jodgi said:Are you serious, did you put in any effort to understand?
Understand what? The real planes had swastikas. If you are attempting to make realistic copies of them, then the copies should have swastikas. If you do NOT do this, then by are ACTIVELY taking a side, the side of the revisionists. And you are allowing the rest of the world to be repressed by a stupid law that has no power over anybody but the idiots who passed it.
The correct course is to allow the sane people in the world to see history as it was. If others don't want to, then let them suffer the consequences voluntarily, but do not force their assinine views on the rest of us.
It is a good thing that people and companies avoid the swastika. I personally don't feel a thing when I see it, but I understand that it affects many.
How is it possibly a good thing to distort or even deny the very existence of any historical fact? Do you believe in teaching the lie that swastikas never existed? Do you support the way some idiots scratch swastikas out of photographic negatives? Do you think that you can stamp out an evil ideology simply by outlawing the symbols it used? Do you still fail to see the folly of such courses?
In todays world, we have a number of terrorist groups systematically targeting civilians and even children in despicable atrocities. There are many such, but just to pick an example, consider that many such acts are committed under the Palestinian flag. This is to such an extent that the Palestinian flag now symbolizes to many an ideology as evil as anything the nazis ever did. Even though many who patriotically wave that flag are decent folks who have nothing to do with such acts. Just like in nazi Germany. But given the treatment of the swastika, that shouldn't matter. Thus, why don't we outlaw the Palestinian flag as well? That seems a LOT more relevant in today's world than outlawing the symbol of a regime that's been dead and gone for over 1/2 a century.
I would have left this post alone if the viewpoint wasn't put forth so... clumsily. I'm glad some of you are into historical accuracy, maybe some historical sensibilities are in place?
Sensibilities? I had relatives who fell foul of the nazis. I've had friends who've fallen foul of various terror groups. But outlawing the symbols used by those groups certainly won't bring any of them back, nor will it magically erase those evil groups from the earth. All such an action does is make things more difficult to the rest of the world, by shrouding the past in illusion.
As for being "clumsy", I defy you to find anything more clumsy than accepting all the follies and idiocies behind the anti-swastika laws just to be seen as being sympathetic to the minority of fools who enacted them, when really you "don't feeling a thing" about the symbols themselves.
Now, to answer somebody else... if HTC's reasons for allowing the
stupid anti-swastika German/Euro laws to trump what we in the US can do are "clear and well known", then please point me to them. I've never seen their official line on this.
