My LW plane list for AH2.

[MaddDog]

Now keep in mind i already know there are tons of planes that are needed before these, this isnt a post saying i want them all rightnow blah blah blah, this is just planes id like to see sometime in AH doesnt really matter when.Since night isnt really a factor rightnow in AH i wont include night fighters.

Fighters:

Bf 109E-7(early war plane)
Bf 109T-2(Carrier Version in limited production)
Bf 109F-2(early mid war plane)
Bf 109G-14(mid late war)
Bf 109K-4(later war)
Fw 190A-1(early war)
Fw 190A-2(early war)
Fw 190D-11(late war, good for battle against late war spits)
Me 410 (good for jabo)
Do 335 (limited production/use)
Me 262A-1a/U4(50mm nose mounted cannon )
Me 262A-1a/U5(6 nose mounted 30mms)
Me 262A-2a(version capable of carrying rockets/bombs)
He 162(late war limited use, but since in AH all the problems with the original aircraft arent modeled, it should be ok)

Bombers:

Do 17 lots of varients we could use.
Ju 88 lots of varients we could use.
Ju 87 afew varients we could also use.
He 177 LW need a heavy bomber.
Me 210 high speed bomber.
Do 335 version capable of carrying bombs.
Go-229(didnt quite make the war, but the A-1 version was in pretty far development, since i think HT will prob consider planes that just missed the war i just put it here.)
Ar 234B-2 (had 4 engines instead of 2, good high speed bomber with limited use.)
Fw 200 ok long range bomber.
Ju 390(massive bomber with 6 engines, not much use or continued production)
Ar 190(sea plane with some cannons and MGs as well as rear gun postion, early war plane)
Go 244(could be used as a goon for LW)

Thats my list, yes yes i know there are tons of other planes which are much more needed than these, just my list of LW planes for the future of AH.

[Replicant]

You may be lucky to get a few of those!

I'd like to see:-

Me410
He177
Do217
Ju188
Ju290
He162

[bigjava]

lol we need more axis plane:

1) italian have no jabo and no bomber

2) LW have only j88 an j87 where are

Do 17 lots of varients we could use.
Ju 88 lots of varients we could use.
Ju 87 afew varients we could also use.
He 177 LW need a heavy bomber.
Me 210 high speed bomber.
Do 335 version capable of carrying bombs.
Go-229(didnt quite make the war, but the A-1 version was in pretty far development, since i think HT will prob consider planes that just missed the war i just put it here.)
Ar 234B-2 (had 4 engines instead of 2, good high speed bomber with limited use.)
Fw 200 ok long range bomber.
Ju 390(massive bomber with 6 engines, not much use or continued production)
Ar 190(sea plane with some cannons and MGs as well as rear gun postion, early war plane)
Go 244(could be used as a goon for LW)

3) japan!!!! where are 2 enginee bomber and jabo, and all the
army figther .....

4) Russian alt least one pe and bomber
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[Replicant]

Bigjava, I'd love to see many other planes from other countries too, but the thread is 'LW plane list for AH2' and therefore we shouldn't hijack it by requesting different aircraft (I was very tempted to do so myself!)

[Karnak]

Jeez, why don't you just list all of them.

Try to be realistic.  Also try to limit it to aircraft that saw combat.

For example I'd like to see the following German aircraft:

Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14
Fw190A-2
Ju188A-1
Me410B-2

That is a short enough list to look like something other than "I want the next five versions to add nothing but German aircraft" and it covers all of the bases, early war Fw190, Bf109 between the G-6 and G-10, a great mid-war bomber and a great Jabo aircraft.  All of that accomplished with only four aircraft added.

Focus on filling the big gaps.  The fine gaps can be left until the huge, major, dwarf any gap in the German set, gaps in the Russian and Japanese sets can be filled.

[bigjava]

Originally posted by Replicant
Bigjava, I'd love to see many other planes from other countries too, but the thread is 'LW plane list for AH2' and therefore we shouldn't hijack it by requesting different aircraft (I was very tempted to do so myself!)

ok ok  i'm off topic
u have already made a disclamer about it...

Now keep in mind i already know there are tons of planes that are needed before these, this isnt a post saying i want them all rightnow blah blah blah, this is just planes id like to see sometime in AH doesnt really matter when.Since night isnt really a factor rightnow in AH i wont include night fighters

CMQ i aggree your personal list!!!!




so thinking only to LW

my best neede are

figther
HS 129
Bf 109G-14(mid late war)
Bf 109K-4(later war)
Bf 109F-2(early mid war plane)
Fw 190A-1(early war)
Fw 190A-2(early war)
Me 410
He 162(late war limited use, but since in AH all the problems with the original aircraft arent modeled, it should be ok)

bomber
Ju 88 with 30mm nose mounted and 20mm 45° mounted
 Ju 87 carring 40mm gunpod
He 177 (!!!!!!!!!!)
HE 111 (super!!!!!!!!)
he 277
he274
do 17
FW 200
Ju-388
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[MaddDog]

i listed most of em cuz i want em, like i said before i know there are more planes they will be needed way before many of these ever see AH, im saying with the times the more memory faster computers for less money if AH keeps goin eventually there will be hundreds of aircraft, also like i said before with scenerios comeing out that happend 10 years after the war, i see no reason why HT wouldnt consider planes that were at least in squadrons during ww2 or making flights. The list is possible AH is a big game already and continually growing with people from all over the world, who knows how long AH will last we could all be playin for another 10 years its possible, id think some of these planes could be added in a per. of 10 years, and i know we dont need some of the 109s, but say ur alil german boy who loves the luftwaffe and wishes he was a pilot in ww2, now lil hanze or whatever his name may be loves the 109G-14 although the G-10 is close to the G-14, its not a G-14 so it lessens his expierence, he wants to fly his plane and act like hes in ww2, all in all i doubt many of these planes will be added, i just made a list of what id like to see in the future. PS: i woulda added em all but i got tired of typen:D

[Kweassa]

Obviously the main line of interest for fighters, would be which version of the Bf109 would fill the gap between the standard '43 G-6 and the '44 G-10(which, came out even later than the K-4).

 The various configurations of labels and engines still confuse me very much

 As I understand, the versions modified after factory output retained the "G-6" label, whilst the versions which had the modifications implemented from the factory process itself got  the label "G-14", even though the configuration may be identical - is this correct?

 Thus, I understand it as there were four major G-6 modification types between the G-6 and the G-10:

1. G-6 = G-6 + modifications(Erla Haube, Galland Hood, etc.)
2. G-6/AS = G-6 + mods + DB605AS
3. G-6/AM = G-6 + mods + DB605A + MW50
4. G-6/ASM = G-6 + mods+ DB605AS + MW50

 Logically, it seems to me the first config. would be seen around almost immediately after combat trials of the '43 standard G-6, the second and third would have been tried simultaneously at late '43~early '44, and the last one would be around mid/late '44.

 Am I assuming it right? I think the second~fourth config. would be considered as a "G-14", but which of the three, would be the 'standard G-14'??

 Also, the 1st config would be almost the same as the G-6, and the 4th would be very simular to the G-10 in performance. I think that leaves config. 2 and 3 as candidates for the "gap filler", but how was the performance? Would a DB605A+MW50 config out perform a BD605AS w/o MW50?

 Wish someone could clarify these issues for me.

[MaddDog]

i got a book with all the differences, when i get some time ill look it all up for you, tell ya what the differences were from variation to variation between G-6 - G-14,  there were some other things i was gonna add to this list of LW stuff we could use, such as weapons Air to Air rockets and other bombs, some variants were just modifyed to carry rockets or special weapons.

[MaddDog]

This is all probably stuff everyone knew but here it goes, did alil bita lookin up on the different 109 varients.

The 1st G-6s differed from the G-4 only in that the Mg 17s were replaced with Mg 131s, in early 1944 the DB 605A was replaced with the slightly more powerful DB 605AS for more power at heighths, it included the power of the DB 605A with the more powerful super charger of the DB 603.

The G-10 was improved with an added DB 605D

The G-14 was just an improved G-6 with a later version of the DB 605AS, so im assuming the G-14 probably had some better qualities and speed then the G-6.

The G-16 was the last model of 109Gs and was improved with a DB 605L but was produced in limited numbers.

The 109K-4 used the DB 605D also.

The 109K-6 limited numbers also was going to be equiped with a DB 605ASCM/DCM engine, it had 2 MG 131s, the MK 108 nose cannon and 2 wing mounted MK 108s, it also had a calculated speed of 608km/h rising to 728km/h at 8000 meters.

DB 605A - 1474 hp
DB 605D - 1850 hp

thats a quick overview of what i found.

[MaddDog]

Overall i think the best gap filler for early 43 mid 44 would be the 109G-6 with the DB 605AS, assuming the G-6 we have has the standard DB 605A.

For a later war version(late 44-45) id like to see a 109K-6(very limited production and use) or a K-4 to go with the G-10

Another which may be a good plane to fill the gap between early 43 and mid 44 would be the 109G-8 same as G-6 but with added GM-1 system.

[Glasses]

I want to see a D9 '45 with MW50 goodness as a perk of course to compete with the Tempestino yes 2240PS yes uh huh uh huh.

Too I want to see a 190F8 with R4M and an Me262 A2 with them as well.

[JB73]

as per original post ....

how fun would the DO335 be at like 100 perks !!!!


EAT those tempests and spit14 alive!

although historicalyl not right ... chasing down and catching a 262 would be fun too.

Capable of a maximum speed of 474 mph at 21,325 ft with MW 50 boost, or 426 mph without boost, and able to climb to 26,250 ft in only 14.5 minutes, the Do 335A-1 could easily outpace any Allied fighters it encountered. It could also carry a bomb load of 1100 lb for 900 miles.

also the range and bomb load would be sweet... nothing like killing barracks in rear line bases in a perk plane!!

[moot]

Me410
G-6A/S
F8 with real loadouts, like panzerblitz, that huge bomb etc.
a faster D9.

[MaddDog]

yes, i also would like to see some new weapons like air to air rockets, panzerschrecks, some more types of bombs etc etc:aok