Author Topic: Can never find a fight on pizza map! (Read 8011 times)

MetaTron · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:55:38 PM »

Yes during WWII they often put fields within artillery range. It saved them the expense of using gasoline to send their planes to their destiny. Thats what makes festers map so good. Any one field that could have artillery could feasibly destroy any other field within two fields distance and all without launching a single sortie. Fortunately we dont have WWII type artillery. Ever see SBs fire at PT spawn points?

Come to think of it why doesnt someone build the ultimate furballers map? Pack all the fields of the map right next to each other. 7k distance should do it. Mix in a few factories and oh what fun we will all have!

Zippatuh · « **Reply #31 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:56:43 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Your T.F.T.T.™ utopia exists in the DA. So why campaign for changes to the MA? The strat in the MA did not just appear as if by magic. It was PUT there by HTC, and one assumes they intended for it to be used. I also assume they intended for the GVs to be used. Or do you think they were merely working on points for style by the time they got to that?

GV’s were added to widen the customer base. I doubt seriously that any who were flying at the time before GV’s were introduced were screaming very loud for them. I’d wager good money they were asking for more aircraft but I could be wrong.

If the DA had numbers I’d be there but it doesn’t. Yeah, there’s a strat game, but the meat of it is shooting someone down. If your that into the strat thing, I hear there’s a virtual Risk game out now. Maybe you should give it a try?

No, I didn’t say anything about your online time. I actually didn’t check it. I just know that you’re a TAS/BK groupie. I saw you got to meet lazs in person so the back orders for action figures probably went down.

I think Toad will send you a lock of his hair though. Then you can weave it into your own and argue daily with yourself.

As for your silly references to reading, writing, and being able to find a fight, I won’t check your online time:

Zip registered in Jan 2001 has 735 some odd posts
Beetle registered in Nov 2001 has 2497 some odd posts.

Dude, there are other things besides AH.

Zippatuh · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:07:55 PM »

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Originally posted by MetaTron
...You guys are obviously only in it for yourselves...

...The gay statement was just wrong. It demonstrates a weakness in your character...

You are absolutely right, we are in it for ourselves.

I still don’t understand your concern for close bases and low furballs? Is it that you want to “force” people to higher altitudes? If everyone is low, why not come a little lower.

You can still B&Z from 15K as well as you can from 25.

Everyone can still have their precious strategy. I fail to see how having closer bases will affect it much other than bases changing hands quicker. Of course for those who don’t want a quick fight probably don’t want a quick base capture either.

Oh, and every once in awhile we do a ATG run, but not often.

As for character, I am the lowest thing to virtual man. I will steal your kills, flame away on burning wreckage, taunt, moon, spit, curse, and call a duck a duck.

And yes, gay, not funny haha, but gay funny queer.

MetaTron · « **Reply #33 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:28:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Zippatuh
And yes, gay, not funny haha, but gay funny queer.

I suppose your right. You do sound rather limp wristed.

SlapShot · « **Reply #34 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:31:23 PM »

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Originally posted by MetaTron
Zippatuh you misunderstood or pointed out specific points and ignored the overall. You attack a field the enemy responds. You dont like gvs then ask HT to remove them. It isnt going to happen though. You suffer from not being able to find a fight I dont. On festers map its even easier. Too easy I think as it nullifies half of the game.

I like taking bases and accomplishing things. Apparently you guys just want to fight. You want to have fun without thinking and thats cool. I just dont see why the rest of us have to suffer to satisfy your desire for a low furball.

My squad does what it has to to help our country. To that end we often go it alone. There are exceptions and bishops are improving though slowly. You guys are obviously only in it for yourselves and what limited fun furballing brings you. Its your money and time and thats fine. Nothing wrong with it. Just dont change things because of the limited users that answer up on the BBS. Take a poll of the MA if you want to know how things really are.

The gay statement was just wrong. It demonstrates a weakness in your character.

Geesh ... none could be more nobler than you and your squad. Maybe you will get an invitation to the White House.

There was a change ... its called FesterMA ... and no poll needed there.

No large map has received the accolades that that map received from the whole community. People who had decided to take time off waiting for AH II to revive their juices, came back to play that map and got excited about the game again. Those that were on the brink of quitting got reviatlized with the action on that map.

I never complain about any map (did I ever mention that I HATE Mindano) and yes the broad brush of "Can never find a fight on the pizza map!" is wrong. There are fights on the pizza map, but not with the reqularity that some seek.

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:36:51 PM »

well gee metatron.... maybe I can find a fight anytime I want on pizza map but how would you know? do you know what it means to find a fight? It would appear that either you can't find a fight anytime you like or.... that you simply don't like to fight.. looking at your stats you seem very skilled but unable to find fights or.... you simply don't like to fight and are avoiding them. You have many K/D and very very low k/h so..... you are not simply dieing in the fight to get such a low K/d.... you just aren't getting into many fights. I would guess that you are very careful about choosing the type of fight you won't run from.

This is not what most of us consider a good time. If you win every fight but you only get into 3-6 an hour.... that is not furballing.
lazs

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #36 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:45:43 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
There was a change ... its called FesterMA ... and no poll needed there.

The way I see it, Fester's map doesn't necessarily offer better fights. Nor does it channel gameplay into something other than what we find on other maps. I took some screenshots on Fester's map showing a massive bar of green piling on a small bar of red and a huge bar of red piling on a small pile of green somewhere else across the map. So the more things change, the more they stay the same.

BUT... no matter how good or bad the fights became on Fester's map, one thing seperates it from the pack of large maps: distance to the fight. If the fight's going to suck, I'd much, much rather fly 2 minutes to encounter the suckage than fly 10 minutes. All things being equal except base distances, I'll gladly choose closer bases.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Mini D · « **Reply #37 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:45:56 PM »

About 20% of the fights I get on in the AKDesert map are really good fights. About the same can be said of Fester's map. The other 80% really have nothing to do with the map you are flying on... but the people flying in it.

MiniD

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #38 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:47:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
About 20% of the fights I get on in the AKDesert map are really good fights. About the same can be said of Fester's map. The other 80% really have nothing to do with the map you are flying on... but the people flying in it.

Exactly.

-- Todd/Leviathn

beet1e · « **Reply #39 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:48:35 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
There was a change ... its called FesterMA ... and no poll needed there.

No large map has received the accolades that that map received from the whole community.

I don't agree. There were accolades from what - 50? 100 guys? Maybe even 200? That is not the "whole community" When I view my scores I note that at some tasks (those I never or rarely do) I might be ranked at #3594. So there are at least that number of players. And there are many other account holders that are inactive - they are entitled to vote too.

The only way to get an accurate assessment would be by pop-up logon poll. You can't extrapolate the votes by what's posted on the BBS.

Frankly, I wish HTC would conduct a popup poll - would save a lot of map whining.

Zippatuh · « **Reply #40 on:** October 27, 2003, 03:00:55 PM »

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Originally posted by MetaTron
I suppose your right. You do sound rather limp wristed.

That’s all you got?

With each passing moment I understand why you don’t like to fight. You’re just not very good at it.

I agree that the map doesn’t have anything to do with the “quality” of fights, just the frequency and travel time. That’s basically the only beef the furballer has. Travel time and frequency.

MetaTron · « **Reply #41 on:** October 27, 2003, 03:22:25 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
well gee metatron.... maybe I can find a fight anytime I want on pizza map but how would you know? do you know what it means to find a fight? It would appear that either you can't find a fight anytime you like or.... that you simply don't like to fight.. looking at your stats you seem very skilled but unable to find fights or.... you simply don't like to fight and are avoiding them. You have many K/D and very very low k/h so..... you are not simply dieing in the fight to get such a low K/d.... you just aren't getting into many fights. I would guess that you are very careful about choosing the type of fight you won't run from.

This is not what most of us consider a good time. If you win every fight but you only get into 3-6 an hour.... that is not furballing.
lazs

Might be true if I stuck to your way of thinking which I dont. Go on thinking score has anything to do with skill it doesnt hurt my feelings any. Your score cant bear the scrutiny.

MetaTron · « **Reply #42 on:** October 27, 2003, 03:32:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Zippatuh
That’s all you got?

With each passing moment I understand why you don’t like to fight. You’re just not very good at it.

I agree that the map doesn’t have anything to do with the “quality” of fights, just the frequency and travel time. That’s basically the only beef the furballer has. Travel time and frequency.

Your right zipp I suck at this. Why dont you come look me up?

Rutilant · « **Reply #43 on:** October 27, 2003, 03:36:38 PM »

In!

Oh wait.. I was already in.. ah well.

Mini D · « **Reply #44 on:** October 27, 2003, 03:47:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Zippatuh
I agree that the map doesn’t have anything to do with the “quality” of fights, just the frequency and travel time. That’s basically the only beef the furballer has. Travel time and frequency.

Hell... if you don't care about the quality of the fight... then it shouldn't matter what map you're on. Just look for the base with 20 people attacking it. You're bound to find a fight instantly.

Funny thing is seeing people maintain this doesn't happen on one map... but does on another. I have more than a few screenshots of a map that doesn't have a single green bar and red bar in the same sector... with 450 people on. It wasn't the AKDesert map.

MiniD