Author Topic: Can never find a fight on pizza map! (Read 8964 times)

BNM · « **Reply #105 on:** October 28, 2003, 11:45:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
There's the DA, the CT, drinking with friends, fooling with the dogs, chasing the wife around, reading good books... lots of things.

I hope you meant "fooling with the wife, chasing the dogs around" otherwise you're starting to sound like a FDB.

MetaTron · « **Reply #106 on:** October 29, 2003, 12:29:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad

It would appear that while we both play AH, we play it very differently.

I would say your right. Heres the telling point right here. You die way too often.

TheManx · « **Reply #107 on:** October 29, 2003, 12:40:57 AM »

Am I the only one, or does anyone else find it ironic that with stats like his...he points the finger at me as being a cherry picker that always fights from advantage? I would use Lazs's term sky accountant for the type of flying you do, however that would misrepresent accountants everywhere. Their life is far more exciting than the one you have in Aces High.

No wonder you absolutely detest the way I fly. I was one of the few who actually caught up to you to kill ya.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #108 on:** October 29, 2003, 12:43:38 AM »

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Originally posted by MetaTron
I would say your right. Heres the telling point right here. You die way too often.

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You confuse a lack of caring for a lack of skill. A common mistake.

-- Todd/Leviathn

beet1e · « **Reply #109 on:** October 29, 2003, 04:08:21 AM »

Hehe MetaTron! WTG, nice stats. Sorry about last night. I didn't know it was you, or else I'd have escorted you to safety, using my own plane as a "killshooter shield".

Any time now, you will be castigated by the furball whiners for flying "carefully". It is much more cool to die, don't you know. These are the folks who purport to champion the rights of each player to fly what he wants, how he wants. But when you start to produce evidence as you have which belies their assertions that there are "no fights" on the pizza map, they get all uncomfortable - a sort of virtual ants-in-the-pants - and start redefining what constitutes a fight, and rubbishing any playing style which differs from their own. In their view, a "fight" is only when you're twisting and turning at 6K in a furball frenzy in which you put yourself in danger. The fact that in the real WW2 (an event which is rumoured to have inspired this game) most victims did not see their attacker is lost in the mists of MA gaminess to the nth degree.

But oh! I'm talking about facts and the real WW2 - way off topic in this forum.

jodgi · « **Reply #110 on:** October 29, 2003, 05:45:03 AM »

beet1e,

Many of us are voicing similar thoughts. when I did it a little while ago (and trying to be as sarcastic as i can manage) some of the head furballers went off and started some hopeless namecalling.

He compared me to you; the implied disgust hanging thick in the air...

Tell me, how should I feel about that?

(This is all good entertainment, isn't it?)

SLO · « **Reply #111 on:** October 29, 2003, 06:49:29 AM »

the usually my dick is bigger then your dick pissing contest......

you gang up on him and you expect em to bow down.....not gonna happen ladies.

lots think pizza sucks....LOTS THINK PIZZA IS GREAT.

oh my...a differnet opinion.....you rutabagas gonna gang me now.....i really would like that:cool:

Mt might be wrong about manx ONLY being a Bnz dweeb....i just think he's a dweeb only:rofl

and as usual laz's opinion means absolutly nothing....haven't you learned that by now.

SLO · « **Reply #112 on:** October 29, 2003, 06:53:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying

You confuse a lack of caring for a lack of skill. A common mistake.

-- Todd/Leviathn [/B]

lack of caring.....hmmm...doesn't that = Mindless furballs

lack of SA skills......or lack of patience....hard to tell

no mistake there....mindless is the word

TheManx · « **Reply #113 on:** October 29, 2003, 07:04:34 AM »

Geez, Slo's typing in tongues again.

SLO · « **Reply #114 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:03:49 AM »

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Originally posted by TheManx
Geez, Slo's typing in tongues again.

tryin to keep it short and sweet...

no long winded chess thumping or gang related typin for me:eek:

I could type it in french for you manx....but are you gonna understand anything.....

lazs2 · « **Reply #115 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:09:06 AM »

slo... the people who like the pizza map like it because it limits choice.... metatard is saying that it doesn't. he is wrong. his example is that.... if he can find a furball every couple hundred hours or so and take a screenshot then there must be lots of furballs available in pizza.

The universal like of the fester map is because it offers everyone choice.

If you are a late war B&Z sky accountant who takes advantage of every loophole in AH and thinks that patience equals skill.... you will want to have the planes spread out and far from home so that any slower plane than your own can be B&Zed with impunity if you use even a the brains gawd gave gophers and metatards.

even then... if he runs into someone of even beetles skill level (difficult durring the kiddie/euro hours) he will get run down and slaughtered.

If he wouldn't have claimed that the map was full of furballs like the one he showed... he mighta been ok. His gunnery indicates he is shooting people who never even see him... probly have drifted off or in the bathroom or taking out a load of laundry.

people in this game don't think your good because you have a high score or because, While you were engaged with 4 other planes, they zoomed down from their high alt foxhole long enough to get a sissie little kick in and kill ya.... no... they thing you are good here when many have had hard fought fights with ya.. the manx and rude are good.... metatard is a sky accountant... Seems most of the socialists are for some reason.
lazs

gofaster · « **Reply #116 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:14:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying

You confuse a lack of caring for a lack of skill. A common mistake.

-- Todd/Leviathn [/B]

Got that right. My G2 kill stats have tanked since I've started using it as a tool to uncap fields under seige.

gofaster · « **Reply #117 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:25:56 AM »

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Originally posted by SLO
lack of caring.....hmmm...doesn't that = Mindless furballs

lack of SA skills......or lack of patience....hard to tell

no mistake there....mindless is the word

Actually, after I got my 5 kills against Bish jabo fighters, I realized that the mindless part was running down 20k alt heavy P-51s and P-47s while flying a 25k light P-51. My targets had 2 choices: pickle the ord and run like hell, or die. Some tried a third option - evasive - but in the end they died too.

So after I got popped by a bomber's gunner, I upped a G2 and did some fighting low and slow on the deck. I didn't have much success, but I did have a lot more fun.

The 5 kills at 20k really weren't all that challenging and didn't involve much thinking. Trying to keep a 150ias G2 airborne at 1,000 feet and shooting with the nose pointing skyward was much more challenging and required a lot more pilot skill.

So, yeah, there are furballs and you don't have to fly very far, but if you want short hops you gotta be prepared to get pasted and forget about your k/d ratio. It also helps if you bait the enemy into the air first by making a P-51D jabo run over the nearest enemy airfield, then when you get popped, up a 109G and wait for the frivolity to meet you at the half-way point.

SHAMELESS PLUG: Bring the Ki-44 Shoki to Aces High! We need hi-alt interceptors!

gofaster · « **Reply #118 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:32:46 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
If you are a late war B&Z sky accountant who takes advantage of every loophole in AH and thinks that patience equals skill.... you will want to have the planes spread out and far from home so that any slower plane than your own can be B&Zed with impunity if you use even (half of) the brains gawd gave gophers ...

Yeah, that pretty much defines AKDessert. Usually, if I'm on a patrol to an enemy airfield, I'm at 20~25k by the time I'm over the enemy base. Its not such a bad drive in a P-51D, but in a 109G2 or Spitfire V its a real butt-cruncher. I've learned that for a F4U-1D, I shouldn't bring less than 75% gas or I won't be able to bring home any kills I make. AKDessert is a BnZ utopia. Its also a pretty good GV map except for all the bouncy terrain.

lazs2 · « **Reply #119 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:45:50 AM »

The pizza map made me actually use some of my perks. I got tired of playing dodgeball in early war planes against the courageous and skilled B&Zers so I grabbed a tempest just to run em down. It was a joke. took forever to run one down but when I finally did.... they were the easiest kills I have ever gotten... they were so worried about e and so laking in acm that they died in an eyeblink.... was it fun? no, not at all... boring chase and boring kills. satisfying but not that satisfying. better to just log off and catch up on bills or laundry.

What the sky acccountants don't understand... and I'm letting out the secret here.... is that the furballers consider them to be unskilled... we think they are sky accountants cause they know they wouldn't survive in a real fight.
lazs