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[snocone]

wow mrblack, is that some kind of air conditioner unit at the bottom of yours. looks cool, but i know very little about this kinda stuff.

[empire2]

Soda i got a 9700pro and am only getting bout a 10fps
whats your cpu and all that?

[mrblack]

Originally posted by snocone
wow mrblack, is that some kind of air conditioner unit at the bottom of yours. looks cool, but i know very little about this kinda stuff.

It's a phase change cooling system.
You can get em here

http://www.chip-con.com

[Soda]

empire2,
  I've got a AMD 1.4GHz but because of a memory problem I've been running it at ~1GHz to keep it stable.  I think I have a bad memory chip but can't be bothered to replace it (I suspect I'm in the market for a major upgrade by the end of the year anyway).  I upgraded all my drivers (directX 9.0b and used the newest radeon drivers I could find) and it works alright now.

I can actually run it in almost every combo of settings including 32 bit now, with the latest AH2 beta.  It will be interesting to see what happens when an online version runs and I get more aircraft near me... I will probably run outta overhead and slow down badly.

-Soda

[Ecliptik]

Gypsy, I'd go for the 9600 AIW Pro over the 9800.  The 9800 is somewhat more powerful as a gaming card, but the 9600 is more feature laden.

Anandtech ran a good review of it:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1905

[Gypsy Baron]

Originally posted by Ecliptik
Gypsy, I'd go for the 9600 AIW Pro over the 9800.  The 9800 is somewhat more powerful as a gaming card, but the 9600 is more feature laden.

Anandtech ran a good review of it:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1905

 Thanks Ecliptik ( BTW, are you into astronomy? ) I decided
 to get the ATI 9600 AIW Pro since it has an FM tuner as
 well as the TV tuner...going to put it in an ASUS A78NX Deluxe
 MB with a AMD 2500+ and 512MB Corsair TWINX DDR400
 memory.

 My only qualms are about ordering it with WinXP Pro...
 As an old assembly language ( and "machine" lang. )
 programmer/HW engineer I really LIKE having direct
 control of hardware resources. Something XP does NOT
 allow...Gone are the days of "boot to DOS, run (some utility)
 and control your (name a card or resource here)...sigh.

[zmeg]

Soda that 1.4 Thunderbird is a very good chip if you can keep it cool enough, I installed a all coper heatsink with oversized fan on my sons, brought it down from 170 deg to 120 deg. Now it runs smoothly at 1.5 gigs

[Siaf__csf]

Gypsy Baron do yourself a favour and install W2k instead. I know it won't be any better on the control part, but at least you'll save a few hairs readjusting and relearning XP's butt-ugly GUI. In addition, I've witnessed chunkloads of weird problems with people using XP starting from program installation problems (admin account and still locked access to different functions) to LAN probs to which MS database has no resolution. Same lan, same box, W2k works without a quirk.

Product activation must be the only reason why billy-boy pushes the inferior XP everywhere.

[Ecliptik]

Thanks Ecliptik ( BTW, are you into astronomy? )

Actually yes, but not very seriously, although I have taken my telescope out on more than a couple of nights.  I prefer reading about the subject more than stargazing.

[Soda]

Soda that 1.4 Thunderbird is a very good chip if you can keep it cool enough, I installed a all coper heatsink with oversized fan on my sons, brought it down from 170 deg to 120 deg. Now it runs smoothly at 1.5 gigs

As I've been running mine at only 1GHz it stays nice and cool but I also bought a serious heat-sink/fan combo to ensure it wouldn't bake (that chip, as you suggest, has always been known to run hot).  I do need to get a new memory chip for it though, running slow cripples performance pretty badly though I haven't been running anything that required the extra MHz yet.  AH2 appears to be the product that will require it.

[Roscoroo]

oh why, oh why did i even look back in here....

come on lets get real here ... most guys arnt gonna afford a 3000 $$$ mega buck monster pc ... let alone have the knowledge to oc it to what we would call stable.. they are mostly looking for the cheapest upgrade they can get away with ...


we need to wait til ah2 gets closer to final code  befor screaming about this or that pc/vc requirements ..

[Gypsy Baron]

Originally posted by Ecliptik
Actually yes, but not very seriously, although I have taken my telescope out on more than a couple of nights.  I prefer reading about the subject more than stargazing.

 I've just renewed my interest in the past couple of
 years after looking at the HST returns.  
 Also I recently discovered that my brother, whom I haven't
 kept in close touch with, is the pres.of the So. California
 Amatuer Astronomers and is the principle operator on
 the Mt. Wilson 60" and 100" telescopes

 I've just acquired a 100mm refractor and an 8" reflector
 plus a 6" dobs my brother built for me that breaks down
 to a size suitable for carry-on aboard aircraft.

 The 8" hasn't seen first light yet as I've been waiting on
 backordered tube rings but I've used the 100mm alot
 during September, viewing Mars from my light polluted
 front yard.
 
 I took the 6" dobs up to the dark skies of Cape Breton,
 Nova Scotia for 5 weeks in July/Aug and put it to use
 about 3 nights a week up there.
 Speaking of reading, while I was in Cape Breton I
 managed to get through 2 books by Timothy Ferris.
 "The Red Limit" and "Seeing in the Dark"...both
 good reads if you haven't read them already.

 Clear skies to you.