General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hazmatt on April 20, 2024, 11:02:08 AM
Title: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: hazmatt on April 20, 2024, 11:02:08 AM
Rumor has it that TheStig is considering quitting and part of the reason is supposedly related to the Skyyer thing.
Anybody heard anything about this?
Title: Re: I heard a vicious rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: LilMak on April 20, 2024, 11:12:11 AM
Hope not. I enjoy running into him.
Title: Re: I heard a vicious rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Excaliber on April 20, 2024, 11:15:03 AM
Heard TheStig mention leaving the game. No reason giving at the time. What is the Skyrr thing besides the obvious?
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: mERv on April 20, 2024, 01:45:41 PM
LOLZ
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Banshee7 on April 20, 2024, 02:34:49 PM
rumor has it it's a rumor?
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Lusche on April 20, 2024, 03:18:20 PM
Did this really need yet another thread? :bhead
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Skyyr on April 20, 2024, 03:19:15 PM
I doubt it's due to me. I spent a few hours helping him with 1v1 stuff. It's obvious he's still working on his 1v1 skills and so I try to leave him alone unless he engages a squaddie.
I'm going to blame Judge.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Judge on April 20, 2024, 03:23:18 PM
I doubt it's due to me. I spent a few hours helping him with 1v1 stuff. It's probably because of Judge.
LoL.. Whatever! :bolt:
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: hazmatt on April 20, 2024, 07:48:13 PM
I didn't say it's because of Skyyr. However, I do believe it could be because of that Judge character. You know he's a shady guy supposedly living in South America somewhere under the witness protection program!
I'm just repeating what I heard and asking for clarification. No reason to get all worked up Lusche. :)
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: SuperDud on April 20, 2024, 09:09:51 PM
This board has become 2 groups, of about 5 people each, arguing with each other. And allegedly you're all adults, most of you older adults.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 20, 2024, 09:10:16 PM
I didn't say it's because of Skyyr. However, I do believe it could be because of that Judge character. You know he's a shady guy supposedly living in South America somewhere under the witness protection program!
I'm just repeating what I heard and asking for clarification. No reason to get all worked up Lusche. :)
I think you just have Trollitis. Why don’t you just knock it off
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: waystin2 on April 21, 2024, 09:17:38 AM
I smell smoke. :aok
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: The Fugitive on April 21, 2024, 09:24:18 AM
ACM? (https://www.acm.org/) I understand better AMC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Motors_Corporation). Especially 68-70 Javelins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Javelin), my favorites.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Eagler on April 21, 2024, 10:57:46 AM
ACM? (https://www.acm.org/) I understand better AMC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Motors_Corporation). Especially 68-70 Javelins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Javelin), my favorites.
69 AMC rebel was our 1st car back in 78 when 1st married
It was her grandparents before it was my wife's parents before it was ours..
Eagler
Title: Re: I heard a vicious rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: hazmatt on April 21, 2024, 11:06:43 AM
I doubt it's due to me. I spent a few hours helping him with 1v1 stuff. It's obvious he's still working on his 1v1 skills and so I try to leave him alone unless he engages a squaddie.
I'm going to blame Judge.
You've become a problem
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: scott66 on April 21, 2024, 07:59:09 PM
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Skyyr on April 21, 2024, 08:19:25 PM
Per my discussion with Stig directly, RotBaron is a blatant liar (but anyone who knows him knows that already).
See the chatlog with a conversation directly with Stig.
Before you opened your diseased mouth, RotBaron, it would have been best to know I've spent several hours helping Stig 1v1 and have never had a negative interaction with him. You picked the wrong person to lie about.
Asking if a long time player that I like is quitting is me wanting attention? You're kidding right?
I have sent TheStig a PM and as you see he doesn't post often so he might not have seen it yet so I asked here.
Believe me if I wanted attention I wouldn't get it by asking if a long time player is thinking about quitting.
Ya paint your own picture dude. You seem to like posting things that are negative to the game. You may not want attention, but you like causing negative attention. Like your first post on your return. Its a pattern you created. Shouldn’t blame players for seeing it that way.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Oldman731 on April 21, 2024, 09:36:12 PM
Asking if a long time player that I like is quitting is me wanting attention? You're kidding right?
I don't think he's kidding. I'm with him.
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I have sent TheStig a PM and as you see he doesn't post often so he might not have seen it yet so I asked here.
If TheStig logs into the BBS, he would see the "you have a personal message" notice, which he could read if you sent him a personal message.
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Believe me if I wanted attention I wouldn't get it by asking if a long time player is thinking about quitting.
We don't believe you. It's pretty plain that you are just stirring the flaming dung pot that Violator and Skyyr and their toadies have been swimming in on these boards for weeks now. Couldn't you all just meet at a local zoo, somewhere, and fling turds at each other? Because the screeching has become really tiresome.
- oldman
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Banshee7 on April 21, 2024, 09:53:38 PM
Honestly, what does it even matter to you since you’re not currently in the game?
Because I still have many long time friends here that I get PMs from on a regular bases. Why do you feel the need to push me completely out of the game by pushing me off the boards too? There's a chance that I'd come back to play with some long time buddies but not much of a chance if you push me off the board and I no longer get PMs or communicate with them in ways related to the game.
I know you may find it shocking but I have helped more then one returning player get up and running via these forums even thought I was not currently "in" the game.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: haggerty on April 22, 2024, 01:14:22 AM
The first time I ran into TheStig I had 10 kills going and decided to help out a squaddie in trouble before RTB, he got both of us.... I love all my matches with him.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Banshee7 on April 22, 2024, 08:26:32 AM
Because I still have many long time friends here that I get PMs from on a regular bases. Why do you feel the need to push me completely out of the game by pushing me off the boards too? There's a chance that I'd come back to play with some long time buddies but not much of a chance if you push me off the board and I no longer get PMs or communicate with them in ways related to the game.
I know you may find it shocking but I have helped more then one returning player get up and running via these forums even thought I was not currently "in" the game.
No one is pushing you away from anything. As a matter of fact, I welcome you back to the MAs. However, if this was the true intention of your post, there are a plethora of ways you could have worded it. Instead, you chose to include other names and possible causes like some teenager stirring up drama on social media.
Since, I'm an educator, I took the time to properly model an example for you below:
Title: TheStig
"Hey guys, has anyone heard from TheStig lately? I've sent him a PM, but he has not replied. If you run into him , could you ask him to check the forums for my message?"
Can you spot the difference between this example and your post?
<S>
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Max on April 22, 2024, 09:13:48 AM
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: hazmatt on April 22, 2024, 09:59:52 AM
Contrats! You guys win. I'll stop reading and responding on the forums. Go find somebody else to run off :)
It seems to me that you guys would welcome participation either on the forums or the game that would help keep it alive. To me seeing active content on the forum about squad rivalries and such would make it appear to me that a game still had something going on. Concern that a long time player might be hanging up his hat would should me that there was community. However it seems pretty obvious that the "word police" are more interested in telling me "what" I can say and "how" I should say things.
I was on the fence about signing back up to goof around with the "hunting Skyyr" thing that I had proposed. I thought it might be fun. I found it fascinating that people appeared to get butthurt over "hunting Skyyr" even though Skyyr wasn't upset about it. (I know this for a fact because I PMed him about it)
Send me a PM if you want to get a hold of me as after today reading and responding to posts today, I plan on taking an extended, break from the forums as well as the game.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: waystin2 on April 22, 2024, 11:25:41 AM
Contrats! You guys win. I'll stop reading and responding on the forums. Go find somebody else to run off :)
It seems to me that you guys would welcome participation either on the forums or the game that would help keep it alive. To me seeing active content on the forum about squad rivalries and such would make it appear to me that a game still had something going on. Concern that a long time player might be hanging up his hat would should me that there was community. However it seems pretty obvious that the "word police" are more interested in telling me "what" I can say and "how" I should say things.
I was on the fence about signing back up to goof around with the "hunting Skyyr" thing that I had proposed. I thought it might be fun. I found it fascinating that people appeared to get butthurt over "hunting Skyyr" even though Skyyr wasn't upset about it. (I know this for a fact because I PMed him about it)
Send me a PM if you want to get a hold of me as after today reading and responding to posts today, I plan on taking an extended, break from the forums as well as the game.
You first post Way brought to the front, because he’s another former player crapping on the bbs. He’s just another DipTrip former player fan/gang. Doing their best to discourage players. He Moved POTW to a kiddy game.
No one ran you off. Posting about other games helps us zero. Drama helps us zero.
Btw, DCS has severe money problems, careful where you invest. IL-2 also has team issues, they lost a main programmer to that self made Combat sim. Time will catch up. DipTrips needs you to save his investment in DCS. He still selling it knowing they hang on a thread. He doesn’t want you to know that part anymore than he wants to talk prices, both would defeat his effort to skim players with bad info. 9 mos behind on payroll is a huge deal. Shhhhh don’t talk about that.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 22, 2024, 11:37:25 AM
IL-2 also has team issues, they lost a main programmer to that self made Combat sim. Time will catch up.
Jason left quite some time ago. After latest update at IL-2, it's running smooth as silk in my ancient mill with ultra graphics and almost all the annoying bugs are gone. Maybe time is really catching up.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Tumor on April 22, 2024, 09:01:03 PM
Btw, DCS has severe money problems, careful where you invest. IL-2 also has team issues, they lost a main programmer to that self made Combat sim. Time will catch up. DipTrips needs you to save his investment in DCS. He still selling it knowing they hang on a thread. He doesn’t want you to know that part anymore than he wants to talk prices, both would defeat his effort to skim players with bad info. 9 mos behind on payroll is a huge deal. Shhhhh don’t talk about that.
Nothing to do with payroll. It's a legal/contractual matter, as pointed out to you by.... I can't remember. Another thread.
Servers had more this last weekend than I've ever seen.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2024, 02:28:40 PM
Nothing to do with payroll. It's a legal/contractual matter, as pointed out to you by.... I can't remember. Another thread.
Servers had more this last weekend than I've ever seen.
When payment of production is not paid that is payroll for employees. Meaning, despite ED claiming IP issues and payment for use, withholding payment IS in fact withholding payroll. Where do yall think payroll comes from? This means those employees (some who have recently quit) will not be paid for the work they spent a lot of time on for a module(s).
If I send a construction crew out to build a home, and the homeowner doesn't pay ME for the work, then employees won't get their payroll for that work. Not rocket science.
No matter what the issue is between companies, people are not being paid. And ED claims are a bit foggy since they will not let a court decide, they play judge jury and executioner. and tell whatever story they want. In court it would not go that way. In other countries (including this one) we speak of, payment for work is guaranteed. You can't just say "you voided our contract and therefore we decide what happens and what stories will be told. They just pay and the dispute and fines would be a separate cause. This is where ED is screwing themselves silly.
How long would it take another company to get up and running for ED? Now you have time lapse, and during that time lapse bad things WILL start happening, like consumer confidence, no new products to sell YET.
What you have here is a quagmire they both set themselves in. One violates a contract, one denies payment (payroll) for the product they've received. I'm sure in a court you cover the breach as a single topic and the payment as a single topic. ED doesn't have the legal right to decide, and my GUESS, if it did go to court, ED would find themselves in the wrong as much as Rasbam.
The way this was handled by both parties makes it almost impossible to resolve differences. devs have already quit. so even if it's resolved you don't have the skills or manpower you once had. It can only go south.
Despite some's understanding (or lack of) of the core issues, many are advising to not pre-purchase, for good reason. The product simply may not come to be. It doesn't matter what others think,.. many of the community are saying "hold on". The community decides what they will or will not spend on or prepay. This issues just spiked that community.
As far as packed servers, makes all the sense, if you view what the vast of the community is saying, they see a demise coming, as do many others,..so they want to get time in before (as they assume) they can't. A packed server is not sales. It's post sales. You can have 1m playing, if they aren't buying everything because they have what they want,.... just do the math. NO revenue is no revenue. A packed server does not represent revenue in their method of payment.
Some are claiming ED simply does not have the cash to take it to court for Rasbam payment of server usage(breach). As mentioned above, if no one is buying because they already have what they want,..I can see that happening. It's a horrible payment method. Keeping it out of court allows ED to do as they please with no oversight. Rasbam should get that into court asap.
HT OTOH, can look at how many subscribe and he has his revenue number instantly for that month. Therefore he can plan. ED cannot plan without prepays. You're paying for a product that doesn't exist yet and TRUSTING ED doesn't drop the ball. If you do not know how sales will go that month,.. well... things start to implode. Ed just dropped the ball.
Point being, no matter the reason, ED deciding to withhold funds and playing judge,.. means nothing is being made. They should have paid and taken the breach to court and the court would return that money in a suit for breach. ED,.as much as Rasbam screwed up,... hurt themselves. Something this deep, may never get resolved, and some who have quit think the same way. They have families to feed. ED does NOT have the right to decide what they are owed,.. they can make up any number rasbam could never meet, which means rasbam would work for free forever. This is nonsense, and ED is going to find out the hard way they are not god over laws. Rasbam may be in the wrong, but ED went further. BOTH companies are in breach on different issues. ED is NOT a court.
IF ED is in the right 100% why are they not suing rasbam for defamation in their public statements? Both are just idiots. If you look at the body language and language ED uses, they come off to me as someone with financial issues. If that wasn't true they would have paid rasbam and then resolved the IP issue...maybe in court. I get a strong impression ED is making up excuses to hide their lack of funds. And a court would find that out, they don't want it in court cuz then the community would know they are in trouble, and that would seriously hurt biz. They want this out of court for reasons.
I've spent 6-8 yrs in and around the court system,.... this one has tells.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2024, 02:39:56 PM
NOT true I did not take Gman's claim and use it, I looked at his claim and did my own deeper research. I don't believe ANYTHING stated on the Intardnet as valid credibility. I look into it myself, so that I do NOT get it wrong.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: AKIron on April 23, 2024, 02:44:05 PM
I don't think he really reads what anyone else says. He reminds me of talking to a flat earther.
Get a life,...If I don't, it's because they have a rep of being WRONG....like YOU. Evidently you just projected yourself on me. You didn't read squat.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2024, 03:03:49 PM
One last point, IF this were to go to court,...Rasbam could have every product it has fingerprints on frozen from sales until the issue is resolved. Another reason ED would not want it in court.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Tumor on April 23, 2024, 03:33:11 PM
If I send a construction crew out to build a home, and the homeowner doesn't pay ME for the work, then employees won't get their payroll for that work. Not rocket science.
Dude... if you own the construction company and send YOUR (contracted) crew out with YOUR equipment to build a house FOR YOU, and said crew runs out with your equipment, and your name, and builds a house for --someone else--, you'd squeak. You might not even pay them for their contracted time.
Nothing foggy about it. It's out there.
And FWIW, hazmatt has a point here, regardless of whether or not he meant it the way it was taken. I dl'd AH for the 100th time not long ago. I very nearly punched the go button. Then I thought about certain riffraff turning the MA into a Toilet.... a messy one. Not to mention a whole lot of the same stupid nonsense I remember from years ago. Nope, I'll wait for Hitech to clean house, at a minimum. Nobody wants to "steal players" from AH. Getting more people in, or back in, would be nothing short of awesome, if not a miracle regarding the dated nature of the game. AH STILL has one thing that pounds the crap out of every single other form of this genre, and that's community, as much as some seek to destroy it. :airplane:
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2024, 04:17:26 PM
Dude... if you own the construction company and send YOUR (contracted) crew out with YOUR equipment to build a house FOR YOU, and said crew runs out with your equipment, and your name, and builds a house for --someone else--, you'd squeak. You might not even pay them for their contracted time.
Nothing foggy about it. It's out there.
And FWIW, hazmatt has a point here, regardless of whether or not he meant it the way it was taken. I dl'd AH for the 100th time not long ago. I very nearly punched the go button. Then I thought about certain riffraff turning the MA into a Toilet.... a messy one. Not to mention a whole lot of the same stupid nonsense I remember from years ago. Nope, I'll wait for Hitech to clean house, at a minimum. Nobody wants to "steal players" from AH. Getting more people in, or back in, would be nothing short of awesome, if not a miracle regarding the dated nature of the game. AH STILL has one thing that pounds the crap out of every single other form of this genre, and that's community, as much as some seek to destroy it. :airplane:
However you view it from your POV,...the crust of the matter IS, if nothing is being made, nothing is being sold. Until it's resolved, no promises on that, that's the sticking point. Doesn't even matter what the details are.
YOU may not want to migrate players, but I am not alone at all in seeing Trips doing exactly that. I mean seriously, bring up DCS 5-6 times in a scenario announcement? there was ZERO (0) need for that unless those were his intentions to get attention from that post he knew everyone would read. That's just one example. YOU may not and a cpl other may not but Trips IS. He's just using you guys as cover and support to continue. he waits until a thread is started so that he can't get blamed for advertising, then jumps in and all we hear about is DCS 50 times. YOU may be innocent, he is absolutely not. No one mentions DCS 1500 times in 100s of post on another game forum without there being intent. I will take this as speaking for yourself. I am NOT alone in despising his tactics. My toilet won't flush,.. well here lets talk about DCS. It's way over the top obsession when these convos are best on DCS forums. How hard is that? HE caused so much SHT with me on my first entry,.. claiming I was a god that was going to fix AH...no claim was ever made,.. so yes,... he's a JO. I just claimed to help where I can,.. he turned into a frantic delusional misfit. My first post,.. read it, back after 14 years,.. my first post he spent a lot of time dehumanizing me. He is getting what he paid for.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: GasTeddy on April 23, 2024, 04:33:18 PM
^ Nobody's here in forum is trying to take guys away from AH, you've got paranoiac in that. Telling and discussing other alternatives is not it. I'm still here, even I have IL-2 in my mill and I just love to tank in there. What is probably driving me away from AH is certainly not this topic or texts written in here.
IL-2 has a dedicated space to discuss other sims and nobody's screaming there about players been stolen away from IL-2. It is a discussion. Discussion about differences between them, technics, tactics, developments etc.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2024, 05:28:36 PM
^ Nobody's here in forum is trying to take guys away from AH, you've got paranoiac in that. Telling and discussing other alternatives is not it. I'm still here, even I have IL-2 in my mill and I just love to tank in there. What is probably driving me away from AH is certainly not this topic or texts written in here.
IL-2 has a dedicated space to discuss other sims and nobody's screaming there about players been stolen away from IL-2. It is a discussion. Discussion about differences between them, technics, tactics, developments etc.
You speak for yourself. You people keep missing a major point, I AM NOT ALONE repeat; I AM NOT ALONE. So we’re all just paranoid about Trips!? NONSENSE.
He reported me in DCS for these words “ I don’t have that problem in Aces High 3”. F’in funny how fast he flipped that table. Afraid someone is doing what he is. He reported it and go me warned sbout me tioning AH. So kets cut the defense crap.
Why do you think they jeep it segregated in IL-2? Just because?
Matter of FACT, Eagler was the one who asked the dcs thread moved to Oclub, not me, because the damage it can cause when we are trying to grow numbers.
You miderates, who still fly AH are not the problem.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: AKIron on April 23, 2024, 05:51:17 PM
Do you see no irony™ in telling someone to speak for themself in one sentence and then in the next claim to be speaking for others?
And no, the earth is not flat. Not even here in Texas.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2024, 06:02:48 PM
Do you see no irony™ in telling someone to speak for themself in one sentence and then in the next claim to be speaking for others?
I speak for the others who stated so. Just because you don’t want to skim, doesn’t mean Trips isn’t. Again, not alone.
Not one single strictly AH players says what dcs players say. They aren’t involved. I give other dcs players very little credibility in his defense, its biased. He’s your buddy. Denial is a helluva drug.
Where are his words? He’s had 1000 chances, he avoids that and pricing. Where are his words? He has a lot to say otherwise. Everyone saw him and dolby as pressing to get the migration from AH crapping all over bbs.
Irony, you guys can’t shut up about how great dcs is, yet deny skimming. Give me a break on this nonsense. Ine example cool, 1500 is BS.
When a non dcs pkay speaks I’ll listen. So far you don’t have that backing.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: AKIron on April 23, 2024, 06:13:29 PM
Aces High does not need a champion. If it did you would not be it.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 23, 2024, 06:19:30 PM
Dudes dealer has that good good crack
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2024, 06:20:21 PM
Looks like have the whole DCS crew, Irony is the keyword again... you have NO support from the other players outside of DCS flakes. Excluding Tumor. Boy you dweebs really outsmarted me boy oh boy I better change my attitude to dcs hugging to fit in low IQ
Can't wait until that wallet ripping scam dies
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Tumor on April 23, 2024, 08:40:20 PM
He reported me in DCS for these words “ I don’t have that problem in Aces High 3”. F’in funny how fast he flipped that table. Afraid someone is doing what he is. He reported it and go me warned sbout me tioning AH. So kets cut the defense crap.
Dude, announcing your battle plans here wasn't your slickest moment in that round. :bolt:
Just sayin
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Dadtallica on April 23, 2024, 10:54:34 PM
For the record… nobody asks Animl to speak.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: GasTeddy on April 24, 2024, 01:16:05 AM
Looks like have the whole DCS crew, Irony is the keyword again... you have NO support from the other players outside of DCS flakes. Excluding Tumor. Boy you dweebs really outsmarted me boy oh boy I better change my attitude to dcs hugging to fit in low IQ
Can't wait until that wallet ripping scam dies
If someone/something drives me away from AH, it's this kind of rant in here and at MA. Like Finnish former president Sauli Niinistö told Putin and Russians: "You ask why did we, after decades of neutrality, join the NATO? Look at the mirror, you did it".
I have told this before and I tell it again: Close the bottle, put joint away. Then, go and look at that mirror, I'm sure you still have one, which is not smashed. This forum is not correct place to vain your anger and mental status on others. There are professionals to help in those cases. Honestly.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 24, 2024, 04:51:56 AM
If someone/something drives me away from AH, it's this kind of rant in here and at MA. Like Finnish former president Sauli Niinistö told Putin and Russians: "You ask why did we, after decades of neutrality, join the NATO? Look at the mirror, you did it".
I have told this before and I tell it again: Close the bottle, put joint away. Then, go and look at that mirror, I'm sure you still have one, which is not smashed. This forum is not correct place to vain your anger and mental status on others. There are professionals to help in those cases. Honestly.
Honestly, you ‘re off base.
Ya know who doesn’t support them besides me? Map& skin makers, CM crews, most current players who don’t play dcs. Ya see any of those in the 88 page dcs thread. You only really have several who contributed, and some of thise were trying to tap it down.
Sick, mental is starting a thread like that in another sim forum. You can only do that in IL-2 and its segregated. Mental is mentioning another game 1500 times in places it doesn’t belong like scenario announcements. Thats mental. Again, to dense as concrete minds, I am NOT aline in being sick of it, I just carry the nads to say something about it to obsessed people. That 88 page dcs infomercial is basically 5 people. HT won’t stop it so they gave up. The rest are so sick of it he’s on almost everyone’s ignore list. You’re projecting.
The undesirables are the ones keeping it alive.
Regardless the issue, ED is in trouble. That is a fact. I didn’t elongate this, the attacks of the dcs crew did. Same as 88 pages of repeats and advertising videos to keep it on top. Dickwood does nothing but bad mouth AH. Why do you think someone eho has not played fir 8 yrs, constantly talking about his game is good intensions for AH?
They want to take reality out on me for elaborating on a fact. They don’t want players to know. Why was this and pricing subjects brought up in that 88 pages? It hurts their goal. Its not stable to invest in.
You’re supporting a sick man. Mental is doing what they do. THE ONLY people I have issues with. If I had issues with everyone that might be on me. Its not that way.
Ya see me ranting about anything else? Bad decisions is hurting us. And we’re tired if putting work into numbers whole crap like that us allowed.
Blame me all you want. I know I’m in the right FOR AH, NOT dcs. Sick is working against the majority.
IF the majority supported that thread, you might be right, its not so.
IF the concept it helps the game to allow it the numbers drop after we built it up LAST SUMMER, would not say the direct opposite.
IF allowing someone back to rampage the masses was a good idea, the numbers woukd not say the direct opposite
The only ones calling me mental are the dcs players doing it. Gee, I’ll take their wird for it. <eye roll>
Point being, facts being over shadowed with nonsense and personal attacks…ED/DCS is in trouble and thst community says so before I ever did. I could stop it here, it won’t stop it there. My reply hinders sales. They elongated this. That community is backing away from ore pay, for good reason.
Me mentioning troubles if snither game in our own forum makes me bad? Is nuts
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 24, 2024, 02:21:07 PM
but you won't because you'll never go back to aces high
and you probably don't have the PC to play it, which is why you have so much hate for it.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: AKIron on April 24, 2024, 02:28:06 PM
No one cares if you point out flaws in DCS Animl. You think you know more about those than we who actually play the game? Really? Making stuff up or going on about something you know nothing about just makes you look silly. No need to make this a we/them contest. Give it a rest.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Meatwad on April 24, 2024, 06:08:51 PM
No one cares if you point out flaws in DCS Animl. You think you know more about those than we who actually play the game? Really? Making stuff up or going on about something you know nothing about just makes you look silly. No need to make this a we/them contest. Give it a rest.
I used the ignore list a long time ago. Some people get way too emotionally upset over the mere mention of DCS or IL2. About like mentioning the T word, it causes people to go into an emotional foaming at the mouth mental state
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: CptTrips on April 24, 2024, 06:13:16 PM
I used the ignore list a long time ago. Some people get way too emotionally upset over the mere mention of DCS or IL2. About like mentioning the T word, it causes people to go into an emotional foaming at the mouth mental state
That's a pity.
I wanted to ask you what square we were on, and if you thought he deserved his own board.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: RotBaron on April 24, 2024, 06:43:57 PM
I used the ignore list a long time ago. Some people get way too emotionally upset over the mere mention of DCS or IL2. About like mentioning the T word, it causes people to go into an emotional foaming at the mouth mental state
Some ppl don’t know they’re on ignore. Others however, actually one in particular is so dense even telling him doesn’t stop attempts.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Meatwad on April 24, 2024, 07:10:33 PM
You would figure after a while when nobody is even commenting on anything they say, they would give up. But then again some live for the attention and when they dont get it, they go mentally insane until someone gives them attention again
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 24, 2024, 09:18:34 PM
Here's a clue
I give a crap. I'm talking to dweebs on the intardnet who act like dweebs on the intardnet.
As far as knowing you're on ignore,.. Trippy should have understood that by now, a LOT of people have him on ignore, mostly from biting my ankles like a child for 6 months with Dolby I can produce the 15 page threads too., and when he couldn't get to me went to into "Sexual Predator" accusations,.. that my friends was frenzy at work. Desperate.
I don't give 3 flying rats butts what you guys fly, I give a crap about Trips sales efforts, and I'm not the only one who is sick to death of it. Mentioning is NOT th same as constant 15-90 pages "mentions". You can't say anything to him without it turning into DCS. It's repugnant. He doesn't carry a high appreciation here. I probably don't either because I'm not afraid to go up against it. My life is not based on what player on the intardnet thinks of me.
I've made my mark,.. I have no interest in making another. I never once said I was a god that would save AH. I said I will help where I can,.. Trips, being the immature pansy that he is started saying that. Take note, he doesn't get many replies in the General and that's why. he cooked himself last year. My friends from the past know me much better and they know what I am not. They KNOW I am not the picture Trippy tried to paint of me. Had no one known me from before it might have worked. I certainly do not care what a player of another game thinks, not one single bit. phffff!
I only have problems with DCS players who are former players and don't even play the game. Learn it, live it, love it.
Because of 6 months of Tripps smart butt half-wit mouth on my ankles about videos, I hope DCS dies. And it's not looking good for a while. Once the comunity takes a spike it's a hard recovery. Hate me all you want, until the world goes flat. Bad people hating me is NOT a bad thing, it's desirable, I will make sure you do.
Tumor and i have history, we may disagree on politics, but we pretty much know how to talk to each other, despite disagreements. Tripps,....not worth my energy to be anything to him. He's so disgusting to me, I want to make sure he hates me. Thats a good thing.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Eagler on April 25, 2024, 07:50:49 AM
I used the ignore list a long time ago. Some people get way too emotionally upset over the mere mention of DCS or IL2. About like mentioning the T word, it causes people to go into an emotional foaming at the mouth mental state
The B word too...
I think there should be a text limit per poster per day
These walls of text hurts my brain lol
Eagler
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: CptTrips on April 25, 2024, 08:20:56 AM
Sig line.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Gman on April 25, 2024, 09:28:23 AM
Animal, you've got me interested now -
Can you provide the name of even one player from Aces High who has claimed to have left this game because he was "skimmed" by a DCS only player. Or even just a DCS player?
I'd like to talk to them because if this is somehow true, Dale should certainly be made aware of it, if he doesn't already know.
Based on the 25 years I've known Dale, I believe, and it's just my opinion based on observation, that HT would instantly ban the talk of other games on these forums, such as other games in the genre have done, if he felt he was losing players to DCS or IL2, even to WT, based on players from those games somehow enticing the AH player(s) to unsub here and spend their $ in the other games. Or maybe I'm wrong, shrug ebloji thing.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: fudgums on April 25, 2024, 11:10:42 AM
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: CptTrips on April 25, 2024, 12:17:11 PM
The problem facing Aces High has nothing to do with "skimming".
Probably near Half the players here, already also play DCS. The other half of players here, probably already also play IL2. There are a percentage of hardcore who have only ever played AH and pledge to only ever play AH, but they are probably a minority and probably are a shrinking cohort.
The problem isn't skimming, it failure to convert new customers. The conversion rate might be below 1% (which is why merely advertising probably would only burn cash).
Sooner or later, players are lost to boredom\burn-out (HT is first to admit this is perfectly expected and normal turnover), or old age and health\ life changes. The problem is, AH is not convincing people who download the trial that it is worth the subscription. That has nothing to do with skimming. The problem is the game, as currently designed is not appealing to the current market expectations. So the natural attrition rate (less than most games actually) is just never replaced with newer\younger players. Thus the skewed\aging demographics and slowly declining numbers.
The problem with AH is lack of new player acquisition, not excessive attrition existing players. The problem is the normal attrition is never being replaced.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Skyyr on April 25, 2024, 12:24:44 PM
There are a percentage of hardcore who have only ever played AH and pledge to only ever play AH, but they are probably a minority and probably are a shrinking cohort.
After hearing players talk about what they think ACM is and their overall lack of ability, I'd genuinely be surprised if this was true, simply because in no other sim are said views held (they're unique to AH).
Additionally, my YouTube channel analytics says that 85% of ~90k views are from men the age of 60. Hitech said that the average AH subscriber was 56 years old, IIRC, and this was 8 years ago or so. These numbers seem to line up. The average sim pilot is 33-35, so it seems relatively apparent that the average AH player is different from most sim players.
From my own observations and data, the average AH pilot is 60 years old, male, from the US or Japan, and plays no other sims. It's probably the AH pilots outside the average age bracket that fly other sims, if I had to take a guess.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Lazerr on April 25, 2024, 12:44:16 PM
After hearing players talk about what they think ACM is and their overall lack of ability, I'd genuinely be surprised if this was true, simply because in no other sim are said views held (they're unique to AH).
Additionally, my YouTube channel analytics says that 85% of ~90k views are from men the age of 60. Hitech said that the average AH subscriber was 56 years old, IIRC, and this was 8 years ago or so. These numbers seem to line up. The average sim pilot is 33-35, so it seems relatively apparent that the average AH player is different from most sim players.
From my own observations and data, the average AH pilot is 60 years old, male, from the US or Japan, and plays no other sims. It's probably the AH pilots outside the average age bracket that fly other sims, if I had to take a guess.
Don't take this question the wrong way.. I enjoy having you here.. it at least puts some life into the game.
But with other sims out there, with larger audiences, and your skill ability.. why do you play this?
Same to your skwad.. you guys are all so awesome, and like other threads state, there is so much better out there.
What keeps you here?
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: CptTrips on April 25, 2024, 12:50:06 PM
After hearing players talk about what they think ACM is and their overall lack of ability, I'd genuinely be surprised if this was true, simply because in no other sim are said views held (they're unique to AH).
Hard to know without an extensive/honest survey. I have just been surprised at how many come up and say something that makes it clear many do play these other games. I just think they fear the cultural taboo of admitting it openly.
I agree that AH is heavily skewed towards 60ish and above. As opposed to a healthier, broader distribution like (see @2:00):
1. It's evidence that AH is just not making the sale to a newer market and it's expectations.
2. It risks brittleness. Things that effect that cohort are effecting the entire population not just a balanced slice. So as the 60+ starting hitting mortality and health problems, it hits the game majority all at the same time. No new Squeakers coming along to plug the gaps.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: flippz on April 25, 2024, 12:53:47 PM
Don't take this question the wrong way.. I enjoy having you here.. it at least puts some life into the game.
But with other sims out there, with larger audiences, and your skill ability.. why do you play this?
Same to your skwad.. you guys are all so awesome, and like other threads state, there is so much better out there.
What keeps you here?
I’m here for the tears of the jokers. I store them in small vessels and use them from time to time to wash my balls off after playing golf and getting stuck in the sand bars (usually whiskey induced).
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Banshee7 on April 25, 2024, 12:54:55 PM
There are a percentage of hardcore who have only ever played AH and pledge to only ever play AH, but they are probably a minority and probably are a shrinking cohort.
That would be me. I've never tried another sim (except for DCS, which lasted all of 30 minutes because I couldn't get the dang plane moving :rofl). However, I have been willing to try others. I just enjoy AH and the nostalgia it brings me.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Lazerr on April 25, 2024, 01:00:50 PM
I’m here for the tears of the jokers. I store them in small vessels and use them from time to time to wash my balls off after playing golf and getting stuck in the sand bars (usually whiskey induced).
:rofl
Totally understand, wish more people fought like you, it could revive the game.
Joker is a pretty cool dude on a side note. But yeah, busting up that group is fun. Usually by the time I log in, most of them are gone.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Skyyr on April 25, 2024, 01:02:24 PM
Don't take this question the wrong way.. I enjoy having you here.. it at least puts some life into the game.
But with other sims out there, with larger audiences, and your skill ability.. why do you play this?
Same to your skwad.. you guys are all so awesome, and like other threads state, there is so much better out there.
What keeps you here?
It's a fair question and a very simple answer: The persistent, single online arena made fights more consistent here than IL2 or DCS. That was the literal SINGLE reason I came here over IL2 originally: the constant Main Arena that was always online and it was the main (or one of two main) server(s). I wanted nonstop action and for that, you need a server where everyone is concentrated. That was the one advantage of AH and so I came here.
Now that numbers have dropped, that no longer holds weight. I've actually been flying IL2 and transitioning to DCS. At least half of our squad will be going to DCS soon.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: LCADolby on April 25, 2024, 01:12:05 PM
DCS is ghey, you know it. :old:
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: CptTrips on April 25, 2024, 01:24:12 PM
That would be me. I've never tried another sim (except for DCS, which lasted all of 30 minutes because I couldn't get the dang plane moving :rofl). However, I have been willing to try others. I just enjoy AH and the nostalgia it brings me.
Nothing wrong with that.
There is a lot that AH does right. A lot other sims could learn from AH, and vice versa.
I think AH has a larger potential market. I think it makes a reasonable compromise between hardcore fidelity and gamey non-sense. Those are conscious design choices. Many want more that gamey WT but may not want the fetish level of DCS. AH is right in the meat of that curve, but is unable to capture the potential for various reasons. That doesn't necessarily mean AH needs to add more engine management.
I think it's complexity is in a good sweet-spot for a wide range of players. It is other issues keeping it from capturing it's market potential, which is probably larger than is what is looking for DCS' level.
Too far down the Sim axis and it can become burdensome to more players who aren't as OCD. Too far down the Gamey axis and it begins to not reward skill. Too gamey and everybody just gets their turn to be lucky. There is not enough there for a skilled player to achieve any edge as a reward for having developed skills.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: AKIron on April 25, 2024, 02:42:23 PM
There is a lot that AH does right. A lot other sims could learn from AH, and visa versa.
I think AH has a larger potential market. I think it makes a reasonable compromise between hardcore fidelity and gamey non-sense. Those are conscious design choices. Many want more that gamey WT but may not want the fetish level of DCS. AH is right in the meat of that curve, but is unable to capture the potential for various reasons. That doesn't necessarily mean AH needs to add more engine management.
I think it's complexity is in a good sweet-spot for a wide range of players. It is other issues keeping it from capturing it's market potential, which is probably larger than is what is looking for DCS' level.
Too far down the Sim axis and it can become burdensome to more players who aren't as OCD. Too far down the Gamey axis and it begins to not reward skill. Too gamey and everybody just gets their turn to be lucky. There is not enough there for a skilled player to achieve any edge as a reward for having developed skills.
I'm gonna take exception to us sim lovers being called OCD.
And it's vice versa. ;P
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: LilMak on April 25, 2024, 02:56:52 PM
Seeing as how inept we all are, why wait? Do us all a solid and just go now. Your squad is welcome to stay though.
Why? So you can brag about being a real pilot when you die ingame, as if none of us are real pilots too? Lmao I still remember the day you tried to use that as a comeback for losing.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Tumor on April 25, 2024, 03:49:42 PM
It's a fair question and a very simple answer: The persistent, single online arena made fights more consistent here than IL2 or DCS. That was the literal SINGLE reason I came here over
Horse crap.
AH is far easier to manipulate with Game-the-Game stupidity... among other "similar" things.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: CptTrips on April 25, 2024, 04:03:09 PM
AH is far easier to manipulate with Game-the-Game stupidity... among other "similar" things.
That's literally the only reason I came here: large scale dogfights in a single arena. You don't get 10 v 10 dogfights in IL2 because the servers are so small. Now, however, even 6 v 6 dogfights are larger than what's in AH most of the time, so it makes sense to move.
And if you think I needed to game the game, lol. I've flown multiple sims at the same level of AH. In fact, AH is probably the sim I'm the least-skilled at.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: AKIron on April 25, 2024, 04:51:24 PM
You don't HAVE to be OCD to love hardcore sim'ing, but it helps. ;)
Speaking of hardcore, it appears radar blind speed is modeled in DCS. At least for the F-18. No way to know how much of the modeling is the environment or the aircraft. PRF matters!
And since you asked;)
Shameless plug.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: GasTeddy on April 25, 2024, 05:33:10 PM
And if you think I needed to game the game, lol. I've flown multiple sims at the same level of AH. In fact, AH is probably the sim I'm the least-skilled at.
You do not seem to have any kind of emotional intelligence, just a mirror where you see Mr. Perfect. Person with normal self esteem and ego, would never declare something like that.
You do not seem to have any kind of emotional intelligence, just a mirror where you see Mr. Perfect. Person with normal self esteem and ego, would never declare something like that.
That's where you're mistaken; I'm not perfect whatsoever. I have many flaws and mistakes, ergo the irony.
That is the underlying theme here: when an admittedly-flawed and clearly imperfect person can routinely succeed and best others who claim to be experts and "skilled" (lol), that's not a sign of the individual's giftedness; it's a sign of the overall lack of skill and ability of others claiming to be good. And that is where everything I post comes from.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: GasTeddy on April 25, 2024, 05:38:25 PM
^ Normal mind would just ignore those claims.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: Skyyr on April 25, 2024, 05:41:38 PM
Why? So you can brag about being a real pilot when you die ingame, as if none of us are real pilots too? Lmao I still remember the day you tried to use that as a comeback for losing.
Yeah…you were probably acting like a condescending, know-it-all, vag and said or implied that I didn’t know anything.
Your know…pretty much exactly like you said about the community in what I quoted.
Funny thing. People who think they they’re better/smarter than everyone usually end up learning extremely hard lessons.
You know…like getting banned for cheating.
Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: LilMak on April 26, 2024, 08:19:51 AM
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Title: Re: I heard a rumor that I hope is untrue.
Post by: uptown on April 29, 2024, 11:04:58 PM
I heard a rumor my wife's 1st cousin quit WW1 cause of the Red Baron. That's what I heard :furious