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Offline rabbidrabbit

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« on: October 19, 2003, 12:00:22 PM »
I just lost another 262.  And not to any other reason than a quick network burp.  So far I have lost well upwards of 2000 perk points because of these things that are not my fault and well beyond my control.  What I'm asking is for there to be some presumptive mechanism in the game that assumes continuity with a disco for say up to 4 mins.  If the client loses the server then the plane/vehicle continues on at auto lvl for 4 mins or so at current throttle setting and only discoes if connection is not reestablished.  This is a pretty common feature in other games I have played and is a gesture of good faith for all.

thoughts?

Offline Westy

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2003, 12:06:39 PM »
Network "burp" = random mechanical failure = REALISM!   :D

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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2003, 12:22:59 PM »
Are you on AOL?

Offline Kevin14

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2003, 12:26:54 PM »
I've never been disconnected, I use cable/Road Runner

Offline rabbidrabbit

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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2003, 12:41:35 PM »
Network connectivity is a function of all the devices involved from the end users' machine to the server.  There are dozens of points of failure non of which are anyones fault per se.  My ISP had "issues" with a router for months causing all sorts of problems not to mention if you ALT-TAB out to check email or do some work while on climb out you seem to run the risk of disco'ing.  To say well...  I have not had that problem so screw you is missing the point entirely.  The fact is it happens and to many people per night for many different reasons.  What I'm asking is that there be some relatively simple code be added that assumes good faith and leaves a bookmark in these certain conditions.  From the dozens of complaints I have heard this would be a great feature for HT to add since there are no downsides and potential for much higher customer satisfaction.  People get unhappy when they lose things through reasons beyond their control and it's mostly preventable.  This is why other companies do it.

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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2003, 02:44:01 PM »
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What I'm asking is that there be some relatively simple code be added .... since there are no downsides ....

I'm sorry, are you a programmer for HTC?  Or a programmer at all?  Do you have any idea whether or not that's "relatively simple code?"

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2003, 03:54:35 PM »
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I'm sorry, are you a programmer for HTC?  Or a programmer at all?  Do you have any idea whether or not that's "relatively simple code?"



You don't have to be an ***..  

Think about what I said before acting that way.  And no, It should not be overly complicated.

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2003, 06:22:01 PM »
If you can't afford to lose it don't fly it:aok

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2003, 07:08:18 PM »
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If you can't afford to lose it don't fly it:aok



Please refer to above about missing the point.. still have more than 2k fighter perks left.  Thats not the point.  Less highjacking more thinking pls..>

Folks should not be penalized for issues beyond their control.  Fixing something that does this is great customer relations.

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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2003, 09:11:07 PM »
HTC can't control the internet!
All they can control is there server witch they do very well.

Hey I get booted sometimes to and I have lost perks as well because of it.
but thats the breaks It aint HTCs fault.
It has nothing to do with the game It Is the internet connection that is to blame trust me.
I have spent alot of time disscusing this with scuzzy and my ISP.

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2003, 09:31:13 PM »
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Folks should not be penalized for issues beyond their control.  Fixing something that does this is great customer relations.


So when you get a flat on the highway or it rains on the ball game, who do you whine to then? If you use every concievable form of contraception short of abstinence and your woman gets knocked up, Who you gonna scream to for changing the reproductive process? Should the person behind you be penalized? Maybe you for buying poor tires? Maybe you for not finding / paying for a higher quality connection to The Internet?

toejam happens. -  buy a tee-shirt, join a support group and deal with it.

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2003, 09:53:33 PM »
Geez  you 2 are rediculus..  Did you pay any attention to what I said at all?  Must you catagorize anything as a whine regardless if it is or not?

Try actually reading through my post.  If you lack the attention span I'll try to recap it for you.

1)  One can expect network burps and outages to cause warping and disconnects.

2)  There is a relatively simple way to correct for folks getting booted from disco's.  That is to allow the server to take over flight, like a drone, for a short period of time thereby allowing the person to reconnect and resync up without consequence.

3)  I do not suscribe to your arguement that one should not try to fix a problem when it's possible to do so.  Would you both say the same thing if you were dicoed every 2 mins?  or there was some other issue that made playing the game more difficult.  the answer is no.  And you know it.  Being constructive is a good thing.  Being a jerk just because you feel an impulse to post something today is not.  


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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2003, 11:49:01 PM »
How is the server gonna know who and when to give the "drone"
back to?
And do you know the huge load it would place on the server?
Partner I am not calling you a whiner.
But you and you're internet connection have to take some of the responsability for you're "disco's"
Thats all I am saying.
You're sulution i am unaware of any online game with this many
players on at one time that could impliment this kind of thing.

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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2003, 12:26:15 AM »
It's pretty simple.  It knows who you are already by an ID tag, when it loses contact you go straight and level unitl either you come back or it times out and you go boom.

My connection is just fine.  It's safe to say it represents an average of most consumer connects.  I don't know how many per day are discoed by a short (10-60 sec) lag out but I bet it's in the many dozens.  These things are the nature of the Internet and no one can fix them entirely.  Every MMorg I have played has had this feature , EQ etc..    I sincerely doubt it would be a substancial or even noticable server load.

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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2003, 01:26:37 AM »
Either that or somehow you're ID tag sends a message to the server and you're perk points are resent to you if you get discoed.
That way you would not be out you're perkys for something you did not do;)