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Offline Batz

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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2003, 03:34:25 PM »
Found it

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Aces High Version 1.11

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Adjusted large bore cannon lethality against non-armored targets.

The 37mm of the Ostwind is now strictly HE with no AP component.

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2003, 03:42:22 PM »
Cool.  As usual, the fix list with each version reduces my number of valid whines.  :)

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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2003, 03:43:18 PM »
Back to the original question, was there VT (proximity fuse) ammo fielded for the type of gun in the Ostwind?

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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2003, 03:53:18 PM »
Ahh NM I think only the US and UK had VT fuses during WW2.

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2003, 04:01:41 PM »
I dunno funked  

Heres some info

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/flak4.htm

The round was 37 mm L/98 and I know it could be used against air or ground targets. I assume that it was standard HE round that detonated on contact. On the 88s they were set to detonate at a set altitude. I dont know that the germans used a proximity fuse.

Maybe Tony Williams does.

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2003, 04:16:06 PM »
the germans never had a proximity fuze, they were too busy working on "wonder weapons" to develope one.

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2003, 04:52:18 PM »
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I haven't played enough lately to know if it's still true, but my main complaint with the Porkwind was not the gun, but the fact that it could fire its entire ammo load in one continuous burst without pauses for reloading, and that it didn't have to lower the armor to fire or reload, and that the armor seemed to inexplicably protect the crew from above.  Even rifle caliber MGs should be able to neutralize the gun from above, but back in the day it was as tough as a Pz IV.


The Ostwind, unlike the Wirbelwind (which had a 20mm Flakvierling 38 firing box magazines) had a flat plate ammo feed. Rounds were slapped onto the tray, from which they were fed into the breech mechanism. Because the tray was open, you could keep slapping down more rounds as the gun fired them; as long as your loader could keep up with the cyclic rate of the weapon, you could keep firing as long as your ammo loadout held up.

The US Navy had a similar mechanism for several of its ship-mounted AA guns; with one of them, fresh rounds were dropped in five-round clips (in the literal sense of the term -- five rounds clipped together for ease of handling) into a feed chute; as soon as enough rounds had been fired to make room, another five-round clip could be dropped in, again allowing the gunner to maintain their ROF.

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2003, 05:12:50 PM »
Thanks, it's coming back to me now.  They had a hopper you could put rounds into.  The questions I have then are:  Could they operate the gun with the armor "buttoned up" like in AH.  If they could, how much ammo could they store in a place which was accessible while on the move without exiting the turret or dropping the armor?  Could they really fire all 1000 rounds on the move in one continuous burst without ceasing fire briefly or stopping the vehicle or lowering the armor?

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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2003, 09:59:43 PM »
No they couldn't, they would have to "restock" on ammo
As far as prox fuses on the Ostie or 37mm, no they didn't use them they were impact shells.
And as Iv'e stated before, the Wirbelwind is still my fav:aok and I wish HT would put it into the game {Ya hear me HTC!!!!!!!!!!!!}
http://pictures.panzerworld.net/PzkpfwIV-Wirbelwind/Wirbelwind01.jpg
Just a note, the gun Shiva was refering to I believe was the Bofers 40mm single & twin mount AA gun. It is top loaded by the loaders in 4 round clips {this rounds could be loaded with & without prox fuses}
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