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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Vinkman on October 12, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
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Yes or no. "I like the current method for vehicle spawning, and wouldn't change a thing"
No
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I will die in a vehicle anyway..... so.... ( ) :D
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Ummmm, okay....questionmark? :headscratch:
I'm confuzzled. :uhoh
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Ummmm, okay....questionmark? :headscratch:
I'm confuzzled. :uhoh
as am i... Sometimes you're the camper sometimes you're the one killing the campers... So I guess the answer is yes.. Leave it be it's literally a blast
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Ummmm, okay....questionmark? :headscratch:
I'm confuzzled. :uhoh
as am i
I think hes asking if your ok with the way GV spawns are set now.
His vote is NO.
My vote would be NO also. While its the only way for me to get a kill in a GV :) I think spawn camping is far too easy. Id like to see the "random spawn" generator poll the last spawn and then pick a random spot 1/2 a mile away from the last one. This way a player cant just sit there a pop guys spawning in time after time. It gives the guys spawning in a chance to get rolling and find cover or make some kind of run.
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My vote would be NO also. While its the only way for me to get a kill in a GV :) I think spawn camping is far too easy. Id like to see the "random spawn" generator poll the last spawn and then pick a random spot 1/2 a mile away from the last one. This way a player cant just sit there a pop guys spawning in time after time. It gives the guys spawning in a chance to get rolling and find cover or make some kind of run.
My vote would be yes... I am a lousy shot whether in aircraft or vehicle
:salute
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Id like to see the "random spawn" generator poll the last spawn and then pick a random spot 1/2 a mile away from the last one. This way a player cant just sit there a pop guys spawning in time after time. It gives the guys spawning in a chance to get rolling and find cover or make some kind of run.
Ummmm,
I might have my numbers mixed up, but I thought I read that HT has the spawn points set so that a GV randomly spawns in at points up to 1,500 yds in diameter from the spawn point. Or was it that the diameter of the spawn point was 1500yds?
Either way a 1/2 mile is = to 880yds which really doesn't do anything but put a GV right in the sweet spot for the kill. . . .but I get what you are saying.
I don't have an opinion either way. My motto is "If It moves w/out a Friendly Icon on its skin - It gets the bullet again". . . . lol
I'm pretty sure that Motto is similar to what I saw written on 2 dozen other guys's tanks too. . . . .lol
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You really want to make the game a challenge, have players select which VH hanger they can spawn from. or have fighter & Bombers select which hanger they can come out of. This will help with the VH base is camped or the airfield has a vulcher. That will make camping much harder for 99% of the people playing. I think they should make both sides GV spawn in within 2k from each other. Those are the best long lasting fights. :devil
If they really want to change something, get-rid of the ENY. Ridiculous to only have 11 players on and ENY is almost 30. Make the Game only have two sides and remove ENY. The game no long has the 1000+ players it once had.
DALE I am still waiting on the Radio update were GVs can turn off Air Traffic on local range.
~Mothman~ :airplane:
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mothman, found a curious thing about eny with less than 10 players last night.
it may have changed.
semp
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You really want to make the game a challenge, have players select which VH hanger they can spawn from. or have fighter & Bombers select which hanger they can come out of. This will help with the VH base is camped or the airfield has a vulcher. That will make camping much harder for 99% of the people playing. I think they should make both sides GV spawn in within 2k from each other. Those are the best long lasting fights. :devil
If they really want to change something, get-rid of the ENY. Ridiculous to only have 11 players on and ENY is almost 30. Make the Game only have two sides and remove ENY. The game no long has the 1000+ players it once had.
DALE I am still waiting on the Radio update were GVs can turn off Air Traffic on local range.
~Mothman~ :airplane:
want through a yes or no in for the op?
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want through a yes or no in for the op?
what is the point of it? most players dont even come here to the bb.
semp
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I think hes asking if your ok with the way GV spawns are set now.
His vote is NO.
My vote would be NO also. While its the only way for me to get a kill in a GV :) I think spawn camping is far too easy. Id like to see the "random spawn" generator poll the last spawn and then pick a random spot 1/2 a mile away from the last one. This way a player cant just sit there a pop guys spawning in time after time. It gives the guys spawning in a chance to get rolling and find cover or make some kind of run.
Ah. Then I would also have to vote NO.
The only thing I can think of right off is to create a fort type setup with AT guns. AT guns would be inside the walls, where any one gun can cover the entire interior and entrance/exits. These guns will only cover the interior to clear campers. Give em a 5m DT or less that respawn already pointed at the nearest camper (if any are inside the fort). Put them far enough away from the indestructible walls as to not get taken out by HE splash damage from a hit on the outside part of the wall.
Obviously this would require a reworking of all maps, and readjustments of areas around a GV spawn zone so this isn't negated by terrain easily.
Another, probably easier option would be, readjust the terrain in and around the GV spawn zones into "earthen forts", so to speak. Basically a deal of small hills around the zone. This one just occurred to me while typing up the first one. heh Needs more coffee. :o
Now, neither won't completely remove the ability to spawn camp in one form or another. For example: If you want to spawn snipe tanks at 7k away, knock yourself out. I've done it before on Trinity, W side of TT mountain ranges. There was the airfield that was outside the "delta"(?) from the valley that ran more or less from center-ish out the W. There the spawn into the area put them WAY outside the base on the mountain slope, and had them come down from there. I used to take a Tiger and sit on the field somewhere or in town and pick off folks as they spawned and came down the hill. Now technically I was spawn camping but... :D
I miss Trinity, if only for that one spot on the map. I've both attacked and defended that field. Spawn up the hill, start rolling down towards the field or town, see tracers come up from both. Sitting on the bottom, inside the town (which is usually where I went) or on the field somewhere, watching folks come rolling down the hill shelling base and town. There were a few times where I got to witness some fairly large GV battles there, and boy was it intense.
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I see people landing 49 kills. Im not sure that having. shooting gallery is the best way to approach establishing a way to defend against incoming vehicles.
I’d keep it simple. one thing thats makes camping super easy is that enemies always spawn facing along the spawn arrow. so campers sit behind them knowing it takes a lot of time to turn the turret. Id change it so spawnies can pick the direction they face when spawning in. that way after getting killed two or three times they have a chance to make it an even fight.
but I wonder if HTC like the “ducks in a barrel” aspect of it?
and do the players?
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GV'ers love to camp. But if it is camped and you are upping......you do have the choice to up or not :D You can ask some of your buddies to help you break up the camp and all spawn at once.
:salute
btw......that mean ol' scotty used to always figure out where my M-8 was hiding when he was a Bish LOL
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NO, always ways to improve.
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There's an FPS game out there that features invulnerability/invisibility when you spawn/respawn for a certain distance around the spawn point. You can't be seen or damaged until you leave the circle of safety. Nor can you damage others.
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There's an FPS game out there that features invulnerability/invisibility when you spawn/respawn for a certain distance around the spawn point. You can't be seen or damaged until you leave the circle of safety. Nor can you damage others.
I actually like that idea. Spawn camping is gamey, but its part of the game that people can take advantage of.
Another reason why I hate playing in tanks.
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There's an FPS game out there that features invulnerability/invisibility when you spawn/respawn for a certain distance around the spawn point. You can't be seen or damaged until you leave the circle of safety. Nor can you damage others.
I'd suggest you also couldn't see enemies while you're in the safety zone.
Wiley.
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There's an FPS game out there that features invulnerability/invisibility when you spawn/respawn for a certain distance around the spawn point. You can't be seen or damaged until you leave the circle of safety. Nor can you damage others.
If it's the same one I've played enemies in the spawn zone are visible and can be killed, but you yourself become visible soon as you fire a weapon. It's been a really long time and don't remember if enemies out side if are visible.
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Spawning into a spawn camp is a questionable tactic.
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I'll go thru 20 panzers to get one t34 that has made my must die list ... It's very satisfying but then again but then again I play for fun not score or to try to get girls.. I'm a married man ya know
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GV'ers love to camp. But if it is camped and you are upping......you do have the choice to up or not :D You can ask some of your buddies to help you break up the camp and all spawn at once.
:salute
btw......that mean ol' scotty used to always figure out where my M-8 was hiding when he was a Bish LOL
your m8 was very deadly my friend friend miss ya man
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Spawning into a spawn camp is a questionable tactic.
Interesting thought. Because if the idea of camping is to thwart all incoming GV attacks, then that's an awful lot of power in the hands of one tanker. If that's the theory, then let's get rid of all base guns, and Whirbles at airfields too so one plane can vulch and cap a base. After all taking off at a capped airfield is a questionable tactic. :salute
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I'll go thru 20 panzers to get one t34 that has made my must die list ... It's very satisfying but then again but then again I play for fun not score or to try to get girls.. I'm a married man ya know
I've done that too. Just keep upping till runs out of ammo. But invariably, his buddy arrives. :rofl
It seems like a modification that would give the spawners a bit more of a chance might improve the frustration levels. :salute
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Bring back old GV icon system.
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Any of yall that have friends.... call in air cover.
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Spawn camping is way different than it used to be. It’s much more difficult than it was; I believe that drove many of GV’rs away, like Flk4 and many others I can’t remember...
They loved a good spawn camp and many who could care less about score enjoyed trying to break it.
Vehicle hangar camping is not the same thing & I don’t know why it’s being mentioned as having much to do with the other :headscratch:
However, to answer the question, no I don’t, but not for reasons about camping.
-often spawned in middle of dense vegetation can hardly get the GV rolling
-some maps, the spawns give you no choice but go way around a base to get to town
-some spawns are way too far away from anything to be useful, i.e. A20 up and bombed you before you 1/3 to your destination.
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You make it sound like Camping a Base or Spawn is Easy. It's only easy when you have 2 or 3 other players who knows what they are doing. Let me give you an example:
There other day, not going to say any names they know who they are.... There were THREE GVs covering a Hanger, while I drove around and took out the guns. During that time, The two GVs covering the rear did not have effective communication and ended up getting shot within 9 seconds of camping the hanger. NOW!!!! it would be easy to say well they were out numbered. NOPE it was only 1 GV that came out the hanger and killed all three of them. The Two were behind the VH and the third had a side camp, everyone were all set and ready to camp, the only thing they had to do was say "PULL!" Same thing with camping an Airfield. It's not as easy as you think.... every 10-15 mins Man guns are popping, planes and bombers from nearby base are bomb****ing you. Yes, I got 100 kills camping an Airfield. There was a lot more planning than you might expect that happen to achieve this.
Camping a Spawn is only easy on certain maps that the GV spawns are only 2.5k away from each other and that is a challenge as well because of the 1500k spread. Not sure if many of you know this but the closer you get to a GV spawn the more it shifts. But like anything in life the more you do it the better you get at it. :evil:
FYI if Camping was not suppose to happen why are there two Achievements 1 for killing someone within seconds of upping and 1 for staying alive for so long with campers in the area. Just saying!!!
ALSO Thank YOU !!!! Dale for removing the ENY... Last Night myself and another GV were able to defend off 5 GVs and 2 attack Planes attacking our GV base. We had the Higher ENY but because we were still enable to grab a T34, two of us were able to defend. Didn't have to worry about taking a knife to a gunfight. Especially when 3 T34s, 1 Panther and M3 were just 1k off the base. With an ENY of 27 it would have been very difficult for the two of us to stop such a out numbered senario.
Good luck to everyone, stay safe and healthy!
~S~
Mothman
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Mothman for the last time! I blame rush! Lol my round bounced off of slaxers rear and rush didn't have his gun pointed to the hanger cause he saw a squirrel and got distracted...MR "I brought the wrong load out to hanger camp" :devil :rofl
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FYI if Camping was not suppose to happen why are there two Achievements 1 for killing someone within seconds of upping and 1 for staying alive for so long with campers in the area. Just saying!!!
Those achievements merely acknowledge that camping behavior exists. It does not mean that behavior is encouraged.
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last night i bomb mothman while he was camping the hangar, him and a friend. no planes could take off. he came back, he got egged again. it was one of those rare nights when I don't miss.
camping is not guaranteed.
semp
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last night i bomb mothman while he was camping the hangar, him and a friend. no planes could take off. he came back, he got egged again. it was one of those rare nights when I don't miss.
camping is not guaranteed.
semp
it was still fun tho lol
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Squirrels, something shiny, girls, ....... Rush is always distracted :D :D :D
:salute
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it was still fun tho lol
was fun for me, except for the times I yelled friendly gvs that they were heading to the wrong bridge. nobody turned around, but I wasnt them, cant say they did wrong they headed to their base.
i guess we all have fun in our own way. only way you do wrong is if you dont have fun.
semp
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"No"
The focus of a spawn point should be the base not the other spawn point.
Cavalry
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"No"
The focus of a spawn point should be the base not the other spawn point.
Cavalry
Why? Having spawns near each other makes for an endless tank battle, even with the chance of spawn camping. Spawns closer to a base just makes it undefendable. GVers are paying players, too. (I've been told.) :)
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Spawns closer to a base just makes it undefendable.
Never said I want them closer........... tanks need to be used for maneuver warfare, not steel pillboxes at a spawn camp.
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Never said I want them closer........... tanks need to be used for maneuver warfare, not steel pillboxes at a spawn camp.
Spawns aren't within shooting distance of each other. Maneuvering is essential. :)
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Spawn points need to be on opposite sides of the base from each other then you will have maneuver Warfare... with the prize in between the Spawn points.
CAV
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Spawn points need to be on opposite sides of the base from each other then you will have maneuver Warfare... with the prize in between the Spawn points.
Huh. Actually, that sounds great. :cheers: