ubb vs nntp

[homer]

i'm curious if HT creations would consider switching to a news server in lieu of this ubb stuff.  

i'm sure the HTC staff is aware of the advantages that nntp access offers so i won't rehash it.  i am curious why these ubb boards have become popular of late.  

homer

[-deft-]

It isn't ready yet but how bout a
newsgroup like NG!  

 http://4.33.5.134/~deft/ng/

deft

[homer]

i would prefer ng! to ubb, but still prefer nntp to both. u down with opp?

homer

[hitech]

I have no clue why UBB is more popular than NNTP  I just know from watching people over the last year more people will get involved in a UBB system than NNTP so we choose UBB. I myself preferr NNTP but we wont be changing or supporting both unless somthing better comes along.

HiTech

[homer]

 

I have no clue why UBB is more popular than NNTP I just know from
                watching people over the last year more people will get involved in a
                UBB system than NNTP so we choose UBB. I myself preferr NNTP but
                we wont be changing or supporting both unless somthing better
                comes along.

                HiTech

hmm...do you think?  i've yet to see a ubb board that was busier than most of the newsgroups i read with the exception of a.g.a-w. which has pretty much died due to the lackluster signal/noise ration :/

the ng over at bigweek is the busiest of all the different airwarrior newsgroups and message boards.  it averages 300-500 messages a day, heck it's almost as busy as comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim.

i think newcomers to the internet aren't sure how to use their newsreaders, something easily remidied by a news:// link that will set it up for them and perhaps a one paragraph explanation about using a newsgroup.  

i would accept your explanation if i didn't think ah was targetting hard core simmers who should all know how to access a newsgroup  

homer

[Ozymandias_KoK]

Sadly, people want nice little things they can just click on.  Anything more complicated than that is bound to leave a lot of individuals scratching their heads and asking why the internet has to be so hard.  Sure, it's repulsive, but that's what we've got.  Long live the Web!

Maybe some day we would get lucky and someone will invent web kill filters.  

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[Brick]

Whoa... that's pretty dang cool, Deft!  

Andy

[-deft-]

thanks brick  

deft<-ubb hater

[Rolo]

 

i would accept your explanation if i didn't think ah was targetting hard core simmers who should all know how to access a newsgroup

If you remember, at ICI we went with nntp.  Our thinking was that nntp had it all over web-based offerings.  The nntp system was faster, threaded, could still be accessed by a web browser, had better access tools via various news browsers.  

But the fact remains that AGW's UBB system got more traffic than our nntp server.  The only advantages I see of UBB is that it's accessible from behind most firewalls (let's face it, a lot of us check on the BB from work) and its more graphical.  Why do people like UBB better, I have no idea.  But it appears they do.

Rolo

[homer]

 

Why do
                   people like UBB better, I have no idea. But it appears they do.

well..i'm not so sure that people do like them better.  i think perhaps novice webmasters have an easier time setting up and running a ubb message board in lieu of a news server, so anyone browsing the internet looking for whatever probably come across more ubb message boards than they do links to a newsgroup.  aw3 has it's share of player/webmasters who have also put up ubb boards.  the ng's at bigweek are much more popular, probably because they were created when aw3 was in beta testing, and the original launch page included links that took you right to the bigweek newsgroups.  

given a choice, i'd bet anyone who would say nntp is not only better, but so much better that arguing about it is just plain silly.  takes no time at all to educate someone on how to access and read a newsgroup    

homer

[homer]

forgot..

another reason bigweek is so popular with aw players is that it is unmoderated.

homer

[Dancer]

Homer has a good point there.

Now ICI had never cancelled postings on their
NNTP server, iEN's policy is to delete/lock
threads that deal eg. with other flight-sims
or are not on topic.

Pyro closed a thread here on FH in a good,
professional manner but I think it was pretty
commen sense that he did it.

Anyway, it seems that folks like to get the
feeling that the forum (UBB or NNTP) is
"independant" and not company "controlled".
Of course Argo's is not really independant
since he also locks threads but one does
not percepts it as "controlled".

That psychological point aside, I'm strongly
for NNTP but I see the need of those who
are behind a company firewall and don't want
to hassle around with a news-reader. I just
whish that someone finally develops a web-bbs
to NNTP gateway so I can use my newsreader  

Dancer out.

[hitech]

With you on the hope some one develops a threaded browser reader dancer.

HiTech

[Ozymandias_KoK]

Here a tip for yall who don't seem to realize exactly why UBB (or whatever kind of webboards) prevails over NNTP, something with more flexibilty, power, and all that neat stuff:

Pointy clicky things

AOL didn't get a buttload of customers because it is better than an ISP, but because people on it don't have to configure things.  Face it, there's a lot more ignorant newbie types than the internet pros that many of us have become over the years.  Lowest common denominator....  

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[homer]

 

With you on the hope some one develops a threaded browser
                   reader dancer.

                   HiTech

um...HT...you need to get out more often  
 http://www.webboard.com/wb4/features.cfm

includes nntp support  

homer