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Title: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: bangsbox on September 22, 2014, 02:27:24 PM
Can you kill a PT with a torp? I always wanted to know and have tried a few times but it is extremely difficult.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: BowHTR on September 22, 2014, 02:36:21 PM
I dont think you can. I may be wrong though. I dont think a PT sits low enough in the water to be hit by a torp.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: glzsqd on September 22, 2014, 02:41:07 PM
Yes. You can.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: LilMak on September 22, 2014, 04:16:08 PM
Good to know. BYW, you can have a collision with another bailed pilot.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 22, 2014, 09:16:08 PM
Can you kill a PT with a torp? I always wanted to know and have tried a few times but it is extremely difficult.
personally I cant kill anything with a  torp either from pt or from an a/c. I remember someone held a clinic but was unable o make it. Any tips would be appreciated. :aok
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Traveler on September 22, 2014, 10:26:00 PM
Yes, or at least we used to be able to kill PT's with torps.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Volron on September 23, 2014, 12:06:21 AM
Quickest way to find out is the have someone tag along with ya to the EWA.  One ups a PT, the other ups a B5N. :)
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 23, 2014, 03:22:49 AM
personally I cant kill anything with a  torp either from pt or from an a/c. I remember someone held a clinic but was unable o make it. Any tips would be appreciated. :aok

You need a huge lead with the torps, thats probably the problem. And if you drop the torps from a plane you need to slow down to almost stall speed and hug the water, otherwise the torps just splash to the bottom. Basically if anyone is in a 5" you're dead before you're close enough to release.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 23, 2014, 05:02:11 AM
You need a huge lead with the torps, thats probably the problem. And if you drop the torps from a plane you need to slow down to almost stall speed and hug the water, otherwise the torps just splash to the bottom. Basically if anyone is in a 5" you're dead before you're close enough to release.
YEha I just have no idea what the aiming points are lol.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: BowHTR on September 23, 2014, 06:40:13 AM
You need a huge lead with the torps, thats probably the problem. And if you drop the torps from a plane you need to slow down to almost stall speed and hug the water, otherwise the torps just splash to the bottom. Basically if anyone is in a 5" you're dead before you're close enough to release.

Below 200ft agl and under 200mph.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Scca on September 23, 2014, 07:13:03 AM
personally I cant kill anything with a  torp either from pt or from an a/c. I remember someone held a clinic but was unable o make it. Any tips would be appreciated. :aok
The googles found this http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/aces_high/torpedoBombing/torpedoDrop.htm (http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/aces_high/torpedoBombing/torpedoDrop.htm) and this http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/torpedoes/torpedoes.htm (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/torpedoes/torpedoes.htm)
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Max on September 23, 2014, 08:12:14 AM
Below 200ft agl and under 200mph.

250 mph for American planes.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Volron on September 23, 2014, 08:35:51 AM
The thing with AH is you don't need to worry at all about how far you drop your torps.  Providing you live through the auto-ack (and of course NO ONE is in any of them), you can almost drop them onto the ships and they will detonate when they hit.  For me, thanks to Aces of the Pacific, I drop them from a bit of distance a majority of the time.  Once in a blue moon I'll scoot to almost point blank range.  It's a guaranteed hit when you do that.  Even if someone spots and tries to evade, you will hit.  I have sunk a couple of CV's by almost literally flying into them before dropping my torpedo.  Don't know how I managed to get through what was left of the auto-ack, but I did. :)  Kate's are not known to take hits too well. :lol
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: icepac on September 23, 2014, 08:53:45 AM
Never successfully torped a ship from a plane have scored 60 CV's down in a tour with PT boat.

The key is your position relative to the CV group's direction and how many other friendlies are around.

With too many friendlies, the cv will turn as a friendly spends himself against the hull in a poorly planned attack and your newly launched torps miss the boats.

Since torps run about the same speed as a CV group, you have to be positioned almost directly in front of a cv coming toward you.

If you see me on, ask about torping from a PT boat and I will demonstrate the technique.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 23, 2014, 01:36:13 PM
Never successfully torped a ship from a plane have scored 60 CV's down in a tour with PT boat.

The key is your position relative to the CV group's direction and how many other friendlies are around.

With too many friendlies, the cv will turn as a friendly spends himself against the hull in a poorly planned attack and your newly launched torps miss the boats.

Since torps run about the same speed as a CV group, you have to be positioned almost directly in front of a cv coming toward you.

If you see me on, ask about torping from a PT boat and I will demonstrate the technique.

You need to get lucky to have no manned 5" at the time of attack. Otherwise you're pretty much toast.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: redcatcherb412 on September 23, 2014, 01:41:42 PM
I have launched all 4 torps then criscrossed in front of and over the torps visible in the water with nothing happening.  I know I know, but I was bored at the time and you can't land a PT anyway.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Scca on September 23, 2014, 01:51:08 PM
you can't land a PT anyway.
Yes you can, and it's easier now with the new GV control system. 

You have to be either in a port, or next to the CV group, meaning REAL CLOSE...  All you have to do is hit shift-S and the PT will slow down, and stop completely.  You can tell when you are stopped because speed is zero, and engine goes to idle.  Then end sortie... 

(Notice I said possible, not "easy"..)
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: jeep00 on September 27, 2014, 07:01:30 AM
I know you can hit pt from pt because I was trying to torp a cv group and every time I dropped them another friendly would up and my torps would hit them blowing the torps up.
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Brooke on October 01, 2014, 01:05:37 AM
Putting torps into a CV if there is a 5" is very hard.  You either need to live to get in close enough to hit (which is far from guaranteed and usually you don't survive that far in), or you need to drop from way out and have very lucky aim (or be dead head on with the TG not maneuvering).

Without a 5" gunner (such as in Scenarios and "This Day in WWII" special events), it is quite possible.

(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201406_PacificWar/pics/frame3/006c-lineUp-SNAG-0002.jpg)

(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201406_PacificWar/pics/frame3/006d-hit-SNAG-0005.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Rob52240 on October 01, 2014, 07:17:45 AM
Yes, or at least we used to be able to kill PT's with torps.

I've done it many times but only under two condition.
1.  With a large mission of Ju88 formations
2.  Deack the carrier first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ukiVb0VxZA&list=UUGJG5MO8EzB5HA4u6Q4QXow
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Mano on October 04, 2014, 10:13:10 AM
I have killed pt boats with torpedos, but rockets are much faster. Torpedos are really slow and if the pt boater driver happens to see it he can easioy avoid it.

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Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Rob52240 on October 04, 2014, 10:31:52 AM
(http://i.giflike.com/cGEadPT.gif)
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Brooke on October 05, 2014, 01:09:50 AM
Cool animated gif, Rob!  :aok
Title: Re: Can you kill a PT with a torp?
Post by: Rob52240 on October 05, 2014, 01:39:34 AM
Thanks, that was myself, redbull, dzz400, reaper, gazoo I think.

We deacked the boat with 190 F's after taking out the support ships.  Couldn't get any uppers so we came back with TBM's.  Still no uppers so Gazoo and DZZ400 landed on the boad, still no uppers so we sunk it.