Author Topic: Can never find a fight on pizza map! (Read 8027 times)

gofaster · « **Reply #225 on:** October 30, 2003, 03:00:48 PM »

I'm digging that sig, SlapShot. I remember watching the show when he said that. I might have to make it mine!

Hooligan · « **Reply #226 on:** October 30, 2003, 03:03:07 PM »

The 13th TAS guys know of what they speak when they talk about being Cherry-Pickers. Back in the old days they would go to great extremes to eke out even the slightest altitude advantage, as the following picture from the 2002 con attests:

Hooligan

Hooligan · « **Reply #227 on:** October 30, 2003, 03:06:28 PM »

Honch:

Get a life. Every one of those kills was an HO and you know it...

Hooligan

gofaster · « **Reply #228 on:** October 30, 2003, 03:34:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Hooligan
The 13th TAS guys know of what they speak when they talk about being Cherry-Pickers. Back in the old days they would go to great extremes to eke out even the slightest altitude advantage, as the following picture from the 2002 con attests:

Hooligan

The one in blue is already back in the tower!

Honch · « **Reply #229 on:** October 30, 2003, 04:14:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Hooligan
Honch:

Get a life. Every one of those kills was an HO and you know it...

Hooligan

You know it! After all, you can't spell Honch (or Hooligan for that matter) without HO!

Steve · « **Reply #230 on:** October 30, 2003, 04:25:33 PM »

Heard someone on Ch1 complaining about a HO then:

Honch: "I'm in a low P40, I'll HO everyone"

Funniest thing I heard that day.

Rude · « **Reply #231 on:** October 30, 2003, 04:27:08 PM »

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Wait, what's a "real fight"?

Well, I think and I could be mistaken, it would involve an air to air engagement where not one, but both pilots were aware of the others presence, prior to shots being fired.

Now I know that' a stretch for some of you, but what is not a fight, is most certainly those occasions when one pilot hovers over those engaged in real air to air engagements and picks one of them off while they were not lookin.

Of course, it's a fight for some to even get their aircraft off the ground, so what do I know.

lazs2 · « **Reply #232 on:** October 30, 2003, 04:59:28 PM »

but... but.... rude.... don't you know that real WWII fights... 90% of the guys who got shot down never seen the guy who killed them.

It was a little hard to interview them I guess tho.
lazs

Toad · « **Reply #233 on:** October 30, 2003, 06:12:18 PM »

Show me where I've ever said I like to take off one field back. I'm a front line kind of guy.

YOU were the one saying you routinely take off from behind the front lines to allow you to climb into the heavens unmolested.

Needing/using "One field back" on AKD or BI in a slow plane merely means I'm in the DA, CT or out enjoying RL.

beet1e · « **Reply #234 on:** October 31, 2003, 02:14:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Rude
Well, I think and I could be mistaken, it would involve an air to air engagement where not one, but both pilots were aware of the others presence, prior to shots being fired.

Now I know that' a stretch for some of you, but what is not a fight, is most certainly those occasions when one pilot hovers over those engaged in real air to air engagements and picks one of them off while they were not lookin.

Well fair enough then. I see what kind of action you want. I've had plenty of engagements like that in the normal course of events. Some I have won, some I have lost.

Lazs asks if I'm still confused - hell yeah. This kind of combat is what I would call "duelling". Now if you're not interested in strat, not interested in seeing buffs, don't want to fly more than 2 minutes to find a fight, don't want to see your fuel porked, HTC has designed an arena which is tailor made for this very kind of engagement. The Duelling Arena. You did know that's what DA stands for? Because for the life of me at this point in the discussion, I don't know why you don't use it. Or perhaps you do. I see that Mr. Toad does -

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there's always the CT or DA or Real Life for me

If it's good enough in Pizza week, it's good enough any week. No need for map whines.

So I'll answer Lazs's question by paraphrasing Clint Eastwood in Where Eagles Dare after the plot was hatched: "...right now, I'm as confused as I ever hope to be"...

SLO · « **Reply #235 on:** October 31, 2003, 06:57:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve

As for having a hard time shooting you down, unless your connect has suddenly gone South, I don't remember you being any more, or less, difficult to shoot down than the bulk of the population in the MA.

at least someone says I'm average.....not bad......

now lets see where I'd put you.....probably with them whiners rude dude and his gang.....sorry couldn't put ya any lower.....woulda felt bad.....feel bad already....

you have never shot me down yet in this game steve.....so your little theory is a no go...sorry bud

Toad · « **Reply #236 on:** October 31, 2003, 07:39:30 AM »

DA is third choice. CT is second choice; while the CT maps are generally great, the "setup" is critical too. Sometimes, the setup just totally fails to interest me. So, it's a hit or miss but I always look there before going to the DA.

MA can be a blast. CV v CV or CV v close Shorebase fights on most maps are great. Until, of course, the

serious, war-winning players

decide they have to stop any furballing by sinking the CV because the furballers "need to be helping win the war".

BI is pretty much a total loser in my opinion and AKD is at best a 50/50 proposition. If a boat is in the right place, it's as good as any. If not, there's very few fields close enough for fun slow plane fights.

Maps add to the fights and the DA doesn't provide that. You lose the good contours and other features that add to a fight. However, DA is still better than AKD if the AKD boats are out of position and no close fields are matched up on the front line.

Now, if you put FesterMA up in it's own arena and let the other maps run in rotation in the MA it'd be a great experiment. I know where I'd be all the time.

Not to worry though, sooner or later TOD will debut for you serious World War Two recreater war-winning types. I hope it's soon and man, I hope you ALL just love it to pieces.

Toad · « **Reply #237 on:** October 31, 2003, 07:44:52 AM »

As a side note, Metatron was up last night so I tried to talk with him on vox. Tuned him specifically, no answer. I just wanted to chat and see if I recognized "the voice" and said so. Tried to get him to answer over CH 1 and one of his buds told me he had me squelched.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. MetaVoss. Vossatron. Not much doubt left in my mind; who's got the film with him talking on it?

Rude · « **Reply #238 on:** October 31, 2003, 09:09:48 AM »

Ya know Toad....I'm comin around to this MetaVoss thingie of yours.

Strange once the vox issue was brought up, not a sound from the very vocal Metatron.

Not to worry tho, one of my Bish pals sent me a film with his voss...I mean vox included. I haven't had the chance to take a peek yet, but will do so tonight.

lazs2 · « **Reply #239 on:** October 31, 2003, 09:19:37 AM »

beetle... a map like festers allows everyone to engage in as many fights of whatever size they want . The pizza abortion makes for very limited useful choice... flying two sectors in an early war flane is not ver useful. Finding furs of even the size metavoss shows screens of is a matter of luck and dilegence..

Infinity proved that you lse nothing by having airfields closer together but that yu make the map more useful for more people.
lazs