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Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: treadd on February 18, 2008, 09:28:53 PM
As promised, here is a quick tutorial covering static camera shots- one non-tracking and one tracking a target plane.

Disclaimer- this is not a 'definitive' film viewer tutorial.  I'm only covering a couple types of shots and some very basic functionality.   I'm hoping this will get people starting to play with the viewer a little more, and maybe figure out some better or easier methods!

I hope you find it useful in making your next killer AH movie!

Download 'TSM 2008' movie (http://www.lkm818.net/Tread/TSM VIDEO FINAL_PC.avi)


Camera Tutorial (http://www.lkm818.net/Tread/AH_camtut.html)
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: DoNKeY on February 19, 2008, 12:07:25 AM
Thank you!

donkey
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: BMathis on February 19, 2008, 09:49:00 AM
How long does it take to get that tutorial running? It just sits there busy, and I'm not sure what the deal is...

Mathis
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: treadd on February 19, 2008, 10:58:43 AM
Ack!  For some reason it doesnt stream well.  Crap.

Sorry guys, try just right clicking on the link below and 'save as'.  It will download a .swf file, that you can open with IE or Firefox.

Sorry about this.

Film Veiwer Tutorial (http://lkm818.net/Tread/AH_camtut.swf)
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on February 19, 2008, 11:55:24 AM
Here's the HTML you can use to run it:















Copy the above and paste it in Notepad (Start>Programs>Accessories>Notepad) Then save it to the location where you downloaded the .swf tutorial as: AH_FV_tut.html

Afterwards open the file you just made (HTML file you copied above) and it will play the .swf tutorial for you.
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: treadd on February 19, 2008, 12:33:54 PM
Excellent!  Thanks Denholm.  I was really hoping it wouldnt be such a song and dance to get this out the door- so much for that idea.  However your suggestion definitely makes it a much smoother ride.
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on February 19, 2008, 01:43:58 PM
No problem, I use the same script to run my Flash Navigation Menu on my website. So I figured I'd make it simple for those who don't have the .swf player.:aok
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: reeb on February 19, 2008, 02:44:22 PM
excellent job!
this should be sticky'ed  
treadd
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on February 19, 2008, 04:25:09 PM
Agreed.
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: CheeseHead on February 22, 2008, 10:16:51 PM
Another job well done! Say, do you do taxes?

!

~CheezHed
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: treadd on February 22, 2008, 10:19:02 PM
LOL! Do I sound that boring? :D

Bueller....

Bueller....

.............Bueller....
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: sidey on February 27, 2008, 12:51:05 AM
the frustrometer is peaking,, can anyone help,,,,

i downloaded this camtut and followed denholms instructions to the letter..

no joy,,,,,

im the first to admit my IT illiteracy, but i really wanted to learn how to use the camera shot thingo,,, any suggestions,, other than stik my head in the sand will be gratefully appreciated,,,,,

idey

Red Raw Prawn
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: treadd on February 27, 2008, 02:30:44 AM
Heya sidey-

I just tried this and it worked- open either IE or firefox, and drag the file into the browser window.  IE kinda choked a little trying to block the 'harmful content', but clicking through the warnings opened it up.
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on February 27, 2008, 08:59:06 AM
Sidey, make sure after you save the code file as "AH_FV_tut.html" that you place the .swf tutorial into the same folder with the HTML file. Afterwards open the "AH_FV_tut" file and the video should play.


If it doesn't here's how we debug it:

1. Does the "AH_FV_tut" file open with Internet Explorer or any other web-browsing software? If it does, we know there were no errors in saving the HTML file. If it doesn't, then you probably saved it in-correctly. Make sure that when you save the file you particularly save it (with the period) as: AH_FV_tut.html

2. Does nothing show when you open the "AH_FV_tut" file? If nothing shows you either did not place the "AH_camtut" file into the same folder with the "AH_FV_tut" file. However if both those files are in the same location and nothing shows, you probably don't have the Flash Player.

Regardless if you have it or not, installing it again won't hurt a thing, and it will further aid us in the debugging process:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash

Just press the "Install Now" button.


If it still won't work even after all of this it's probably my code. It became outdated when Flash was sold from Macromedia to Adobe. So part of the code is inactive and faulty.
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: sidey on February 28, 2008, 10:31:30 PM
followed your instructions once again,,, i didnt have flash player,, but now that i do,, it still hangs with blank screen... the files are in the same folder and the HTML links to the browser but goes no further....

think im doomed  :(

also tried the drag and drop into IE and it hung like nasty described!!

is there any other way i can get this information?

Its hard to sound appreciative when your so frustrated, but really i am i thank you for taking the time to help me with this tedious task...

AD  IDEY

the rawest of prawns
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on February 29, 2008, 09:07:52 AM
Let's try using the SWF player that Macromedia made a while back. Download it here:

http://603sqdrn.collectivelyspaced.com/SWF%20Players.rar

Once you download it open it with Win RAR, not Win Zip. If you don't have Win RAR download it here:

http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250_4-10007677.html?tag=lst-2

Once you open the downloaded file with Win RAR click on the folder named "Players". Now press the "Extract to" button at the top. Once the "Extraction path and options" menu appears, click on the "Desktop" (Shown on the right). Now press "OK" and it should extract the files to your Desktop.


Once you extracted the files go to your Desktop, open the new folder named "Players". Now open the file named "SAFlashPlayer". It should open a program with a white screen. Once it's open go to File>Open. Now press the "Browse" button and locate the .SWF tutorial (Wherever you saved it.) Once you selected it and opened it you should be able to play it using that player, if not, I do not know how to help you. Perhaps the only way to get it to work is to stream it (Watch it online) at the link provided at the top.

If it does work, have fun with the camera angles.:aok
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: BMathis on February 29, 2008, 11:05:14 AM
Can we get a scripted/text version? Preeeeeeeettttty Pllllleeeeeeeeaaaaassse :D
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: MajWoody on March 03, 2008, 12:11:14 AM
I just clicked the link & it worked fine. Seemed like a really huge DL but it worked none the less.

 Thanks for the tutorial.  :)
Title: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on March 03, 2008, 09:40:24 AM
Yes, the stream version will work. We're discussing the down-loadable version.
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Gianlupo on March 08, 2008, 08:05:17 AM
Can we get a scripted/text version? Preeeeeeeettttty Pllllleeeeeeeeaaaaassse :D

Can I have subtitles! :D

EDIT: Btw, Denholm, I'm afraid there's something wrong with the code you posted, after BBS change... your post doesn't show it and Firefox keep asking me to install unknown plug-ins to view the page.....
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Gianlupo on March 08, 2008, 11:47:49 AM
Ok, I don't need subtitles.... treadd has a clear enough voice! ;)
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Sketch on March 11, 2008, 04:59:57 PM
Ok, I don't need subtitles.... treadd has a clear enough voice! ;)

I could read it for you.... but I only have 3 languages.... English, Bad English and Bad Italian! :D  My 5 year old son and my wife both speak Italian better than I do after living there for 4+ years!  :rofl
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on March 11, 2008, 06:29:52 PM
Can I have subtitles! :D

EDIT: Btw, Denholm, I'm afraid there's something wrong with the code you posted, after BBS change... your post doesn't show it and Firefox keep asking me to install unknown plug-ins to view the page.....

This time I saved it as a .txt file on my computer and attached it. Hopefully it works. Make sure to download it to the same location as the tutorial which you should have downloaded already. Once you did that open the new file (AH_FV_tut.txt) and go to File>Save As (Not Save.) Now save the file as: AH_FV_tut.html

Make sure its saving to the same location as the tutorial.
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Gianlupo on March 11, 2008, 06:41:52 PM
I could read it for you.... but I only have 3 languages.... English, Bad English and Bad Italian! :D  My 5 year old son and my wife both speak Italian better than I do after living there for 4+ years!  :rofl

I'll take your bad Italian! :D

Thanks Den, I can see the tutorial just fine in Firefox, I wrote that note because every time I load page one of this thread, Firefox ask for installing a plug in, but then nothing's listed in the plug-in recovery pop-up window... I thought it has something to do with the code you wrote, that now seems to be part of the page.
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Latrobe on March 11, 2008, 08:08:11 PM
Can I have subtitles! :D

I want subtitles too! Not normal ones though, I want them in Spanish. I can't speak or read spanish, but I want spanish subtitles!
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Gianlupo on March 12, 2008, 04:17:52 AM
Why Spanish? I bet you can't read or speak Swedish, either, so..... why Spanish? :confused:
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Denholm on March 12, 2008, 10:05:54 AM
...Thanks Den, I can see the tutorial just fine in Firefox, I wrote that note because every time I load page one of this thread, Firefox ask for installing a plug in, but then nothing's listed in the plug-in recovery pop-up window... I thought it has something to do with the code you wrote, that now seems to be part of the page.
It's asking for the plug-in because the script which is now part of this page is attempting to download a Flash player to play a video which is nonexistent. When the forum update was completed it accepted HTML, because of that my script became an operable piece of code on this web page actually browsing the web server looking for the FV Tutorial. Since it doesn't exist, the film won't play.
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Gianlupo on March 13, 2008, 05:19:46 AM
Cc Den. :)
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: moot on March 13, 2008, 02:15:05 PM
So there's no way to have the camera transition from one shot to the next on its own?  Say, a top down fixed view of two planes doing merge immelmans, then having the camera move from that perch and follow the planes along the center of their downward barrel rolls?
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: Gianlupo on March 13, 2008, 03:14:12 PM
I'm afraid there isn't, m00t, that's another thing we should ask for... (some others I've pointed out in this thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,229503.0.html))
Title: Re: Film viewer tutorial
Post by: moot on March 14, 2008, 03:23:46 AM
That really cuts down on the screenplay possibilites...