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Title: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Mister Fork on October 27, 2017, 12:13:00 PM
Let's imagine that you're the co-owner of a large MMO - or, imagine you're Hitech. 

You have three distinct issues to address with respect to in-game player-controlled objects.

1. You have a list of planes/vehicles/ships that are essentially using the same design model from AH1/2. They're in desperate need a refresh. I.e. Tempest.

2. You have a list of high-use aircraft that players love, they were updated in AH2 recently, and get a lot of use in the MA. I.e. P-51D, Spitfires, La's, etc.

3. You have a gap in your player game-set or ideas from other players to add net-new objects. Japanese tanks. Landing ships. Flying boats. More Italian playables. Other allied objects (tanks/ships/aircraft). Interesting gameplay options (i.e. Submarines). 

So, where do you focus your limited resources? Do you update really old objects, focus on your higher use playables, or introduce new objects?

Discuss!

Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Wiley on October 27, 2017, 12:19:49 PM
1 3 2, if it were me.  With 3, ignoring new things like subs, focus on improving what's already here.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Lazerr on October 27, 2017, 12:23:23 PM
Add a Japanese cargo delivery vehicle.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Devil 505 on October 27, 2017, 12:33:26 PM
Add a Japanese cargo delivery vehicle.

We already have the Betty.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: TheBug on October 27, 2017, 02:50:11 PM
Type 1 Ho-Ha!!
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: lunatic1 on October 27, 2017, 03:44:19 PM
We already have the Betty.


hehe don't tell JunkyII I said this but we already have the M3 hehe.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: wil3ur on October 27, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
Add Kamakazi loadout for Japanese planes so we can crash them into ships for more immersion.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Vraciu on October 27, 2017, 03:52:22 PM
Add Kamakazi loadout for Japanese planes so we can crash them into ships for more immersion.

I did the "Red Leader Yaaaaaaaaah!" on a CV the other day.   Was pretty cool.   But it didn't damage anything other than my ego.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: bustr on October 27, 2017, 03:59:53 PM
You buy 3D professional models today and adjust them for your game engine. There are a number of 3D artists who specialize in 3D aircraft models for games and simulations. I suspect only if something is very rare does Waffle get into the ground up 3D creation business for rides anymore. They even have tanks in the links below.

Check these two sites as an example:

https://www.turbosquid.com

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/aircraft

Why do you guys always try to town hall format force Hitech to do what you want?
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: lunatic1 on October 27, 2017, 04:02:16 PM
please explain to the dummy(me) how do you up grade a P-51D-LA-7-Spit16 if these planes were the last versions  used in WWII, not arguing or dissing anyone. so how can the planes be up dated if they are the latest historically correct version's to be used-you know plane counts-kills etc.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: BBQsam on October 27, 2017, 04:15:34 PM
3 could bring in more new players.

(hint hint   subs,  combat troops...)
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Mister Fork on October 27, 2017, 04:26:50 PM
please explain to the dummy(me) how do you up grade a P-51D-LA-7-Spit16 if these planes were the last versions  used in WWII, not arguing or dissing anyone. so how can the planes be up dated if they are the latest historically correct version's to be used-you know plane counts-kills etc.
They're just using the old AHII environment models - the new graphics engine allows for much more detailed aircraft. The idea is to then take a P-51D, and update the cockpit and 3D model to the new settings.

It would be handy if Hitech could take advantage of pre-made models like Bustr pointed out.  Is that even an option?

Bustr - check out the Ju-52 model: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-junkers-ju-52/737330 :x

Or the Ju-288: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/aircraft/historic/junkers-ju-288c

SM-79: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/aircraft/historic/savoia-marchetti-sm-79-sparviero

PBY Catalina: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/aircraft/historic/consolidated-pby-5-catalina-38093dc9-c9c7-41c4-afc3-04fc434835da
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: bustr on October 27, 2017, 05:03:14 PM
If the creator of the 3D model has a version in the 3D format used in our game or, a conversion can be requested. At least one of these guys who is prolific with WW2 aircraft Chip Basschao seems to take requests. 3D art now days seems very standardized cross platform. Or our world may be using a scale that forces Waffle to build everything from scratch. So far Waffle is my 3D art Hero..... :x
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: EagleDNY on October 28, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
Some rides (like the Tempest) really scream out for updating. 
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Greebo on October 28, 2017, 01:53:59 PM
Even if a 3D model exterior shape for a new aircraft is bought from an outside source there is still a huge amount of work to be done in creating the interior cockpit 3D shapes and art as well as any gun positions, this was one of the reasons HTC dropped interior art for GVs. Then there is low level of detail work, damaged parts modelling and art, ordnance and so on.
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: Volron on October 28, 2017, 01:55:43 PM
Some rides (like the Tempest) really scream out for updating.

Pfff, Tempy is the most up-to-date thing in AH when compared to the Ju-88 or Ki-67. :P
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: ROC on October 30, 2017, 06:40:03 PM
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Add Kamakazi loadout for Japanese planes so we can crash them into ships for more immersion.
Ok, but you are logged out for 24 hours after you crash :)
Title: Re: Refurbish high use, refurbish AH1/2 models, or add new?
Post by: BBQsam on October 30, 2017, 09:07:40 PM
Add Kamakazi loadout for Japanese planes so we can crash them into ships for more immersion.

Better yet let Japanese planes only have a Kamakazi option.  100 perks extra for the option. But if you land you dont get the 100 perks back.

Well above ok is kinda    off topic.



Boston needs updating.   <       on topic