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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: earl1937 on April 23, 2015, 12:28:01 PM
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:airplane: I have never tuned to chann 200 in the 6 years I have played this game! I heard about almost from the start from other players that I was learning the game from and decided that I did not want any part of it.
I hear players bemoaning the "trash" talk on 200 almost daily now and I am just wondering if it wouldn't benefit the game as a whole to cut out chann 200! Is there some purpose for it that I don't know about?
If a person was so intent on saying something to someone in another country, they could always PM them, that way it would save everyone else listening to their rant or compliant!
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I disagree - you and everyone else has a choice, and hopefully applies some self-discipline.
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If you are new to the game, channel 200 won't affect your initial view on AH, because you don't even know about it. :old:
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I like some of the talk on 200...The political talks get a lot of .report's out of me...not so much as it's the rule(which it is) but most have no clue what they are talking about.
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Channel 200 has to be tuned in to be able to see anything. It is but one of 100 such channels (200-299) and if it is blocked by HTC for whatever reason, any one of the others will take its place. There is definitely a use for cross-country communications, but sadly a few players lack the self control to use it properly.
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Like you Earl I never tune to 200. I did have a fellow rook call out to me on vox that the guy I shot down was slamming me on 200 for not responding to his rant on 200. I bet that guy twice you might say. :rofl
HTC must see it as a money maker or surely they would have dumped 200 a long time ago.
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Been detuned since 2007! :aok
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I'm guessing HTC likes channel 200 because it has the potential to help build a sense of community by allowing players from all the chess pieces to watermelon chat and hopefully be one more thing to keep them coming back. It's a double edged sword though because most of the time it's just a fuss session or guys talking smack to each other, which turns most off.
I almost always have it tuned, but I do have a "silence" tab that I'll click if I'm getting tired of reading the drivel that sometimes is spewed. I'd rather have the option and not use it than not have the option at all.
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I like channel 200 for arranging a good 1v1 with someone outside of the furballs.
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Channel 200 :rofl
I believe it is very funny :)
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Earl, you flew horrific missions in a war to protect peoples right to be stupid on 200 if they chose to :)
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Don't like, don't tune.
Insults aren't fun unless everyone can see the insulter's quick and clever use of wit to vanquish the opponent, who just vanquished them. :airplane:
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The issues with channel 200 are derived for a small number of players. Squelch those and 200 becomes a great place to meet players on the other teams. Many friendship are made over 200 through the years.
Part of training, teach the newbies how to squelch.
I also think there should be a bigger presence of MODs in the arena with a bigger stick. Too often the political crap goes on too long before someone steps in. If a MOD is there to mute people right off sooner or later they will start to get the message that it will not be tolerated. The same goes for the bullying. It's pretty easy to see it happening when it does. If a MOD is on the ball and mutes them right off those getting bullied don't log off and/or rage quit. I don't know how many MODs there are but I don't think there are enough. I can see some friendly banter going back and forth, but some of the stuff you see these days goes way over board.
I know HTC want to "let the people play", but there have to be some limits or your just letting it all turn into a cess pool.
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SkyRock<------owns ch200.
:aok
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The issues with channel 200 are derived for a small number of players. Squelch those and 200 becomes a great place to meet players on the other teams. Many friendship are made over 200 through the years.
This.......I have many friends / entire squads on other countries i like chatting with
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Most of POTW detuned in 2007 when we were in that early AvA war that spanned all of WW2 over 3 months. We discovered it was a great way to learn who the mods were and get muted or kicked out of the arena. The mods gave us a choice and we detuned so we could stay in the war. A small number of us left it tuned over the last 7 years and kept the rest of the pigs entertained with some of the highlights in the MA. I retuned about 6 months ago.
Today it's as tame as a grade school play ground whizzing match. Or an evening listening to lies and whopper fishing stories around the pot bellied stove. Most of the heavy muck slingers and pot stirrers aren't around anymore. Who knows, with AH3, that may change during the inaugural first 6 months. SHawk acts more like a mod now days than the pot stirrer he used to be on 200.
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1/2 the fun of playing the game is listening to 200. you dont have to be part of it if you dont want to.
semp
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inter-country chat is good for the community. it's like the forums.. i wouldn't come to these forums they were country specific.
the game related trash talk is actually a good thing.. the hot political takes are tiresome.
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I like some of the talk on 200...The political talks get a lot of .report's out of me...not so much as it's the rule(which it is) but most have no clue what they are talking about.
I'd wager that the people who disagree with you would say the same thing.
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I wish everyone had to tune 200 for 12hrs of playtime/day.... ; p
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I'm with Earl. 200 is a cesspool for rotten apples. Hence, the barrel degrades.
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ok lets stop something that is not mandatory.... :rolleyes:
squelch the tards and have great convo's with the ones that you respect..... quite simple really.
I used to squelch midway every time I logged on...now its skyyr...next year it will be someone else....
channel 200 is comedy central of Aces High. :aok
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SkyRock<------owns ch200.
:aok
you cant afford to own it,maybe rent,but not own :neener:
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channel 200 is comedy central of Aces High. :aok
^^
That
Whenever I'm really bored I'll log into AH2 and just watch 200. Always something going on 200 that makes for a good laugh. :D
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Have to agree with Bailey and Latrobe here.
200 can be lots of hilarity and also put you in comm with other country members that otherwise you'd never talk to. Made a few buds there.
Keep it as is; detune if you don't like what you see.
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I wish everyone had to tune 200 for 12hrs of playtime/day.... ; p
I get it!
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What is this CH200 you speak of? :huh
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The issues with channel 200 are derived for a small number of players. Squelch those and 200 becomes a great place to meet players on the other teams. Many friendship are made over 200 through the years.
Part of training, teach the newbies how to squelch.
I also think there should be a bigger presence of MODs in the arena with a bigger stick. Too often the political crap goes on too long before someone steps in. If a MOD is there to mute people right off sooner or later they will start to get the message that it will not be tolerated. The same goes for the bullying. It's pretty easy to see it happening when it does. If a MOD is on the ball and mutes them right off those getting bullied don't log off and/or rage quit. I don't know how many MODs there are but I don't think there are enough. I can see some friendly banter going back and forth, but some of the stuff you see these days goes way over board.
I know HTC want to "let the people play", but there have to be some limits or your just letting it all turn into a cess pool.
I feel no compassion whatsoever for anyone that complains about what they see on 200.
As has already been stated. If you are new to the game you wont even know about 200. And there is a reason why.
Thing is 200 was initially created so that people could talk to one another about things other people didnt want to hear. It is why it is not the default cross country channel. The default channel is the one you are supposed to be tuned to if you DIDNT want to see the very things people complain about now. The idea was you had to make a conscious decision to tune 200.
The problem is the very subject people complain most about. Politics.
In the beginning and for the first half of the US existence the west was wild and free. People moved there often to face adventure, dangers and all and to get away from the restrictions imposed on them in the big cities and heavily populated areas. The political structure was simple. You did what you wanted and you either lived or died or went back east.
Then more and more people moved out west. As the west became more popular people started deciding there were things they didnt like to have to deal with. So they brought with them politics which at its base is pretty much all about laws. Politics in action is usually based on what a group likes or doesn't like and what laws can be created to appease the loudest squealing group. Because going back east where it was nice and peaceful and full of laws wasnt something they wanted to do. Though some did. Instead they brought the east with them and insisted the west act more like the east.
Same thing here. 200 was created for people to have a certain degree of freedom about what they talked about. And if you didnt want to see or deal with those things. You simply stayed (back east)on the default channel. Then just like in the old west more and more people showed up and rather then go back east they decided to bring politics and its laws with them and settle the west because there were some things they didnt like. Rather then go back east which is probably where they belong. They instead demanded and got laws.
And here we are.
My feeling is you chose to tune into 200. Nobody has subjected you to anything you didnt choose to be subjected to.
If you dont like what you see on 200. Tune back to default. Its like TV. In you dont like what you see on ABC. do you just leave that channel on and complain or do you tune to a different channel?
"but everyone everyone else is on 200" Ahh everyone wants to be where the crowd is.
How is it you think TV shows are deemed a success or not? By the amount of people who stay tuned in. If it were that terrible. More people would simply tune to default and 200 would go away naturally or at least give it significant competition
I admit. 200 is a train wreck. Thing is people love to watch train wrecks.
And here we are
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In my opinion, most crew are aware of the content and manner of 200. If you don’t like it don’t tune it.
I would like channel 300 where there is no moderation at all. Now that would be something to behold.
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SkyRock<------owns ch200.
:aok
Sure you do rock.....<S>
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In my opinion, most crew are aware of the content and manner of 200. If you don’t like it don’t tune it.
I would like channel 300 where there is no moderation at all. Now that would be something to behold.
i love this idea
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200 rocks..peeps turn themselves over as dweebs by trying to be super cool
It's fun to watch
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Channel 200 is great for misdirection.
It's fun to fly a fighter at 35k over enemy hq, and then type ",salvo 14" and wait for the 163s that usually make one pass and run away because the bomber they expected was a fighter.
If your choice of fighter can dive fast enough, you get the opportunity to get the 163 before he lands.
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I like channel 200 because if I can't find a fight on the map, I'll tell everyone on the map which base I'm going to crush and how much destruction I'll do to their base. This some times causes ppeople to up and go after me, there by starting a fight. Works like a charm on some occassions. :devil
Most of the stuff I don't even read because I'm too busy shooting people down so 200 really is no biggie. Just detune if you can't handle it. :airplane: :joystick:
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I also think there should be a bigger presence of MODs in the arena with a bigger stick.
MOD's suck far worse than anything that could ever be said on 200. It amazes me, given the number of channels and available tools to shut people up that MODs are even considered. Sure some folks DESERVE to be muted, but it should be left up to the community (as in the case of .report), but having some virtual nanny exerting his or her subjective opinion in the form of warning/muting is beyond annoying and totally ridiculous.
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In my opinion, most crew are aware of the content and manner of 200. If you don’t like it don’t tune it.
I would like channel 300 where there is no moderation at all. Now that would be something to behold.
We should call it "Channel X"
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Channel 200 is great for misdirection.
It's fun to fly a fighter at 35k over enemy hq, and then type ",salvo 14" and wait for the 163s that usually make one pass and run away because the bomber they expected was a fighter.
If your choice of fighter can dive fast enough, you get the opportunity to get the 163 before he lands.
:rofl :rofl Sneaky lil bugger aren't ya? :D
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Squelch the griefers and have fun, that's what I do. It doesn't take but a few .squelch's to make it a fun bar to hang out in.
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MOD's suck far worse than anything that could ever be said on 200. It amazes me, given the number of channels and available tools to shut people up that MODs are even considered. Sure some folks DESERVE to be muted, but it should be left up to the community (as in the case of .report), but having some virtual nanny exerting his or her subjective opinion in the form of warning/muting is beyond annoying and totally ridiculous.
I'd bet there are less people who know about the .report than there are that know how to squelch people. Again we are talking about newbie here.
There are clear rules and if with a good set of MODs, if you violate them your either muted or booted. Control those that can't seem to control themselves and make the environment and better place to hang out and we will lose less people.
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I've started moving the whole chat screen off the monitor when in the small mode, then I just click to bring it up full screen, it really improves my Fun factor!
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There are clear rules and if with a good set of MODs.
Indeed, I agree. However, I have never, ~ever~ seen that combination actually happen consistently. HTC might fare better if they added a disclaimer to the subscription process "If you tune to channel 200, you might get your wittle feewings hurted".
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There are clear rules and if with a good set of MODs, if you violate them your either muted or booted. Control those that can't seem to control themselves and make the environment and better place to hang out and we will lose less people.
:aok :salute
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Indeed, I agree. However, I have never, ~ever~ seen that combination actually happen consistently. HTC might fare better if they added a disclaimer to the subscription process "If you tune to channel 200, you might get your wittle feewings hurted".
That is an open season lawsuit sign.
Once you tell someone not to open a door or you will get hurt. They open the door, get hurt, and call a lawyer. It is an admission you knew you had a "Hungry Tiger" behind the door before you put up the sign. The way around it is not to put up a sign and have moderators along with .squelch and .report for all game communication venues.
Then if things were to ever get really out in left field with a customer.
You did have mechanisms in place for the easily offended, and you can agree to shut down the undocumented ch200 and hire more moderators. Then point to the long standing shut down of ch1 because of the epidemic of players uncontrollable breeding of tigers behind that door.
You just make sure your moderators stomp on any conversations about "politics or religion equally" on all known channels. And the rest is just pop culture social smut with a long Internet history of tolerance towards it. In the end, ch200 is forced by this into sounding like an 8th grade boys locker room. A Catch-22 but, this is at heart a boys game of all mental ages.
Oh lawsy your honor, my client didn't know his customers snuk a hungry tiger in behind "That Door". My client strictly disallows hungry tigers behind "ALL" of his doors. And provides the best tools for customers to report hungry tiger sightings. And he has hungry tiger "Moderators" at all doors for the off chance a stray hungry tiger ever snuk behind one of his doors and his customers "wanted to report it".
Your honor let me refer you to William Jefferson Clinton's assertion of "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
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Indeed, I agree. However, I have never, ~ever~ seen that combination actually happen consistently. HTC might fare better if they added a disclaimer to the subscription process "If you tune to channel 200, you might get your wittle feewings hurted".
Agreed, but then again we are only getting the stories second hand by the drama queens that feel the whole world is out to get them.
I think what is happening is that HTC has given the MODs guidelines. These guidelines are on the lite side meaning that HTC wants the "kids to play". So while it seems like some people get away with things, those are maybe let slide as a bending of the rule because they don't push it. On the other hand some people get hammered a bit and some of the is due to repeat offenses and reputation.
I can get off with a warning in my local area for speeding as my last stop/ticket was over 20 years ago, but if someone else who has had a number of tickets, or other issues with the law does the same thing they are more than likely to at least get a ticket.
Unfortunately right now there seems to be a lot of monkey see monkey do and many more people are pushing the limits and the MODs are not acting, giving them the benefit of the doubt. That combined with the lack of full time coverage in the arenas it's easy to see how things can get out of hand.
Having 200 is a benefit to the community as you make more friends, chat and hang out with everyone not just a single team and generally adds to the fun with the antic you get, but when it goes over the line and pushes players away then something has to be done.
Lets say you go to a bar night after night and have a good time. Soon a group of obnoxious people start coming in and are loud, bullying everyone and just plain being annoying. How long would you continue to go to that bar? Would you think the bar owner would like a bunch of people that keep coming back and having fun, or a a group of loud mouths who chased away the bigger crowd who was having fun? I know which group Id like to keep in my place :aok
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Can someone tell me why someone would complain about 200 that never tunes to it? :headscratch:
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Earl is of the tail end of the greatest generation baby pool. So he probably would not admit tuning to it once because of how it may have shown the regulars, maybe some he is friends with, in a bad light by their own words. So for that generation it's polite to use a third person reference and not actually point fingers. Instead, ask a question framed in terms of what good is such activity to the health of the community.
But, then ch200 is not for someone you would want dating your daughter is it? Points back to why ch1 got pulled by Hitech. And why small towns had the concept of the other side of the tracks and such necessary evils. You turned a blind eye as long as those evils stayed on the other side of the tracks.
Or Hitech pulls channel 1 forever.
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Can someone tell me why someone would complain about 200 that never tunes to it? :headscratch:
:airplane: If someone came out of a bathroom and said it "stinks" in there, I don't think I would be interested in opening the door just to see for myself!
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:airplane: If someone came out of a bathroom and said it "stinks" in there, I don't think I would be interested in opening the door just to see for myself!
Sure you would be. In fact, you'd likely find it almost impossible not to open the door if you weren't able to sample it from the outside. That's the reason every time someone says "I farted" our instinct is to inhale. We may not admit we do it - but we do. :D
We're really just a tree-branch away from running around sniffing each-others butts like dogs; much more animal than we like to admit. In the virtual world, Ch 200 is the equivalent of marking your territory :rofl
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:airplane: If someone came out of a bathroom and said it "stinks" in there, I don't think I would be interested in opening the door just to see for myself!
You stated the following in another thread
"Goodness Sakes! I didn't mean to get a up roar started! I think the post by Seano pretty much says it all and I agree with you sir, about the squelching of players. Maybe that is the answer! I do intend to start listening on 200, just to see what all the excitement is about and I can and will squelch someone who is using abusive language or just being an "bully".
I think what a lot of people tend to forget is, there are some very young people on here and I think it is highly disrespectful of an adult to use some of the language that I hear sometimes on regular VOX chann's. I guess I am just to old fashioned for the modern young guys who think that kind of language impresses people. It doesn't impress me and I doubt that it impresses anyone else."
Guess you want to check the stink after all.