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Offline Citabria

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109g10 missing white cross markings on top of each wing
« on: October 26, 2003, 10:29:23 PM »


our g10 dosnt have the + crosses on top of the wings
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2003, 02:12:25 AM »
Its the small things in the past that make people wh.....

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109g10 missing white cross markings on top of each wing
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2003, 10:01:13 AM »
wont this be fixed when new skins are introduced?

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2003, 11:21:37 AM »
It's also missing the swastika, as are all German planes in AH1.....

I'm not a nazi, but I am interested in realism.  And I don't care if the Germans have some stupid law that says they can't own swastikas because I'm not a German, nor are 99% of the people in the world.  So I don't see why the rest of us should be penalized for some law that applies only to Germans.

I was involved with the development of the Combat Mission series of wargames.  The developer did not put swastikas on the skins included on the CD, because they wanted to be able to sell the games in Germany.  HOWEVER, they have a site that hosts player-made skins that DO have the swastika on them.  That way, players who want realism can have them.  If the Germans want to break their own law, they can at their own risk; otherwise, they're stuck with the "Teutonically Correct" version.

So when we're able to make skins for AH2, I think HTC should follow the same course.  The stock skins should not have the swastika so the German customers can get the game.  However, there should be no problem with hosting player-made skins that have swastikas on them.  Maybe the skin-makers can send in 2 versions, with and without.  But IMHO not having swastikas for non-Germans is just gay.

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2003, 02:30:23 PM »
i agree with bullet, i like realism, the swastika on the tail was like a trade mark of german aircraft at the time, the thing i dont see is, why should the japanese have the red sun on their airplanes in AH? They did alota bad watermelon too, alota countrys did alota bad watermelon at the time its just how the war went and some crazy peoples mistakes,why should the people who wana see realism and an actual realistic look on their plane be penalised when tons of the other countrys did horrible crap also. Im not saying make it so everyone has to have a swastika on their plane, i mean like a download or somethin so if you want it you can download somethin and it makes it visible to you.:confused: Also this isnt a whine, i could care less wheather it ever happens ill still play AH, just an idea for those who would like to see it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2003, 05:04:06 PM »
Think it's something to do with publishing the 'swastika' in certain European countries, such as France, Poland, Germany etc., where I believe it is illegal to be displayed.  I think boxed games are different for those countries (with no swastika) and since AH is a world wide game there have to be compromises.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2003, 05:45:47 PM »
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Think it's something to do with publishing the 'swastika' in certain European countries, such as France, Poland, Germany etc., where I believe it is illegal to be displayed.  I think boxed games are different for those countries (with no swastika) and since AH is a world wide game there have to be compromises.


That's what I was saying.  There are ways around the gay Euro revisionist laws, which other game companies are using.  The company provides the stock game in "Teutonically Correct" form without swastikas.  But at the same time, it allows players the option to use player-made skins that DO have the swastika.  That way, the rest of the world isn't penalized by the idiots of Europe, and those Euros with balls and dedication to historical accuracy can flout their stupid law at their own risk.

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2003, 05:50:21 PM »
I wish the UK could just move itself away from Europe...

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2003, 06:57:13 PM »
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I wish the UK could just move itself away from Europe...


Unfortunately, to paraphrase the Beatles, Chuck Berry, and several others....

Well they shake and shimmy and
Change their money
Now they whine and each blame
One another
Bend over BenDover
The EU's here to stay

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2003, 07:04:46 PM »
**** the EU.

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2003, 07:49:29 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2003, 09:34:51 PM »
Isn't UK the biggest aircraft carrier in the world? They can move themselves away from the port (Europe) anytime:)

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Re: 109g10 missing white cross markings on top of each wing
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2003, 11:22:38 AM »
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our g10 dosnt have the + crosses on top of the wings


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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2003, 09:58:16 PM »
It's because the swastika actually represents an ideology no one wants to publicize, rather than just an abstract politico-military force.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2003, 12:50:18 AM »
Before the nazis stole it, wasnt the swastika a good luck charm for many people and cultures? And explain to me why the jap planes should have the Red Suns on them when they did just as much bad ****, rape of nanking tons and tons, IMO just a small step below the germans. I think is should be put on but dont really care if it is, i still think its BS to have other symbols on other countries aircraft that did very similar stuff to the nazis and leave out the swastika.