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Title: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 11:48:41 AM
I think that's a bit much, especially for the first time. For someone that spends a few hours each day playing, that's a long time.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: DMGOD on August 24, 2011, 11:57:06 AM
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. :bolt:n :bolt::bolt:o :bolt::headscratch:D :headscratch:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: coombz on August 24, 2011, 11:57:34 AM
rule #1 don't be a dick
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: zack1234 on August 24, 2011, 12:01:13 PM
Thats a rude word suspend him :old:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Midway on August 24, 2011, 12:08:27 PM
Thats a rude word suspend him :old:

Not accepting Hitech's only rule!  Suspend him :old:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
Thats a rude word suspend him :old:

Ok. I was being a dick, but it was to another dick. I'm usually the Lord Of Niceness And Fairness in Midwar.

After a day or so the point's been made. No reason for a whole week unless it's repeat behavior.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Pigslilspaz on August 24, 2011, 12:13:51 PM
Not accepting Hitech's only rule!  Suspend him :old:

It was actually Superfly's! Suspend him  :old:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Soulyss on August 24, 2011, 12:14:10 PM
Ok. I was being a dick, but it was to another dick. I'm usually the Lord Of Niceness And Fairness in Midwar.

After a day or so the point's been made. No reason for a whole week unless it's repeat behavior.

Seems to me you still had control over what you typed into the chat buffer, just cause someone else is behaving badly doesn't excuse more bad behavior.

Take it as a lesson learned, or if you want to discuss it call HTC directly.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Digr1 on August 24, 2011, 12:15:57 PM
dont suspend BAN him
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: ImADot on August 24, 2011, 12:16:52 PM
If you think you were unfairly muted (being a dick to a dick doesn't factor into it), take it up with HTC so they can check the logs.  Otherwise, relax and reflect for the week.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 12:17:47 PM
Take it as a lesson learned,

It shouldn't take a week to make a point.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: TwoStep on August 24, 2011, 12:20:23 PM
It shouldn't take a week to make a point.

What exactly did you do?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: RTHolmes on August 24, 2011, 12:20:37 PM
a week is long enough to bug you so much that you posted on the forum about it.

as a punishment/deterrent I'd say ... job done :aok
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 12:22:09 PM
If you think you were unfairly muted (being a dick to a dick doesn't factor into it), ...


Again: My point is more the length of the suspension. The muting was fair enough. It was a stupid and unnecessary comment and it was foolish for me to make, although the guy did deserve it. :lol

Many years ago, just after I first started playing, I got muted for 10 minutes for texting the bs word. Fair enough and point made. They didn't hit me for a week. I'm not suggesting they go back to 10 minutes but I would think a day should suffice.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: zack1234 on August 24, 2011, 12:23:35 PM
Suspend Midway :old:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Digr1 on August 24, 2011, 12:24:47 PM
So it wasnt your first time muted, you should have learned your lesson, deal with it and get over it
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
What exactly did you do?

In a rather nasty exchange between myself vs. a guy who tends to piss off a number of people, I texted that old saying: "If I want any lip from you, I'll...", and was muted right after that. Dumb and unnecessary comment to make, especially since I'd already said what I felt needed to be said to the guy.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: captain1ma on August 24, 2011, 12:30:19 PM
next time try " thank you, may i have another!"
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 12:31:47 PM
So it wasnt your first time muted, you should have learned your lesson, deal with it and get over it

The first and only time I was muted, before this, was probably 7 years ago. I'd hardly consider that repeat behavior.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Stogie on August 24, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
Really bad idea to bring this to the BBS..  Call Hitech and discuss it, you may get better traction there.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: ImADot on August 24, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
Many years ago, just after I first started playing, I got muted for 10 minutes for texting the bs word. Fair enough and point made. They didn't hit me for a week. I'm not suggesting they go back to 10 minutes but I would think a day should suffice.

I believe the auto-filter, if warnings are ignored will mute you for 10 minutes...or a moderator was on and only gave you 10 minutes.  Getting reported enough (I think default is 5 times) will stick you in the 1-week chat ban.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 24, 2011, 12:55:38 PM
I believe the auto-filter, if warnings are ignored will mute you for 10 minutes

Which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Masherbrum on August 24, 2011, 12:57:56 PM
a week is long enough to bug you so much that you posted on the forum about it.

as a punishment/deterrent I'd say ... job done :aok

Aye
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Dragon on August 24, 2011, 01:04:17 PM

Too bad the chat ban isn't coupled with a BBS ban.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Becinhu on August 24, 2011, 01:05:57 PM
Just man up and take your lumps.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 24, 2011, 01:07:18 PM
 :lol The amount of people that don't have the ability to read two lines of text is amazing  :lol

He did not say he got muted unfairly.  
He is not a repeat offender
He does not want to talk with HT about anything

He just said the duration maybe too long.  Wild guess is he wants to see what others think.  It is amazing to see who is having applications pending and who is hoping to fill one out soon lol.


Oups, more than 1 line.  Good luck to me  :lol
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: TinmanX on August 24, 2011, 01:29:41 PM
I'd say it depends upon who you said what to. If it was who I think it was there should be a perk point bonus instead.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Shuffler on August 24, 2011, 02:01:07 PM
Control....... self initiated, is best. Failing that you're at the mercy of the "powers that be".

When your drawn and quartered it always seems too long. Problem is that many folks don't mind a 1 day suspension to blather along their agenda.

The bar needs to be set a little higher right off the bat to nip the hooligans in the bud. Most will not want to gamble a 1 week suspension.


You, my friend, were just caught up in the middle of it all.



EDIT Ignore Stogey.... he's just smart. :D
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: fuzeman on August 24, 2011, 02:07:11 PM
Don't confuse the auto-filter with a suspension. You got auto-muted waaay back. This time it is evidently HTC actually making a decision to take away your chat privileges. I would bet they have a set period of time they suspend chat and also don't think your special enough for a break.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: wil3ur on August 24, 2011, 02:28:16 PM
Just never bring up Jimmy Carter...  That results in instaban.  That, and if someone keeps telling you to "Suck a <insert object>"  repeatedly on channel, don't take that as an opportunity to tell them to show you how, because they get to keep talking and you'll be banned for 4 hours.  Also, if someone who repeatedly uses 1337speak or other misspellings to get profanity across 200, don't accidentally typo because they'll keep swearing to their hearts content, and you'll be banned for 4 hours.  If someone is swearing repeatedly on local vox even with children present, don't try and report them because the moderators really don't care about certain people...  And finally, never start stupid threads about what you shouldn't say on channel because it'll just make you more mad as you get flamed, and HTC really doesn't care if you don't like it, as long as you pay your $15.00.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: zack1234 on August 24, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
What words do you have to write to get banned?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Zoney on August 24, 2011, 02:31:09 PM
I think one week suspension for a first offense is just about right.  I would like to see 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 4 weeks for each subsequent infraction of the rules.  Yes, there are people who will annoy you here.  Some people only play because the want to be annoying on the buffer it sometimes seems.  When you respond, in kind, to people of this ilk, you not only empower them and give them what they want (attention), you also drag the game down a bit farther.  You either make this game better or you make this game worse with your actions sir.

Your actions are also not justified because someone else is worse than you and you were "just responding".  You do not need to respond.

The game will be quite playable with comms suspended.  Yes we will miss your vital intelligence information and you will have to use your mouse for a check 6 but all things will pass, you will be back "hangin' wit yur homeys" in no time.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: wil3ur on August 24, 2011, 02:33:54 PM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Beefcake on August 24, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
Self control, learn how to use it.

There are plenty of times every night that I want to cuss someone out because I feel like I was "cheated" or "unfairly owned". The reason I don't lash out at people is because that person that made me mad might be a friend tomorrow, and I'd hate to burn that bridge.

If someone is taunting you or being a dick to you just be the better man and move on. Better yet if you can make a clean but witty response is even better.  :D
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: zack1234 on August 24, 2011, 02:49:53 PM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 24, 2011, 03:25:40 PM

The game will be quite playable with comms suspended.  Yes we will miss your vital intelligence information and you will have to use your mouse for a check 6 but all things will pass, you will be back "hangin' wit yur homeys" in no time.

It is also quite playable without reading 200.  Actually, if you are reading it, you are not playing.  Its funny how a couple of words on a text buffer that scrolls so fast no one can really read (unless that is all they are doing) can get you banned for a week, but anyone can tune to my radio and start teaching my kids new words lol.

Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: bustr on August 24, 2011, 03:31:27 PM
We've been getting a lot of these text and chat banned complaints since HiTech and company moved us back to a single arena. Maybe it's time for the dreaded next move on HTC's part if so many have so littel self control.

HTC, please disable ch200.

Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Midway on August 24, 2011, 03:32:47 PM
We've been getting a lot of these text and chat banned complaints since HiTech and company moved us back to a single arena. Maybe it's time for the dreaded next move on HTC's part if so many have so littel self control.

HTC, please disable ch200.



 :O :uhoh
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 03:43:39 PM
HTC, please disable ch200.

I haven't been in Late War for years but seems to me Ch200 is voluntary. It's not like the All channel in MidWar where everyone is on it whether they want to be, or not. If you don't like Channel 200, tune it out, but don't ruin it for others that enjoy it.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Midway on August 24, 2011, 03:44:36 PM
I haven't been in Late War for years but seems to me Ch200 is voluntary. It's not like the All channel in MidWar where everyone is on it whether they want to be, or not. If you don't like Channel 200, tune it out, but don't ruin it for others that enjoy it.

 :aok :D
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Becinhu on August 24, 2011, 03:46:56 PM
99% of what is typed on 200 wasn't worth the time it took to type it.  Perhaps 10-15 minute timeouts for the 200 mental midgets who type more than X number of lines per minute would free up much needed chat buffer space.  Of course then Midway wouldn't ever get to use 200.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Midway on August 24, 2011, 03:48:09 PM
99% of what is typed on 200 wasn't worth the time it took to type it.  Perhaps 10-15 minute timeouts for the 200 mental midgets who type more than X number of lines per minute would free up much needed chat buffer space.  Of course then Midway wouldn't ever get to use 200.

 :O :uhoh

 :noid
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 24, 2011, 04:10:03 PM

HTC, please disable ch200.



See you all on 201.  That brings up a question though.  Is channel 201, 202, 203 etc also being moderated?  I understand country, range and the old channel 1, but why is a specific tunable channel moderated?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Lepape2 on August 24, 2011, 04:26:48 PM
I'll quote again from an unknown person:

"Never ague with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" ... which is EXACTLY what happened for you. You got banned, and he didn't. End of story.  If you can't follow that very easy rule, then you deserve your 1 week ban, sorry. Its not too long, you get angry at first, then, a couple days later, when emotions have settled, you start to rationnalise and put things in perspective. You don't have time to do that in 10minutes.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Nathan60 on August 24, 2011, 04:48:45 PM
:O :uhoh

Midway goes into withdraw just thinking about living a  200less life
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: TwinBoom on August 24, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
We've been getting a lot of these text and chat banned complaints since HiTech and company moved us back to a single arena. Maybe it's time for the dreaded next move on HTC's part if so many have so littel self control.

HTC, please disable ch200.



200 is a voluntary channel you don't have to tune to it , why its censored is beyond me

Should have a warning "if tuned you may be exposed to things you dont like" for the pansy players
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: JOACH1M on August 24, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
Your telling me  :rofl I can't vox or type
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 24, 2011, 05:41:11 PM
dont do the crime if ya cant do the time...
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: ImADot on August 24, 2011, 05:51:42 PM
Its funny how a couple of words on a text buffer that scrolls so fast no one can really read (unless that is all they are doing) can get you banned for a week, but anyone can tune to my radio and start teaching my kids new words lol.

Report vox, then squelch them.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Raptor05121 on August 24, 2011, 07:19:55 PM
I haven't been in Late War for years

is this possible?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Slash27 on August 24, 2011, 07:41:05 PM
rule #1 don't be a dick
(http://www.jesseliebman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tricky-dick.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: bj229r on August 24, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
The English language is a large and wonderful thing....there are many ways to artfully take someone apart with nary a foul word, and the beautiful part is they probably cannot understand what you're doing to them :rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Yeager on August 24, 2011, 08:08:15 PM
Ok. I was being a dick, but it was to another dick.
Two dicks going at it.  Something is quite wrong with that picture ;)
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 24, 2011, 08:08:33 PM
Two dicks going at it.  Something is quite wrong with that picture ;)
:rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 24, 2011, 09:14:12 PM
is this possible?

It certainly is. I first quit Late War because I hated the large maps, which seemed to predominate the arena after they came out. I ended up in Mid War and that's my home now if only because, not only no large maps, but it's nowhere near as crowded, either.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Guppy35 on August 24, 2011, 09:26:05 PM
200 is a voluntary channel you don't have to tune to it , why its censored is beyond me

Should have a warning "if tuned you may be exposed to things you dont like" for the pansy players

Gonna disagree with you on this one TB.  I look at 200 as the place to check in with folks, talk about the fights, the history or whatever.  AH is the last place I want to come to hear about someone's politics or to see some one have to prove they lack the ability to convey a thought without typing swearing etc. 

Plenty of forums out there for folks to go talk about anything they want any way they want.

As with any of us, HTC is allowing us into his house and gets to set the limits.  That would apply if someone comes into my house as well and I'm sure yours.  If two guys or three are that intent on talking about stuff that isn't ok on 200 I don't quite see why the rest of us should have to have to choose to shut it down.  No reason they can't take the conversation elsewhere.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Max on August 24, 2011, 09:47:06 PM
xTyger I've seen you "push buttons" a number of times in MW. Without having been there at the time, I'm pretty sure I know the general context of what you said and who you said it to. I've watched it go down before.

Bottom line, if you wouldn't say it to your mother; don't say it. #2 If you say it to someone with a bunch of enemy squaddies, be ready to pay the price. If you think you got squelched unfairly, bring it to Skuzzy's attention via email. I for one, can't help you via the forum, nor can anyone else. A .report chat offense is 7 days. I doubt Dale will re-write the code because you're mad.

If the folks who gave you the spank in the pants did it unjustly, HTC will review and respond accordingly.

/lesson in reality
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: VonMessa on August 24, 2011, 10:01:48 PM
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Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Karnak on August 24, 2011, 11:10:10 PM
Some people just won't grow up and when they are held accountable for their actions, try to push responsibility for the consequences of their actions onto others.  Taking responsibility for your own actions is the mark of an adult and many fail it.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 24, 2011, 11:19:39 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/butthurtform.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Slash27 on August 24, 2011, 11:26:24 PM
Von :rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: captain1ma on August 25, 2011, 06:51:00 AM
I think that's a bit much, especially for the first time. For someone that spends a few hours each day playing, that's a long time.

first offense is 10 minutes. second offense is 10000 minutes. if you commit a second offense within 11000 minutes of the first offense you get a 1 week vacation. obviously you it was your second offense, because these settings are across the board, in all arena's. therefore your whining about it accomplishes nothing.

the only one that can do anything about it is skuzzy. so crying on these boards is just you have a tantrum because you got spanked. some rules are non-negotiable. that's something you need to learn. you can squawk about it all you want, but you self-admittedly gave sufficient facts to deserve it.

man up and take it!

I've been PNG'd ,muted, text banned and everything else over the time I've been here. i learned from my mistake and tried not to repeat it. but i didn't get on the boards and whine about it.

unlike mommy and daddy, there are some things in life you just can't talk you way out of. The only question here is did you learn anything and will you repeat your actions?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: flatiron1 on August 25, 2011, 06:54:44 AM
xtiger muted now! :banana:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 25, 2011, 07:27:12 AM
Some people just won't grow up and when they are held accountable for their actions, try to push responsibility for the consequences of their actions onto others.  Taking responsibility for your own actions is the mark of an adult and many fail it.

As Dedalos commented earlier, it's amazing poor the reading comprehension of so many in here is. I never said I was unfairly muted.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Dragon Tamer on August 25, 2011, 08:21:18 AM
I'm sure you had it coming, as per the susspension I do thing that was a bit long even unneccisary.

I was muted for 10 minutes once for saying something that was apparently mildly offensive to someone somewhere even though I don't know what I said.  I think I may have been muted by 800nate, I do know that he has threatened to report me over nothing before.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: VonMessa on August 25, 2011, 08:29:02 AM
I'm sure you had it coming, as per the susspension I do thing that was a bit long even unneccisary.

I was muted for 10 minutes once for saying something that was apparently mildly offensive to someone somewhere even though I don't know what I said.  I think I may have been muted by 800nate, I do know that he has threatened to report me over nothing before.

Only mods can mute a player.

8 days is just long enough to make one think about one's actions.

Posting here about will do nothing but expose one's self to ridicule.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 25, 2011, 10:39:02 AM
I'm sure you had it coming, as per the susspension I do thing that was a bit long even unneccisary.

I was muted for 10 minutes once for saying something that was apparently mildly offensive to someone somewhere even though I don't know what I said.  I think I may have been muted by 800nate, I do know that he has threatened to report me over nothing before.

 :rofl So he had it coming, but you have no idea why you got muted.  Funny how things only apply to the others  :lol
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 25, 2011, 11:20:58 AM
:rofl So he had it coming, but you have no idea why you got muted.  Funny how things only apply to the others  :lol

 :devil
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: icepac on August 25, 2011, 01:17:42 PM
Only mods can mute a player.

8 days is just long enough to make one think about one's actions.

Posting here about will do nothing but expose one's self to ridicule.

I thought there was an 60 minute automute triggered by mass reporting that does not require a moderator to be present.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: SEseph on August 25, 2011, 01:29:03 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/butthurtform.jpg)

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 25, 2011, 03:45:08 PM
xtiger muted now! :banana:

That hurts, flatiron. That really hurts. :cry

Just for that, BASE UNDER ATTACK! ORD DOWN AT A43 NOW!

There. Take that!
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: flatiron1 on August 25, 2011, 03:54:02 PM
Just picking buddy, :neener: LOL
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Zoney on August 25, 2011, 04:11:13 PM
XTYGER, you didn't say you were unfailrly muted but your original statement implies that you think the punishment was too long for your infraction, and thereby unfair..  As you can see many of us do not agree that it was unfair.

Don't you think it is interesting that some people will learn from your mistake and not ever get what you got as punishment even though you did not learn from your first infraction and suspension?

It is like what your mom probably told you when you went out to the sandbox with your friends, "play nice".

If I may suggest, seriously, the next time you feel like you did, just log off for awhile  before you say anything.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 25, 2011, 04:33:52 PM
even though you did not learn from your first infraction and suspension?

You're saying I didn't learn anything from an infraction that happened something like 7 years ago? :confused: As if the two incidents are related. :huh

It doesn't take a week's suspension to give me a message that blew it (although I offer no apologies to the guy I made the remark to). If it does take that long for you or anyone else here to get the message you're not supposed to text nasty things to other players, they can always suspend you again for a day or two after you do it again.

It doesn't take that long for me, and I would assume that goes for most players.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: FLS on August 25, 2011, 04:49:44 PM
It isn't easy to determine the precise length of time that a particular player needs be muted in order to change their behavior.  If you are comfortable being muted for a day then you certainly need to be muted for a week. The mute is supposed to change your behavior, it's not simply a price you pay to be an ass. Since the mute has to be effective for various players it's best to pick a length of time that will work for most of them even if it's more than some of them require.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 25, 2011, 04:59:04 PM
It isn't easy to determine the precise length of time that a particular player needs be muted in order to change their behavior.  If you are comfortable being muted for a day then you certainly need to be muted for a week. The mute is supposed to change your behavior, it's not simply a price you pay to be an ass. Since the mute has to be effective for various players it's best to pick a length of time that will work for most of them even if it's more than some of them require.
i think chat bans should be a month long and cost 14.95+a month long ban from the game :D
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Karnak on August 25, 2011, 05:33:51 PM
As Dedalos commented earlier, it's amazing poor the reading comprehension of so many in here is. I never said I was unfairly muted.
I never said otherwise.  There are, however, a lot of people in the thread whom that was directed at.

I can't recall ever having been muted, not even for ten minutes.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 25, 2011, 06:02:56 PM
Since the mute has to be effective for various players it's best to pick a length of time that will work for most of them even if it's more than some of them require.

I don't think so. You can always mute them again upon reoffense. It doesn't seem that hard to do.

If one day doesn't do the trick with one player, slap on another, then another until he stops whatever he's doing. I have a hard time believing most players won't get the message after one day. Heck, I got the message after 10 minutes, 7 or so years ago when I was muted for just one word.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Rich52 on August 25, 2011, 06:13:19 PM
i think chat bans should be a month long and cost 14.95+a month long ban from the game :D

Yeah, thats brilliant. It would give players one month to play other games and stew over being ripped off 15 bucks for saying what 10 other players just got away with. Ive seen individuals say all kinds of stuff on chat and get away with it. Aces High has less then 1/2 the K/Ds it had at the height of its popularity. Lucky for them IL2 COD is a train wreck or it would have even less, but still the numbers are going in the wrong way and it would be stupid to chase customers away casually.

I just dont talk on the chat voxs. Other then a WTG or something like that. Makes things easy.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: FLS on August 25, 2011, 06:27:09 PM
I don't think so. You can always mute them again upon reoffense. It doesn't seem that hard to do.

If one day doesn't do the trick with one player, slap on another, then another until he stops whatever he's doing. I have a hard time believing most players won't get the message after one day. Heck, I got the message after 10 minutes, 7 or so years ago when I was muted for just one word.

It seems that the message you got the first time was that you'll get a short mute that you don't really mind.  You want to continue with short mutes that you are willing to endure in exchange for breaking the rules. What you got this time was a longer mute that you clearly want to avoid in the future. Perhaps you'll discover a degree of self control that you didn't realize you were capable of.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 25, 2011, 06:35:33 PM
Yeah, thats brilliant. It would give players one month to play other games and stew over being ripped off 15 bucks for saying what 10 other players just got away with. Ive seen individuals say all kinds of stuff on chat and get away with it. Aces High has less then 1/2 the K/Ds it had at the height of its popularity. Lucky for them IL2 COD is a train wreck or it would have even less, but still the numbers are going in the wrong way and it would be stupid to chase customers away casually.

I just dont talk on the chat voxs. Other then a WTG or something like that. Makes things easy.
it was a joke...
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Rich52 on August 25, 2011, 08:20:16 PM
it was a joke...

Ah, I see. Disregard please then. :salute
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 25, 2011, 08:23:18 PM
Ah, I see. Disregard please then. :salute
:salute all's good.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 25, 2011, 09:02:00 PM
It seems that the message you got the first time was that you'll get a short mute that you don't really mind.  You want to continue with short mutes that you are willing to endure in exchange for breaking the rules.

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

The "short mute" I got was something like 7 years ago. Never had a problem since then.

This time I got no warning at all. In fact, I wasn't even told (and still haven't been) how long my "chat privileges have been suspended". I'm assuming it's for a week as that's what I've heard elsewhere.

I don't play the game trying to figure out how to get around all the rules, as you seem to suggest I or others do, aside from all the cheat codes I use.  :lol

Private joke for Midwar guys that last phrase.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: soda72 on August 25, 2011, 10:21:52 PM
Now if only they would extend it for another 3 weeks for whining about it on the BBS...

 :lol

Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: FLS on August 25, 2011, 11:25:20 PM
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

The "short mute" I got was something like 7 years ago. Never had a problem since then.

This time I got no warning at all. In fact, I wasn't even told (and still haven't been) how long my "chat privileges have been suspended". I'm assuming it's for a week as that's what I've heard elsewhere.



I thought you were complaining about being muted for a week. I didn't realize it was a hypothetical complaint.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: SIK1 on August 25, 2011, 11:26:26 PM
Now if only they would extend it for another 3 weeks for whining about it on the BBS...

 :lol



+1
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: VonMessa on August 26, 2011, 12:16:21 AM
I thought there was an 60 minute automute triggered by mass reporting that does not require a moderator to be present.

No single player can mute another (without being a mod).


Fixed  :aok
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Max on August 26, 2011, 06:36:38 AM

I don't play the game trying to figure out how to get around all the rules, as you seem to suggest I or others do, aside from all the cheat codes I use.  :lol

Private joke for Midwar guys that last phrase.

Wanna get muted here as well?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 26, 2011, 09:17:41 AM
It seems that the message you got the first time was that you'll get a short mute that you don't really mind.  You want to continue with short mutes that you are willing to endure in exchange for breaking the rules. What you got this time was a longer mute that you clearly want to avoid in the future. Perhaps you'll discover a degree of self control that you didn't realize you were capable of.

You honestly think that someone remembered that he had been muted 7 years ago, looked up the records, and decided he was a repeat offender?  :rofl    You guys scare me  :O

In any case, one week mute is too long and causes unnecessary work for everyone.  Meaning, if I got muted for an hour or a day and thought it was unfairly, I m not going to bother calling or emailing HT to look it up.  If I get muted for a week and thought it was unfair, I have to email or call HT (waste of my time), they have to look it up and make a decision (waste of their time).  It is pointless knowing that the decisions are made by humans and therefore the rules and severity of the offense are not calculated or interpreted the same for every one (even the same person) all the time.  It is just not possible.  Repeat offenders yeah, do what you think you must do, but for a single offense, common now.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 26, 2011, 09:35:18 AM
Thanks, Dedalos.

And those of you that think it just affects the one muted, it can affect others in the game as well.

I've had a number of people who didn't know I was muted text me various things over the last few days. A few asked me for tactical information such as whether I'd found any gvs in town or outside a vbase. Not only could I not relay requested info, I couldn't even tell them I couldn't tell them.

And that's goes on an entire week for one slip up.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: VonMessa on August 26, 2011, 09:56:24 AM
Thanks, Dedalos.

And those of you that think it just affects the one muted, it can affect others in the game as well.

I've had a number of people who didn't know I was muted text me various things over the last few days. A few asked me for tactical information such as whether I'd found any gvs in town or outside a vbase. Not only could I not relay requested info, I couldn't even tell them I couldn't tell them.

And that's goes on an entire week for one slip up.

Sometime when one acts like a dick, one screws one's buddies, as well..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=rasZzenuYxI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=rasZzenuYxI)
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: RTHolmes on August 26, 2011, 09:59:17 AM
yup, you spoilt your own game experience, and you also let your teammates down ...
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: The Fugitive on August 26, 2011, 12:22:35 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 26, 2011, 12:26:59 PM
wow  :rofl  Anyone proposing for the death penalty yet?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: captain1ma on August 26, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
death penalty!?? much to harsh, now public caning? that might do the trick and its not cruel and unusual!
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: 68ZooM on August 26, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
wow  :rofl  Anyone proposing for the death penalty yet?

i think that might be slated for page 12 or so, guess will wait and see  :rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 26, 2011, 02:04:05 PM
death penalty!?? much to harsh, now public caning? that might do the trick and its not cruel and unusual!

Excellent, it would provide some entertainment until page 12 comes around   :lol
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 26, 2011, 02:05:53 PM
I feel like if someone had gotten sentenced to 50 years in prison for stealing a pack of batteries from the grocery store the same crowd would be in here saying things like, "You shouldn't have stolen the batteries, deal with it" and "I've never been arrested for stealing batteries".
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: betty on August 26, 2011, 02:23:33 PM
rule #1 don't be a dick

wow.....
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Zoney on August 26, 2011, 02:29:13 PM
wow.....

We miss you Betty.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Shuffler on August 26, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
Well as far as stealing..... if there were stiffer penalties, ones without chance of early release, there would most likely be less theft.

Initially this would load the prisons more but eventualy there would be less inmates.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 26, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
I feel like if someone had gotten sentenced to 50 years in prison for stealing a pack of batteries from the grocery store the same crowd would be in here saying things like, "You shouldn't have stolen the batteries, deal with it" and "I've never been arrested for stealing batteries".

Exactly. That's what I find frightening about so many of these responses.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: betty on August 26, 2011, 02:36:23 PM
We miss you Betty.

actually im back just haven't been on since last friday lol....  :salute :joystick: :airplane:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 26, 2011, 02:44:24 PM
I feel like if someone had gotten sentenced to 50 years in prison for stealing a pack of batteries from the grocery store the same crowd would be in here saying things like, "You shouldn't have stolen the batteries, deal with it" and "I've never been arrested for stealing batteries".

And you know, those are the same guys that have found batteries after they fallen of the truck  :lol
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Shuffler on August 26, 2011, 02:45:03 PM
actually im back just haven't been on since last friday lol....  :salute :joystick: :airplane:

Well get back in the air so we can not miss you :D
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 26, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
Well as far as stealing..... if there were stiffer penalties, ones without chance of early release, there would most likely be less theft.

Initially this would load the prisons more but eventualy there would be less inmates.

Thx for proving my point.  :D
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 26, 2011, 03:22:03 PM
Well as far as stealing..... if there were stiffer penalties, ones without chance of early release, there would most likely be less theft.

Initially this would load the prisons more but eventualy there would be less inmates.

Yes, and if speeding was punishable by 10 years in jail, there would never be any accidents right?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: AWwrgwy on August 26, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
Yes, and if speeding was punishable by 10 years in jail, there would never be any accidents right?

No drivers.



wrongway
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: FLS on August 26, 2011, 03:37:39 PM
You only get a week's mute if you were muted in the previous 7 days. Just saying...   :devil
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: The Fugitive on August 26, 2011, 04:10:21 PM
If you understand that the penalty is very stiff, only an idiot would step over the line . Steal some batteries and get  life would certainly stop battery theft. As long as there are clear.rules and punishments for them I'm ok with that. Of course being one of those.people.who.follow.the.r ules.instead of bending them I wouldn't see.a.problem with it.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: TwinBoom on August 26, 2011, 04:13:06 PM
If you understand that the penalty is very stiff, only an idiot would step over the line . Steal some batteries and get  life would certainly stop battery theft. As long as there are clear.rules and punishments for them I'm ok with that. Of course being one of those.people.who.follow.the.r ules.instead of bending them I wouldn't see.a.problem with it.


 :rofl im an idiot from time to time
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 26, 2011, 04:30:16 PM
If you understand that the penalty is very stiff, only an idiot would step over the line . Steal some batteries and get  life would certainly stop battery theft. As long as there are clear.rules and punishments for them I'm ok with that. Of course being one of those.people.who.follow.the.r ules.instead of bending them I wouldn't see.a.problem with it.


I agree.  Can we please move on to the death penalty?  The weekend is here and I can't wait for page 12.  Lets schedule the execution of xtiger in the MA at 12 noon tomorrow?  Free popcorn with the purchase of a ticket.  Front row 50$ (free drink included), second row and back 20$ (no drink).  Kids are welcome and free to witness the demise of this repeat offender (and learn a valuable lesson in the process).

Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Oldman731 on August 26, 2011, 05:49:23 PM
If you understand that the penalty is very stiff, only an idiot would step over the line .


....um....we have those....

- oldman (hey, in real life, too!)
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 26, 2011, 07:58:11 PM
You only get a week's mute if you were muted in the previous 7 days. Just saying...   :devil

Wrong. I haven't been muted or even warned in probably 7 years.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Butcher on August 26, 2011, 08:17:04 PM
Wrong. I haven't been muted or even warned in probably 7 years.

Then you must of said something that warrants a week long ban.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 27, 2011, 07:39:10 AM
I don't think so. I understand another Midwar regular got text banned for a week a little while ago just for using the bs word.

Hey, looks like here's two more guys that think a week is too much for a simple first time infraction! :aok
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: FLS on August 27, 2011, 08:05:51 AM
I don't think so. I understand another Midwar regular got text banned for a week a little while ago just for using the bs word.

Hey, looks like here's two more guys that think a week is too much for a simple first time infraction! :aok

No. I just think that's how the auto mute is coded from looking at the arena settings.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: fuzeman on August 27, 2011, 12:41:54 PM
<snip>
Hey, looks like here's two more guys that think a week is too much for a simple first time infraction! :aok

Quite frankly, your opinion doesn't matter in HiTech's house, HIS does.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: 68ZooM on August 27, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
I don't think so. I understand another Midwar regular got text banned for a week a little while ago just for using the bs word.

Hey, looks like here's two more guys that think a week is too much for a simple first time infraction! :aok

are you done crying yet or are we going to get a daily dose untill the ban is over?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 27, 2011, 12:59:47 PM
are you done crying yet or are we going to get a daily dose untill the ban is over?

I'd say this thread is just like Channel 200 in Late War: If you don't like it, don't tune to it.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Tordon22 on August 27, 2011, 01:09:18 PM
Chat ban = 1 week

Idiocy = FOR LIFE


I feel like you have bigger fish to fry.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: 68ZooM on August 27, 2011, 02:03:08 PM
I'd say this thread is just like Channel 200 in Late War: If you don't like it, don't tune to it.

 i understand you cried in MW on 200 and got a ban, so now you bring the cry here, like ch 200 in MW.  Gotcha Champ  :aok 
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 27, 2011, 02:24:33 PM
i understand you cried in MW on 200 and got a ban, so now you bring the cry here, like ch 200 in MW.  Gotcha Champ  :aok 
:rofl :aok
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xtyger on August 27, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
i understand you cried in MW on 200 and got a ban, so now you bring the cry here, like ch 200 in MW.  Gotcha Champ  :aok 

Nobody uses Channel 200 in MidWar. We have an "All" channel there.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Butcher on August 27, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
i understand you cried in MW on 200 and got a ban, so now you bring the cry here, like ch 200 in MW.  Gotcha Champ  :aok 

Can't wait till school starts again, I had my 1 week ban for saying something negative towards a squad mate on country channel (If you know Projoee the way I know him, its pretty common knowledge about the film Deliverance)

Yeah, lets just say I had no idea the chat police went nuts on crackdown of "immature behavior" - either way a week isn't that long, go play WoW or something where you can get away with using symbols like !@#$%^&*()

Or a nice game of Go Fish, can't argue during that game :P
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: VonMessa on August 27, 2011, 05:04:16 PM
Can't wait till school starts again, I had my 1 week ban for saying something negative towards a squad mate on country channel (If you know Projoee the way I know him, its pretty common knowledge about the film Deliverance)

Yeah, lets just say I had no idea the chat police went nuts on crackdown of "immature behavior" - either way a week isn't that long, go play WoW or something where you can get away with using symbols like !@#$%^&*()

Or a nice game of Go Fish, can't argue during that game :P

Go fish yourself  :P
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Butcher on August 27, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
Go fish yourself  :P

Do you have a Jack?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: VonMessa on August 27, 2011, 08:46:29 PM
Do you have a Jack?

Indeed I do !

Will this work?

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Jeep/Body%20Lift/100_2092.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: captain1ma on August 29, 2011, 08:40:00 AM
I agree.  Can we please move on to the death penalty?  The weekend is here and I can't wait for page 12.  Lets schedule the execution of xtiger in the MA at 12 noon tomorrow?  Free popcorn with the purchase of a ticket.  Front row 50$ (free drink included), second row and back 20$ (no drink).  Kids are welcome and free to witness the demise of this repeat offender (and learn a valuable lesson in the process).



if you chop his hand off, he cant hit the button, to say something stupid, therefore he wouldn't need to be executed. it would save alot of money in the long run on appeals. of course his friends(assuming he has some) would call him stumpy and there's always the cost of a prosthetic. it would be much cheaper in the long run.

caning would be even better because then he couldn't sit down for a week so a week long chat ban wouldn't even be necessary, although i could be wrong.

now execution would be tricky, because what method would you use? lethal injection is kind of messy. electrocution is inhumane. i would opt for either the guillotine or nitrogen gas, but thats just me.

 :D

Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 29, 2011, 09:37:44 AM
of course his friends(assuming he has some)


Reading this thread I think we don;t have to worry about his "friends"  :lol

However, you do bring up a good point about the execution.  I would recommend caning until page 12.  After that we should proceed with the execution.  HT should set a flag in tygers log in so that he spawns right in the middle of a vulch/spawn camping fest for a week.  Every one in the game would automatically spawn at tygers location and would be required to shoot him at list one time (this way no one will know who the guy that actually killed him was).
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: captain1ma on August 29, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
sounds like a very fair, equitable, and logical solution!  :O
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on August 29, 2011, 09:54:02 AM


Again: My point is more the length of the suspension. The muting was fair enough. It was a stupid and unnecessary comment and it was foolish for me to make, although the guy did deserve it. :lol

Many years ago, just after I first started playing, I got muted for 10 minutes for texting the bs word. Fair enough and point made. They didn't hit me for a week. I'm not suggesting they go back to 10 minutes but I would think a day should suffice.


Haaaaaw, haaaaaw, haaaaw... Didn't like that, huh? Gunning for more, are you?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 29, 2011, 10:00:49 AM
sounds like a very fair, equitable, and logical solution!  :O

Just like everything else in this thread  :old:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Dragon on August 29, 2011, 12:04:46 PM
This thread makes my head hurt in a mildly erotic sorta way.


 :noid
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 29, 2011, 12:13:55 PM
This thread makes my head hurt in a mildly erotic sorta way.


 :noid
:rofl  mind if i use that as my sig?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Dragon on August 29, 2011, 01:01:34 PM
:rofl  mind if i use that as my sig?

Nope
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Shuffler on August 29, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
Yes, and if speeding was punishable by 10 years in jail, there would never be any accidents right?

I'd say most accidents happen without speeding being an issue.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 29, 2011, 01:52:48 PM
I'd say most accidents happen without speeding being an issue.

What?  Are you implying that a rule maybe wrong or not 100% correct?  I ll schedule you 15 minutes after tygers execution.

I think if we all did 5 to 10mph the number of fatal accidents would be near 0.  Lets go for it!!!!
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on August 29, 2011, 02:02:13 PM
I'd say most accidents happen without speeding being an issue.

I'd say at least not the causal issue. Alcohol, drowsiness, texting, and plain stupidity, otoh...

I always just try to drive so that people award me poikies for being a biotch.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 29, 2011, 02:09:17 PM
I'd say at least not the causal issue. Alcohol, drowsiness, texting, and plain stupidity, otoh...


Sooooo, have you ever been guilty of any of the above?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on August 29, 2011, 02:20:44 PM
Sooooo, have you ever been guilty of any of the above?

Of course. My youth featured wome wrinkled sheetmetal. I suffered for it - as I should've. That's why I don't make mistakes like that now.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: xbrit on August 29, 2011, 04:26:29 PM
I'd say most accidents happen without speeding being an issue.
Main cause of accidents is no contraception........
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Shuffler on August 29, 2011, 05:08:38 PM
What?  Are you implying that a rule maybe wrong or not 100% correct?  I ll schedule you 15 minutes after tygers execution.

I think if we all did 5 to 10mph the number of fatal accidents would be near 0.  Lets go for it!!!!

No.... then folks would try to cross before your slowmobile got there...... getting smashed by another quiet slomobile.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: The Fugitive on August 29, 2011, 07:52:47 PM
In the 35 years I've been licensed to drive I've had 3 accidents and weather was the factor in all of them. 2 were under 5 mph in snow and ice, and 1 under 35 mph in pouring rain. In all cases I was below the posted speed limit. Rules are made with a purpose. If everyone followed the rules there wouldn't be any issues. Issues arise when those who think they are above the rules seek to twist and bend them to suit themselves. 
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: G0ALY on August 29, 2011, 08:49:15 PM
Stop playing the victim, and TAKE CHARGE!

If you feel a one week suspension is unjust and unreasonable, then do something about it! Cancel your membership for one month… Yeah, that will show them!

They may have silenced you for one week… But you, yes YOU, silenced the rest of them for an additional three weeks! WINNING!
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on August 30, 2011, 06:53:59 AM
I'd go even further. You should climb a tree and live in your own feces until you get justice! A one week suspicion is very likely sufficent justification to go smash a window and grab a nice 51" Sammy, maybe a new pair of Nikes. I'd at least call 911 and tell them that "HiTechler is all being against" you and stuff. Then chuck your shake in the window operator's face while you film it and post that to YouTube. There are so many ways to get involved in the cause of social justice. You guys are so kewl.

Disclaimer: Do not commit any of these acts. Some are felonies, others are unsanitary or hazardous.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 30, 2011, 09:02:25 AM
In the 35 years I've been licensed to drive I've had 3 accidents and weather was the factor in all of them. 2 were under 5 mph in snow and ice, and 1 under 35 mph in pouring rain. In all cases I was below the posted speed limit. Rules are made with a purpose. If everyone followed the rules there wouldn't be any issues. Issues arise when those who think they are above the rules seek to twist and bend them to suit themselves. 

You were following the rules and still got in accidents and the you go on to say that if everyone followed the rules there wouldn't be any issues?  So, how come you had an issue?  Were the rules wrong or where you breaking them?

Thinking that everything is perfect is naive.  The rules you speak of may have been created for a reason but I bet you they have been modified and fine tuned as needed through time, right?  This is the case here.  No one is questioning the rule.  Only the length of the punishment.

Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on August 30, 2011, 11:58:31 AM
You were following the rules and still got in accidents and the you go on to say that if everyone followed the rules there wouldn't be any issues?  So, how come you had an issue?  Were the rules wrong or where you breaking them?

I was going to be polite and not badger the good man on this apparent contradiction. However, as long as you've already got the bandwagon rolling, I'll go ahead and help supply some exhaust ducting in to the cabin.

Fugi's entire screed there reminds me a bit (not saying Fugi IS or IS NOT, just saying his screed REMINDS ME) of the character in Les Mis who pursues "wrongdoers" not out of a sense of justice or even because he thinks they deserve it but because it's the law. He is miserable himself and seeks to make his company likewise. He's a kind of puritanical character in the sense that he seems overly concerned that some sunny beach might be out there enjoying himself.

Why does Fugi's screed remind me of that character? PErhaps its the reliance on rules... not sure. It probably has little to do with who the man is himself.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Shuffler on August 30, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
I was going to be polite and not badger the good man on this apparent contradiction. However, as long as you've already got the bandwagon rolling, I'll go ahead and help supply some exhaust ducting in to the cabin.

Fugi's entire screed there reminds me a bit (not saying Fugi IS or IS NOT, just saying his screed REMINDS ME) of the character in Les Mis who pursues "wrongdoers" not out of a sense of justice or even because he thinks they deserve it but because it's the law. He is miserable himself and seeks to make his company likewise. He's a kind of puritanical character in the sense that he seems overly concerned that some sunny beach might be out there enjoying himself.

Why does Fugi's screed remind me of that character? PErhaps its the reliance on rules... not sure. It probably has little to do with who the man is himself.

Without rules we could not exist. Too many idiots.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Wiley on August 30, 2011, 01:48:07 PM
Without rules we could not exist. Too many idiots.

But just for a while, couldn't we try it?  Say 1 or 2 years without any warning labels on anything?  If you don't know enough not to shower with your hairdryer, maybe you're part of the problem?  Sure, the hospitals and morgues would be busy for a while, but then afterwards, mightn't the human race be a bit better off?

Wiley.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 30, 2011, 02:11:41 PM
Without rules we could not exist. Too many idiots.

Oh, I am with you on that one.  Problem is, too many idiots making rules ( and I am not talking about AH so don;t even go there).  I think we call them politicians, government, people we hire to protect us, etc.  Some times a rule needs a little change to make it better.  Nothing is the best right out of the box and sometimes it is just wrong.  Do I need to post a list of rules that at one time they were the right thing to do (and according to fugi everything was fine) but now days you would end up in jail if you followed them?  Imagine the world if rules never changed  :O
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on August 30, 2011, 03:33:27 PM
Without rules we could not exist. Too many idiots.

Agreed - not my issue.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on August 30, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
But just for a while, couldn't we try it?  Say 1 or 2 years without any warning labels on anything?  If you don't know enough not to shower with your hairdryer, maybe you're part of the problem?  Sure, the hospitals and morgues would be busy for a while, but then afterwards, mightn't the human race be a bit better off?

Wiley.

Well, he didn't qualify, did he. See, a limited set of rules tends to have a winnowing effect, thus sharpening the breed. That we need some, however, is clear.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 30, 2011, 05:00:31 PM
Ohhhh, he is so close to page 12 he must be sweating bullets by now.  Muahahahahahahha.  Get the rope  :old:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: 68ZooM on August 30, 2011, 07:30:42 PM
i sense a disturbance and the crowd grows impatient  :O

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/lots-of-people.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: The Fugitive on August 30, 2011, 09:09:32 PM
You were following the rules and still got in accidents and the you go on to say that if everyone followed the rules there wouldn't be any issues?  So, how come you had an issue?  Were the rules wrong or where you breaking them?

Thinking that everything is perfect is naive.  The rules you speak of may have been created for a reason but I bet you they have been modified and fine tuned as needed through time, right?  This is the case here.  No one is questioning the rule.  Only the length of the punishment.



Well you can go ahead and twist things around as you will, your very good at it.

The point is there is a rule, the OP was aware of the rule as he said he had been hit before. So by being an idiot he breaks the rule again and then complains about his punishment. All I'm saying is you break the rule you take the punishment, what ever it is, because its the rule.

Me, I've been here for ten years and have NEVER lost text or VOX privileges. I know the rule, and whether I think it's fair or not its the rule. So I know what I can say, and what I can't. I don't see any reason to push the limits. When I get to the point the OP was at I take a break, or squelch the bigger idiots. I don't see why there should even be a discussion on this rule. The point of the punishment is to deter someone from stepping over the line. It works with me, as I haven't stepped over the line. Some people are slow learners, but that doesn't mean they should be given a break.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: 100Coogn on August 30, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Main cause of accidents is no contraception........

That may be.  Didn't have a whole lot of that in the 60's.  I was conceived while my parents were on some mind altering stuff, and Joplin was playing in the background.
Couldn't have a better life.

oh look a metallic butterfly   :rolleyes:

Coogan
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Oldman731 on August 30, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
That may be.  Didn't have a whole lot of that in the 60's.  I was conceived while my parents were on some mind altering stuff, and Joplin was playing in the background.
Couldn't have a better life.



"The 60s are gone, dope will never be as cheap, sex never as free, and the rock and roll never as great."

- Abbie Hoffman
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: VonMessa on August 30, 2011, 10:42:33 PM


"The 60s are gone, dope will never be as cheap, sex never as free, and the rock and roll never as great."

- Abbie Hoffman

True, true and true.   :aok
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 31, 2011, 08:48:51 AM
Well you can go ahead and twist things around as you will, your very good at it.

The point is there is a rule, the OP was aware of the rule as he said he had been hit before. So by being an idiot he breaks the rule again and then complains about his punishment. All I'm saying is you break the rule you take the punishment, what ever it is, because its the rule.

Me, I've been here for ten years and have NEVER lost text or VOX privileges. I know the rule, and whether I think it's fair or not its the rule. So I know what I can say, and what I can't. I don't see any reason to push the limits. When I get to the point the OP was at I take a break, or squelch the bigger idiots. I don't see why there should even be a discussion on this rule. The point of the punishment is to deter someone from stepping over the line. It works with me, as I haven't stepped over the line. Some people are slow learners, but that doesn't mean they should be given a break.

Nah, you are twisting what this discussion is about.  It is about the length of the punishment, not the rule itself.  Now, how many rules did you break by calling him and others idiots in your post?  What should the punishment be?  My guess is non because the rules are subject to interpretation.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 31, 2011, 10:13:44 AM
Fugi if one got text muted for life for a first offense would that be okay with you since it doesn't affect you? 

If you can at least admit there is a "reasonable punishment" for an infraction then some common ground can be found.  Arguments over ideology without at least attempting to quantify them are pointless.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: betty on August 31, 2011, 10:18:49 AM
ok...i dont get it, so u got chat suspension...who cares!! learn from it and move on. you shouldn't do the crime if u can't do the time! i used to get warnings on a daily basis! its been a few years for me now, guess u can say that i learned my lesson :)


now stop whinin and go fly a plane!!!  :joystick: :joystick: :airplane: :airplane: :banana: :rock
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 31, 2011, 11:00:08 AM
Fugi if one got text muted for life for a first offense would that be okay with you since it doesn't affect you? 

If you can at least admit there is a "reasonable punishment" for an infraction then some common ground can be found.  Arguments over ideology without at least attempting to quantify them are pointless.

Shhhhh, I hear he can walk on water  :old:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Dragon on August 31, 2011, 12:19:19 PM
WOW, I never would have imagined this thread living as long as the suspension.   :banana:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 31, 2011, 12:24:43 PM
Shhhhh, I hear he can walk on water  :old:

Will Fugitive answer my question?  My guess is no, because it will damage his purely ideological stance on this issue.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Wiley on August 31, 2011, 12:38:39 PM
Will Fugitive answer my question?  My guess is no, because it will damage his purely ideological stance on this issue.

7 days, maybe too long, not worth the effort of creating this completely ineffective thread though.  Don't know, don't care.

12th page though... Death is the only appropriate punishment!!!

Wiley.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 31, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
7 days, maybe too long, not worth the effort of creating this completely ineffective thread though.  Don't know, don't care.

12th page though... Death is the only appropriate punishment!!!

Wiley.

Yep, the time has come.  Any last words tyger?
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: The Fugitive on August 31, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
Fugi if one got text muted for life for a first offense would that be okay with you since it doesn't affect you? 

If you can at least admit there is a "reasonable punishment" for an infraction then some common ground can be found.  Arguments over ideology without at least attempting to quantify them are pointless.

Yes it would fine, but it does effects me the same as it effects everyone.

The rule is " mind your manners or you get chat suspended for a week/ life". Personally I'd be on my best behavior like I am now. Others like to push the rules. Some take their punishment when caught, other whine and try to get the rules changed.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 31, 2011, 12:48:34 PM
Yes it would fine, but it does effects me the same as it effects everyone.

The rule is " mind your manners or you get chat suspended for a week/ life". Personally I'd be on my best behavior like I am now. Others like to push the rules. Some take their punishment when caught, other whine and try to get the rules changed.

Oh wow.  :rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 31, 2011, 12:51:49 PM
You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

See Rule #4

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 31, 2011, 01:09:29 PM
You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.

 :rofl

 Is the search function working yet?  :O
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Wiley on August 31, 2011, 01:20:01 PM
:rofl

 Is the search function working yet?  :O

Yep.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 31, 2011, 01:49:28 PM
Yep.

Wiley.

Yes it does  :rofl 
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 31, 2011, 01:54:18 PM
You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.
grizz, who are you to determine idiocy on the BBS? you would have to be an idiot to do so... :headscratch:


 :banana:
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: The Fugitive on August 31, 2011, 02:35:28 PM
You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.

If that was the rule, yes. But its not.   :D

Say the speed limit is 65, I know if I'm caught going faster there is a ticket and fine. I also know that around here if your only 5 miles an hour over they will let you slid. After driving over a million miles I have gotten 2 tickets. Have paid the fine without contesting it. Why? Because both times I was guilty of speeding. Did I think the $100 fine was fair, hell no! But I paid it because that's the rule and I was guilty.

I don't see what's so hard to understand.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 31, 2011, 02:41:44 PM
If that was the rule, yes. But its not.   :D

Say the speed limit is 65, I know if I'm caught going faster there is a ticket and fine. I also know that around here if your only 5 miles an hour over they will let you slid. After driving over a million miles I have gotten 2 tickets. Have paid the fine without contesting it. Why? Because both times I was guilty of speeding. Did I think the $100 fine was fair, hell no! But I paid it because that's the rule and I was guilty.

I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does it anywhere specify the punishment for getting muted?  You are assuming the perpetrator has access to the punishments for a crime that he may commit.  I don't see how your speeding example is that same thing, since you know what the fine for speeding is.

That's besides the point though.  Punishment should be a fair reflection of the crime committed.  If they cut off your hands for speeding, sure you wouldn't ever do it, but would it be fair?  Hell no.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Tyrannis on August 31, 2011, 02:49:14 PM
Kitty, from the way you speak in MW, Your chat suspension should be alot longer.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Wiley on August 31, 2011, 02:53:41 PM
That's besides the point though.  Punishment should be a fair reflection of the crime committed.  If they cut off your hands for speeding, sure you wouldn't ever do it, but would it be fair?  Hell no.

...chat privileges in an online game suspended for (possibly) too long in the offender's opinion.
vs
...permanent maining and disability for speeding.

Grizz, I realize you're trolling/devil's advocating here, but that's a bit excessive, innit?

People showing their backsides on the channels run the risk of getting smacked.  Why is that such a bad thing?

Wiley.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 31, 2011, 02:58:46 PM
Grizz, I realize you're trolling/devil's advocating here, but that's a bit excessive, innit?

Not at all.  Fugi is arguing from a purely ideological standpoint, and completely dismissing the relationship a crime and punishment share.  So if he refuses to acknowledge it, I must start at an extreme to show him how ridiculous his ideological stance is.  Once he realizes this, common ground can be established in regards to what a fair punishment actually is.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 31, 2011, 03:02:56 PM
If that was the rule, yes. But its not.   :D

Say the speed limit is 65, I know if I'm caught going faster there is a ticket and fine. I also know that around here if your only 5 miles an hour over they will let you slid. After driving over a million miles I have gotten 2 tickets. Have paid the fine without contesting it. Why? Because both times I was guilty of speeding. Did I think the $100 fine was fair, hell no! But I paid it because that's the rule and I was guilty.

I don't see what's so hard to understand.

So, if the fine was $1,000 you would not question the amount?  Even in conversations with your friends?  

And after everything you said about the people that try to bend the rules, you go on to tell us you yourself have no regard for them and break them?  The fact that you have 2 tickets means that you disregarded those rules, how many times?  Obviously you got away with it a few times before they got you right?  Holly hypocrisy Batman   :old:  Or is it only a crime if you get caught?  

Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Dragon on August 31, 2011, 03:07:13 PM
As to knowing the cost of a ticket before getting one, it isn't written anywhere accessible as to what the total is going to cost, so the offender really has no idea what the damage will be.

On that note, $100 to some is a hell of a lot of money, to some it's pocket change.  

A 1 week mute to me would make almost no difference since I only average 5 hours of game time.  To others who play more, it is much more punishing.

 



Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: grizz441 on August 31, 2011, 03:08:30 PM
 Obviously you got away with it a few times before they got you right?  Holly hypocrisy Batman   :old:  Or is it only a crime if you get caught?  

I'm sure there is an excuse for why a rule was broken.  There was a reduce speed ahead zone and he couldn't slow down in time because his cute kitten had managed its way underneath his break pedal.  Yeah, he chose to break the law in lieu of crushing his poor kitten with the force of a break pedal being thrust down, but anyone with a heart would have done the same.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: skorpion on August 31, 2011, 03:10:50 PM
I'm sure there is an excuse for why a rule was broken.  There was a reduce speed ahead zone and he couldn't slow down in time because his cute kitten had managed its way underneath his break pedal.  Yeah, he chose to break the law in lieu of crushing his poor kitten with the force of a break pedal being thrust down, but anyone with a heart would have done the same.
i would have snapped that kittens back in half then shoved it into the dirt...but yes, there is always an excuse for the rule being broken. whatever got you muted is the excuse.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: lyric1 on August 31, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
13 pages. :aok
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Wiley on August 31, 2011, 03:34:04 PM
13 pages. :aok

*sigh* and still no lynching...  I am disappoint.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on August 31, 2011, 03:37:22 PM
13 pages. :aok

Whats worse is that I might have missed the execution.  The kids were really exited about watching it.  Now what am I going to tell them  :(
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: The Fugitive on August 31, 2011, 05:13:59 PM
Grizz Im not talking any ideology here, Im taking about a rule EVERYONE knows that if you step out of line and get caught you WILL get your chat and vox privileges suspended. If you choose..like the OP did to push those limits it's with the knowledge that you CAN lose the privilege, and if caught most certainly WILL lose the privilege. The amount isn't important to me. Like I said in my tickets story I pay my fine if Im guilty. If the fine was $1000, there wouldn't have been a second ticket dedalos  :P . Both tickets were years ago when I was young a foolish. Today I know there is no need to speed, and it takes as long as it takes to get from point A to point B.

I was brought up to "do whats right". That means helping little old ladies, holding doors for women, not cussing in mixed company...even if the women are to ones with the dirtyest mouths, and following the rules.  Both of my speeding tickets were willing working for the vending company I work for. I was trying to get to machines that were free vending, or unlocked to save the company the loss. That is why I see no problem with a 7 day mute, I have heard of longer ones, and it also why I don't see a reason to change the length of the punishment. The rule is the rule.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Babalonian on August 31, 2011, 05:38:25 PM
Grizz Im not talking any ideology here, Im taking about a rule EVERYONE knows that if you step out of line and get caught you WILL get your chat and vox privileges suspended. If you choose..like the OP did to push those limits it's with the knowledge that you CAN lose the privilege, and if caught most certainly WILL lose the privilege. The amount isn't important to me. Like I said in my tickets story I pay my fine if Im guilty. If the fine was $1000, there wouldn't have been a second ticket dedalos  :P . Both tickets were years ago when I was young a foolish. Today I know there is no need to speed, and it takes as long as it takes to get from point A to point B.

I was brought up to "do whats right". That means helping little old ladies, holding doors for women, not cussing in mixed company...even if the women are to ones with the dirtyest mouths, and following the rules.  Both of my speeding tickets were willing working for the vending company I work for. I was trying to get to machines that were free vending, or unlocked to save the company the loss. That is why I see no problem with a 7 day mute, I have heard of longer ones, and it also why I don't see a reason to change the length of the punishment. The rule is the rule.


Trust me, you'll get caught.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Stellaris on August 31, 2011, 07:15:14 PM
Social rules are highly local.  For example, I wouldn't insult my female colleagues by refraining from swearing with them around.  Although of course, I do for my aunts.  Same same opening doors.  Doing it for a random granny is polite, doing it for someone younger than myself (other than if they're carrying something or following me through a door) is borderline creepy.

And chat-banning the verbally over-aggressive is just fine with me.  Make it a month.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on September 01, 2011, 05:17:40 AM
*sigh* and still no lynching...  I am disappoint.

Wiley.

We're working on it, the latest candidate being Fugi, for his failure to acknowledge the proportionality principle of punishment. I'm still rooting for Tyger, though, because this is a squeak thread, after all.

Better: both... with stones.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on September 01, 2011, 05:20:03 AM
I wouldn't insult my female colleagues by refraining from swearing with them around. 

Me neither. I turn it up extr-y for 'em, just to watch 'em cringe every time I say something.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Wiley on September 01, 2011, 10:34:24 AM
Alright!  The thread has officially lasted longer than the punishment.  I think we're done here.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dedalos on September 01, 2011, 10:44:27 AM
Alright!  The thread has officially lasted longer than the punishment.  I think we're done here.

Wiley.

What?  No post-execution celebrations?  :O
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: Shuffler on September 01, 2011, 10:51:19 AM
 :aok for fourteen
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: SlapShot on September 01, 2011, 01:21:49 PM
:aok for fourteen

I only see 2 pages ...
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: morfiend on September 01, 2011, 05:49:40 PM
I only see 2 pages ...


 Same here slap!       Hey Slap did you hear about the woman who backed into a fan,she was a disaster!





   :salute
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: 68ZooM on September 01, 2011, 07:12:47 PM

 Same here slap!       Hey Slap did you hear about the woman who backed into a fan,she was a disaster!





   :salute

Speaking of...... during the early 90's when Pagers were the "in thing" my son and i were standing in line at the checkout stand there was a rather large framed women one person ahead of us.  well her pager went off, rather loudly at that then my son turns to me and goes " Look out Dad she's backing up "  oh Gawd i about died after he let that out. the lady chuckled realizing that a 6 year old said it  :rofl
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: dunnrite on September 01, 2011, 09:19:18 PM
That was played out a decade ago.
Title: Re: Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long
Post by: mesen256 on September 03, 2011, 07:58:33 PM
Speaking of...... during the early 90's when Pagers were the "in thing" my son and i were standing in line at the checkout stand there was a rather large framed women one person ahead of us.  well her pager went off, rather loudly at that then my son turns to me and goes " Look out Dad she's backing up "  oh Gawd i about died after he let that out. the lady chuckled realizing that a 6 year old said it  :rofl

My cousin did that with my grandpa at the store. Although, that lady wasn't too happy with it...she thought my grandpa put him up to it.  :rofl