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Title: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Getback on October 20, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
Last night when I got off I could barely close my joystick hand. I may have tendonitis in my right elbow. This actually started this Summer from using pruners for hours in the yard. I'm not sure whether to go to the doctor or not or just take time off.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: xPoisonx on October 20, 2014, 06:38:39 PM
Take time off and play more AH  :old:
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: guncrasher on October 20, 2014, 06:42:33 PM
how's your eyesight?



semp
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Getback on October 20, 2014, 07:03:54 PM
how's your eyesight?



semp

Good to a point. I'm nearsighted in my left eye and farsighted in my right. Together they work out.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Yankee67 on October 20, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
My canary in the coal mine for too much play is my eyesight.  If it feels like I need to pull my eyeballs out and wash them, then I've been playing too much.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: JimmyC on October 20, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
Do you say `roger  ` when your Mrs or some one asks you something??


 :uhoh


thats a sure tell
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 20, 2014, 09:40:36 PM
wait until you start your merge in to traffic and think about lining up your sights.....

Saying "roger" to your spouse or child is only the beginning.

When your arm twists and turns and becomes all gnarled up in an odd ball position that is more likely from too much fappin'.  Just ask qbert.   
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: zack1234 on October 21, 2014, 02:03:23 AM
If you post me $4000 i will cure it  :old:
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Chilli on October 21, 2014, 03:26:47 AM
On the serious side..............  Is your joystick mounted above elbow level? (for most folks this would be yes, unless they have some sort of modified desk / gaming mount).

As an older gentleman (stop asking how old...  :old:  ) I moved my joystick and throttle controls to lap level and found that to have reduced much of the strain that I was experiencing.

The first way that I did this was simple and the most comfortable.  I took a lap desk that has the padding on the bottom meant to sit your laptop on while in bed.  I screw mounted the joystick to it and it rested comfortably in my lap and gave me the appropriate amount of room for movement.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: RotBaron on October 21, 2014, 03:42:44 AM
Do you say `roger  ` when your Mrs or some one asks you something??


 :uhoh


thats a sure tell

I found myself about to say it on the job, once; I thought hmmm what would the reaction have been  :rofl
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Getback on October 21, 2014, 05:35:34 AM
wait until you start your merge in to traffic and think about lining up your sights.....

Saying "roger" to your spouse or child is only the beginning.

When your arm twists and turns and becomes all gnarled up in an odd ball position that is more likely from too much fappin'.  Just ask qbert.   

I said Roger in an interview, didn't get that job.

Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: GScholz on October 21, 2014, 06:43:19 AM
Don't pull lead on the car in front...
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: SirNuke on October 21, 2014, 11:47:34 AM
On the serious side..............  Is your joystick mounted above elbow level? (for most folks this would be yes, unless they have some sort of modified desk / gaming mount).

As an older gentleman (stop asking how old...  :old:  ) I moved my joystick and throttle controls to lap level and found that to have reduced much of the strain that I was experiencing.

The first way that I did this was simple and the most comfortable.  I took a lap desk that has the padding on the bottom meant to sit your laptop on while in bed.  I screw mounted the joystick to it and it rested comfortably in my lap and gave me the appropriate amount of room for movement.

You are right about this, look at the height level of the sticks in modern fighter jets.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Getback on October 21, 2014, 03:41:49 PM
On the serious side..............  Is your joystick mounted above elbow level? (for most folks this would be yes, unless they have some sort of modified desk / gaming mount).

As an older gentleman (stop asking how old...  :old:  ) I moved my joystick and throttle controls to lap level and found that to have reduced much of the strain that I was experiencing.

The first way that I did this was simple and the most comfortable.  I took a lap desk that has the padding on the bottom meant to sit your laptop on while in bed.  I screw mounted the joystick to it and it rested comfortably in my lap and gave me the appropriate amount of room for movement.

Ill give that a shot, but my chair collapsed. I need a new chair.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: mbailey on October 21, 2014, 03:44:50 PM
Doubt its from playing......you need to give up pruning and yard work....DRs orders  :D
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Chilli on October 21, 2014, 04:08:13 PM
Ill give that a shot, but my chair collapsed. I need a new chair.

Another tip of advice.  I found that a very comfortable chair to sit in had arms that I guess my elbows were supposed to rest on.  Well, rest was not the right word.  I have rather long arms, so that could have complicated the situation.  I ended up installing the arms upside down and eventually moving to an unused auto seat.

The arm support pushed my elbows up and outward and gave me an un natural grip for the joystick.  Even though I have currently totally modified my desk to look like something Dr. Frankenstein would have strung up to the lightening rod, the simple mounting (must be screw mounted) of the joystick on a lap desk and removal of uncomfortable chair arms was the most comfortable and allowed me many comfortable hours of AH fun.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: 68ZooM on October 21, 2014, 04:49:14 PM
I've maybe flown an hour so far this month but no.w that fires seasons pretty much wrapped up I'll have some extra time now
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: morfiend on October 21, 2014, 05:32:54 PM
 Sounds like a slight case of tendonitis,this would be a result of the pruners and not your JS,unless it's a force feedback type but even those dont vibrate enough to cause the problem.

  You could see a DR but likely it would be a waste of time and you might get an Rx for some type of Nsaid drug!  A couple of tylonal will do just as good.  Best thing you can do is rest the hand until the numbness goes away then start an exercise program for it.

   I used to squeeze a ball of wax but any small rubber ball will do.

  Try to avoid power tools or anything similar as this will just prolong the issue.


    :salute
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Mongoose on October 22, 2014, 12:20:14 AM
Do you say `roger  ` when your Mrs or some one asks you something??

My wife has almost gotten used to me saying "tally" when she points something out to me while we are driving.
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Getback on October 22, 2014, 03:47:01 PM
Doubt its from playing......you need to give up pruning and yard work....DRs orders  :D

I like your thinking!
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: jeep00 on October 27, 2014, 07:54:42 PM
how's your eyesight?



semp

 :lol
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Flench on October 28, 2014, 05:28:57 AM
Do you say `roger  ` when your Mrs or some one asks you something??


 :uhoh


thats a sure tell
No  joke  same  here  ,  lol
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: BBP on October 28, 2014, 07:45:49 AM
I am a professional sports coach with over 30 years experience. I made a personal discovery years ago that I transferred to my students. Playing more than 2-3 hours daily (depending on the individual) will put you into a zone where learning becomes most difficult. The reason being is, we are repeating actions and reactions. So every time you are exposed to a situation that requires you to react you will react with the same action. This is not muscle memory but brain memory. So the longer you play, the more times you make the same mental responses, over and over and over. THUS BECOMING PERMANENT!
My suggestion is when you feel stagnant with your ability to improve, TAKE TIME OFF! As an example I recently took time off from over playing. Three months worth. Now you can't let yourself go brain dead over these time out periods. What I suggest you do is run an action over in your head and run the correct response to that action in your head. See yourself making the kill over and over.
Then return to the game and focus on an action/reaction you had prior trouble with. You will find improvement and yourself making kills that were escaping you before.
THE HARDEST PART TO THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS BEING ABLE TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE GAME FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. LIKE MY STUDENTS, EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO PLAY, PLAY PLAY. If you become an addicted player unable top take time off, you will become stagnant and stuck at the level you are at. Taking time off also gives you the benefit of time to rest your injury and over come the physical limitations as well. So taking time off helps in more than one way. I hope this idea of taking time off helps you. It does me - a lot!

GOOD LUCK.
KimoSabe! :aok
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: SirNuke on October 28, 2014, 10:54:57 AM
I am a professional sports coach with over 30 years experience. I made a personal discovery years ago that I transferred to my students. Playing more than 2-3 hours daily (depending on the individual) will put you into a zone where learning becomes most difficult. The reason being is, we are repeating actions and reactions. So every time you are exposed to a situation that requires you to react you will react with the same action. This is not muscle memory but brain memory. So the longer you play, the more times you make the same mental responses, over and over and over. THUS BECOMING PERMANENT!
My suggestion is when you feel stagnant with your ability to improve, TAKE TIME OFF! As an example I recently took time off from over playing. Three months worth. Now you can't let yourself go brain dead over these time out periods. What I suggest you do is run an action over in your head and run the correct response to that action in your head. See yourself making the kill over and over.
Then return to the game and focus on an action/reaction you had prior trouble with. You will find improvement and yourself making kills that were escaping you before.
THE HARDEST PART TO THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS BEING ABLE TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE GAME FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. LIKE MY STUDENTS, EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO PLAY, PLAY PLAY. If you become an addicted player unable top take time off, you will become stagnant and stuck at the level you are at. Taking time off also gives you the benefit of time to rest your injury and over come the physical limitations as well. So taking time off helps in more than one way. I hope this idea of taking time off helps you. It does me - a lot!

GOOD LUCK.
KimoSabe! :aok

Did you consider coaching pro gamers? :aok
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: scott66 on October 28, 2014, 01:21:46 PM
I am a professional sports coach with over 30 years experience. I made a personal discovery years ago that I transferred to my students. Playing more than 2-3 hours daily (depending on the individual) will put you into a zone where learning becomes most difficult. The reason being is, we are repeating actions and reactions. So every time you are exposed to a situation that requires you to react you will react with the same action. This is not muscle memory but brain memory. So the longer you play, the more times you make the same mental responses, over and over and over. THUS BECOMING PERMANENT!
My suggestion is when you feel stagnant with your ability to improve, TAKE TIME OFF! As an example I recently took time off from over playing. Three months worth. Now you can't let yourself go brain dead over these time out periods. What I suggest you do is run an action over in your head and run the correct response to that action in your head. See yourself making the kill over and over.
Then return to the game and focus on an action/reaction you had prior trouble with. You will find improvement and yourself making kills that were escaping you before.
THE HARDEST PART TO THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS BEING ABLE TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE GAME FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. LIKE MY STUDENTS, EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO PLAY, PLAY PLAY. If you become an addicted player unable top take time off, you will become stagnant and stuck at the level you are at. Taking time off also gives you the benefit of time to rest your injury and over come the physical limitations as well. So taking time off helps in more than one way. I hope this idea of taking time off helps you. It does me - a lot!

GOOD LUCK.
KimoSabe! :aok
why does this make sense to me? Ive played almost everyday 4 or 5 hours at a time since 03 I think.first 5 or 6 years exclusively in the DA and I think I'm worse now than when I first started..the only thing I do better is land..once in a while I get lucky and catch a pilot afk or get a proxy LOL so I've been in a tank for a while now :salute
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: FLOOB on October 28, 2014, 02:29:50 PM
Last night when I got off I could barely close my joystick hand.
http://www.nofap.org/
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: pipz on October 28, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
You cant just stop playing AH. Its like any other narcotic. You would have to wean yourself off and I wouldn't even recommend that. The chances of success are notoriously low. Just stop everything else. Problem solved.  :old:
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Changeup on November 01, 2014, 03:42:21 PM
I am a professional sports coach with over 30 years experience. I made a personal discovery years ago that I transferred to my students. Playing more than 2-3 hours daily (depending on the individual) will put you into a zone where learning becomes most difficult. The reason being is, we are repeating actions and reactions. So every time you are exposed to a situation that requires you to react you will react with the same action. This is not muscle memory but brain memory. So the longer you play, the more times you make the same mental responses, over and over and over. THUS BECOMING PERMANENT!
My suggestion is when you feel stagnant with your ability to improve, TAKE TIME OFF! As an example I recently took time off from over playing. Three months worth. Now you can't let yourself go brain dead over these time out periods. What I suggest you do is run an action over in your head and run the correct response to that action in your head. See yourself making the kill over and over.
Then return to the game and focus on an action/reaction you had prior trouble with. You will find improvement and yourself making kills that were escaping you before.
THE HARDEST PART TO THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS BEING ABLE TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE GAME FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. LIKE MY STUDENTS, EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO PLAY, PLAY PLAY. If you become an addicted player unable top take time off, you will become stagnant and stuck at the level you are at. Taking time off also gives you the benefit of time to rest your injury and over come the physical limitations as well. So taking time off helps in more than one way. I hope this idea of taking time off helps you. It does me - a lot!

GOOD LUCK.
KimoSabe! :aok

You mean practice makes perfect is wrong?


PERFECT practice makes perfect.  But, since there are no two single actions in this game that are ever alike, one must PERFECTLY practice adjusting.  Some, like me, don't do that very well.

The things that WILL attrit with time off are:

1.  Judging your own and judging others energy states
2.  Aerial gunnery
3.  SA

After spending 2 of my years off and many, many 3 month breaks during those runs, it comes back.  Just takes a while. :aok
Title: Re: I think I've been playing too much
Post by: Skyyr on November 01, 2014, 03:50:52 PM
I am a professional sports coach with over 30 years experience. I made a personal discovery years ago that I transferred to my students. Playing more than 2-3 hours daily (depending on the individual) will put you into a zone where learning becomes most difficult. The reason being is, we are repeating actions and reactions. So every time you are exposed to a situation that requires you to react you will react with the same action. This is not muscle memory but brain memory. So the longer you play, the more times you make the same mental responses, over and over and over. THUS BECOMING PERMANENT!
My suggestion is when you feel stagnant with your ability to improve, TAKE TIME OFF! As an example I recently took time off from over playing. Three months worth. Now you can't let yourself go brain dead over these time out periods. What I suggest you do is run an action over in your head and run the correct response to that action in your head. See yourself making the kill over and over.
Then return to the game and focus on an action/reaction you had prior trouble with. You will find improvement and yourself making kills that were escaping you before.
THE HARDEST PART TO THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS BEING ABLE TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE GAME FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. LIKE MY STUDENTS, EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO PLAY, PLAY PLAY. If you become an addicted player unable top take time off, you will become stagnant and stuck at the level you are at. Taking time off also gives you the benefit of time to rest your injury and over come the physical limitations as well. So taking time off helps in more than one way. I hope this idea of taking time off helps you. It does me - a lot!

GOOD LUCK.
KimoSabe! :aok

BINGO. And this is why a majority of players who've played for years never improve.