Author Topic: So let us see, Rush resigned, Savage got fired. (Read 1063 times)

miko2d · « **Reply #15 on:** October 21, 2003, 12:52:52 PM »

DmdNexus: I've lived in several socialist countries..
the US is hardly socialist. In fact, I think we are one of the more compasionate countries there is...

Apparently you have no idea what "socialism" means. "Socialism" is a olitical arrangement when a state sets goals and undertakes projects using wealth extracted from population by threat of violence - rather than maintain order and allow people to set and accomplish their goals via economic means.

Political means = using coercion to make people act in ways they would not act voluntarily to advance goals set by the current rulers of a state.

Economic means = people are free to cooperate (or not) and engage in voluntary transactions and exchanges to advance their goals - or refuse from such transactions.

After all we just...

All the "good deeds" that you've listed as well as space program, federal pension system, etc. would be free-market if done by independent entrepreneurs or charities but are socialist when done by the government using taxes coercively collected.

Is that socialism? To to give to foreigners, but not our own?

Exactly. Political Means vs. Economic Means.

miko

JBA · « **Reply #16 on:** October 21, 2003, 01:39:49 PM »

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Originally posted by DmdNexus
LOL - what's your point?

Nina mispoke.. she corrected her self immediately.

Back on the July 8, 1995 Inside Washington, Totenberg had this reaction to Senator Jesse Helms’ complaint that AIDS research was getting a disproportionate share of federal research money. Inside Washington host Tina Gulland asked: "I don’t think I have any Jesse Helms defenders here. Nina?"
Totenberg replied: "Not me, I think he ought to be worried about what’s going on in the Good Lord’s mind, because if there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it."

was she misspeaking when she said this. nope.

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[/B]The Majority of the Media is conservative... is edited by conservatives... is owned by conservatives... has always been conservative... and will remain conservative.[/B]

where do you live, One TV staion is owned by a conservative, FOX and it has 2% of the viewing audience

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[/B]The majority of Americans are moderates.. [/B]

Have you taken a look at the 2000 election map by district the whole damn thing is RED (republican) only in the inner cities where there is a high density of minorities, welfare recipients and academic elitist to you find BLUE (democrats)

DmdNexus · « **Reply #17 on:** October 21, 2003, 01:51:33 PM »

>>the whole damn thing is RED (republican)

What an appropriate color for the republicans... just like RED China... and RED communist Russia...

Cuba has a history of an evil dictator, killing and imprisoning their people... and they are only 200 miles off the coast of florida... right under the belly of our glorious Representative Democracy!

Hell... let's go attack CUBA!!! Liberate the Cubians!

>>All the "good deeds" that you've listed as well as space program, federal pension system, etc. would be free-market if done by independent entrepreneurs

Then let the free market pay for Iraq, Afganistan and Cuba.
Stop using my tax money to pay for wars!

I do believe our dearest ally England is a Socialist country. Am I mistaken? I'm sure someone will say I am.

What the hell are we doing allied with socialists!

Are they the same as communists... pinko.... ginko... foreigners...

Pablum!

JBA · « **Reply #18 on:** October 21, 2003, 02:14:38 PM »

here it is the moderate contry.

JBA · « **Reply #19 on:** October 21, 2003, 02:22:20 PM »

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Originally posted by DmdNexus
[BCuba has a history of an evil dictator, killing and imprisoning their people... and they are only 200 miles off the coast of florida... right under the belly of our glorious Representative Democracy!

Are they the same as communists... pinko.... ginko... foreigners...

Pablum! [/B]

Cuba is 60 miles off the coast of FL.
And your racial slurs have demonstrated that as always when Liberals are faced with facts they call names.

"Liberals love humanity hate people."

DmdNexus · « **Reply #20 on:** October 21, 2003, 02:36:03 PM »

Being that Democrats seem to be in the minority... as reflected by that map...

And we all know Democrats are liberals....

How is it... that the Republicans... which we all know are conservatives....still claim that the media is libral bias....

Wouldn't by now the "conservative" owners of the "liberal media" fired all the "Liberals"?

No?

Could it be that there is no Liberal movement... that it's just propaganda by a conservative power which is just paranoid and trying to hold on to their rhetoric of "fear and hate."

Ah... that reminds me there was only one president who resigned from the oval office... who undeniably brought disgrace to the office... and he was indeed a Republican. Remember... "I am not a crook" Nixon... "I don't even know what a crook is."

"You don't have Nixon to kick around any more"

Regan almost went there with IranContra... and Arabgate... but the Republicans got better at shredding documents... and aftera ll he couldn't recall.

Bush Sr. was the first president to pardon someone (Weinberger) before they were even charged with a crime.... odd... how can that be done! Weinberger had knoweldge of Bush Srs involvement in IranContra, because Bush was at the same meeting with Olie and Casper when arms for hostages was brought up. Bush's recollection was that he excused him self to go to the bathroom and wasn't aware of the agenda of the meeting... however.. Casper's notes stated otherwise... had Casper testified... and told the truth... Bush sr. would have been in deep doodoo.

Unlike Clinton... the Republicans actually broke serious US laws which involved national issues... and like the CIA leaks and Orwen Hatches disclosure of classified intelligence sources such as OBL cell phone... issues of national security

There's a few things stewing in the pot right now that haven't hit the presses about the current administration....

I'll play psychic... I predict impeachment proceedings in the 2nd quarter next year.

DmdNexus · « **Reply #21 on:** October 21, 2003, 02:42:07 PM »

>>racial slurs

"communists... pinko.... ginko... foreigners" are not a racial slur

And I wasn't calling any one here names....

Knock knock! Don't let the wood in your head dull your thoughts.

Sarcasm dude... I'm playing the War mongers pipes to demonstrate how absurd they are in their justifications for killing people.

They have just as much reason to attack Cuba, as they do Iraq...

If not more so... since Cuba has been doing it's thinkg for 40 years... much longer than Saddam since the gulf war.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #22 on:** October 21, 2003, 02:57:06 PM »

your forgetting the majority of voters in 2000 voted liberal or even crazy liberal(nater). All the map shows is that the majority of democratic voters live in citys.

lazs2 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 22, 2003, 08:42:24 AM »

women, womenly men and liberals all live in big cities and they all vote like women.

they take stuff away from you for your own good.
lazs

DmdNexus · « **Reply #24 on:** October 22, 2003, 08:57:26 AM »

>> liberals all live in big cities and they all vote like women

What's wrong with women voting?

Hey laz... I think your knuckles are dragging on the ground..

Does Lazie wanna banana?

Might want to shave that single eye brow and make two.
Psst... the Neanderthal look went out thousands of years ago.

JBA · « **Reply #25 on:** October 22, 2003, 09:08:18 AM »

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Originally posted by DmdNexus
[BHey laz... I think your knuckles are dragging on the ground..

Does Lazie wanna banana?

Might want to shave that single eye brow and make two.
Psst... the Neanderthal look went out thousands of years ago. [/B]

once agian proving my point
Liberials love humanity hate people. I thought you were the compasionate ones?

Gadfly · « **Reply #26 on:** October 22, 2003, 09:11:17 AM »

Cuba is ninety miles off our coast(our keys, actually).

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #27 on:** October 22, 2003, 09:35:35 AM »

wonder who has killed the most people by torture this year in cuba the cuban government or OURS?

remember when the "compasionate conservatives" on this board were supporting the torture/beating deaths of prisoners in cuba?

hint, the torturers are never the "good" guys ...ever

every religion on earth agrees on blanket responsibility for this type of stuff ( for instance you support torture and your a christian your goin to hell, seems pretty clear) or are you guys atheists?

i honestly wonder how you reconcile this **** and sleep.

DmdNexus · « **Reply #28 on:** October 22, 2003, 09:52:12 AM »

hey JBA... read lazs comments about women....
such as... "liberals all live in big cities and they all vote like women"

The guy doesn't believe women should vote... he's made other such remarks in other threads...

His point of view is rather out of date...

Get some congruencey in your thoughts - why don't you.

by the way... would every one agree that Cuba is South of the USA and is with in 500 miles of our coast line?

Whether they are 200, 20, or 90 miles off our coast is not the point.

They are a communist country, dictatorship, and just as evil as Iraq and have been doing it longer.

And at one time... they had NUCLEAR missiles... which I'm sure the Conservatives will disagree... but in my book are WMD....
And they have supported terrorists... hint for those of you who can't remember history... Cuba has trained merchanies for years which have fought in Angola, El Salvador, and much more...

Godzilla · « **Reply #29 on:** October 22, 2003, 10:00:09 AM »

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Originally posted by DmdNexus

They are a communist country, dictatorship, and just as evil as Iraq and have been doing it longer.

And at one time... they had NUCLEAR missiles... which I'm sure the Conservatives will disagree... but in my book are WMD....
And they have supported terrorists... hint for those of you who can't remember history... Cuba has trained merchanies for years which have fought in Angola, El Salvador, and much more...

You're funny. Cuba never had nuclear missles, the Russians did and put them there under their control. We took care of that problem, remember?

As for equating Cuba with Iraq, do we really need to get into that? I would start by reminding you that Iraq was under a conditional cease-fire and never complied, thus the resumption of the war to solve the outstanding issues.