Mi-24 Hind Question

[davidpt40]

I still can't get over the 1.75g limit.  This aircraft is not even supposed to be able to pull 1 g!

2 things- Either this g limit is totally bogus, or the hind is just a stationary helicopter.

[Wolfala]

Its wonderful to know that someone else out there is intelligent enough to read World Air Power Journal

[WHATTHEHELL]

Originally posted by Karnak
I read an interview in the mid '90s of one of our helo pilots who does op for work in Army training exercises and who had also flown the full range of US helos including the Comanche.  He said that of all the helos he had flown the Mi-24 Hind was the one he liked to fly most.  It wasn't what he'd most want to fight in, but for flying fun the Mi-24 was it.

He did mention that the Mi-24 was very good against US troops at the beginning of training exercises as they didn't really understand how fast it is.  It is, IIRC, the fastest helo in the world still.

Karnak, the Hokum and the Havoc were faster and they have faster then the Hind.   Both RUssian.

[Shane]

Originally posted by Tarmac
A buddy of mine is a 3d graphics guy.   As part of his portfolio he's modelling a Hind.  We're both kind of stumped as to what this thing is though.  Looks like it may be some sort of countermeasure dispenser, but the doors face forward, not backward.  

it's obvious!!  those are the hind teats!



oh.. not them orange thingys...

[BUG_EAF322]

They can not hover and take off vertically.

I big handicap for a chopper i think.

[GScholz]

Yes they can hover and take off vertically, I've seen this myself.

[GScholz]

The AH-1Z Super Cobra has a 2.6 G limit and 3.5 G's for the AH-64 Apache.

1.75 G's for a 12 ton monster like the Hind doesn't sound unreasonable. (Even suggesting it can't hover or take off vertically is ludicrous. It's a battlefield troop transport for crying out loud!)

[Gunslngr]

There are some situations where a helicopter, especially one with
wheels, will choose to get a "running start" before lifting off into
the vertical.In some cases of high altitude / density altitude and
a large payload, a running start allows the chopper to get into the
air with more payload and less strain on the systems. Also in dusty enviroments, a rolling takeoff helps keep the pilots vison
ahead clear as the dust is left behind.

In regards to the G-forces, most helicopters rarely pull any G's at
all due to the fact that they are relatively slow (most under 200
mph) and in most cases do not require abrupt manuevers at high
speeds. The Hind, is however one of the attack helicopters that
does operate more like a fixed wing airplane (high speed, wider
turns) and is also one of the most heavily armored helicopters
flying in the world today.  

I remember reading a quote from the afganistan war in the the
rebels said, "We are not afraid of the Russians, but we are afraid
of their Helicopters".........

[Wolfala]

I remember reading a quote from the afganistan war in the the
rebels said, "We are not afraid of the Russians, but we are afraid
of their Helicopters".........



I also remember another famous Russian quote with regard to the Hind during the Afgan War:

"The Hinds flew lower, slower and ovr shorter distances than enayone else', paraphrasing a Soviet Slogan of the 1930's "fly higher, faster and farther than everyone else"

[Furball]

Originally posted by Karnak

It is, IIRC, the fastest helo in the world still.

Westland Lynx

following several trial runs, made the actual record attempt on 11th August over a measured 15 km (9.3 mile) route on the Somerset levels. The final speed, verified by the FAI, was 400.87 kph (249.09 mph) a 9% increase over the previous record. In 1991 the aircraft was modified for flight tests but by mid 1992 the helicopter  was again placed in storage. Following an approach from the Helicopter Museum in late 1994, Westland agreed to transfer the aircraft for display and it was moved from storage to the museum on 19th January 1995. G-LYNX remains the World Speed Record holder, 14 years after it took the title.

[gunnss]

On the ones I had delt with, on the side a foot back and a foot up from the star was a Hydraulic tank that was un armored......  Put one round in it and they had to tear the whole thing down to patch it........ it made a great time waster.

Gunns

[Tarmac]

For anyone who's interested, here's the model he made.  It's about 90% done (no windows or texture), but he's moving on to other stuff and coming back to this one later.  

Thanks for the replies everyone.