Author Topic: Warthog (Read 745 times)

Kommandant · « **on:** October 16, 2003, 04:03:49 AM »

Yeah I know this is a stupid post, but I would like to see what an A10 Warthog could do against a Me262 SturmVogel in Combat. The 262 is abit faster, but I think the Warthog could take it down.

simshell · « **Reply #1 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:14:46 AM »

a10 blows it away from 5 miles if the 262 even got close the a10 outturns it and then sprays 20mms and kills it kind of like the nik:rofl

hogenbor · « **Reply #2 on:** October 16, 2003, 07:28:59 AM »

Interesting...

The A10 will annihilate the 262 because it offers a vastly superior thrust to weight ratio and infinitively better engines that allow it to accelerate much better. Agility and rate of climb will also be much, much better.

And nothing beats an Avenger gun, makes even 4 Mk108's look like BB's...

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 16, 2003, 07:34:10 AM »

not to mention the sidewinders it can carry

Westy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 16, 2003, 08:53:08 AM »

And if the 262 even got a shot off the A-10 is armoured very welll with titanium

humble · « **Reply #5 on:** October 16, 2003, 11:09:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Westy
And if the 262 even got a shot off the A-10 is armoured very welll with titanium

Westy beat me to it...A-10 would probably survive multiple hits with np...after all it can survive much more leathal modern ground based anti aircraft weapons fire. I'd guess guess the mk 108 rounds would bounce off when they detonated...you'd need real armor piercing shells.

Kommandant · « **Reply #6 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:23:58 PM »

See so we need Perked A10's set at about 300-500 Perks per plane.

cobia38 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 18, 2003, 01:16:50 AM »

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Originally posted by simshell
a10 blows it away from 5 miles if the 262 even got close the a10 outturns it and then sprays 20mms and kills it kind of like the nik:rofl

sorry to bust your bubble but A10 has a 30mm gattling gun
that fires depleated uranium rounds. NOT 20mm guns.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2003, 02:56:39 AM »

Primary Function: A-10 -- close air support, OA-10 - airborne forward air control
Contractor: Fairchild Republic Co.
Power Plant: Two General Electric TF34-GE-100 turbofans
Thrust: 9,065 pounds each engine
Length: 53 feet, 4 inches (16.16 meters)
Height: 14 feet, 8 inches (4.42 meters)
Wingspan: 57 feet, 6 inches (17.42 meters)
Speed: 420 miles per hour (Mach 0.56)
Ceiling: 45,000 feet (13,636 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 51,000 pounds (22,950 kilograms)
Range: 800 miles (695 nautical miles)

Me262
Engine: Two 900 kg (1,986 lb) thrust Junkers Jumo 004 B axial flow Turbojets
Wing Span: 12.5 m (41 ft 1 in)
Length: 10.58 m (34 ft 8.5 in)
Height: 3.83 m (12 ft 6.75 in)
Weight: Empty 4,000 kg (8,820 lb)
Loaded 7,045 kg (14,938 lb)
Maximum Speed: A-1a: 870 km/h at 6,000 m (540 mph at 19,685 ft)
A-2a: 755 km/h (470 mph)
B-1a: 800 km/h (497 mph)
Ceiling: 11,450 m (37,664 ft)
Range: 1,050 km (650 miles)
Climb Rate: 1,200 m/min (3,937 ft/min)
Accommodation: 1 Pilot
Armament: A-1a: Four 30 mm MK108 cannons in nose, two with 100 rounds each, two with 80; could also carry 24 R4M 55 mm unguided rockets on underwing racks.
A-2a: As A-1a but with two additional 250 kg (551 lb) bombs on racks under nose.
B-1a: As A-1a
B-2a: As A-1a plus two inclined MK 108 behind the cockpit.

Me262 is much faster than the A-10. With equal pilots, the Me262 would murder the A-10.

moot · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2003, 12:57:46 PM »

sounds like the 262 is a mid-high alt oriented interceptor, whereas the A10 is a low-mid heavy duty flying tank, although its ceiling is higher.

The A10 has a thrust advantage (0.3626 lbs of thrust per pound of weight) over the 262 (0.2659lbs(thr) per lbs(wgt)), not counting what an a2a only A10 would weight.

People who seem to know the A10 say the 108 rounds would probably not cause much damage (besides critical parts like engine exposures and cockpit canopy etc?) if it did hit it.
Sounds like the A10 is also more maneuverable...

With the extra thrust, the A10 sounds like it would accelerate better, and probably climb better, so unless the 262 keeps above the A10's top speed at all times where the A10 has a shot, it's probably not a fight given to the 262.

Innominate · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2003, 02:04:35 PM »

No need for speed, a10 can mount sidewinders, 262 can't.

moot · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2003, 03:24:04 PM »

that's a given, i meant in guns-dogfighting.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2003, 02:23:27 AM »

I believe 20mm and 30mm rounds could really mess an A-10 up.

The plane does have some pilot protection and redundant systems, but that does not make it invincible.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2003, 03:01:31 AM »

if the a 10 could clime above ( depends on the engagment i guess) it would have the 262 im thinkin if its a guns only thing.

the a 10 has a pretty advanced sight for that monster lead laser.
catch the 262 a couple miles out and show him what a balistic computer can do (with 100 round salvos).

Kommandant · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2003, 03:28:21 AM »

You are all forgetting the one real big thing. A10 has Foreward Radar, 262 dosen't. A10 could see the 262 before the German even knows that someone is there