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In particularly, recently a lot of folks got hot at "Loose Deuce" squad for keeping their 109s high and fast and working as a team in the North Africa map. I admit it was frustrating to encounter, and when I caught one or another of those boys on equal terms, I taught them a flying lesson. And Shane by himself on the deck is more dangerous than the whole squad. BUT, and this is a most important point, I CAN not and WILL not criticize them for using tactics that match EXACTLY with what I've read about the Germans doing in that theater of operations, in what is a HISTORICALLY BASED arena. I advised my countrymen to actually try working as a team themselves, and in a pinch, to tilt the noses of their Spitfires and P-40s up and try to smack the less heavily armed 109s and Macchis on the nose. See my paragraph above on Hoing. Don't get mad, get even.
dhryan...i don't think bnz's was putting your squad down for anything...and as far as i'm concerned, you and your squad are welcome in the ava any time...(even though you talk funny) :D
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And Shane by himself on the deck is more dangerous than the whole squad
well, please focus on yourself, but don't blame others for their teamplay abilities!
now plaese help me with that phrase :
which part? ...you talk funny? :D ya, your english is uh...a little...uh ... :uhoh ...i mean :neener:
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don't get me wrong, I truly admire your squads ability to work well together.. it is a thing of beauty..... but just the same.when nmbers are very low, it would be a most receptive gesture to split up and balance it out until more showed up....
well, we alos split up the LD sometimes, but its just no fun for me shooting you own squadmates down ....i hope you feel better soon...no fun being ill
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Hello all when Fighter Ace ended and Allot of my squad came to AH I was really interested in the AvA room, due to my squad flying mostly in the Historical room in FA and the MA's being like FA's Territorial conquest room. Cheese can attest to that seeing hes and old squaddie. Our squad has a no fight rule against flying against other team mates so good bad or otherwise we will always fly as a squad, if the squad wants to fly GE I will usually not fly because i suck in GE planes so I will go to the Blue room and fly till there done.
The first couple of times in the AvA room flying by myself I had a person tell me that to never ever BnZ him that it was not allowed in the room well me being in a P40 and him in a 109 I will not try and turn fight so I just left. Uneven sides happen and always will if I see that the allies are up in pilots I wont pile on but if its starts out with few or even and the axis side loses players I will not change to their side.
I had another pilot kind of tell me how the "old" AvA pilots flew, dive for the ground and get in a turn fight like dueling with pistols at ten paces, our squad flys with honor but if your going to be a historical room be one if your going to be a dueling room say so, our squad was really thinking about making AvA a high fly room but after reading another post were not sure.
Flame on people I have my asbestos undies on but will happily discuss anything with anybody Salute
Bring your squad fly and fight as you wish. BnZ, turn and burn, fight as a lone wolf or fight as a team. If the guy you killed whines. Tell him to shut up and play dead. No matter what you do or how you fly somebody is going to find something to complain about. Ignore them and enjoy the sim and the arena.exactly
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Our squad has a no fight rule against flying against other team mates so good bad or otherwise we will always fly as a squad
Bring your squad fly and fight as you wish. BnZ, turn and burn, fight as a lone wolf or fight as a team. If the guy you killed whines. Tell him to shut up and play dead. No matter what you do or how you fly somebody is going to find something to complain about. Ignore them and enjoy the sim and the arena.
Chilli,
I don't know what the fuss is all about....
dhyran the LD and myself are just fine , I explained to him a particular event I had ran into and he explained to me his thoughts and we left it at that with no harsh words or name calling or anything.....
yes sir we I think we both ( LD and myself ) adjust when in the arena to fit our needs........ there is no problems or quarrels here
just saying :salute
TC
The first couple of times in the AvA room flying by myself I had a person tell me that to never ever BnZ him that it was not allowed in the room
Bogus, no one should have told you that.
There are some behaviors that will make you less friends than others that is all, and BnZ shouldn't be one of them.
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dhyran! 20th FG Loco Busters vs Loose Deuce in the AvA sometime this upcoming week! ITS ON!!!!! :t
Bogus, no one should have told you that.
There are some behaviors that will make you less friends than others that is all, and BnZ shouldn't be one of them.
I think we are all sometimes guilty of things that others object to.
The other night I was following a bandit and at some point I thought he turned back to engage me and in the melee I found myself with a damaged plane right over their base. I ended up getting killed but heard in a roundabout way that folks were annoyed I was attacking folks who were trying to land.
I was kind of shocked. I sure didn't think I shot at anyone who was landing. I don't know, I guess I was just totally oblivious and not even paying attention to what I was doing.
I trust they will forgive me, for I was being more of an idiot than a bad sportsman.
This past weekend was I tried the AvA arena and really enjoyed it. Years ago, I used to be a regular back in the old Combat Theater? (or whatever it was called) with historical matchups and short range icons. But no icons is even better! I love the close-in fights where you can actually ID the skin of the plane you are fighting, and you have time to really engage and try some ACM without worrying about some Spit or Tempest barrelling into the fight and picking you off.
I have found pilots on both sides to be fair and friendly so far, and plan on spending more time in this arena in the future.
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So when you going to quit goofing off and become a regular again Terry? Besides I think I hear the sound of twin Allisons in next weeks setup... :D
my .02
Bottom line if you don't like what is happening at the time...leave for a while and come back and it will likely have changed. I don't like excessive HOing...it happens, I leave and come back and usually the people and environment have changed. I don't like people that will only BnZ you all day with superior numbers...same solution leave and come back.
Although I am have occasionally been guilty of a whine or two. In general my philosophy above stands. Why piss in the punch...
The scenery changes like the weather here in Nebraska...just make sure you come back since it will likely be nice and sunny when you do :salute
i just yell at my monitor alot. i just have to make sure i'm not pressing any buttons!
He guys, i love smart phones so i can keep up with the topic at hand. Thanks for all the replies i read each post with great intrest. Now let me ask a question for all to ponder, if a squad of 4 to 6 starts taking bases and airfields but are leaving you alone but are getting closer to you field what is your gut reaction 1. Leave till the creatons leave 2. Start a storm of cries and whines 3. Rally your troops hash out a counter attack plan and fight back. Give your answer first then your reason for it and please dont comment on other answers i am just trying to get to know everyone and your opinions.
He guys, i love smart phones so i can keep up with the topic at hand. Thanks for all the replies i read each post with great intrest. Now let me ask a question for all to ponder, if a squad of 4 to 6 starts taking bases and airfields but are leaving you alone but are getting closer to you field what is your gut reaction 1. Leave till the creatons leave 2. Start a storm of cries and whines 3. Rally your troops hash out a counter attack plan and fight back. Give your answer first then your reason for it and please dont comment on other answers i am just trying to get to know everyone and your opinions.
One thing to keep in mind is that winning the war and rolling the map doesn't work well in here and generally just causes the map to pork into an unplayable configuration.
In fact, to make it explicit: You cannot win the war here like you can in the MAs. Taking all the enemy's bases incapacitates the arena until one of us can get in to fix it.
- oldman
Thanks guys for the honest personal answers and the technical answers. I guess I'm still using my FA days as a point of reference, someone mentioned that the AvA is a small map some of the maps in the historical room in FA had 6 to 8 airfields and to "win" the room you had to take all the fields was real hard when you were down to one field to take. If you took the field you won the map and the automation closed the room and set a new map new countries with different trigger % bigger maps, carrier battles etc. I guess i was hoping that AH had something like that, if you wanted action that was the room to play. Thanks for indulging me in my questions. Salute all.
If you took the field you won the map and the automation closed the room and set a new map new countries with different trigger % bigger maps, carrier battles etc.
The reason that doesn't work in AvA is because the win the war reset mechanism is based on the main arena system of having all plane sets enabled for 3 countries and a random rotation of generic maps.
Our set ups are all custom and we don't have the ability to lock the set up to the map to where it will hold during a reset/rotation.
We also wouldn't be able to load an ordered list of maps to reset to, it would all be random.
Be nice if they added that to the AvA though.
AHBolt,
Considering that HTC has stated that this is not a Simulation of WWII, we take it as far as we can to at least be inspired by it. (That in no way means that I think Main arena play is any less valid, and I enjoy the grab and bag land take as much as anyone). WWII battles on the ground and in the air on a daily basis, were give and take, trying to obtain superiority with the tools at hand. Not all efforts were measured by gain in territory.
I believe that if you read the Message of the Day MOTD, when you enter the arena, you will find that there are objectives for each setup. This means that if your squad is willing to play along, they would be involved in winning the war in a different sense. A tight group of 4 or 5 guys in a small arena can have an awesome impact (waiting to hear more about Loose Deuce and 20th LocoBusters). Take a look here at the current write up, and for upcoming events: http://avaarena.webs.com/ (http://avaarena.webs.com/)
The fact that you are raising questions in the proper forum, means that you have an open mind to certain possibilities if they fit into your idea of reason.
If more folks were like that, the world would be a better place and wars would be fought less often.
The fact that you are raising questions in the proper forum, means that you have an open mind to certain possibilities if they fit into your idea of reason.
If more folks were like that, the world would be a better place and wars would be fought less often.
Somebody say something :headscratch:
Somebody say something :headscratch:
TC I hope my point wasn't missed. I am not always on my best behavior either, but bottom line when something you don't like is happening wait a bit and it is likely to change.
Absolutely!
Posted in the wishlist many times.
We could do so some seriously cool things if we had some tools like that.
Especially if we could set different parameters for win the war triggers. (certain number of enemy killed, percentage of strats destroyed, combinations etc)
No booze no film :cheers:
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5YItbzYWW2dKkCErDLdVSMpw_Pp6KoGUP30Ein0EkGHNDgU3mHw) < disclaimer, this is not the award for film contest winner, however it did help in the presentation.
I have tried to deliver some payback before, and on many occasions I was wrong about the ID of the player.
This right here is the best reason to just play and have fun. The way kills are displayed, here is a very common exchange of events:
You [whoever you are] and I are engaged, and I take off your left aileron and give you an oil leak. If I decide to let you go land out of respect for a good fight, I'm done with you and go elsewhere. Someone else sees your busted up bird and follows you back to your base and vulches you on landing. You see "ImADot killed you". The other guy sees "Assist on you". Because I damaged you badly enough first, I'm awarded the kill and you might think I was the one who vulched you.
Now you have a chip on your shoulder and go "Dot hunting" and basically have a crappy rest of the night.
This right here is the best reason to just play and have fun. The way kills are displayed, here is a very common exchange of events:
You [whoever you are] and I are engaged, and I take off your left aileron and give you an oil leak. If I decide to let you go land out of respect for a good fight, I'm done with you and go elsewhere. Someone else sees your busted up bird and follows you back to your base and vulches you on landing. You see "ImADot killed you". The other guy sees "Assist on you". Because I damaged you badly enough first, I'm awarded the kill and you might think I was the one who vulched you.
Now you have a chip on your shoulder and go "Dot hunting" and basically have a crappy rest of the night.
Morning guys, please don't take my last post the wrong way. I wasn't meaning that if X Y or Z happens, I'm going to hunt you or get a chip on my shoulder! It just means expect it and accept it as game play. My life is hard enough without getting bent out of shape over a game. I just fly better and watch my 6 better. Nothing is ever personal with me.
Geez Jaeger, don't turn into a pedantic BBS speeling and punk-chew-ation tuffboi. :D