003, 07:40:00 PM »
Why on Earth would you fly a plane with a screwed #3 engine (that powered everything evidently) let alone any engine that was bad??? Couldn't send the engine to the plane & not vice versa???
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2003, 08:44:05 PM »
don't be a complete tool oct.
treat people with a little regard

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2003, 09:27:06 PM »
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don't be a complete tool oct.
treat people with a little regard


um, and who are you?

re-read the thread.  he attacked our reading capabilities first.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2003, 10:04:18 PM »
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re-read the thread. he attacked our reading capabilities first.


You sir, are insane.  Please quit disgracing the board with your juvenile attacks.

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2003, 10:05:35 PM »
You're saying your comments werent the least bit snide?  I'm not supposed to react to them?
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2003, 03:53:56 AM »
Thanks for the story David. I caught the end of that show and missed that part.




um, and who are you?  Is this your message board?