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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JUGgler on August 01, 2011, 08:59:44 PM
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#1- HO = Badform
A: Never HO on 1st merge
B: If not damaged by 1st merge HO allow your opponent the opportunity to redeam herself by realizing you DID
NOT HO at the merge and continue accordingly
C: If you've recieved damage or your female opponent HOd on the 2nd merge then by all means give her the
"money face shot"! After all she is clearly asking for it
#2- VULCH = lame. It is NOT the "sport of kings", it is the "dance of queens"
A: Never vulch
B: Never vulch
C: Never vulch
#3- CHERRYPICK AT THE EDGE OF A BASE= silly tardness.
A: Never cherrypick the edge of a base, see vulching
#4- HORDE
A: Do not join it
B: Always fight against it
#5- COMMIT
A: No matter the odds commit fully to your fight
B: Never "skirt lift, panty soil, scramble to the vert". Commit yourself to the fight
C: Running, If you run please COMMIT to it, DO NOT return to pik someone who just bested you
#6- Never enter a fight that you were not part of in the beginning, unless a friendly is out #d, this includes
squadies! (they never ask for help anyway)
#7- ACK, IF your opponents are giving you room to move then NEVER run to it. IF they are cherryfesting you
Then embrace it, become one with it. It is their silliness that forced the "ack hug"
#8- Become one with "JETRAGE"
#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
#10- Survival is a poor excuse for timidness when there is so much revenge in the hangar :aok
Guidelines that I go by :rock
JUGgler
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Thats kinda cool JUG...
Except I'm thinking vulching is cool... Always better to be the vulcher than the vulchee..
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I agree, good llist. Now if we could get EVERYONE to agree and actually follow through with not behaving like the south end of a horse going north, this sim/game community would be a much better place. :)
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Thats kinda cool JUG...
Except I'm thinking vulching is cool... Always better to be the vulcher than the vulchee..
I'm sure there is much truth in this :joystick:
JUGgler
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Dose vulching include bombing parked GVs?
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Come out of the Middle Ages, chivalry is dead.
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Come out of the Middle Ages, chivalry is dead.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I was clearly born many centuries too late!
JUGgler
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Come out of the Middle Ages, chivalry is dead.
:rofl
far from it :aok
maybe for your age group,(it was never there) but most of us dinosaurs live by it. yes even in a silly game.
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#4- HORDE
A: Do not join it
B: Always fight against it
JUGgler
:rofl
This is one "dicta" that isn't always followed by you or your squadron mates.
ack-ack
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Excuse me sir ..... in regard to #9 ...what happens when you fall into the in between category....not quite a noob anymore but nowhere near a vet :D
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A picture of A23 from JUG's kite. :airplane:
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/445183847a21216c004415a57c947b9df0bd7f42cc8d164b3a1937c6a8b89eab2g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=27bdb7jmwua9lkj&thumb=5)
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:rofl
This is one "dicta" that isn't always followed by you or your squadron mates.
ack-ack
Do not confuse me with vjuggler, TY I am fully aware of where I fly and where I do not fly :aok I am also aware of where you fly and do not fly :aok
JUGgler
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A picture of A23 from JUG's kite. :airplane:
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/445183847a21216c004415a57c947b9df0bd7f42cc8d164b3a1937c6a8b89eab2g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=27bdb7jmwua9lkj&thumb=5)
Cool, I'm the one in the dungeon!
JUGgler
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Excuse me sir ..... in regard to #9 ...what happens when you fall into the in between category....not quite a noob anymore but nowhere near a vet :D
You are no noob, and you are not shabby :aok
Those who are shabby are fully aware of it :old:
JUGgler
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You lost me at never vulch.
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#5 is just myopic. If I enter a fight with altitude against many cons and the only thing keeping me IN the fight is the vertical, I will fight in the g-damn vertical, and no skirt-lifting about it. I'll get my kills and earn them same as you. You make it sound as if the only honest way to earn a fight is to jump in the middle in a turny plane (spit16?) and stall fight. Again: Myopic at best.
#10 is flat out wrong. Survival is the goal. In surviving you defeat the enemy. They want to kill you, and by denying that you have turned the tables. Any sortie you survive, any fight you limp away from and land with 20 missing parts is far more honorable than charging blind into a mindless furball without thought, without desire to survive. Quake-Wars lies that way. It is not a deathmatch with insta-respawns. The point for most of us is always and ever shall be "to survive" and there is NOTHING dishonorable about, no matter how much you want folks to fly your way.
Dicta "Fly my way or else" perhaps... Not something I'd really tell newbies to study, as-is.
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krusty, do you EVER have anything productive, or at least not negative, to say :rofl?
#11 when in doubt of a shot, hold the trigger for that extra 1/2 second
#12 always attack the guys below you, if they didn't want it, they wouldn't be there.
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:huh You violate Dicta Boelke's #1 rule with just about every one of your so called rules. :bhead
:old: "Allways secure an advantage before the fight...". :ahand
:rolleyes: JUGgler wants to fight "fair"? :cry
Pffft, that's a girls game.
EDIT: Oh, now I get it! She's making rules for herself and expects others to keep their purses empty too. :lol
<3 JUGgler :D
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krusty, do you EVER have anything productive, or at least not negative, to say :rofl?
#11 when in doubt of a shot, hold the trigger for that extra 1/2 second
#12 always attack the guys below you, if they didn't want it, they wouldn't be there.
What I typed was very productive and presents an opposite viewpoint that Juggler seemingly insulted with his post. It read very much as a "you're a pansy if you do any of these things I don't like" and normally I don't think Juggler acts this way but I had to counter his post with a viewpoint that many others share. I know many that strive to be better pilots by NOT doing anything he suggests on that list, because it limits you to only one way of flying, and only one way of furballing.
Had you thought of that? Before I posted? Maybe I made you think about it a little more than your first read-through.
Honor is many things to many people... But calling people pansies and ladies because they climb from a fight (implying they have a plane that can outclimb the enemy) when it is wise and just to climb from a fight?
I don't see that as all-that-honorable, so you can see my point of view.
EDIT: Let me say I don't have anything against Juggler. I simply cannot agree with what he's posted and the implied meanings behind it. Dicta Boelke was a set of rules to survive in combat, to win, to fight. It was a mantra for victory. Juggler's is nothing of the sort. It does disservice to the originals... A number of people on these forums take those originals seriously.
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From the rules for Rangers to live by:
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............Only unfair fight is the one you lose................
............................. ...........................En uf said
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:rofl
This is one "dicta" that isn't always followed by you or your squadron mates.
ack-ack
Really?
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:huh You violate Dicta Boelke's #1 rule with just about every one of your so called rules. :bhead
:old: "Allways secure an advantage before the fight...". :ahand
:rolleyes: JUGgler wants to fight "fair"? :cry
Pffft, that's a girls game.
EDIT: Oh, now I get it! She's making rules for herself and expects others to keep their purses empty too. :lol
<3 JUGgler :D
Honestly, how do you form words with that in your mouth?
JUGgler
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Guidelines that I go by :rock
JUGgler
I think this is what I said, it was extremely predictable for most of you to interperate it another way though :rofl :rofl
Trolling those who take the game soooo serious is sooooo easy :devil
BOOM
JUGgler
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From the rules for Rangers to live by:
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............Only unfair fight is the one you lose................
............................. ...........................En uf said
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TdS9F6-hxSA/TbgCUEYeutI/AAAAAAAAAKw/qJZeNir46KE/s1600/Walker-Texas-Ranger.jpg)
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Dicta CorkyJr
1. Planes are free
2. No one really dies so we all survive every fight.
3. Get in there and fight!
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Imagine my surprise when I read this on the forum's today. I could have sworn that I was ho'd (I wasn't) by JUGgler last night after three or four passes when I could have ho'd but didn't. So, I went and looked at the film. Sure enough I learned a few lessons. First, just because I started exploding prior to viewing my plane colliding with his does not mean that I was ho'd (apparently this has to do with lag, or something). The film clearly reveals that I pulled into him and caused the collission and my own demise. He did not shoot at all. Second, I learned that I should always view the film prior to feeling aggrieved and making a remark on Channel 200. Perhaps these two lessons can be added to the dicta. My only consolation is that I did not call him out by name on 200 out of my prior respect for his flying style.
My third lesson is that JUGgler exposed me for a noob (still) and I still have much to learn.
Good lessons all around for me. Also, I appreciate your flying style, while I may not emulate it always or agree with it always it definitely has class. I apologize for doubting you and impugning your honor.
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Dicta Plazus:
1. Have fun
2. Repeat step 1
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Dicta Plazus:
1. Have fun
2. Repeat step 1
yes!
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Commiting:
C: Running, If you run please COMMIT to it, DO NOT return to pik someone who just bested you
Haha.
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Imagine my surprise when I read this on the forum's today. I could have sworn that I was ho'd (I wasn't) by JUGgler last night after three or four passes when I could have ho'd but didn't. So, I went and looked at the film. Sure enough I learned a few lessons. First, just because I started exploding prior to viewing my plane colliding with his does not mean that I was ho'd (apparently this has to do with lag, or something). The film clearly reveals that I pulled into him and caused the collission and my own demise. He did not shoot at all. Second, I learned that I should always view the film prior to feeling aggrieved and making a remark on Channel 200. Perhaps these two lessons can be added to the dicta. My only consolation is that I did not call him out by name on 200 out of my prior respect for his flying style.
My third lesson is that JUGgler exposed me for a noob (still) and I still have much to learn.
Good lessons all around for me. Also, I appreciate your flying style, while I may not emulate it always or agree with it always it definitely has class. I apologize for doubting you and impugning your honor.
Don't worry, I can vouch for JUGgler's HOing. Been HOed by him myself and he does not deny his moment of weakness. :o
Caught him red handed with his hand in the cookie jar. :x
:old: HOing is bad, unless it is fun.
It's no longer fun for me to HO though. Although I admit, also, to my moments of weakness, especially in the past. :frown: :airplane: :joystick:
:neener:
<3 JUGgler :D
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Don't worry, I can vouch for JUGgler's HOing. Been HOed by him myself and he does not deny his moment of weakness. :o
Caught him red handed with his hand in the cookie jar. :x
:old: HOing is bad, unless it is fun.
It's no longer fun for me to HO though. Although I admit, also, to my moments of weakness, especially in the past. :frown: :airplane: :joystick:
:neener:
<3 JUGgler :D
HO tally, midway-2,469 JUGgler- 1 I think you are winning!
JUGgler
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Dicta Assi:
I'll just stop there. It sounds so wrong. :uhoh
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Dicta Assi:
I'll just stop there. It sounds so wrong. :uhoh
:rofl :rofl :rofl :lol :lol :lol
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Imagine my surprise when I read this on the forum's today. I could have sworn that I was ho'd (I wasn't) by JUGgler last night after three or four passes when I could have ho'd but didn't. So, I went and looked at the film. Sure enough I learned a few lessons. First, just because I started exploding prior to viewing my plane colliding with his does not mean that I was ho'd (apparently this has to do with lag, or something). The film clearly reveals that I pulled into him and caused the collission and my own demise. He did not shoot at all. Second, I learned that I should always view the film prior to feeling aggrieved and making a remark on Channel 200. Perhaps these two lessons can be added to the dicta. My only consolation is that I did not call him out by name on 200 out of my prior respect for his flying style.
My third lesson is that JUGgler exposed me for a noob (still) and I still have much to learn.
Good lessons all around for me. Also, I appreciate your flying style, while I may not emulate it always or agree with it always it definitely has class. I apologize for doubting you and impugning your honor.
:salute
There are a couple circumstances that I will HO as I've mentioned, Oh and I will HO midway cause she is always flying around with her mouth open :D (I always lose the HO though). I was tempted to HO you cause jackyl had extended and was returning to pick me, we both pulled hard for closure, I think the collide was on us both! The couple fights we had later were quite fun and I dig your style!!
JUGgler
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Dicta Assi:
I'll just stop there. It sounds so wrong. :uhoh
That's the wisest thing I have read in a long long time.
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What I typed was very productive and presents an opposite viewpoint that Juggler seemingly insulted with his post. It read very much as a "you're a pansy if you do any of these things I don't like" and normally I don't think Juggler acts this way but I had to counter his post with a viewpoint that many others share. I know many that strive to be better pilots by NOT doing anything he suggests on that list, because it limits you to only one way of flying, and only one way of furballing.
Had you thought of that? Before I posted? Maybe I made you think about it a little more than your first read-through.
Honor is many things to many people... But calling people pansies and ladies because they climb from a fight (implying they have a plane that can outclimb the enemy) when it is wise and just to climb from a fight?
I don't see that as all-that-honorable, so you can see my point of view.
EDIT: Let me say I don't have anything against Juggler. I simply cannot agree with what he's posted and the implied meanings behind it. Dicta Boelke was a set of rules to survive in combat, to win, to fight. It was a mantra for victory. Juggler's is nothing of the sort. It does disservice to the originals... A number of people on these forums take those originals seriously.
You assume he implied meaning behind it. I took it as a "my personal code of honor" post.
If I'm nose on, you turn nose on nose with me, then you're going to get a face full of tater. I do that because I've learned that, as an admitidly pessimistic rule, people will HO 99% of the time. I didn't feel insulted or anything, I didn't feel it was a "my way is the only right way to play" type of post.
And while it was productive, I grudgingly give you that, it wasn't JUST productive. You seemed to be trying to belittle and and make irrelevant, JUGgler's post. How are you any better if you say "no, your post is wrong. Thats all there is to it"?
And finally, no you didn't make me think any further. As someone who usually ignores any and all rules when its expedient and increases the chances of my survival, I usually do consider both sides of the argument.
Edit: nothing against you personally, you just often seem to come off as sounding a touch pedantic, perhaps even a little bit snobbish as if you think the other guy is slow for not seeing your point of view.
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everytime I am HOed, I think its their loss as much as mine. . .
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hear hear :aok
another foe with honour it seems :salute
how tight do you stick to your own rules?? my question is what happens if you keep upping to meet a guy who constantly hos... would you break your own rules to teach this guy a lesson?
for me i just do not ho...esp if the enemy is outnumbered like 3-1, no matter how crucial the situation is.. but the sad thing is i always get knocked down by people who ho even tho i try to steer away from the fight... most times i escape, but its not always a perfect plan.... and worst of all, i always get the collision msg.. and its only me.. either i'm lagging constantly or there is a way to prevent this collision as i always try to swerve to miss him but only i get the msg and damage( thats life i guess...i'm living with it).....i think hoing in MA is slightly more acceptable than hoing in the DA...but thats just my opinion...
p.s on occasions i do ho in a fit of outrage... pls forgive...
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:rofl
far from it :aok
maybe for your age group,(it was never there) but most of us dinosaurs live by it. yes even in a silly game.
:aok QFT
:cheers: Oz
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do unto others before they do unto you
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Step right up folks. Step up....Gaze at this 600 pounder here hanging on the line....its the largerst catch yet....1$ to get your picture made with the 600 pound Krusty.
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That Dicta is followed very loosely by yourself (JUGgler) at times :neener:
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Some good points there, Jugg.
Chivalry isnt dead, just became uncommon in the last centuries.
If someone dares to follow this dicta, he ll get respected very soon and improve his skills lightening fast even tho his score will sukk.
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hear hear :aok
another foe with honour it seems :salute
how tight do you stick to your own rules?? my question is what happens if you keep upping to meet a guy who constantly hos... would you break your own rules to teach this guy a lesson?
for me i just do not ho...esp if the enemy is outnumbered like 3-1, no matter how crucial the situation is.. but the sad thing is i always get knocked down by people who ho even tho i try to steer away from the fight... most times i escape, but its not always a perfect plan.... and worst of all, i always get the collision msg.. and its only me.. either i'm lagging constantly or there is a way to prevent this collision as i always try to swerve to miss him but only i get the msg and damage( thats life i guess...i'm living with it).....i think hoing in MA is slightly more acceptable than hoing in the DA...but thats just my opinion...
p.s on occasions i do ho in a fit of outrage... pls forgive...
As taught to me by DMGOD to avoid the HO: "dip down, veer left." He did make me promise to tell others which I do often. :cheers:
Do that at 1.5 to 2k out. I found that it works just about every time. If you're fighting the same person, vary the amount of the dip and the veer to keep them guessing. :aok
I do so enjoy watching their bullet stream pass by to my upper right and then am especially motivated to turn them until they are no more. :D
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honor and spotrsmanship? that was in world war 1 ): no sportsmanship in world war 2, more info search Atomic Bomb!
things that i do:
Fougth the guy, he is trying to ditch (no engine, half a wing etc) i leave the guy to ditch, i have seen some people actually shooting these guys until they become fire and pieces
I WILL defend the base if it is in trouble wich means if i see a bunch of guys high alt with bombs dropping to the town i will stay close to the town and shoot as many of them as i can
I will cover my squadmates and anyone in my side who needs cover
and I avoid HO for my own good since i always lose on that move... is not that hard diving instead of sticking to your first move.
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:rofl
This is one "dicta" that isn't always followed by you or your squadron mates.
ack-ack
Well of course not, but the fight we end up fighting is not always of our own volition. We sure do try to fight the good fight though and we repent when we sin. There is no such thing as a perfect fighter in the eyes of the one Toon God.
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Well of course not, but the fight we end up fighting is not always of our own volition. We sure do try to fight the good fight though and we repent when we sin. There is no such thing as a perfect fighter in the eyes of the one Toon God.
and we certainly know that JUGgler has sinned, don't we JUGgler? :uhoh
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hear hear :aok
another foe with honour it seems :salute
how tight do you stick to your own rules?? my question is what happens if you keep upping to meet a guy who constantly hos... would you break your own rules to teach this guy a lesson?
I think I stick to it better than most would admit, although there are always those who (who without any substantiation) will cry "hypocrasy". In a former incarnation I did plenty of "all of the above". I took a 8 -10 month break and returned with a new way to approach the game "FOR ME". The "fun meter" swung off the chart and I was happy to be back. As I sought out "higher quality" engagements I learned more and started to become a guy some folks sought out to have a good go with. Ofcourse all situations differ but I honestly try to stay true to a style of play that "I" think is "less shabby"
To be honest if I give grief to someone who plays shabby it is cause I honestly think they are better than that! I try very hard not to berate new folks or folks who I know to be still deep in the learning curve, as these folks have every right to get kills anyway possible, and vets can easily work thru these new folks.
These things I will not do
I will not vulch, there is no reason for it and it drives away most who had the inclination to up at that base in the 1st place.
I will not enter a localized fight that started before I got there, there is some interpretaion here as "furballs" can be confusing and chaotic. When I enter a known furball I seek out those that are not currently engaged. Usually I'm attacked in short order so there is not much waiting!
An example of a localized fight is such: I am at 1K rolling with one while evading a B&Z from 2 others, along comes another that was NOT there at the beginning of the engagement this "other" bides her time then saddles up on my 6. What exactly is the point of such play? I accepted the crcumstance I was in, why toss something new into the mix? Is "name in lights" that enticing?<-- this type of play I do not do.
I do not seek out fairness, I seek challenge. I do not seek out "easy" I seek out challenge
I do not think everyone should play as I try to, but I do think it is reasonable for the AH vets to practice a higher standard of interaction.
The game is not to be taken serious and it is just a game. I can honestly say some of the most fun to be had is fighting in an area where "most" of the participents are of "known" quality and most are practicing a "higher standard" of play where folks are standing off from cherryfesting, and not to aggressive at picking, they are also fully vesting themselves in the "moment", win or lose there is an "unspoken" air of respect and admiration for the fight. These nights though becoming few and far between fuel the beast within. Many many nights VS the 80th, the pigs, the 71st, the muppets etc etc have honed my style!
Sadly the 12 hour shackles that have been secured to us all will make my style harder to maintain, it has inspired me to play less :frown:. Maybe I'll get more "honey dos" done this year :)
JUGgler
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#1- HO = Badform
A: Never HO on 1st merge
B: If not damaged by 1st merge HO allow your opponent the opportunity to redeam herself by realizing you DID
NOT HO at the merge and continue accordingly
C: If you've recieved damage or your female opponent HOd on the 2nd merge then by all means give her the
"money face shot"! After all she is clearly asking for it
#2- VULCH = lame. It is NOT the "sport of kings", it is the "dance of queens"
A: Never vulch
B: Never vulch
C: Never vulch
#3- CHERRYPICK AT THE EDGE OF A BASE= silly tardness.
A: Never cherrypick the edge of a base, see vulching
#4- HORDE
A: Do not join it
B: Always fight against it
#5- COMMIT
A: No matter the odds commit fully to your fight
B: Never "skirt lift, panty soil, scramble to the vert". Commit yourself to the fight
C: Running, If you run please COMMIT to it, DO NOT return to pik someone who just bested you
#6- Never enter a fight that you were not part of in the beginning, unless a friendly is out #d, this includes
squadies! (they never ask for help anyway)
#7- ACK, IF your opponents are giving you room to move then NEVER run to it. IF they are cherryfesting you
Then embrace it, become one with it. It is their silliness that forced the "ack hug"
#8- Become one with "JETRAGE"
#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
#10- Survival is a poor excuse for timidness when there is so much revenge in the hangar :aok
Guidelines that I go by :rock
JUGgler
:rofl :aok
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Work on your SA and you won't be "vulched" or "picked" so much. Get your head on a swivel. Check your own 6.
There is a reason that fighters of the era had a big thick piece of glass in the windscreen...and it wasn't a HUD (nor a mirror to apply your mascara in :lol )
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Work on your SA and you won't be "vulched" or "picked" so much. Get your head on a swivel. Check your own 6.
Its not about what you get. Its about how you act. Since only your deeds describe you...
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I will tell you though that great fights do not happen every sortie, in fact they may not happen every night. I applaud you for sticking to your platform, but it ain't for everyone Sir. Using tarded descriptive names to describe anything but your preferred style of flying and fighting is kind of gradeschool though. :aok
Side note:I had an awesome fight last night Yak-9 vs 190A-5. A salute to Scotty for that one!
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Its not about what you get. Its about how you act. Since only your deeds describe you...
Actors, pfffft :rolleyes:
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JUGs dicta reminds me of the story of Saburo Sakai showing frustration to Pug Sutherland with a fist shake that he was going to shoot him down knowing Pug had no ammo to fight back. Or the beat up and dying B-17 that was escorted by a 109 back to friendly airspace...
It's about character....it may not be your kind of character....but it is character. No leg hump here...but I agree with him its just to hard for some folks to equate "win" with a good fight and not making it back. We all HO at times and we've all vulched.
Dodger is right again... Its about the fight. :salute
Changeup
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That 109 pilot was Herr Franz Stigler. :salute
story here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Stigler)
I had the good fortune to have been able to communicate with Herr Stigler before his passing. I also have an autographed photo along with his ME-262 training video.
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That 109 pilot was Herr Franz Stigler. :salute
story here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Stigler)
I had the good fortune to have been able to communicate with Herr Stigler before his passing. I also have an autographed photo along with his ME-262 training video.
Then you sir have met a man with unflinching character and honorable resolve.
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As taught to me by DMGOD to avoid the HO: "dip down, veer left." He did make me promise to tell others which I do often. :cheers:
Do that at 1.5 to 2k out. I found that it works just about every time. If you're fighting the same person, vary the amount of the dip and the veer to keep them guessing. :aok
I do so enjoy watching their bullet stream pass by to my upper right and then am especially motivated to turn them until they are no more. :D
well i guess this works if you were on a 1v1 with the time to plan and maneuver... i am usually tied up 3v1 the least... and these guys will still ho you... my point is.. at the peak of your turn, at almost stalling speed... you fail to notice a diving plane that was hiding 3-5 k above you...and he zooms in to ho you... the only thing you can do, is either dip your nose to dive or turn to swerve away from him...using rudders... and i always get the collision msg and damage sent to me only... i bear no grudge, but move on... but it does take a toll sometimes...
so thats why i am asking jugs, what if he loses his temper or patience one fine day, maybe bad day at work, or Gf/wife problems... will he still stick by this code... even after getting constantly hoed..... cos after its a dicta, and all that mambo jumbo about being veterans have higher standards..will he ho cos he would be a sitting target for a lot of the people who will swoop in for an easy kill......but thats just my thought...
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#1- HO = Badform
A: Never HO on 1st merge
B: If not damaged by 1st merge HO allow your opponent the opportunity to redeam herself by realizing you DID
NOT HO at the merge and continue accordingly
C: If you've recieved damage or your female opponent HOd on the 2nd merge then by all means give her the
"money face shot"! After all she is clearly asking for it
#2- VULCH = lame. It is NOT the "sport of kings", it is the "dance of queens"
A: Never vulch
B: Never vulch
C: Never vulch
#3- CHERRYPICK AT THE EDGE OF A BASE= silly tardness.
A: Never cherrypick the edge of a base, see vulching
#4- HORDE
A: Do not join it
B: Always fight against it
#5- COMMIT
A: No matter the odds commit fully to your fight
B: Never "skirt lift, panty soil, scramble to the vert". Commit yourself to the fight
C: Running, If you run please COMMIT to it, DO NOT return to pik someone who just bested you
#6- Never enter a fight that you were not part of in the beginning, unless a friendly is out #d, this includes
squadies! (they never ask for help anyway)
#7- ACK, IF your opponents are giving you room to move then NEVER run to it. IF they are cherryfesting you
Then embrace it, become one with it. It is their silliness that forced the "ack hug"
#8- Become one with "JETRAGE"
#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
#10- Survival is a poor excuse for timidness when there is so much revenge in the hangar
Hold the phone everyone! If you don't play like Jugler wants he is better than you because of the list provided. :old:
Please have a heart and make his cartoon life easier by committing to honor his dickta. You only think it's your 15 bucks. I'm sure he doesn't think he's better than you because he may have observed these heretofore unpublished standards of conduct and you may have not. I'm sure it may be difficult for some of you to muster the cartoon courage necessary to repeatedly spam the same fighter against overwhelming odds. Take consolation in the fact that you have more courage than your opponent and will be able to share that fact with them on 200. Comments like "lame", "lol" and "tard" can be dished out at your leisure with a clear conscience. :rock This method of gaming will also benefit those of you who have a 5-minute attention span and think AH should more closely resemble such outstanding titles as "Blazing Angels" :huh If you happen to be carrying out a base capture, you are to delay said plans to accommodate the gamey fun factor of the one "spawnspammer" who decides he should be allowed kills at that field. Have a heart, winning is for tards. Thank you Jug for your insight. The source of your superiority and happiness are one and the same.
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Hold the phone everyone! If you don't play like Jugler wants he is better than you because of the list provided. :old:
Please have a heart and make his cartoon life easier by committing to honor his dickta. You only think it's your 15 bucks. I'm sure he doesn't think he's better than you because he may have observed these unpublished standards of conduct and you may have not. I'm sure it may be difficult for some of you to muster the cartoon courage necessary to repeatedly spam the same fighter against overwhelming odds. Take consolation in the fact that you have more courage than your opponent and will be able to share that fact with them on 200. Comments like "lame", "lol" and "tard" can be dished out at your leisure with a clear conscience. :rock This method of gaming will also benefit those of you who have a 5-minute attention span and think AH should more closely resemble such outstanding titles as "Blazing Angels" :huh If you happen to be carrying out a base capture, you are to delay said plans to accommodate the gamey fun factor of the one "spawnspammer" who decides he should be allowed kills at that field. Have a heart, winning is for tards. Thank you Jug for your insight. The source of your superiority and happiness are one and the same, congrats.
:salute
Hmm this is Dicta Juggler and nothing else, and I'm glad he shared. He also mentioned that it is not for everyone. Feel free to post a Dicta Tard though to show your take on things and also emphasize that it need not apply to all, just tards. :devil
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There are legitimate issues brought up. IE: Sure HOing is lame but you have to defend yourself, not whine to influence others. There will always be HOers in the game, period. What's worse, the HO was employed in RL. There was no provision in RL to continuously reup another aircraft at a capped field.
The overtly implied corollary of Jug's post was to proclaim a "better way" than survivalist mentalities. I find such positions untenable in the face of equally "gamey" methods on the other end of the spectrum.
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Hold the phone everyone! If you don't play like Jugler wants he is better than you because of the list provided.
Please have a heart and make his cartoon life easier by committing to honor his dickta. You only think it's your 15 bucks. I'm sure he doesn't think he's better than you because he may have observed these heretofore unpublished standards of conduct and you may have not. I'm sure it may be difficult for some of you to muster the cartoon courage necessary to repeatedly spam the same fighter against overwhelming odds. Take consolation in the fact that you have more courage than your opponent and will be able to share that fact with them on 200. Comments like "lame", "lol" and "tard" can be dished out at your leisure with a clear conscience. This method of gaming will also benefit those of you who have a 5-minute attention span and think AH should more closely resemble such outstanding titles as "Blazing Angels" If you happen to be carrying out a base capture, you are to delay said plans to accommodate the gamey fun factor of the one "spawnspammer" who decides he should be allowed kills at that field. Have a heart, winning is for tards. Thank you Jug for your insight. The source of your superiority and happiness are one and the same.
Idk why you posted this. If you dont like his dicta, then Assi's infamous Victa Boeltke is recommended for you. Without any offense.
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Here are my rules:
#1: My 15 bucks.
#2: It's their 15 bucks.
#3 Don't die if you can help it.
#4 Don't play AH like an Xbox, no vestige of realism will be left. That means no "bomb and bails," no aircraft "spawnspam," and no reckless 1v20s on the deck. I submit it takes as much skill to build a 60-kill streak than it does to get a 2:1 k/d on the deck with a Jug.
#5 Kill all the red crap you can as fast as you can, it's your job.
#6 No vulching cons on the runway, it's safer to let them clear their ack :devil
#7 Avoid the HO, it will allow some noob to kill you. (Exception: If you are deadstick 10ft off the deck in enemy territory and 1v5, let'em have it.)
#8 Contribute to the war effort.
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Number five.
zomg
If you play like you said, dont wonder that you see all the players on the other side as "red crap", or they see you in the simmilar way. Even tho this new side switching sheme is moving towards this... but thats an other story.
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Here are my rules:
#1: My 15 bucks.
#2: It's their 15 bucks.
#3 Don't die if you can help it.
#4 Don't play AH like an Xbox, no vestige of realism will be left. That means no "bomb and bails," no aircraft "spawnspam," and no reckless 1v20s on the deck. I submit it takes as much skill to build a 60-kill streak than it does to get a 2:1 k/d on the deck with a Jug.
#5 Kill all the red crap you can as fast as you can, it's your job.
#6 No vulching cons on the runway, it's safer to let them clear their ack :devil
#7 Avoid the HO, it will allow some noob to kill you. (Exception: If you are deadstick 10ft off the deck in enemy territory and 1v5, let'em have it.)
#8 Contribute to the war effort.
Not bad. :aok
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Number five.
zomg
If you play like you said, dont wonder that you see all the players on the other side as "red crap", or they see you in the simmilar way. Even tho this new side switching sheme is moving towards this... but thats an other story.
:headscratch: Trying to figure out whether this is a red herring or a straw man...
Be honest now, everything is "red crap" till a name pops up. If you don't think that red cons should die then you are clearly after a group hug in which case AH is not the place for you.
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If you don't think that red cons should die then you are clearly after a group hug in which case AH is not the place for you.
I have to agree with you here Letalis. It is not personal, it's just good business to kill red guys. :aok
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#1- HO = Badform
A: Never HO on 1st merge
B: If not damaged by 1st merge HO allow your opponent the opportunity to redeam herself by realizing you DID
NOT HO at the merge and continue accordingly
C: If you've recieved damage or your female opponent HOd on the 2nd merge then by all means give her the
"money face shot"! After all she is clearly asking for it
#2- VULCH = lame. It is NOT the "sport of kings", it is the "dance of queens"
A: Never vulch
B: Never vulch
C: Never vulch
#3- CHERRYPICK AT THE EDGE OF A BASE= silly tardness.
A: Never cherrypick the edge of a base, see vulching
#4- HORDE
A: Do not join it
B: Always fight against it
#5- COMMIT
A: No matter the odds commit fully to your fight
B: Never "skirt lift, panty soil, scramble to the vert". Commit yourself to the fight
C: Running, If you run please COMMIT to it, DO NOT return to pik someone who just bested you
#6- Never enter a fight that you were not part of in the beginning, unless a friendly is out #d, this includes
squadies! (they never ask for help anyway)
#7- ACK, IF your opponents are giving you room to move then NEVER run to it. IF they are cherryfesting you
Then embrace it, become one with it. It is their silliness that forced the "ack hug"
#8- Become one with "JETRAGE"
#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
#10- Survival is a poor excuse for timidness when there is so much revenge in the hangar :aok
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19200000/Ten-Commandments-atheism-19286295-496-452.jpg)
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(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19200000/Ten-Commandments-atheism-19286295-496-452.jpg)
HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAH OH MAN!!
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Idk why you posted this. If you dont like his dicta, then Assi's infamous Victa Boeltke is recommended for you. Without any offense.
Infamous? :furious
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There are legitimate issues brought up. IE: Sure HOing is lame but you have to defend yourself, not whine to influence others. There will always be HOers in the game, period. What's worse, the HO was employed in RL. There was no provision in RL to continuously reup another aircraft at a capped field.
The overtly implied corollary of Jug's post was to proclaim a "better way" than survivalist mentalities. I find such positions untenable in the face of equally "gamey" methods on the other end of the spectrum.
Hmm, I believe I never said my way was a better way, I also said "I don't think my idea is for everyone".
I merely articulated my thoughts with some flair and a tad inuendo. If you are truely offended (as it seems you are) maybe you should look to your own style for the answer to your frustration with me. If the "soft underbelly" of your guilt has been pinched by my post, well that is on you. Believe it or not "Not everyone plays shabby", I could name many many folks who "maybe unknowingly" practice most if not all of the same Dicta
Corky, Grizz, Kappa, Soulyss, Mir, Lazer, Bighorn, Changeup, Dodger, Ink, Irishone, Shuffler, Shemp, Plazus, 0lDemon, Tec, Scotch, Messiah (BK version), Killnu, Domin, Krup (atm lapdancius), Dedalos, on and on and on and on. All these doods have the same thing in common, they would trade a weeks worth of "same ol same ol for 2 hours of "involved, committed, tense, tardless action! So when I say vets should play to a higher standard maybe what I am not understanding is the fact you have no idea what I'm talkin about. If this is the case than we are at an impass.
As far as your comment about #8 "war effort", I truely wish there was some sort of "war" worthy of effort in this game, many of my squadies feel the same!
Again my attempt at offering up my thoughts "with a little troll involved" has yielded a hefty catch for so little effort. I win :aok
JUGgler
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"I don't think my idea is for everyone" is obviously true, but the purpose of the post was...??
I've at least seen Grizz's frustration with the war's depth and agree 100%. Be that as it may I still want some semblance of context for a fight so I try to win the map.
Furballing for its own sake has not held my attention as it has others. The 80th and Muppets have been some of the biggest critics of the 12hr change- you just want to find a good fight. Understand 100% and its your 15bux.
Believe it or not, I played the same way in WB that you do now. I'd up a C205 or Hurri I 20-30 times in a row for the sake of 10-15 kills and get vulched before wheels up half the time. Was it "gamey?" Sure. Was it fun? Yep. So on these points there is no prob whatsoever. Did I ever complain about getting vulched? Maybe. Did I ever expect it to stop? Nope. Did I ever imply I was more courageous or honorable because I played a certain way? Nope. (FYI:There is no doubt in my mind that upping like that makes you a far better pilot faster than any other method, this was my main purpose at the time.)
Nowadays I take more pleasure in living than dying. Just as there is no cartoon courage, there is no such thing as cartoon timidness, only different play styles/goals.
The prob arises when I'm pretty certain you've violated #9 or when you apply the "tard" label even implicitly. I don't kill guys on pavement. I don't need to, most anyone else is happy to do it. I will stop uppers from getting away and grabbing alt esp with a goon in the area. This is just common sense. Now enter the opinion that the guy who spams from the runway has some kind of moral high ground. The vulch and the horde are parts of the game that will never go away, just like Hoing they were part of RL. The spammer is the guy who is "out of place" in this scenario. It is tantamount to knowingly stepping off the curb with oncoming traffic and then complaining about getting hit. Really? You can do it if you want though, it is your 15.
:salute
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Did I ever imply I was more courageous or honorable because I played a certain way? Nope.
You were though. ;)
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You were though. ;)
Daaaaaa! :bhead
:lol
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" Did I ever imply I was more courageous or honorable because I played a certain way?
:salute
Did I? Maybe you need to come to terms with something?
JUGgler
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Here are my rules:
#1: My 15 bucks.
#2: It's their 15 bucks.
#3 Don't die if you can help it.
#4 Don't play AH like an Xbox, no vestige of realism will be left. That means no "bomb and bails," no aircraft "spawnspam," and no reckless 1v20s on the deck. I submit it takes as much skill to build a 60-kill streak than it does to get a 2:1 k/d on the deck with a Jug.
#5 Kill all the red crap you can as fast as you can, it's your job.
#6 No vulching cons on the runway, it's safer to let them clear their ack :devil
#7 Avoid the HO, it will allow some noob to kill you. (Exception: If you are deadstick 10ft off the deck in enemy territory and 1v5, let'em have it.)
#8 Contribute to the war effort.
:rofl
sorry but I like a 1 vs 20, I have full intention of winning one......and have actually come close
red crap :headscratch:
and now for my final.....your number 8.... :rofl...why the hell should I do that, didn't your number 1 dictate that its my 15 to play how I want.....I don't give a crap about the war, never have, never will.......personally I think it is lame to play your "style" who cares if you live, its a silly game that no one really dies, that NO war can ever be won, because this is not WAR...its a f'en game.
what I think is funny, are the guys who try so hard to stay "alive", they will ONLY engage when they have numbers and alt advantage.....ya in my mind it is cowardliness to run from someone who will actually fight, just to come back and pick them while they are engaged with someone else........and then to think you actually "won" against them.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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but he is talking about HIS rules wich means what HE does with his 15 bucks :D playing how YOU play and how I play is about your 15 bux and mine
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I am sorry, while I generally follow those sorts of rules, I won't lay down and die meekly just because I have a couple Spitfires all over me. If I am in that situation and one of them offers the HO, he'll get a face full of 20mm ammo. I don't see any honor in laying down and dying. Every time I take off I intend to land it and will do my best to do so until I either land it or get shot down.
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Clearly, rocket vulching isn't prohibited
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sorry but I like a 1 vs 20, I have full intention of winning one......and have actually come close
red crap :headscratch:
and now for my final.....your number 8.... :rofl...why the hell should I do that, didn't your number 1 dictate that its my 15 to play how I want.....I don't give a crap about the war, never have, never will.......personally I think it is lame to play your "style" who cares if you live, its a silly game that no one really dies, that NO war can ever be won, because this is not WAR...its a f'en game.
what I think is funny, are the guys who try so hard to stay "alive", they will ONLY engage when they have numbers and alt advantage.....ya in my mind it is cowardliness to run from someone who will actually fight, just to come back and pick them while they are engaged with someone else........and then to think you actually "won" against them.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I love the wondrously convenient ignorance on display here...
Note the italicized MY from my post. Unlike Jug, I was asked to post. Unlike Jug I never implied you have to play a certain way to avoid lameness. See my rules 1 and 2, placed there because they should be and also to preempt ppl like you. FYI: Lame in my book equates to things like convenient ignorance and superiority complexes derived from "f'en" video games.
-The guy who dies is the guy who lost, doesn't mean he is the inferior pilot nor does it mean he can't have a moral victory, but the engagement was not his.
-You will never win a 1v20 in a fighter, best scenario is you survive one with kills after you run out of ammo.
-What is more ridiculous: Clearing a friendly's six or expecting not to get "picked" at ANY point in time in the MA? Don't hurt yourself with that one. :rolleyes:
-My impression from you and Jug is that you want recognition for all your awesomeness despite consistently making yourselves horde fodder. I think you guys thrive on these martyr runs because when you are faced with insurmountable odds you never have to face your failings, never have to contemplate that there might be someone out there "better than you," thereby preserving first place for your "digital cajones." :lol
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Well, that, and ALSO you get to say "it TOOK ENOUGH of you!"
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Well, that, and ALSO you get to say "it TOOK ENOUGH of you!"
THIS!
Heck, I like to say that in a 3v1 and the fourth guy in shots you in the face.
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In the end it's your dime.
My biggest thing is that I can't get worked about 'living' as short of dying from a heart attack from sitting at the computer too long, I'll never die in Aces High.
I don't have enough hours to fly where I can spend the time always looking to set up the perfect situation. So into the crowd I go. Sometimes I come out the other side. Not often, and if I do, I tend to turn around and go back in, because there is no risk and the only reward I can find in the game is the fight.
Where 'living' does matter to me in AH is in special events. At that point, staying 'alive' has an impact on the overall event. No such issue in the MA. I proved to myself long ago that if I flew a certain way, and flew better birds, I could 'live'.
Now my theory is I'd rather fight from the disadvantage in a lesser bird and see how long I can last. That's the challenge to me. But that's me. It doesn't make anyone else wrong in how they 'fly'.
And yeah, being able to on occasion say "it took enough of you" is kinda fun :)
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I love the wondrously convenient ignorance on display here...
Note the italicized MY from my post. Unlike Jug, I was asked to post. Unlike Jug I never implied you have to play a certain way to avoid lameness. See my rules 1 and 2, placed there because they should be and also to preempt ppl like you. FYI: Lame in my book equates to things like convenient ignorance and superiority complexes derived from "f'en" video games.
-The guy who dies is the guy who lost, doesn't mean he is the inferior pilot nor does it mean he can't have a moral victory, but the engagement was not his.
-You will never win a 1v20 in a fighter, best scenario is you survive one with kills after you run out of ammo.
-What is more ridiculous: Clearing a friendly's six or expecting not to get "picked" at ANY point in time in the MA? Don't hurt yourself with that one. :rolleyes:
-My impression from you and Jug is that you want recognition for all your awesomeness despite consistently making yourselves horde fodder. I think you guys thrive on these martyr runs because when you are faced with insurmountable odds you never have to face your failings, never have to contemplate that there might be someone out there "better than you," thereby preserving first place for your "digital cajones." :lol
:rofl :rofl
please there are many "better" then me, I don't give a crap about who is "better" obviously YOU do...what I care about is a good fight, you on the other hand care about winning, or who is better.....see the difference.....
lets see.....I fight.....period... no matter the odds against me, I don't run away like a little girl because I don't want to have my cartoon die, unlike you and many others....who care about your cartoon life....
I don't give a crap about "winning" to me winning is having a good fight live or die.....if I fight some one and kill him quick I feel robbed, I didn't "win" anything, just beat someone who was not up to par, I would MUCH rather lose a long drawn out heart pumping fight, then beat some guy in a turn or two.
unlike you and your ilk who it is all about the kills and "winning" the guys who jump on one con 7, 8, 9, on one and then slap your backs for killing him...THAT is pathetic in my mind.
and yes I will win a 20 vs 1...just because you cant, or wont even try, does not mean I wont or cant :aok
someone told me when I first stated it was imposable to win against 4 or more....well I have proven THAT was a fallacy...I have won many 4vs1....as a matter of fact the highest so far was an 8 vs 1.....yes I usually get called a cheater...in those instances, but that's because guys like you, who think you are all that because you don't "die" often, when someone like me who dies just about every sortie(gee I must suk) must be cheating there is NO way he can kill 4 or more cons on him. its impossible. :rolleyes:
oh and one last thing........my "EGO" as you say....is not from any cartoon game that's for sure...its from a life long fight and overcoming stuff that 99% would curl and and cry for there mommies.
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:rofl :rofl
please there are many "better" then me, I don't give a crap about who is "better" obviously YOU do...what I care about is a good fight, you on the other hand care about winning, or who is better.....see the difference.....
lets see.....I fight.....period... no matter the odds against me, I don't run away like a little girl because I don't want to have my cartoon die, unlike you and many others....who care about your cartoon life....
I don't give a crap about "winning" to me winning is having a good fight live or die.....if I fight some one and kill him quick I feel robbed, I didn't "win" anything, just beat someone who was not up to par, I would MUCH rather lose a long drawn out heart pumping fight, then beat some guy in a turn or two.
unlike you and your ilk who it is all about the kills and "winning" the guys who jump on one con 7, 8, 9, on one and then slap your backs for killing him...THAT is pathetic in my mind.
and yes I will win a 20 vs 1...just because you cant, or wont even try, does not mean I wont or cant :aok
someone told me when I first stated it was imposable to win against 4 or more....well I have proven THAT was a fallacy...I have won many 4vs1....as a matter of fact the highest so far was an 8 vs 1.....yes I usually get called a cheater...in those instances, but that's because guys like you, who think you are all that because you don't "die" often, when someone like me who dies just about every sortie(gee I must suk) must be cheating there is NO way he can kill 4 or more cons on him. its impossible. :rolleyes:
oh and one last thing........my "EGO" as you say....is not from any cartoon game that's for sure...its from a life long fight and overcoming stuff that 99% would curl and and cry for there mommies.
Great, you think you'll win a 1v20. I know you are capable of a 4v1, you have some work cut out for you. I'd put you up against 20 vTards any day but you will run out of ammo, proxies excluded. :lol I like to win, sorry if that offends you, see (and read) my rule #1, then take comfort in my rule #2. I see a common thread with you and Jug: MO= Walk into said 1v20, get killed, throw out a "lol" or a "nice pick tard" on 200 which implies that had you been 1v1 you would have won. Regardless of whether or not that was the case your "fighting spirit" put you in a position where you were going to die due to your inability to survive. Who should take crap for that? Do you expect to walk into a 1v20 and get a 1v1? Does this kind of behavior not sound like shortsighted, self-centered self-gratification at best and egotistical delusion at its worst? Go club baby seals 1v1 in the DA, at least then you might win and the chest thumping wouldn't be so...posthumous. If you guys must continue to exact martyrdom upon yourselves at least wait a few potatoes for the other guy to <S> you or compliment you before exposing ego- the experience will be better for all involved.
I know it can be fun to furball it up, but walking into a 4v1 that lasts 4-5 minutes and dying after a couple kills doesn't give me the satisfaction of whittling down a horde by claiming 5-10 cons over 15 minutes. One method is simply more consistent than the other. One method gets adrenaline, the other turns battles. 15 buck rules apply.
Confidence founded in competence is good. Ego founded in mere aspiration is never good imho and while I'm glad you have overcome the challenges in your life, the AH MA does not know, nor care about such things when presented with a dangling Ki84.
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I know it can be fun to furball it up, but walking into a 4v1 that lasts 4-5 minutes and dying after a couple kills doesn't give me the satisfaction of whittling down a horde by claiming 5-10 cons over 15 minutes.
Translation- "I'm a timid little picktard"
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Great, you think you'll win a 1v20. I know you are capable of a 4v1, you have some work cut out for you. I'd put you up against 20 vTards any day but you will run out of ammo, proxies excluded. :lol I like to win, sorry if that offends you, see (and read) my rule #1, then take comfort in my rule #2. I see a common thread with you and Jug: MO= Walk into said 1v20, get killed, throw out a "lol" or a "nice pick tard" on 200 which implies that had you been 1v1 you would have won. Regardless of whether or not that was the case your "fighting spirit" put you in a position where you were going to die due to your inability to survive. Who should take crap for that? Do you expect to walk into a 1v20 and get a 1v1? Does this kind of behavior not sound like shortsighted, self-centered self-gratification at best and egotistical delusion at its worst? Go club baby seals 1v1 in the DA, at least then you might win and the chest thumping wouldn't be so...posthumous. If you guys must continue to exact martyrdom upon yourselves at least wait a few potatoes for the other guy to <S> you or compliment you before exposing ego- the experience will be better for all involved.
I know it can be fun to furball it up, but walking into a 4v1 that lasts 4-5 minutes and dying after a couple kills doesn't give me the satisfaction of whittling down a horde by claiming 5-10 cons over 15 minutes. One method is simply more consistent than the other. One method gets adrenaline, the other turns battles. 15 buck rules apply.
Confidence founded in competence is good. Ego founded in mere aspiration is never good imho and while I'm glad you have overcome the challenges in your life, the AH MA does not know, nor care about such things when presented with a dangling Ki84.
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WOW, you need to re-read what I wrote and try very very hard to comprehend it! Stop redefining what I have said, please be accurate!
You seem to be one of those irritating neighbors who puts their own spin on everything that has nothing to do with them!
Here get this, you pik me I LOL at you, you get butt hurt then escalate on 200. Who exactly is protecting their ego OR trying to self validate and justify their own tardness to themselves? It seems quite evident to me. You get the cheap kill, I get a cheap LOL <-- Seems like a fair trade, but you can't leave it at that.
As you said it is your $15, well it is also my $15 you will pick cheap, I will LOL. Is it a big deal? I don't think so. Is the LOL a big deal to you? I think yes ;)
SURVIVAL IS A POOR EXCUSE FOR TIMIDNESS WHEN THERE IS SO MUCH REVENGE IN THE HANGAR
JUGgler
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Translation- "I'm a timid little picktard"
Define me however you want. What are you gonna do about it big guy? In exchange don't tell me how to fly, don't whine or chest thump when you buy it. We know you're all that.
I'm beginning to feel safe nominating the Muppets as most egotistical squad in AH. :ahand
Take some pointers from ~LD~, I never see them whine on 200 and if I remember correctly they won the last SDL, not you...so get over yourselves.
"you will pick cheap, I will LOL."
I know you guys put up a good fight. It seems obvious to me that the "lol" asserts superiority in defeat and that smacks of ego. I don't see Corky doing that. There's simply no point. If you know the defeat is coming than take the enjoyment out of the experience and be sporting about the outcome. Chances are there is a <S>ympathy coming your way, no reason to ruin it! We are obviously at opposite ends of the spectrum but I don't by default go "lol, you just walked into 20 cons u tard and died" on 200...
PM if you want to talk offline.
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Define me however you want. What are you gonna do about it big guy?
:rofl
You been peeking at me in the bathroom again? :D
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Great, you think you'll win a 1v20. I know you are capable of a 4v1, you have some work cut out for you. I'd put you up against 20 vTards any day but you will run out of ammo, proxies excluded. :lol I like to win, sorry if that offends you, see (and read) my rule #1, then take comfort in my rule #2. I see a common thread with you and Jug: MO= Walk into said 1v20, get killed, throw out a "lol" or a "nice pick tard" on 200 which implies that had you been 1v1 you would have won. Regardless of whether or not that was the case your "fighting spirit" put you in a position where you were going to die due to your inability to survive. Who should take crap for that? Do you expect to walk into a 1v20 and get a 1v1? Does this kind of behavior not sound like shortsighted, self-centered self-gratification at best and egotistical delusion at its worst? Go club baby seals 1v1 in the DA, at least then you might win and the chest thumping wouldn't be so...posthumous. If you guys must continue to exact martyrdom upon yourselves at least wait a few potatoes for the other guy to <S> you or compliment you before exposing ego- the experience will be better for all involved.
I know it can be fun to furball it up, but walking into a 4v1 that lasts 4-5 minutes and dying after a couple kills doesn't give me the satisfaction of whittling down a horde by claiming 5-10 cons over 15 minutes. One method is simply more consistent than the other. One method gets adrenaline, the other turns battles. 15 buck rules apply.
Confidence founded in competence is good. Ego founded in mere aspiration is never good imho and while I'm glad you have overcome the challenges in your life, the AH MA does not know, nor care about such things when presented with a dangling Ki84.
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nothing that you (or anyone for that matter-except my squadies) does can "offend" me in this silly little game.....I just want a good fight, what the hell is so hard to understand about that? "if I attack 20 do I expect a 1vs1?".....ahh NO I never expect a 1vs1 in the MA.....but I do expect a good fight.....seeings how this is a combat game....it is quite sad that 3 cons will run from one guy because they don't have ALT advantage.....
I never give out crap on 200 unless they start it first...brag about killing me(usually with 5 or more of there friends) or whatever, then ya I will rip them a new one on 200.....I will most often give a <S> first, or say "good shot" or "nice moves" I try to always be cordial in game, but I will most certainly give it back to someone who starts with me....the difference is I wont quit or back off.
I will give anyone a good fight guaranteed , but if they have lost my respect I wont even acknowledge they exist, and no I don't equate skill with respect, I give respect to those that earn it by there actions or words they use....take DMGOD a lot of people don't like him, and are always trying to give him a hard time, but I respect him a lot, and he has ganged me...does that ruin my respect for him?.....NOPE he earned my respect by his actions....I don't care if I am HO'ed, Ganged, Vulched, picked, its the MA that's the way of it, does that mean I agree with it...NOPE.....have I done those things...yup...do I practice those things...HELL NO......I have vulched 3 times in the last 4 years....I try very hard NOT to gang......or HO.....do I expect people to fly the way I do....far from it...once again...the ONLY thing I expect for my 15 dollars is a FIGHT....whether its 1vs1 or 20vs1.......I want a fight...is that to much to expect in a combat game?
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Define me however you want. What are you gonna do about it big guy? In exchange don't tell me how to fly, don't whine or chest thump when you buy it. We know you're all that.
I'm beginning to feel safe nominating the Muppets as most egotistical squad in AH. :ahand
Egoistic? Couse they arent afraid of playing it down in an 1v1, 1v3, 1v5, hell, 1v20?
What you play for? The survival? Heck, i up a b-29, climb to 20k, noone will be able even to get close, ill survive and will be number one in bomber. Its your 15 bucks...
What if you only engage at advantage? Isnt timid... call it smart or what you want. But what if everyones thinking in the same way? Imagine the gameplay full of vDallases... would that be an enjoyable game, would that worth the 15 bucks? I would never plan my return if there were no Bunnies, Stormdog, MakeT, Krupcake, Bruv, EagleOne, Scotty57, MickyD, PFD, 8Spade, IrishOne, Manurin etc etc. Couse they arent afraid of an equal fight or a little bit of disadvantage, they just fight, win or lose, who cares. Couse they bring the quality to this game. Even if they lose the fight, they still win... at least respect.
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Egoistic? Couse they arent afraid of playing it down in an 1v1, 1v3, 1v5, hell, 1v20?
What you play for? The survival? Heck, i up a b-29, climb to 20k, noone will be able even to get close, ill survive and will be number one in bomber. Its your 15 bucks...
What if you only engage at advantage? Isnt timid... call it smart or what you want. But what if everyones thinking in the same way? Imagine the gameplay full of vDallases... would that be an enjoyable game, would that worth the 15 bucks? I would never plan my return if there were no Bunnies, Stormdog, MakeT, Krupcake, Bruv, EagleOne, Scotty57, MickyD, PFD, 8Spade, IrishOne, Manurin etc etc. Couse they arent afraid of an equal fight or a little bit of disadvantage, they just fight, win or lose, who cares. Couse they bring the quality to this game. Even if they lose the fight, they still win... at least respect.
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Referring to your opponent as a she is Zap law.
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Referring to your opponent as a she is Zap law.
We all know why this is, but it's apparently an old joke :)
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SURVIVAL IS A POOR EXCUSE FOR TIMIDNESS WHEN THERE IS SO MUCH REVENGE IN THE HANGAR
You seem to be trying to coin a catchprase with this one.
I could supply you with tons of alternatives, just as easly.
MINDLESS FURBALLING IS A POOR EXCUSE TO BLAME THE ENEMY FOR SHOOTING YOU DOWN
or, maybe,
RECKLESSLY DIVING INTO 20-1 ODDS IS ALSO WHAT 2-WEEK NEWBIES DO
or, just maybe,
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES ARE JUST AS BAD AS TIMID ONES
Yes... that last one works just as well.
Putting it in CAPS doesn't make it any more true, accurate, or memorable.
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HAHHA OH MAN!!
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Maybe, those who do not fly by the JUGgler Dicta are like me and like to "pretend" while they are playing.
I pretend that the plane isn't mine, its owned by Uncle Sam or the Luftwaffe, or the Emperor and I have been given orders to go kill the enemy AND bring back their plane safely home.
I pretend I am a fighter pilot and I want to perform my mission as if I really die so securing an advantage is a worthwhile endeavor. Those advantages include but are not limited to:
Pilot skill, E state, surprise, SA, numerical superiority.
I like to think it takes some skills to know when "It's time to go", and the ability to extricate yourself from a fight and deny your enemy a kill is a worthwhile endeavor.
I think it is fun to be able to read the map, keep track of multiple bandits, and place myself in a position where an intercept and kill is possible or better yet, likely.
JUGgler, besides our gameplay differences, I would rather choose my words to convey my ideas and opinions in a non-antagonistic manner, without using words or phrases that belittle
those I disagree with, to keep the focus on the idea or opinion.
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RECKLESSLY DIVING INTO 20-1 ODDS IS ALSO WHAT 2-WEEK NEWBIES DO
Heh.
Slight addendum:
RECKLESSLY DIVING INTO 20-1 ODDS AND THEN WHINING ABOUT IT ON 200 IS ALSO WHAT 2-WEEK NEWBIES DO
But that's just my preference.
I just wish some of these guys who seem to be in a constant sweaty liplock with their reflection in the mirror would get over themselves.
Yes, we get it. There were more of them than you. You died because you put yourself in the situation. You stuck around to get a couple more kills before you were overwhelmed. Hooray for you. :aok
Can we move past that now and just have some fun instead of browbeating each other about which is the more awesome way to play and just all be awesome together? You guys get to have fun fighting from the bottom against odds, the people who are trying to push you back get to pile onto you to give you the fight you want, and everybody's happy up until the whining starts on 200.
You put yourself in a many v 1. You turned into the guy to get face shot. Are you that dim, that after weeks and months of the same behavior yielding the same results you're still surprised when it happens, and feel the need to illustrate your surprise to all and sundry on 200? :headscratch:
I agree with Zoney's comment about knowing when it's 'time to go'. That is usually the defining moment for me in a sortie, is after I make a kill or two in an area and see the enemy dots headed my way. Do I get out, or are they possible to take given the situation? Pushing that 'time to go' out further and further is where I find my fun, trying to get one or two of the enemy in a crowd before slipping away with their friends nipping at my heels low on gas, parts, or ammo. To me, that's more fun than just staying around to be overwhelmed. There's no excitement for me if I know ultimately I'm going to die under the current dogpile because escape is impossible.
Obviously that's not how everybody thinks.
Wiley.
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Well said Zoney. Well said. :salute
And once again, I agree with Krusty....more or less :uhoh
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It's about styles I suppose...none are really wrong, but some are viewed differently by different people. Peoples styles diverge quickly in this game because no one really dies and because people want different levels of what they perceive to be competition. This thread proves this.
Changeup
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You seem to be trying to coin a catchprase with this one.
I could supply you with tons of alternatives, just as easly.
MINDLESS FURBALLING IS A POOR EXCUSE TO BLAME THE ENEMY FOR SHOOTING YOU DOWN
or, maybe,
RECKLESSLY DIVING INTO 20-1 ODDS IS ALSO WHAT 2-WEEK NEWBIES DO
or, just maybe,
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES ARE JUST AS BAD AS TIMID ONES
Yes... that last one works just as well.
Putting it in CAPS doesn't make it any more true, accurate, or memorable.
spoken like a true run tard :aok
after all these years playing you would think you would actually put up a fight instead of run to the closest ACK....oh wait...Im sorry you were in a "crappy" plane.......with a 4 K alt advantage... :rofl :rofl.... :aok
makes for a wonderfully funny film
you know compared to all you old timers..."been flying since AW days"...I am a noob...
pfft...... forget about it.......waste of my time.
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Dammit INK, you have to stay alive!!! My God man, there's a war to win!!!!
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Maybe JUGgler has this all backwards?
:noid
<3 JUGgler :devil :D
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Dammit INK, you have to stay alive!!! My God man, there's a war to win!!!!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I say juggler contradicts himself on several of his points. specially the one about not joining the horde, seen him many times in the middle of it. then again it's like a ho, only the other players do it, he only does front 1/4 shots.
but the funniest thing is #1 never ho on the first merge. so i assume you are ok with hoing on the second merge, or the third, since you dont mention it.
and btw cherry picking at the end of the field. what exactly does that mean? because I am 100% sure that there is no player here that doesnt cherrypick or try at least once in every flight. just some fly in denial.
definition of jetrage: I got shot down many times because i was an idiot and upped a capped field many times. so I must come back to prove that cherrypicking low planes cannot be done in it a 262. which that in itself contradicts #5c, but hey who cares I make the rules.
Juggler play the damn game and stop with the "people must fight they way I want" threads. perhaps some of you players of excellence should create your own arena, see how long before you get tired of it and come back to the ma, to keep whining about other people.
semp
semp
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Juggler play the damn game and stop with the "people must fight they way I want" threads. perhaps some of you players of excellence should create your own arena, see how long before you get tired of it and come back to the ma, to keep whining about other people.
semp
semp
Yeah, Juggler. Only the POTW can make posts on how others should play the game. Now play how semp wants you too or you will get another strongly worded post. :old:
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Seems to me some folks are getting a bit too bent out of shape by JUG's rules for flying. I don't recall he demanded anyone else fly it that way. He was just throwing it out there as his approach to the game.
Bottom line is it will always remain your dime, and you will fly that dime the way you want to. He's found he has the most fun playing the game by the rules he put down. Sharing them as food for thought for other players is not a sin as far as I know. Could be some new guy visiting the boards might see it and give them a try.
That the original post has caused folks who don't fly that way to get defensive, reflects on those reacting, not on what JUG wrote.
If you are comfortable and having fun with the way you play the game, then relax and don't feel the need to defend it.
Do note that at the bottom of the original post JUG writes "These are the rules I fly by" At no point does he say, these are the rules everyone should fly by.
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"Re: Dicta JUGgler AH2"
I say again, perhaps it's backwards. :lol :lol :lol :devil :D :neener:
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Yeah, Juggler. Only the POTW can make posts on how others should play the game. Now play how semp wants you too or you will get another strongly worded post. :old:
Easy there slugger...we Pigs have learned to live with one another despite having a difference of opinion on certain matters. ;)
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Seems to me some folks are getting a bit too bent out of shape by JUG's rules for flying. I don't recall he demanded anyone else fly it that way. He was just throwing it out there as his approach to the game.
Bottom line is it will always remain your dime, and you will fly that dime the way you want to. He's found he has the most fun playing the game by the rules he put down. Sharing them as food for thought for other players is not a sin as far as I know. Could be some new guy visiting the boards might see it and give them a try.
That the original post has caused folks who don't fly that way to get defensive, reflects on those reacting, not on what JUG wrote.
If you are comfortable and having fun with the way you play the game, then relax and don't feel the need to defend it.
Do note that at the bottom of the original post JUG writes "These are the rules I fly by" At no point does he say, these are the rules everyone should fly by.
hear,hear....seconded
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The only question I have is for the "realism" folks. How many of the realism folks have to follow orders in this game or have to follow a "mission-first" doctrine of combat? Nevermind...lol
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Seems to me some folks are getting a bit too bent out of shape by JUG's rules for flying. I don't recall he demanded anyone else fly it that way. He was just throwing it out there as his approach to the game.
Bottom line is it will always remain your dime, and you will fly that dime the way you want to. He's found he has the most fun playing the game by the rules he put down. Sharing them as food for thought for other players is not a sin as far as I know. Could be some new guy visiting the boards might see it and give them a try.
That the original post has caused folks who don't fly that way to get defensive, reflects on those reacting, not on what JUG wrote.
If you are comfortable and having fun with the way you play the game, then relax and don't feel the need to defend it.
Do note that at the bottom of the original post JUG writes "These are the rules I fly by" At no point does he say, these are the rules everyone should fly by.
Except when you use words and phrases like "female apponent, lame, dance of queens, tardness, skirt lift, panty soil, cherryfesting, noobs, shabby" to describe the alternate of what you consider good gameplay. Then you are not expressing your opinion in a civil fashion as much as you are commenting about how others play in a derragatory way.
Basically he is telling us how he plays and hes telling us what we are with those words if we are not playing his way.
Look at it this way, if you walk up to a young lady and say, "Hey you are really pretty for a fat chick", you aren't telling her she's pretty, your using your compliment of her being pretty to tell her she is fat.
If you cannot express your opinion in a civilized manner then you should expect uncivilized responses.
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Except when you use words and phrases like "female apponent, lame, dance of queens, tardness, skirt lift, panty soil, cherryfesting, noobs, shabby" to describe the alternate of what you consider good gameplay. Then you are not expressing your opinion in a civil fashion as much as you are commenting about how others play in a derragatory way.
Basically he is telling us how he plays and hes telling us what we are with thos words if we are not playing his way.
Look at it this way, if you walk up to a young lady and say, "Hey you are really pretty for a fat chick", you aren't telling her she's pretty, your using your compliment of her being pretty to tell her she is fat.
If you cannot express your opinion in a civilized manner than expect uncivilized responses.
You make my point for me Zoney. Are you having fun in how you play the game? If so, then why care about what JUG said. "Sticks and stones" applies in this case I think. People might assume from your reaction that at some level you are uncomfortable with the way you play the game, and feel a need to defend it.
If that's not the case, then don't bite :)
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Except when you use words and phrases like "female apponent, lame, dance of queens, tardness, skirt lift, panty soil, cherryfesting, noobs, shabby" to describe the alternate of what you consider good gameplay. Then you are not expressing your opinion in a civil fashion as much as you are commenting about how others play in a derragatory way.
Basically he is telling us how he plays and hes telling us what we are with those words if we are not playing his way.
Look at it this way, if you walk up to a young lady and say, "Hey you are really pretty for a fat chick", you aren't telling her she's pretty, your using your compliment of her being pretty to tell her she is fat.
If you cannot express your opinion in a civilized manner then you should expect uncivilized responses.
:old: Sometimes truth can be painful and a catalyst for improvement.
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That the original post has caused folks who don't fly that way to get defensive, reflects on those reacting, not on what JUG wrote.
I disagree.
If you are comfortable and having fun with the way you play the game, then relax and don't feel the need to defend it.
Do note that at the bottom of the original post JUG writes "These are the rules I fly by" At no point does he say, these are the rules everyone should fly by.
He does in fact say 'These are the rules I fly by'. Rules 1, 2, 3, and 9 are also worded in such a way that it's pretty abundantly clear that people who do those things are Bad People(tm). It can't be both ways, and I'm reasonably comfortable asserting that his feelings on the matter are more on the 'fly the way I want you to' than the 'live and let live' end of things.
I've watched him do his thing upping repeatedly from a base into a crowd. The first thing I noticed about him was seeing what leads up to his whines about HOs. Not always, but often enough he would turn into them and then whine about being shot in the face. He ups into a crowd, then whines about being shot down by the crowd at the edge of his base.
He incites so that he can condemn, and that's lame.
Wiley.
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Seems to me some folks are getting a bit too bent out of shape by JUG's rules for flying. I don't recall he demanded anyone else fly it that way. He was just throwing it out there as his approach to the game.
Bottom line is it will always remain your dime, and you will fly that dime the way you want to. He's found he has the most fun playing the game by the rules he put down. Sharing them as food for thought for other players is not a sin as far as I know. Could be some new guy visiting the boards might see it and give them a try.
That the original post has caused folks who don't fly that way to get defensive, reflects on those reacting, not on what JUG wrote.
If you are comfortable and having fun with the way you play the game, then relax and don't feel the need to defend it.
Do note that at the bottom of the original post JUG writes "These are the rules I fly by" At no point does he say, these are the rules everyone should fly by.
no what I find funny is you thinking he actually does what he preaches.
semp
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I might follow those rules if JugGler weren't so timid in that lame 110 :noid
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no what I find funny is you thinking he actually does what he preaches.
semp
My experience fighting JUG has always been a good one. Does that make him a saint? Not that I'm aware of :)
Obviously you have to make your own judgement about people based on your experience.
Clearly he managed to tweak quite a few people with what he wrote.
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My experience fighting JUG has always been a good one. Does that make him a saint? Not that I'm aware of :)
Obviously you have to make your own judgement about people based on your experience.
Clearly he managed to tweak quite a few people with what he wrote.
Ditto....I hope it isn't tweak...By looking at the thread it caused players to decide which style of play they espouse...some admitted it and some threw it back at him which perhaps is unwittingly admitting their style of play. There is no victor here i can assure you of that...style can't be argued because it's a choice based on how someone feels......style can only be criticized or applauded.
Chnageup
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Look at it this way, if you walk up to a young lady and say, "Hey you are really pretty for a fat chick", you aren't telling her she's pretty, your using your compliment of her being pretty to tell her she is fat.
OR are you saying she's pretty and fat? I think you reveal something about yourself here!
I have known plenty of girls who are pretty and fat, would they be offended to hear such truth? YES obviously, is it still the truth? YES obviously. Hell at the age of 43 my wife is puting on a little, she was and is still pretty. You see the presumed offence is in the eyes of the offended not necessarily in the eyes of the presumed offender! I think some truth has been spoke in the OPs statement and many folks' ego has been bruised by "their own" interpretation of said truth!
JUGgler
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OR are you saying she's pretty and fat? I think you reveal something about yourself here!
I have known plenty of girls who are pretty and fat, would they be offended to hear such truth? YES obviously, is it still the truth? YES obviously. Hell at the age of 43 my wife is puting on a little, she was and is still pretty. You see the presumed offence is in the eyes of the offended not necessarily in the eyes of the presumed offender! I think some truth has been spoke in the OPs statement and many folks' ego has been bruised by "their own" interpretation of said truth!
JUGgler
Gah Jug. :bhead
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This whole thread is about wanting to get validation for your garbage 'style'. Most people, if they disagree will just say 'to each his own', but all of you felt the need to promote your style with the unspoken pretext that you believe your style is better than Jugglers. Talk about arrogance, what makes you think your style is any better or worse than Jugglers, only because you choose to do it, and because you are the god's gift to AH?
So Juggler has a set of rules he plays by, so what.....
carry on...
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This whole thread is about wanting to get validation for your garbage 'style'. Most people, if they disagree will just say 'to each his own', but all of you felt the need to promote your style with the unspoken pretext that you believe your style is better than Jugglers. Talk about arrogance, what makes you think your style is any better or worse than Jugglers, only because you choose to do it, and because you are the god's gift to AH?
So Juggler has a set of rules he plays by, so what.....
carry on...
Ardy, JUGgler expressed his opinion, I expressed mine without namecalling, without negative innuendo, I do not understand how that now makes me arrogant or my style "garbage", nor do I believe I have ever thought or expressed that I was "Gods gift to AH".
Acually I agree with you and think the different ways each of us play actually makes gameplay more fun because of the diversity. There is nothing that ever makes me angry about AH. There is no one here that I dislike at best, my least favorite players here will be treated with respect at all times. I also do not expect the same in return.
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Ardy, JUGgler expressed his opinion, I expressed mine without namecalling, without negative innuendo, I do not understand how that now makes me arrogant or my style "garbage", nor do I believe I have ever thought or expressed that I was "Gods gift to AH".
Acually I agree with you and think the different ways each of us play actually makes gameplay more fun because of the diversity. There is nothing that ever makes me angry about AH. There is no one here that I dislike at best, my least favorite players here will be treated with respect at all times. I also do not expect the same in return.
See quote number three in my sig. :D
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#1- HO = Badform
A: Never HO on 1st merge
B: If not damaged by 1st merge HO allow your opponent the opportunity to redeam herself by realizing you DID
NOT HO at the merge and continue accordingly
C: If you've recieved damage or your female opponent HOd on the 2nd merge then by all means give her the
"money face shot"! After all she is clearly asking for it
#2- VULCH = lame. It is NOT the "sport of kings", it is the "dance of queens"
A: Never vulch
B: Never vulch
C: Never vulch
#3- CHERRYPICK AT THE EDGE OF A BASE= silly tardness.
A: Never cherrypick the edge of a base, see vulching
#4- HORDE
A: Do not join it
B: Always fight against it
#5- COMMIT
A: No matter the odds commit fully to your fight
B: Never "skirt lift, panty soil, scramble to the vert". Commit yourself to the fight
C: Running, If you run please COMMIT to it, DO NOT return to pik someone who just bested you
#6- Never enter a fight that you were not part of in the beginning, unless a friendly is out #d, this includes
squadies! (they never ask for help anyway)
#7- ACK, IF your opponents are giving you room to move then NEVER run to it. IF they are cherryfesting you
Then embrace it, become one with it. It is their silliness that forced the "ack hug"
#8- Become one with "JETRAGE"
#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
#10- Survival is a poor excuse for timidness when there is so much revenge in the hangar :aok
Guidelines that I go by :rock
JUGgler
Obviously Corky these are merely Jug's rules, clearly he did not wish to aggrandize himself or his play style, nor did he wish to express his views about those that would inevitably and repeatedly kill him. :headscratch:
C'mon. You can support the play style, I have nothing against that. Passive-aggressive arrogance is another matter.
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Obviously Corky these are merely Jug's rules, clearly he did not wish to aggrandize himself or his play style, nor did he wish to express his views about those that would inevitably and repeatedly kill him. :headscratch:
C'mon. You can support the play style, I have nothing against that. Passive-aggressive arrogance is another matter.
That's the tweaking part of it. But it's JUGgler, and he's as full of crap as any of the rest of us so I choose not to pay attention to that part :)
Gotta remember he's been corrupted a bit in the last few months. A sure sign of that is the 'give in to the jet rage' bit. There was a time he'd not have sunk so low as to get in a jet. I can't help the company he keeps however :)
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I can't help the company he keeps however :)
Muppets <3 Corky
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<Smacks Ardy>
I rest my case Letalis :)
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<Smacks Ardy>
I rest my case Letalis :)
ahh... I'm calling animal services, your abusing cute bunny rabbits, slapping them around and such!
how could you slap this
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ahh... I'm calling animal services, your abusing cute bunny rabbits, slapping them around and such!
how could you slap this
(http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/b/bunny-7781.jpg)
I keep trying to tell everyone that Guppy/CorkyJr is a ruthless tyrant but no one listens to me. I mean no one listens to me anyway so I'm not sure why this should surprise me. :)
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Hold the phone everyone! If you don't play like Jugler wants he is better than you because of the list provided. :old:
Please have a heart and make his cartoon life easier by committing to honor his dickta. You only think it's your 15 bucks. I'm sure he doesn't think he's better than you because he may have observed these heretofore unpublished standards of conduct and you may have not. I'm sure it may be difficult for some of you to muster the cartoon courage necessary to repeatedly spam the same fighter against overwhelming odds. Take consolation in the fact that you have more courage than your opponent and will be able to share that fact with them on 200. Comments like "lame", "lol" and "tard" can be dished out at your leisure with a clear conscience. :rock This method of gaming will also benefit those of you who have a 5-minute attention span and think AH should more closely resemble such outstanding titles as "Blazing Angels" :huh If you happen to be carrying out a base capture, you are to delay said plans to accommodate the gamey fun factor of the one "spawnspammer" who decides he should be allowed kills at that field. Have a heart, winning is for tards. Thank you Jug for your insight. The source of your superiority and happiness are one and the same.
Mr pot meet Mr kettle, why hello Mr kettle :aok
JUGgler
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ahh... I'm calling animal services, your abusing cute bunny rabbits, slapping them around and such!
how could you slap this
(http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/b/bunny-7781.jpg)
You ever had a pet bunny? :)
My wife many years ago when the kids were little got the bright idea to have an actual bunny show up in the house for Easter. Very cute little guy. Of course that wears off in a hurry and despite the cage and being in the basement, there was no way to keep things clean enough and the smell away. I got over cute bunnies a while ago :)
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Easy there slugger...we Pigs have learned to live with one another despite having a difference of opinion on certain matters. ;)
Just shooting back with the shotgun. Don't worry, I saw where you were standing. :D
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You ever had a pet bunny? :)
My wife many years ago when the kids were little got the bright idea to have an actual bunny show up in the house for Easter. Very cute little guy. Of course that wears off in a hurry and despite the cage and being in the basement, there was no way to keep things clean enough and the smell away. I got over cute bunnies a while ago :)
No, but I believe you, I had 2 birds and a turtle...
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When I go home tonight, I am going to throw a rolling pin straight up in the air and not move. I'm going to do it over and over until it clonks me on the head.
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No, but I believe you, I had 2 birds and a turtle...
Since I got married and in 27 years of being a parent we've had, a cat, three dogs, 4 ferrets, a bunny, a chicken, turtles, mice, hamsters, two rats, 3 leopard Geckos, an Iguana, fish, frogs, hermit crabs, two love birds (one murdered by the ferrets), an abandoned squirrel, a wounded ground squirrel that my son brought home one day after a hawk dropped it. My wife the nurse stitched it up and it lived, much to my regret. I held my ground on snakes. NO SNAKES!
Now understand I never wanted any pets, as I knew that despite all promises to take care of them and clean up after them by wife and kids, I always ended up with the job. Needless to say I was and remain a sucker for my wife and kids.
It's been two months now that I've finally been pet free since my married daughter took the two dogs with her.
It's been heaven! :)
OK sorry for the detour. Back to Dicta JUGgler
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When I go home tonight, I am going to throw a rolling pin straight up in the air and not move. I'm going to do it over and over until it clonks me on the head.
... but was there an angry leprechaun holding a gun to your head, making you do it, that is the question?
Corky,
are you sure you don't live in a pet store?
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... but was there an angry leprechaun holding a gun to your head, making you do it, that is the question?
Corky,
are you sure you don't live in a pet store?
I have corn in my poop. :banana:
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I have corn in my poop. :banana:
Before or after the rolling pin hit you in the head?
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Jug...conserve your bait man. Smaller pieces catch just as much as dropping chum. :noid
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:lol
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4 pages on from where I left reading it and I just dont have enough beer in me to make sense of it all.
:cheers:
Booze on!
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4 pages on from where I left reading it and I just dont have enough beer in me to make sense of it all.
:cheers:
Booze on!
The most important thing to be taken away from this thread is Sunbat's rolling pin related activities.
Wiley.
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I thought the lesson was that unless he's at a clear advantage, assume JUGgler is going to fight like Midaqua and fire wildly if you go nose on :noid.
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#1 RULE of ACES HIGH
DO NOT FOLLOW ANYONE ELSE'S RULES
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#1 RULE of ACES HIGH
DO NOT FOLLOW ANYONE ELSE'S RULES
That's a great rule. I propose we all don't follow it.
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That's a great rule. I propose we all don't follow it.
But... wait... this is... ...divide by zero...
*head explodes*
Wiley.
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If everyone keeps talking there will be no one left to fight.
rule #1 talk less fight more
Hmmm, ok thats my only rule for now
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If everyone keeps talking there will be no one left to fight.
rule #1 talk less fight more
Hmmm, ok thats my only rule for now
:frown: I'm not following that rule when SHawk's :uhoh on or on Friday or Saturdays. Sorry. :bolt:
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:frown: I'm not following that rule when SHawk's :uhoh on or on Friday or Saturdays. Sorry. :bolt:
lol you couldn't even if you tried. you obviously don't have an off-switch. whats even more obvious is your desire to be a supertroll. im sure you really do want to become a better player, but my God, how do you fly toon planes and manage to type NONSTOP??
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#1 RULE of ACES HIGH
DO NOT FOLLOW ANYONE ELSE'S RULES
I thought the #1 rule was red high heels only. I'm confused now.
semp
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:frown: I'm not following that rule when SHawk's :uhoh on or on Friday or Saturdays. Sorry. :bolt:
It doesn't matter I squelch you as soon as I get on
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lol you couldn't even if you tried. you obviously don't have an off-switch. whats even more obvious is your desire to be a supertroll. im sure you really do want to become a better player, but my God, how do you fly toon planes and manage to type NONSTOP??
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
:noid twilight zone
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how long can a dead thread keep going?
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rule #1 talk less fight more
To the point, and quite right. :aok
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He lost me at the title "Dicta JUGler AH2".
One dicta for fighting in aircraft whether they be cartoon or real is enough for the world for all time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicta_Boelcke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicta_Boelcke)
1. Try to secure the upper hand before attacking. If possible, keep the sun behind you.
2. Always continue with an attack you have begun.
3. Open fire only at close range, and then only when the opponent is squarely in your sights.
4. You should always try to keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses.
5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind.
6. If your opponent dives on you, do not try to get around his attack, but fly to meet it.
7. When over the enemy's lines, always remember your own line of retreat.
8. Tip for Squadrons: In principle, it is better to attack in groups of four or six. Avoid two aircraft attacking the same opponent.
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He lost me at the title "Dicta JUGler AH2".
One dicta for fighting in aircraft whether they be cartoon or real is enough for the world for all time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicta_Boelcke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicta_Boelcke)
1. Try to secure the upper hand before attacking. If possible, keep the sun behind you.
2. Always continue with an attack you have begun.
3. Open fire only at close range, and then only when the opponent is squarely in your sights.
4. You should always try to keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses.
5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind.
6. If your opponent dives on you, do not try to get around his attack, but fly to meet it.
7. When over the enemy's lines, always remember your own line of retreat.
8. Tip for Squadrons: In principle, it is better to attack in groups of four or six. Avoid two aircraft attacking the same opponent.
Well, the difference being one is like this-> :rock and the other being like this-> :uhoh respectively
I will add refering to the GAME AH2, most of the sheeple disregard #2, #5, and #8 while fully embracing#1 and #7
Then again this IS war and lives are at stake!
:aok
JUGgler
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I agree, good llist. Now if we could get EVERYONE to agree and actually follow through with not behaving like the south end of a horse going north, this sim/game community would be a much better place. :)
:aok :aok :aok
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:aok :aok :aok
:uhoh
:huh :devil :headscratch:
:bolt:
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Then again this IS war and lives are at stake!
MMMMM.... Steak!
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Just shooting back with the shotgun. Don't worry, I saw where you were standing. :D
I have two holes in my pants-legs...that was a bit close... :rofl
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He lost me at the title "Dicta JUGler AH2".
One dicta for fighting in aircraft whether they be cartoon or real is enough for the world for all time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicta_Boelcke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicta_Boelcke)
1. Try to secure the upper hand before attacking. If possible, keep the sun behind you.
2. Always continue with an attack you have begun.
3. Open fire only at close range, and then only when the opponent is squarely in your sights.
4. You should always try to keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses.
5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind.
6. If your opponent dives on you, do not try to get around his attack, but fly to meet it.
7. When over the enemy's lines, always remember your own line of retreat.
8. Tip for Squadrons: In principle, it is better to attack in groups of four or six. Avoid two aircraft attacking the same opponent.
And sadly he died forgetting his rule #8 and poor collision modeling in WW1.
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how long can a dead thread keep going?
As long as the tiny penii will perpetuate it.
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As long as the tiny penii will perpetuate it.
Isn't a melvin when panties are all bunched up in a vag?
JUGgler
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Well, the difference being one is like this-> :rock and the other being like this-> :uhoh respectively
I will add refering to the GAME AH2, most of the sheeple disregard #2, #5, and #8 while fully embracing#1 and #7
Then again this IS war and lives are at steak!
:aok
JUGgler
I fixed it Crazy :aok
JUGgler
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Isn't a melvin when panties are all bunched up in a vag?
JUGgler
Isn't a JUGgler a clown that couldn't fill the big shoes?
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I fixed it Crazy :aok
JUGgler
I love steak
(http://www.godine.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/steak.jpg)
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#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
:salute
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But when he came down from the mountain didnt the people tell him to "bugger off were going to do what we want anyways"?
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/mose.jpg)
#1- HO = Badform
A: Never HO on 1st merge
B: If not damaged by 1st merge HO allow your opponent the opportunity to redeam herself by realizing you DID
NOT HO at the merge and continue accordingly
C: If you've recieved damage or your female opponent HOd on the 2nd merge then by all means give her the
"money face shot"! After all she is clearly asking for it
#2- VULCH = lame. It is NOT the "sport of kings", it is the "dance of queens"
A: Never vulch
B: Never vulch
C: Never vulch
#3- CHERRYPICK AT THE EDGE OF A BASE= silly tardness.
A: Never cherrypick the edge of a base, see vulching
#4- HORDE
A: Do not join it
B: Always fight against it
#5- COMMIT
A: No matter the odds commit fully to your fight
B: Never "skirt lift, panty soil, scramble to the vert". Commit yourself to the fight
C: Running, If you run please COMMIT to it, DO NOT return to pik someone who just bested you
#6- Never enter a fight that you were not part of in the beginning, unless a friendly is out #d, this includes
squadies! (they never ask for help anyway)
#7- ACK, IF your opponents are giving you room to move then NEVER run to it. IF they are cherryfesting you
Then embrace it, become one with it. It is their silliness that forced the "ack hug"
#8- Become one with "JETRAGE"
#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
#10- Survival is a poor excuse for timidness when there is so much revenge in the hangar :aok
Guidelines that I go by :rock
JUGgler
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"#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay"
Define "shabby" and who :huh decides? :bhead
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made me laugh
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dunno bout you but i'll keep to being chivalrous outside of a video game and i'll kill anything that passes my gunsight in here :aok
by the way i have HO'd vulched and picked... didn't know that killing a baddie was bad :headscratch:
but if i am in a head on i try and roll out of it it's too chancy to play chicken with someone who gets a 50% chance to kill you it's my last resort to shoot in a HO due to this. :aok
but if i'm vulching it's usually when a base capture is in progress :aok
but if im picking... well it's usually because i want the guy dead and not killing allies :aok
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Bar, its a huge difference between picking and picking.
In a many vs many furball, theres no other way to get a kill without getting killed. Engage-disengage, teamwork, technically its a pick but noone will ever throw rocks on ya for this.
But theres an other way. Once i was over the tank-town in my g-6, off hours time, only a couple guys on. I had some 1v1s and 2v1s with the bish folks, was pretty much fun, until i almost got bingo fuel. I killed that niki and headed to rtb. There was an la-5 almost over my field, i still had about 30 rounds and 5 mins of fuel, i decided to engage. The La-pilot was very good, he could keep up with my empty g-6 for about 3 mins. Right when i was about to finish him (i could get right on his six, was trying to set up a sure shot) a niki was coming. I only had time to turn around not to show him my tail, he dived in with blazing guns from 1k and got me. He was that one i downed right before. I cant remember who was it, i dont even want to. But that guy was coming one and a half sector only to pick me, this caught me.
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:noid
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let the thread die reaper, not use in bringing it back again.
semp
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havent read the entire thread but could buy into all but 5-B,C
If your opponent is in a plane and the strength differences are his turning ability vs your climbing ability. You would have to be a fool to not use your advantage to negate his. Just as he would be a fool not to use his advantage to negate yours.
In likewise situation if your advantage is speed over his turning ability after a few turns its is equally foolish to continue to play "his" game to your disadvantage. Never assume that one who has run away, has "left the fight". If they come back and nail you. Blame yourself for your own poor SA.
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let the thread die reaper, not use in bringing it back again.
Sorry, just had to laugh a bit after running into a horde of muppets off TT island last night, including Mr. Dicta, cherrypicking on the edge of the airfield, ganging 3-4v1 every engagement, picking relentlessly, and in Sunbat's case HOing repeatedly in the K4, even when they outnumbered us by a big margin.
Was worth a laugh re-reading the list in the original post. Pure comedy! :rofl
<S> Muppets!
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Sorry, just had to laugh a bit after running into a horde of muppets off TT island last night, including Mr. Dicta, cherrypicking on the edge of the airfield, ganging 3-4v1 every engagement, picking relentlessly, and in Sunbat's case HOing repeatedly in the K4, even when they outnumbered us by a big margin.
Was worth a laugh re-reading the list in the original post. Pure comedy! :rofl
<S> Muppets!
seen this coming a mile away. i can still hear the echo of your crying from last night.
horde of muppets off TT island last night,
lol there were 6 of us online last night. a horde to some, i suppose
TT IS one giant horde, and if i recall, you were fighting from the high numbers side. DOH! i gotta ask, does JUG really get under your skin that much?
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seen this coming a mile away. i can still hear the echo of your crying from last night.
:rofl :rofl :rofl Cupcakes, me laughing and calling out someone on 200 for doing the opposite of their publicly stated "dicta" isn't exactly crying!
FWIW, I just thought it funny, that's all. I know the Fewbs and the vMUPPETS have had their "differences" in the past, that's why I kept throwing that "comparison" bait out there. Just trying to get a reaction from you all! :lol
Like I said, <S> Muppets, was fun! If I wasn't sooooo soooo plastered at the time, I might could have fought a little better against that swarm of ya!
lol there were 6 of us online last night. a horde to some, i suppose
TT IS one giant horde, and if i recall, you were fighting from the high numbers side.
There may have been only 6 muppets, but there were 10+ bish at one point, hovering high off the edge of our field, and by my count 3 knights upping, maybe 4. The "high number side" doesn't mean squat..... there could be 400 knits on but if only 3 of them are upping at that base vs 3 times that many high cons, it's a gang.
DOH! i gotta ask, does JUG really get under your skin that much?
Nah, I actually rather like JUGgler and have had fun fighting him and getting waxed by him in the past. I just thought his "departure" from his normal style a little comical, since he went to the trouble to come here and spell out so clearly what he doesn't believe in.
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1st. I HATE Jug. Can't stand the way he always beats me in that fn dump truck of his. You 2 LilMak, and ditto to Bruv.
2nd. In regards to the picking/vulching thing. Couple of weeks back on the grinider map I was over 41 in a big furball, and decided to swoop down on the runway for the hell of it. I blew down the runway at something like 450 evading the fully up field ack, and did infact blast some poor soul who happened to up right in front of my guns. Good sport since the odds of getting in and out of that situation in one piece are not good. Lo and behold sometime later.. like 30 min or so I get chided by a well know AH vet for my effort. I found it halirous in that this particular score potato's favorite tactic is to squat above a capped base and pick off poor hapless souls as they clear the base ack, and struggle for alt. Is that not the pot calling the kettle black or what?
3. I do sometimes HO. Its a cross I bear.. I mean when some guy bore sights me from 2k (points his nose directly at me for you non-technical guys) I'm thinking "why are you pointing at me? Don't you know who the ^%#& I am?????" Most times I will avoid and duel, as I think that anyone who tried to HO is meat on the table in a fight. But sometimes I do give in to temptation.
4. I don't mind a 2v1 at all. It's a great challenge. Yesterday I fought great 3v1: 110,39 and yak v my LA. Ended up down, but only after a couple of minutes and putting rounds into all 3 of them. (still don't know how that 39 didn't go down)
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:rofl :rofl :rofl Cupcakes, me laughing and calling out someone on 200 for doing the opposite of their publicly stated "dicta" isn't exactly crying!
FWIW, I just thought it funny, that's all. I know the Fewbs and the vMUPPETS have had their "differences" in the past, that's why I kept throwing that "comparison" bait out there. Just trying to get a reaction from you all! :lol
Like I said, <S> Muppets, was fun! If I wasn't sooooo soooo plastered at the time, I might could have fought a little better against that swarm of ya!
There may have been only 6 muppets, but there were 10+ bish at one point, hovering high off the edge of our field, and by my count 3 knights upping, maybe 4. The "high number side" doesn't mean squat..... there could be 400 knits on but if only 3 of them are upping at that base vs 3 times that many high cons, it's a gang.
Nah, I actually rather like JUGgler and have had fun fighting him and getting waxed by him in the past. I just thought his "departure" from his normal style a little comical, since he went to the trouble to come here and spell out so clearly what he doesn't believe in.
:aok good enough for me. i just had to make sure my 2 cents had been thrown in
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You ever had a pet bunny? :)
Taste Like chicken.
... but was there an angry leprechaun holding a gun to your head, making you do it, that is the question?
SF is not a shill any more. but Better keep bail money just in case though and hide the butter.
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Hoing, Vulching, Running to Ack, Picking, hording.
It’s all like masturbation really.
Everyone you talk to denies doing it……..yet……..everyone is guilty of making love with their one true love at some stage or other.
Honesty is good for the soul….and your credibility
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Hoing, Vulching, Running to Ack, Picking, hording.
It’s all like masturbation really.
Everyone you talk to denies doing it……..yet……..everyone is guilty of making love with their one true love at some stage or other.
Honesty is good for the soul….and your credibility
Studies show it reduces the risk of prostate cancer. :aok
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Guidelines that I go by :rock
JUGgler
As I said in my original post, and as it was said on pirates of the caribbean "they are more like guidelines than actual rules" :aok
I do try to follow this Dicta, and there aren't too many folks if any that could argue that fact. Now there are folks like midway who will take a single incident out of context and hop on the HYPOCRACY train but we all know she is very irrelivent.
I enjoy fighting you too Reaper90 and have no ill will towards you. I'll add in "THE GREAT BOOK OF PICK AND CHERRY" Your name preceeds mine by a very large margin! Please do not get in the same 'shortbus" as midway, there is very little freedom in there!
:salute :salute
JUGgler
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As I said in my original post, and as it was said on pirates of the carabian "they are more like guidlines than actual rules" :aok
I do try to follow this Dicta, and there aren't too many folks if any that could argue that fact. Now there are folks like midway who will take a single incident out of context and hop on the HYPOCRACY train but we all know she is very irrelivent.
I enjoy fighting you too Reaper90 and have no ill will towards you. I'll add in "THE GREAT BOOK OF PICK AND CHERRY" Your name preceeds mine by a very large margin! Please do not get in the same 'shortbus" as midway, there is very little freedom in there!
:salute :salute
JUGgler
:huh Out of context?? You HO'ed me pure and simple... no special context, no excuses. You HOer, you! :uhoh
Once the dirty deed is done, virginity gone. :frown:
:old: :cry Shame for the HOing.
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I do try to follow this Dicta, and there aren't too many folks if any that could argue that fact. Now there are folks like midway who will take a single incident out of context and hop on the HYPOCRACY train but we all know she is very irrelivent.
*sigh* This is my fault for reading the thread... I'm going to hate myself for doing this... but I simply cannot... stop...
#9- Never berate noobs for shabby gameplay, Always berate vets for shabby gameplay
:aok
Wiley.
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Midway mute button please.
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I enjoy fighting you too Reaper90 and have no ill will towards you. I'll add in "THE GREAT BOOK OF PICK AND CHERRY" Your name preceeds mine by a very large margin! Please do not get in the same 'shortbus" as midway, there is very little freedom in there!
:salute and :cheers: JUG, and I'll add a ;) when I say yes, I've "picked a'plenty" but then again I never came to the bbs and said that to do so was against my "dick-ta." :)
And I'm a firm believer in "don't interrupt a fight" unless you're called in, so my picking is rarely random or without cause. :D
And don't worry, I am the anti-MidAqua. If you pooled together all the dead brain cells I've pizzed out after many a hard night drinking over the last 20 years into one stinking heap and re-animated it with fire, it would still out-think that pitiful half-wit oxygen thief. :x
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:salute and :cheers: JUG, and I'll add a ;) when I say yes, I've "picked a'plenty" but then again I never came to the bbs and said that to do so was against my "dick-ta." :)
And I'm a firm believer in "don't interrupt a fight" unless you're called in, so my picking is rarely random or without cause. :D
And don't worry, I am the anti-MidAqua. If you pooled together all the dead brain cells I've pizzed out after many a hard night drinking over the last 20 years into one stinking heap and re-animated it with fire, it would still out-think that pitiful half-wit oxygen thief. :x
:rofl
:aok on creativity.
:lol
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If you pooled together all the dead brain cells I've pizzed out after many a hard night drinking over the last 20 years into one stinking heap and re-animated it with fire, it would still out-think that pitiful half-wit oxygen thief.
:rofl
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I like that list, the only time I'm timid is if I am out of ammo, low on fuel or if I have a decent number of kills and don't want to push my luck.
As per the list I would like to add one of my own,
Don't attack a landing plane of any kind. It's a cheap move and it means you are affraid of a fair fight.
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Nice Dicta Juggler. Shame about 50% of the squad you roll with don't follow it.
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Nice Dicta Juggler. Shame about 50% of the squad you roll with don't follow it.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/093/983/NOT-SURE-IF-TROLL-OR-JUST-VERY-STUPID.jpg?1295395409)
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3. I do sometimes HO. Its a cross I bear.. I mean when some guy bore sights me from 2k (points his nose directly at me for you non-technical guys) I'm thinking "why are you pointing at me? Don't you know who the ^%#& I am?????" Most times I will avoid and duel, as I think that anyone who tried to HO is meat on the table in a fight. But sometimes I do give in to temptation.
Funny I have never seen you NOT Ho period, this is the same garbage Midway spews before he Ho's you into next week, even if you are the first to dive on a merge.
Get real, the day I don't see you Ho is the day I quit aces high.