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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2003, 11:23:36 PM »
Taurus is from Brazil. They apparently bought a baretta factory in Brazil and this is how they are making copies og the baretta 92 series guns...
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2003, 11:24:49 PM »
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Unless I'm mistaken Tarus is a Spanish piece of junk available at your local pawn shop for under $300. Go with the Ruger.
RPM, you must be thinking of a different manufacturer than Taurus.   Taurus arms are built in Brazil with a lot of the tooling they purchased from Baretta.  They save money during manufacture by using less expensive labor.  While some of the earlier Taurus model 92 knockoffs were rough in fit and finish, the quality is much better now.  

That said, if I were to purchase a 9mm again, I would go back to Baretta whose reliability and quality is outstanding.  If cost is the issue, Taurus makes a fine firearm these days.

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2003, 11:32:48 PM »
I really like the Beretta 92 series, when I decide to finally buy my own gun it will be a 92FS Inox...

Beautiful and i really love how they fit in my hand perfectly, just feels so natural and balanced... :D

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2003, 12:10:07 AM »
I liked the Taurus (Beretta clone) just fine.  Can never recall a jam or really any problems at all.  However, I am more of an amateur.


BTW-  you actually thinking of getting that pimped out one in the pic?  :aok
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2003, 01:55:28 AM »
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Taurus is from Brazil. They apparently bought a baretta factory in Brazil and this is how they are making copies og the baretta 92 series guns...



you got the story right.

back in the 80's baretta was going to suply 92f's for brizilian military,  after the tooling and everything was shipped over the deal fell through, taurus bought  it up and started making guns.

they make baretta clones on baretta tooling, it's virtually the same gun.  I've owned the baretta I fired quite a few rounds through the taurus and they are the same gun as far as I could tell.

so if you like the big heavy baretta, you could get a set of taurus's for the same money.

in guns it's always best to go with the name brand, but as far as taurus is conserned, it's now 20 years later and they are a name brand.
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2003, 02:39:39 AM »
But since it will be my first gun I want it to say Beretta on it and not Taurus, implying a less valued knockoff.. :)
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2003, 03:38:39 AM »
Maybe they have or had another factory in Spain. I had a Taurus .45 several years ago and I swear it was made in Spain, but I could be wrong.:confused:  Either way, it's not worth the money. Best trade I ever made was it and a laser sight for a Ruger P90-DC at a gun show.
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2003, 05:53:49 AM »
Thks for the feedback all. I have fired the Taurus and it does fit my hand great.

LOL Lance! :p
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2003, 10:14:15 AM »
Not a real 9mm fan but I would go with something that has conversion kits available...  

CZ 75 or clone like EAA witness have about the same grip as the taurus/berretta but are easy to convert up and down... my witness is a .45 with a 22 conversion kit... I can buy a 9mm kit if I ever decide I want one.   also some interesting calibers like 10mm or 357 sig.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2003, 10:26:23 AM »
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Thks for the feedback all. I have fired the Taurus and it does fit my hand great.

LOL Lance! :p


What I head is Brazil just sort of kept the factory (nationalized it).  I had one of the original IMI Desert Eagles in .357 and it was too bloody big for my hand.  Got rid of it and picked up the Taurus PT99AF.  In ten years it hasn't jammed once, and I've done more than a little rapid fire with it.

If I want to drive nails with a handgun I have a 20 year old S&W 686 with a six inch barrel.  That beast is scary accurate.

Should I get the urge to make people laugh I have a pair of 32-20s.  One S&W, one Colt Army 1921.
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Re: Considering on picking up a new 9mm
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2003, 12:31:40 PM »
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Anyone had any luck with Taurus?  I fired Pucks 9mm at the gun range and really enjoyed it. I've never owned a 9mm, and am considering this Taurus just for plinking with the kids when they get older:


I'm primarily concerned of number of rounds fired vs. jams, if any.


UGLY !

Does it glow and blink at night ?

btw I'm a biased sig-sauer former owner :)
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2003, 08:18:23 PM »
Glocks, Brownings, Sigs and Barretta's are all nice guns.

But, if I was going to buy a 9mm?

The CZ 75



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All steel construction (except alloy framed compacts)

High capacity double column magazines

Hammer forged barrels

Ergonomic grip and controls

Unparallel accuracy

Slide-in-frame design for better recoil control

3 dot sighting system (Tritium night sights available)

Easy operation of controls

Smooth double action and crisp single action

Extended service life due to advanced design and superior materials

Firing pin block safety


They tend to run more than some of the others, but I believe they are the best double-action 9mm handgun out there.  And I've shot almost all of them.
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2003, 09:35:45 PM »
Get a .45, why screw around with one of them sissy boy 9mm?

Want to plink? Buy a .22 rifle, maybe a 10/22.  Even a .22 pistol, Browning Buckmark is a good one, I have the Bullseye model.

Not a good shot?  Get a Desert Eagle .44 magnum, even if you can't hit anything, you will scare the shxt out of everything.  Man that is a fun gun.

Avoid the .357, it's more for a guy who is trying to compensate for a tiny unit.  Not a great round for much at all IMO.

Lance had it right about that Taurus, looks like a pimp model ghetto blaster.  Too short barreled to be accurate, and who want's to be laughed at when at the range?

If you have your heart set on the 9mm, maybe your wife wants a gun, the Sig Sauer are fine weapons.  

But for my money, nothing beats the Colt .45, in just about any of the many variations Colt produces.  Just an old fashioned, accurate, butt kicking classic.


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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2003, 11:16:12 PM »
the cz 75 is a nice gun. my dad bought one about 2 years ago, I'm a fan.  I find the S&W more comfortable in the hand though, (it also meets all the features you listed for the cz).

the only thing I'd disagree with is 'Unparallel accuracy'.  the most acurate 9mm I've ever fired is the browning hi-power, even more acurate than my S&W which I find more acurate than my dads CZ.

I've fired just about all of them over the years, with the exception of the sigs, I just cant seem to justify spending the cash and most of the guys I shoot with feel the same(which is where I get the guns to try that I don't own).  their reputation is great but when you can buy 2 or 3  high quality pistols for the price of one sig the math just don't work out.
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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2003, 01:46:14 AM »
im not big on guns but even if i was and i was gay i wouldnt be caught dead with that thing.
That thing has nullo written all over it.
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