Author Topic: socal fires (Read 444 times)

B17Skull12 · « **on:** October 25, 2003, 10:49:36 AM »

well we have 1 out where MT lives should be gone in a day or 2 but the 1 up in the mountians is now becoming a pesty 1. i wake up this morning at 8am to find grey smoke coming over the top of our house. Yesterday morning whe i got to school it was raining ash. 7 high school football games were canceled yesterday cause of smoke. belived cause of the fire ARSON. I have a wierd feeling terrorism is invloved with this fire. the winds are being friendly either think today forcast was gust up to 30.

Shuckins · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2003, 10:55:33 AM »

My Lord,

They cancelled the football games!? How tragic!

Shuckins

Fishu · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2003, 11:43:17 AM »

"I have a wierd feeling terrorism is invloved with this fire"

Yeah.. arsonists only comes from abroad.
Local terrorism by a local arsonist I'd say... something which happens every once in a while.
Let's refer to terrorism by then when you see a shopping mall on fire during a broad daylight.
Otherwise I recommend keeping the word 'terrorism' out of this.

Octavius · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2003, 11:56:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
"I have a wierd feeling terrorism is invloved with this fire"

Yeah.. arsonists only comes from abroad.
Local terrorism by a local arsonist I'd say... something which happens every once in a while.
Let's refer to terrorism by then when you see a shopping mall on fire during a broad daylight.
Otherwise I recommend keeping the word 'terrorism' out of this.

Who said terrorists must come from abroad?

Fishu · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2003, 12:00:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Octavius
Who said terrorists must come from abroad?

Quite likely, especially these days, people minds 'terrorism' as something coming from abroad against their nation.

In this relation it's more confusing statement than necessary.

Godzilla · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2003, 12:04:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
"I have a wierd feeling terrorism is invloved with this fire"

Yeah.. arsonists only comes from abroad.
Local terrorism by a local arsonist I'd say... something which happens every once in a while.
Let's refer to terrorism by then when you see a shopping mall on fire during a broad daylight.
Otherwise I recommend keeping the word 'terrorism' out of this.

So it's okay to refer to terrorism when it's a mall on fire during the day, but not a forest on fire? What does being on fire in the day have anything to do with it anyway?

I suggest you chill out a little.

Octavius · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2003, 12:05:52 PM »

You could be right, but I think it's too broad of an assumption to generalize all "people"

midnight Target · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2003, 12:17:56 PM »

All speculation aside, the Lytle Creek fire grew from 4000 to 12000 acres almost overnight. They not only canceled games, they closed most of the schools in a 10 mile radius of the fire. Thousands are being evacuated as we speak. If this thing takes hold in a residential area it becomes almost unstoppable. Hard to build a fire break there.

I've seen hundreds of homes go in similar situations at least 4 times in my lifetime. If the Santa Ana winds hit as forecast we could really be in trouble.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2003, 12:24:55 PM »

midnight Target · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2003, 12:39:49 PM »

Looking south towards the Camp Pendleton fire. This is about 70 miles away as the crow flies.

Looking Northeast toward the Lytle Creek fire. About 20 miles away.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2003, 02:53:28 PM »

i say terrorism cause i fins it very hard to belive that 2 arsons started on the same day just a few hours apart. ironic isn't it.

medicboy · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2003, 03:01:20 PM »

If I am not mistaken B17skull12 is quite young right? I think this is how his generation is going to view things from now on. ALthough I seriously doubt this had any link to terrorism, it is a major issue, especialy if you live near one of the fires... SO Cal has these fires every OCT and NOV, when you get the Santa Ana's, it turns a small portion of the thousands of fires they have every day into large ones and it makes the news. Happens every year. Most arson Fires are actualy set by someone who stands to benifit from the fire, usualy financialy. IF a firefighter has had a slow year, they might be tempted to light on eoff so he can go fight it and get the extra pay. Some times it is just started by some wacko, who has some serious problems. LIghting fires would be a very poor way of inciting fear and terror.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2003, 03:03:57 PM »

true.

Octavius · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2003, 03:04:13 PM »

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Originally posted by medicboy
If I am not mistaken B17skull12 is quite young right? I think this is how his generation is going to view things from now on.

whoa! i dont think one can generalize an entire generation just from one person's speculation! thats stretching it a bit far

midnight Target · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2003, 03:05:57 PM »

All true medicboy. Some years are worse than others though. This one just took a bad turn about 1 hour ago. Santa Ana winds (hot wind out of the east) started up. The Reche Canyon fire WAS 100% contained. It has just been reactivated. Smoke from the Lytle Creek fire is now covering my town.... 20+ miles away.