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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: October 15, 2003, 03:16:23 PM »
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777-300 Extended Range

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The Boeing 777-300ER completed the longest engine-out demonstration flight ever in support of Extended Operations certification, when it flew more than five hours with one of its two engines shut down. The airplane began its extended-range twin-engine operations flight-test program Tuesday.


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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2003, 03:18:39 PM »
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777-300 Extended Range




C'mon Rip....Airbus is far superior to Boeing:)

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2003, 03:20:57 PM »
And Yugo's are less expensive than Porsches. :) But hey, they do the same thing...point A to point B.

(Incidently, Airbus uses the same engines for their aircraft as Boeing, though I'm not sure this particular engine is in an Airbus fleet just yet.)

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2003, 03:36:30 PM »
What's so special about that,  even a Tupolev can do that.:D  A nice plane anyways. I doubt there will be an Airbus with those engines, they are HUGE.

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2003, 03:41:47 PM »
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What's so special about that,  even a Tupolev can do that.:D  A nice plane anyways. I doubt there will be an Airbus with those engines, they are HUGE.


Maybe that new double decker? I'm not sure whats going to power that.

Huge is right, a 737 fuselage can fit inside the cowling of that engine.

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2003, 04:55:24 PM »
The A380 wont't have so large engines. It's going to get 4x70,000 pounds of thrust engines. Those Beasts have 115,000 pounds of thrust.

Nice site about the A380:
http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/a380/

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2003, 05:08:09 PM »
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The A380 wont't have so large engines. It's going to get 4x70,000 pounds of thrust engines. Those Beasts have 115,000 pounds of thrust.

Nice site about the A380:
http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/a380/


Ah, thks for that info.

Yeah, the initial 777 engines were 92,000 lbs. of thrust, and it appears they've boosted them up to 115,000 now! Whoa!

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2003, 06:01:18 PM »
did it land with just the one engine too?

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2003, 06:13:17 PM »
Those two airplanes, WD501 and WD502 777-300s are without doubt two of the most amazing aircraft I have ever worked on and in.  The sheer size of the beasts and the magnitude of technology built into them is mind numbing.  At the time I said to myself, I said: Self, if there is an eighth and ninth wonder of the world, these planes are the genuine deal.

Although my time with Boeing is coming to a close I can truly say that in spite of Phil Conduit, the people that have built Boeing into what it is today have done amazing things as individuals and as team members, each working for a thing larger than themselves.  A legend.  The people that Built history making military airplanes such as the B17, B29, B47, B52.  Commercial airplanes including the first successfull commercial jet, The 707.  Followed by the 727, 737, 747, 757, 767 and 777.

Unfortunately, Boeing is gambling away its highly skilled and paid workforce like so much garbage in favour of cheap foreign engineers and techs from the likes of Russia and India.

I wish them luck.  They will need it.

Until then, keep an eye on Airbus.  For better or worse Boeing (aka McDonnel Dougles) has handed over the reigns of premier commercial airplane manufacturer to the euros.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2003, 07:09:31 PM »
If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2003, 09:36:43 PM »
Precious little, if any, of the 7E7 will be constructed in Seattle.  Major sub-assemblies built overseas will be flown in on 3 specially modifed 747s and "snapped together", most likely at the Everett plant but who knows, corporate is even jerking that one around for maximum political gain.  An estimated 800 US workers will do the "snapping", or final assembly, and about half that many will do the flight test and customer handoff.  Meanwhile almost 25,000 workers in the Puget Sound region have been put out to pasture with little to no chance of recall in the current economic downturn and the poorly executed plan for introducing new technology airplanes into the Boeing Stable to compete with Airbus.  IMO Boeing should have had a plan to develope an entirely new family of next generation airplanes twenty years ago.  All we have done is build one "all new" airplane model since the 757/767 family designed back in the early eighties, twenty years ago. We knew about airbus then and what they were doing and were capable of.  Our corporate executives failed the company.

Now Boeing is taking advantage of the horrid business climate to completely reshape their manufacturing philosophy.  Soon all Boeing will be doing is the final assembly, check out and finally stamping the name "Boeing" on the ID placard.  "Built in the U.S.A" will no longer be honestly applicable.

"Built by Global Partners" is the future of Boeing.  Even then our global partners, including China, will no doubt be taking notes
and developing their own processes for the inevitable counter to the Western manufacturing giants, Airbus and to a more and more lessor extent Boeing.

So, the old adage  "If it aint Boeing, I aint Going" will soon no longer be an endoresment of the skill and resourcefullness of the american worker.  That phrase which has stood and served the working class for so long is losing its credibility rapidly.  Instead, it will be a sad and inevitable ode to globalization.

Boeing is sacrificing the american worker in the name of corporate greed and share holder value.  Of course under the guise of "we must do this to survive".  BS is what it is.  They are endangering the security of the american economic system and skipping out on the american worker, their benifits and retirement, robbing the federal treasury of collected income taxes and basically hard screwing those that have brought the legendary company unbridled success through sacrifice for 80+ years.  Its a LOSE-LOSE proposition imo.  Of course Phil Conduit and Harry Stoneciphor and a cadre of elite corporate officers are accumulating great wealth at the expense of everyone else.  
Sad to this employees eyes.  In this view I almost prefer Airbus.  But hey, unless Im at the Yoke I prefer not to fly at all.

Just my opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2003, 07:23:35 AM »
Couldn't agree more with your assessment, Yeager.  Previous CO's at Boeing used to take high risks by moving forward with new aircraft types, nowadays, due to the "Boomer" generation of CO's, those high risks to better the future and foundation of Boeing could care less about the company and care more about their portfolios and retirement packages.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2003, 07:30:57 AM »
What happens when the other engine quits?

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2003, 07:32:00 AM »
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If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.


Traveling with that attitude can be quite hard now and even more so in the future.

Was that Sonic Cruiser just a publicity stunt or was there any plans to actually build that bird?
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2003, 07:44:20 AM »
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Was that Sonic Cruiser just a publicity stunt or was there any plans to actually build that bird?


Boeing was ready to move forward with the Sonic Cruiser.  Wind tunnel tests were almost complete and the go-ahead would have been ordered had their been an interest from the airlines (no launch customer ever hinted of wanting to be "the first", combined with the timing of 9/11, this futuristic jet just had bad luck hitting the market when it did)