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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: NikonGuy on May 19, 2014, 04:21:14 AM
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Spent a lot of the day fighting with an ENY of between 5 and 27 because some of our rook friends have decided to not log off.
I would love to see a rule where if you are inactive for more than an hour then you are automatically disconnected.
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2vw8gvl.jpg)
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I'd get booted all the time.
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I shoulda put this in the wish list forum .. :P
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Only players in flight should count toward ENY...
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Only players in flight should count toward ENY...
Which could eman that mass horde missions could easily get around ENY restirictions. Everybody lands and get to tower, ENY drops by a huge amount, then the mission auto launches.
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If they all would like to wait in the tower for 10-15-30 min for the ENY to update... It doesn't have to be instant. Only to filter out the players who are inactive for a long time.
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Agreed. :aok
Only players in flight should count toward ENY...
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ENY just needs to go. It is silly and does not accomplish its stated goal. Because of this particular incident (and this happens it seems most weekends that I get to fly recently) the bishops were really pounding the rooks while the rooks had a eny between 11 and 17. It frustrates me and is one of the main reasons I log off and go do something else. The more I do that the more I think about spending my 15 dollars a month (180 a year) on something else because I am not using it as much as I would otherwise.
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ENY just needs to go. It is silly and does not accomplish its stated goal. Because of this particular incident (and this happens it seems most weekends that I get to fly recently) the bishops were really pounding the rooks while the rooks had a eny between 11 and 17. It frustrates me and is one of the main reasons I log off and go do something else. The more I do that the more I think about spending my 15 dollars a month (180 a year) on something else because I am not using it as much as I would otherwise.
Well said .. <S>
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ENY just needs to go. It is silly and does not accomplish its stated goal. Because of this particular incident (and this happens it seems most weekends that I get to fly recently) the bishops were really pounding the rooks while the rooks had a eny between 11 and 17. It frustrates me and is one of the main reasons I log off and go do something else. The more I do that the more I think about spending my 15 dollars a month (180 a year) on something else because I am not using it as much as I would otherwise.
Then don't fly super-late war uber rides :D try the D11, 109G-14,109G-6,109G2... And if you want to fly a pony, fly the B, it's faster and turns better as well. I don't care about ENY unless it gets over 20, since I fly MW and EW rides mostly.
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My understanding of the ENY system is that it's purpose is to get people to change countries, other than the 12 hour rule, what would be another way to encourage side balancing?
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Then don't fly super-late war uber rides :D try the D11, 109G-14,109G-6,109G2... And if you want to fly a pony, fly the B, it's faster and turns better as well. I don't care about ENY unless it gets over 20, since I fly MW and EW rides mostly.
For $15 a month you should be allowed to fly whatever the hell you choose to fly, I also don't care what the ENY is, and I enjoy earlier aircraft. This however, does not detract from the fact that I feel that you should not be limited on aircraft choice because of player numbers.
AH is a relatively premium rate MMO, in other you have to pay money in order to access better performing aircraft, whereas in here you pay in advance for that privilege, which should not be withdrawn because there are more guys on your side.
What if the side with the fewest numbers has Bruv, Grizz, Redbull, Batfink, Shawk etc, and the side with the numbers advantage has a plethora of 2 week newbs? How does ENY help then?
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My understanding of the ENY system is that it's purpose is to get people to change countries
In the words of Skuzzy it is a "nudge" :D
But it's not the main purpose (which would also be impossible because of the time restriction). It's first and foremost simply meant as a handicap for the side with numbers.
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What arena and what time is that pic from? I am against an auto disconnect, but am open to the fact that some folks fly at different times and different arenas. Just a curiosity...
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What arena and what time is that pic from?
Late war. Seems early euro morning or euro afternoon = us late night or morning
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Late war. Seems early euro morning or euro afternoon = us late night or morning
Thanks Lusche. My bed time is around 3 AM EST on weekends and considerably earlier during the work week. Definitely not familiar with arena conditions at that time.
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I use to be for the eny system but having watched the P-51D guys take a hit all too often, it is time for it to go or change.
I always go to a P-38J or a D11 so most of the time it is not a bother to me.
Maybe a more extreme perk cut might do the trick. I had thought perk bonus but that would be abused.
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Which could eman that mass horde missions could easily get around ENY restirictions. Everybody lands and get to tower, ENY drops by a huge amount, then the mission auto launches.
My thinking on how to balance this.
Say 20 people are inflight, making ENY 20 (keeping it simple). I post a mission, so 15 of them 'wait' in the tower, lowering ENY to 5. When all 15 join the mission, ENY goes back up to 20. In other words, when you join a mission, your 'ticket/that player' is included in the 'inflight' tally because they are about to be in flight.
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In other words, when you join a mission, your 'ticket/that player' is included in the 'inflight' tally because they are about to be in flight.
Very easy to get around this. Missions will become "informal", 2 or 3 squads + friends just gathering in the towser without posting an official mission.
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There is a long list of excellent aircraft that are rarely, or never, affected by ENY. The problem is that none of them are P-51Ds or other low ENY ride of choice.
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In the words of Skuzzy it is a "nudge" :D
But it's not the main purpose (which would also be impossible because of the time restriction). It's first and foremost simply meant as a handicap for the side with numbers.
Prezactly. :aok
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Very easy to get around this. Missions will become "informal", 2 or 3 squads + friends just gathering in the towser without posting an official mission.
Was just a thought, I prefer 20+ eny planes anyways. :cheers:
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Often, I have to go afk to deal with my kids. This would present a huge problem for me if I were get booted and have to re-log every time I went idle. So that idea sucks for me.
I'm sorry there's ENY problems. I'll support an ENY solution, but Don't boot me, bro!!!
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Couldn't there be a sliding perk scale when ENY kicks in. Rather than restricting aircraft, it adds cost to common rides with low ENY?
Want to fly a Pony amogst the horde? Sure! That'll be 10 perks.
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I brought this ENY crap up a few months ago when it was the BISH getting the short end, but received little sympathy from the NITs and ROOKS. glad to see they are starting to understand the issues.
BIGGEST problem.. It's a THREE country war ! sooo ?? well ROOKs have more players, so they get ENY. Now BISH and NITs double team them. ROOKS are now out numbered AND out classed.
other problem.. I keep seeing the vets here say "well there are plenty of planes that ENY doesn't effect " yeah, well that's OK if you have been playing the game for 10 years and are well practiced. But what about the NEWBS ?
The fresh players trying to learn the game ? the players HTC and us NEED in order to keep this game alive ? yea, lets make them fly relics while pilots with 10 years exp BnZ them in ponys. im sure they'll stick around.
and the 3rd problem, as this thread states, is tower sitters and campers influencing the ENY. I don't know how many times we've had an ENY of 20, and I could only see 5-10 friendly dots on the entire map. (yes, "spawn
camping" is considered to be "in flight")
For the love of god, Abolish ENY !!! :rock
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I brought this ENY crap up a few months ago when it was the BISH getting the short end, but received little sympathy from the NITs and ROOKS. glad to see they are starting to understand the issues.
BIGGEST problem.. It's a THREE country war ! sooo ?? well ROOKs have more players, so they get ENY. Now BISH and NITs double team them. ROOKS are now out numbered AND out classed.
other problem.. I keep seeing the vets here say "well there are plenty of planes that ENY doesn't effect " yeah, well that's OK if you have been playing the game for 10 years and are well practiced. But what about the NEWBS ?
The fresh players trying to learn the game ? the players HTC and us NEED in order to keep this game alive ? yea, lets make them fly relics while pilots with 10 years exp BnZ them in ponys. im sure they'll stick around.
and the 3rd problem, as this thread states, is tower sitters and campers influencing the ENY. I don't know how many times we've had an ENY of 20, and I could only see 5-10 friendly dots on the entire map. (yes, "spawn
camping" is considered to be "in flight")
For the love of god, Abolish ENY !!! :rock
I've played for 6 1/2 years. And actually prefer the higher eny planes, quite a few of them are newbie friendly, and were recommended to me when I started out. Just because it has high ENY doesn't mean it's unflyable as a new player. You don't need to fly a p51 when you start out, nor an N1K. An F4U or Ki84 would be a sufficient equivalent.
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It seems to me that having eny as a handicapping strategy is not terribly effective if what is being handicapped is base capture. It also seems like it isn't terribly effective at nudging people to change countries because of the limitation on frequency of changing. I change sides not because of access to airplanes but because I would rather be on the side with fewer uppers.
That said.
I think that if you have country loyalty than it is going to cost you something as it should, (else it wouldn't be loyal but easy,) and having a plane set limited because you have high numbers doesn't seem like that big a deal as you can always switch, I understand why you wouldn't want to, I understand the thing about squadies but I also believe it is an imperfect world and I think that eny is an honest attempt to improve the quality of gameplay experience for EVERYONE. Maybe it isn't a problem that needs solving but I suspect that the eny system came about because at some point things were miserable without it. Does an old hand know?
Nobody likes being condescended to, meaning in this case being told that "really, the obsolete rides are much more enjoyable and if you were any good you would appreciate them." BUT the fact is they are all fun to fly and just represent different challenges and flying them, (I think,) really makes you learn more faster.
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What arena and what time is that pic from? I am against an auto disconnect, but am open to the fact that some folks fly at different times and different arenas. Just a curiosity...
Its from two days ago and is the Main Arena at the off peak hours so 12am to 6am US time. But for us guys in Australia, the UK and Europe, thats what we face.
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Late war. Seems early euro morning or euro afternoon = us late night or morning
Yes exactly mid morning for the US .. I fly Mossies most of the time so ENY doesn't affect me in the air but others clearly don't want to fly a mossie.
Where it affects me is when a horde comes in to a vBase and I can't get out a wirbie, or two cv's are parked off shore and I can't up B26's.
Basically you are fighting a horde or pony's, lancs etc with less numbers yet we can't up the same equipment due to people not logging off and causing any to go through the roof.
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Thanks Lusche. My bed time is around 3 AM EST on weekends and considerably earlier during the work week. Definitely not familiar with arena conditions at that time.
I guess most of you may say well we don't care as its our off peak time but for us Aussies, British and Europeans, its our peak time.
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I brought this ENY crap up a few months ago when it was the BISH getting the short end, but received little sympathy from the NITs and ROOKS. glad to see they are starting to understand the issues.
BIGGEST problem.. It's a THREE country war ! sooo ?? well ROOKs have more players, so they get ENY. Now BISH and NITs double team them. ROOKS are now out numbered AND out classed.
other problem.. I keep seeing the vets here say "well there are plenty of planes that ENY doesn't effect " yeah, well that's OK if you have been playing the game for 10 years and are well practiced. But what about the NEWBS ?
The fresh players trying to learn the game ? the players HTC and us NEED in order to keep this game alive ? yea, lets make them fly relics while pilots with 10 years exp BnZ them in ponys. im sure they'll stick around.
and the 3rd problem, as this thread states, is tower sitters and campers influencing the ENY. I don't know how many times we've had an ENY of 20, and I could only see 5-10 friendly dots on the entire map. (yes, "spawn
camping" is considered to be "in flight")
For the love of god, Abolish ENY !!! :rock
Turning your argument around, what about the noobs on the outnumbered country getting BNZed by a crapload of P-51s? Do you think the lone noob being in the same plane as the 4 hand-holding vets that are tag teaming him helps him out?
ENY keeps the team with the huge number superiority out of top tier stuff. Same with the "no planes should be perked because I pay my $15" whines. If there was no ENY, just how many of the low number side would log off from getting steamrolled by late war monsters? If anything, ENY should kick in sooner.
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Rook Joint Squad Operations (JSO)
04-05 back in the AH1 days when you could capture all but one field. One Sunday night 300+ rooks suddenly swamped the arena and closed down the knights and bish in about 45 minutes. It worked so well they made it a Sunday night ritual. Hitech created ENY and JSO went the way of the Dodo.
You get a tiny taste of it on Friday nights sometimes when FSO is canceled and the participants don't have anything better to do. So the MA suddenly gets a coordinated large air force for a few hours. Still it's nothing like 300+ players shutting down a map. About the time Hitech introduced ENY, I and others were talking about canceling our subscriptions. Players would log off for the night or worse, jump to the rooks to avoid the kester whuppin from late war massed rides. Very quickly 150+ to 30 odds in the other two countries will make customers vote with their feet and spread the negative word of mouth PR.
After 12 years in this game, one thing stays constant. Bad things happen quickly when it comes to the naughtiness players try to pull off in the MA. Experience with that is the reason for many of the seemingly irrelevant rules to your perception of today's game culture. Human nature won't change. Look at what happened in this forum recently due to human nature not changing.
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I have no wish to have ENY canned but certainly kick those who are inactive which affects ENY so badly.
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See rule #4
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So will you make up the lost revenue when subscriptions are canceled? When you agreed to the terms of use, there was nothing dictating how you would use your time in the MA. Every customer's $14.95 is just as important as the next. If all someone wants to do is sit in the tower year after year and listen to VOX. That doesn't violate the terms of use for this game in the credit card contract.
Next thing you know some player is going to demand Hitech reject customers credit cards en mass and eject them from the game if their connection doesn't meet some arbitrary quality level. Because he doesn't think the game needs anyone who lags and warps constantly. Then on down that rabbit hole there will be the younger players who think Hitech should impose an upper age limit on his paying customers because listening to 50-60 year old bubbas offends their sensibilities on what a real gamer is. Not some over the hill back woods fly over country talking bubba with a laggy Walmart $250 closeout special PC.
Essentially you are demanding Hitech discriminate in favor of your $14.95 as more worthy than other paying customer's $14.95. And here I thought after the recent kindergarten lesson, peace, love, and grooviness had settled into the forums and we all agreed to be nice to each other's hard earned $14.95.
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Same thing today ..
Bish 8 online 5 in the air
Rooks 27 online, 8 in the air
Eny 27
P47D11's & P38g's vs Ki84's and spit16's ??
I logged off ..
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agree with Nikon they should be shot at dawn.
There is no reason for someone to be logged in >30 minutes effecting the ENY if they are not doing anything. They can easily login back in if they were genuinely AFK.
Off hours is a different kettle of fish when each and every player has a larger impact on the overall %.
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Same as it ever was?
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See rule #4
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So will you make up the lost revenue when subscriptions are canceled? When you agreed to the terms of use, there was nothing dictating how you would use your time in the MA. Every customer's $14.95 is just as important as the next. If all someone wants to do is sit in the tower year after year and listen to VOX. That doesn't violate the terms of use for this game in the credit card contract.
Next thing you know some player is going to demand Hitech reject customers credit cards en mass and eject them from the game if their connection doesn't meet some arbitrary quality level. Because he doesn't think the game needs anyone who lags and warps constantly. Then on down that rabbit hole there will be the younger players who think Hitech should impose an upper age limit on his paying customers because listening to 50-60 year old bubbas offends their sensibilities on what a real gamer is. Not some over the hill back woods fly over country talking bubba with a laggy Walmart $250 closeout special PC.
Essentially you are demanding Hitech discriminate in favor of your $14.95 as more worthy than other paying customer's $14.95. And here I thought after the recent kindergarten lesson, peace, love, and grooviness had settled into the forums and we all agreed to be nice to each other's hard earned $14.95.
+1---texas players<---pay 16.95 per month
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and what of new players---there not gonna want to be told that if your in the game you HAVE to keep playing or log off....thats not cool.
i'm so :( that your eny is so high you can"t fly you favorite plane :cry
if i can't fly the p-51d or other,lets call them #1 planes it won't kill you to fly a lesser plane...
you know the old sayin--sometimes less is good....
this just sounds like the old play the game my way or else--story.
and this eny thing has been harped on for so long 3-4 years now..if it hasen't happed by now it probably never will
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and what of new players---there not gonna want to be told that if your in the game you HAVE to keep playing or log off....thats not cool.
i'm so :( that your eny is so high you can"t fly you favorite plane :cry
if i can't fly the p-51d or other,lets call them #1 planes it won't kill you to fly a lesser plane...
you know the old sayin--sometimes less is good....
this just sounds like the old play the game my way or else--story.
and this eny thing has been harped on for so long 3-4 years now..if it hasen't happed by now it probably never will
Lunatic
I don't think you have read this thread to make comments like what you have just posted?
I .. me .. NikonGuy flies Mossie most of the time .. its a 30 ENY plane. I don't fly ponies, never have and never will and I would rather strangle myself than climb into a spixteen.
Where the issue lies is when we have a massive ENY but equal numbers flying .. the other side gets late war machines, the high ENY side gets early war machines including gv's for base defence. Now next week the high ENY side due to inactive players might be which ever country you fly for ..
I am bringing this to the attention of the community for everyones benefit .. not just because I want to fly a frickin P51 !!!
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Lunatic
I don't think you have read this thread to make comments like what you have just posted?
I .. me .. NikonGuy flies Mossie most of the time .. its a 30 ENY plane. I don't fly ponies, never have and never will and I would rather strangle myself than climb into a spixteen.
Where the issue lies is when we have a massive ENY but equal numbers flying .. the other side gets late war machines, the high ENY side gets early war machines including gv's for base defence. Now next week the high ENY side due to inactive players might be which ever country you fly for ..
I am bringing this to the attention of the community for everyones benefit .. not just because I want to fly a frickin P51 !!!
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yeah i know-there are alot of things in the structure of this game i don't understand: esp--eny--but in the rare times when we knights have eny--i just fly other planes--i don't let eny ruin or rule my playing time....hehehe, i have an idea nikonguy--change to knights and you'll hardley ever have to be concerned with eny..plus you can make a whole bunch of new friends lol :salute
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certainly kick those who are inactive which affects ENY so badly.
there's no reason to think there aren't similar ratio of inactive players on all 3 sides so why would it affect eny?
gv'ers count too, not just pilots.
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there's no reason to think there aren't similar ratio of inactive players on all 3 sides so why would it affect eny?
gv'ers count too, not just pilots.
check the op image
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I think I see the problem. Eny is not a problem above a certain population level but once the numbers get low it is easy for the metrics to give a distorted version of reality and as Nikon points out he can't while defending a v base by himself against several others use the basic vbase tool called wirb. Maybe eny could take a holiday when numbers fell below a certain point.
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check the op image
still don't know how he knows they aren't active.. maybe they're doing something in the hangar? maybe they're chatting with friends? maybe they're downloading skins?
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I think I see the problem. Eny is not a problem above a certain population level but once the numbers get low it is easy for the metrics to give a distorted version of reality and as Nikon points out he can't while defending a v base by himself against several others use the basic vbase tool called wirb. Maybe eny could take a holiday when numbers fell below a certain point.
They all ready do.
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So there you go.
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:furious don't infringe on my right to go afk.
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I bet this would be different if you paid per hour.
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:furious don't infringe on my right to go afk.
....and if you go AFK whats the point of staying connected to the game? Just curious.
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....and if you go AFK whats the point of staying connected to the game? Just curious.
i brought up one.. downloading skins..
lusche has mentioned another before, he used to stay on to log bomber landing messages to compute stats.
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i brought up one.. downloading skins..
lusche has mentioned another before, he used to stay on to log bomber landing messages to compute stats.
One thing mentioned was perks earned in your side flips the map.
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i brought up one.. downloading skins..
lusche has mentioned another before, he used to stay on to log bomber landing messages to compute stats.
Yup and thats what once, twice. These guys make it sound like they are AFK all the time, why?
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I was once in a squad and a fellow joined, flew with us for maybe two weeks then he went ask for 3 months. Every time I logged on there was his name in red in the squad roster.
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Every time I logged on there was his name in red in the squad roster.
:rofl
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I am curious. How many people understand that the request OP change would not have any NET effect on the eny values.
The original screen shot shows the great selective memory , and only looking at numbers when they are not working for you.
It would be a reasonable assumption that the number of non active players effects all countries the same over a period of time.
Hence there are times where your just flying along all happy because ENY isn't currently effecting you. But if you would look at the roster the reason it would not be effecting you is because players who are not flying are on a different country. Hence granting the OP request. Would simply change the times when the ENY would be effecting the player.
I.E. It all averages out.
Now there is another cause and effect I would be fairly certain happens ,the country with the high numbers have more player not in flight who are simply talking and waiting hoping the ENY will change.
Hence again these people would not be effect and again the same imbalances would remain.
Next anyone who would wish to remain only line while being inactive would still do so, simply by finding ways around the current request such as sitting in a field gun, (now the problem is worse because some one who really wants to used the gun can't) Grabing a vehicle some place out of the way. Grabbing a plane and sitting on a runway in a rear field. These are only a few ways that the system would be gotten around.
So we have a request who's net effect would have 0 impact.
The request would create other problems by people trying to get around it.
The request would be a pain for people who were simply afk for a period of time and were coming back.
I.E.
I Don't think I will ever implement this.
HiTech
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Hence there are times where your just flying along all happy because ENY isn't currently effecting you. But if you would look at the roster the reason it would not be effecting you is because players who are not flying are on a different country.
I would just like to point out that the people on that country are also unhappy with the ENY they have. I have seen it on channel 200 all the time, every single day. They just haven't brought their displeasure with the ENY system to the BBS yet like the OP has. Having the afk players on a different country doesn't fix the problem, it just moves it to another country. The players on that country will complain about the ENY system and not being able to fly their favorite plane because 50% of their country is afk and they'll just log off. Now that countries numbers have dropped significantly and the ENY problem has moved to another country. Rinse and repeat now.
I think this problem should at least be looked into more. The vast majority of the AH2 community is not happy with it. They just haven't brought it to the BBS yet, but you can see it quite often in the MA on channel 200. Maybe kicking people who are inactive isn't the best solution because it have so many work arounds, but there is a solution out there somewhere that will make everyone happy. We just have to find it.
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Just last night a squad mate had to take a phone call. When all was said and done, it took over an hour.
I have heard Vox talk of "I will be right back gone to get a pizza."
It must happen all of the time. Not sure booting people out would do anything. If you are worried about a few who stay in case of a perk award, I don't think there are many of those.
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I would just like to point out that the people on that country are also unhappy with the ENY they have. I have seen it on channel 200 all the time, every single day. They just haven't brought their displeasure with the ENY system to the BBS yet like the OP has. Having the afk players on a different country doesn't fix the problem, it just moves it to another country. The players on that country will complain about the ENY system and not being able to fly their favorite plane because 50% of their country is afk and they'll just log off. Now that countries numbers have dropped significantly and the ENY problem has moved to another country. Rinse and repeat now.
I think this problem should at least be looked into more. The vast majority of the AH2 community is not happy with it. They just haven't brought it to the BBS yet, but you can see it quite often in the MA on channel 200. Maybe kicking people who are inactive isn't the best solution because it have so many work arounds, but there is a solution out there somewhere that will make everyone happy. We just have to find it.
I'm not clear on how you know that the current system isn't the best one.
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I would just like to point out that the people on that country are also unhappy with the ENY they have. I have seen it on channel 200 all the time, every single day. They just haven't brought their displeasure with the ENY system to the BBS yet like the OP has. Having the afk players on a different country doesn't fix the problem, it just moves it to another country. The players on that country will complain about the ENY system and not being able to fly their favorite plane because 50% of their country is afk and they'll just log off. Now that countries numbers have dropped significantly and the ENY problem has moved to another country. Rinse and repeat now.
I think this problem should at least be looked into more. The vast majority of the AH2 community is not happy with it. They just haven't brought it to the BBS yet, but you can see it quite often in the MA on channel 200. Maybe kicking people who are inactive isn't the best solution because it have so many work arounds, but there is a solution out there somewhere that will make everyone happy. We just have to find it.
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I'm not clear on how you know that the current system isn't the best one.
I don't know if the current system is the best one, but based upon what I've heard from a lot of people in game, the vast majority of the AH2 community is not happy with the way ENY works. Personally I don't care about ENY but that's because all my favorite planes are ENY 30 or more. I do switch sides a lot and fly for all three countries and I hear a lot of complaint about ENY from people on the side I'm flying for in country text, and I also hear complaints about it in channel 200 a lot as well. Especially during the off hours when there's only 50 people online and 30 of them are AFK.
During the off hours for instance, let's say all three sides have 10 players actively playing the game. However, one side has 20 players afk and it drives the ENY for that side up to 20+. Even though that country has 10 active players, same as the other 2 sides, they are being penalized because of the players who are afk. I'm not saying the afk players are at fault, they could have any number or reasons to have gone afk.
The best argument I have heard about going afk is the bomber pilots who go afk for an hour on their climb out. I get that bomber climbouts can be long and boring so you kind of want to just step away from the keyboard and let the autopilot do its thing. This makes a loop hole for if the system is changed to kicking people who are inactive for a set number of minutes by just upping a gv or sitting in a manned gun (I honestly don't know why people would intentionally do this but apparently it is a problem). I don't quite get the argument of downloading skins though. Just have the game auto download them while you're playing the game. I have never had it affect my internet connection while I played and I have one of the worst internet connection on the entire planet!
Planetside 2 which I played a lot has an XP system in place. If you fight in an area that has lots of friendlies and very little enemies then you get less XP than if you were to fight in an area that has lots of enemies and few friendlies. That's a three sided game that seems to do well. They have the usual chatter in text that two sides are ganging up on the other like in AH2, but the fights are always swinging back and forth because the other side wants to win. Just like in Planetside 2 how people will divert and attack the enemy on their 2nd front to push them back, I think AH2 can do the same thing as long as people have a reason to. In Planetside 2 that reward is more XP. In AH2 you are penalized no matter where you go because ENY affects you no matter where you go. So why go fight 20 P-51D and La-7's in your P-40B when you can join the other 20 P-40B's and gang up on the 2 Spit 16's on the other front? Again, that's just one example. There are other possibilities out there. What they might be, I don't know but someone might.
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Sorry I initially clipped a "]". :D
I understand the frustration. HiTech's point is that the different suggestions just trade one problem for another.
I don't think afk bomber pilots are an issue since they are in flight. The question is how do the inactive players in the tower affect their side over time. A snapshot is misleading since it includes people momentarily in the tower. HiTech has the data and believes it evens out. If one side was consistently disadvantaged I think he would notice.
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I have played on some off hour areas...Korea, Hawaii....never had problem with ENY. More problems with no fights on big maps.....
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Yeah, this totally explains cybro and many others hanging out in the tower or in a vehicle/gun waiting for Proxies for hours and hours. I have even logged in the evening to come back on the next morning to find them still there! Recently a guy at field 24 all day. Plus when you see a field flashing and Theurich is an icon there and you think it’s covered only to find out its afk cybro waiting for Proxies as the field gets taken. By the time you land and head over it’s too late!
Admittedly, I have had to run off myself and forgotten to log. The rest of the online gaming community can’t possibly have it wrong for inactivity kick!
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I'd get booted all the time.
Then be a team player and frigging log, LOL
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My understanding of the ENY system is that it's purpose is to get people to change countries, other than the 12 hour rule, what would be another way to encourage side balancing?
And then you have country Loyality and squads etc