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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Skyyr on September 02, 2014, 12:35:45 PM
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Just gauging the interest levels here -
Who here would be interested in improving, or even mastering, their front-quarter shots? As many can vouch, it is quite an effective skill and one that not only produces tons of kills, but a lot of gameplay satisfaction.
This "jousting" session would potentially cover such subjects as:
- How to easily read even the best turnfighters and hit them at the merge.
- How to aim and maneuver big-cannoned planes that are naturally suited for jousting.
- How to maintain energy levels and easily avoid the turnfight, permitting yourself to set back up for another joust.
- How to make 600-800yd kills regularly with 30mm-armed aircraft.
- How to win the joust against another jouster (typically those who get frustrated by your previous successful jousts).
- How to consistently succeed in your jousts!
- How to joust against multiple opponents.
And so on.
Again, this is just a concept. Any interest?
:salute
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HO lessons?
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HO lessons?
No sir. Jousting lessons. HO's can result in mutual destruction and should be avoided. This is primarily about the art of shooting someone else without being hit back (though there is definitely a component to shooting steadily if your opponent gains a guns solution and chooses to shoot back).
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(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3707883264/h302C2013/)
:rofl :aok
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Youre teaching how to head on? wow, where this world is going...
I would call the Aces High Training Corps members to share their opinion about this. Please, Gentlemen!
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Youre teaching how to head on? wow, where this world is going...
I would call the Aces High Training Corps members to share their opinion about this. Please, Gentlemen!
You flyin' yet, Deb?
:lol
I think it's an excellent idea, personally. Lord knows there are so many who do it poorly....
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Hoing in AH is no different from Hoing on the streets. It's for stat queens and no talents, and has no place in a game that is supposed to require skill. Anyone can HO, not many can fight to gain the advantage...
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Hoing in AH is no different from Hoing on the streets. It's for stat queens and no talents, and has no place in a game that is supposed to require skill. Anyone can HO, not many can fight to gain the advantage...
People take head on, front quarter shots on the streets.....for stats? :O
Damn, dude, where do you live?! Compton?
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When will people just accept that head-on passes are just part of the game, if it was against the rules wouldn't HTC implement a hit box that only applies damage behind the 3/9 line?
I had a 4v1 last night on the deck low and slow with a Yak3, Spit8, Yak9T, and a 190A, you're damn right I'm going to take as many of those red bastards with me (3) as possible. By any means possible.
In the time I have been playing I have yet to see 4 guys take turns to go 1v1 with an enemy. On the contrary, they are usually tripping all over each other to get the kill, all 4 going low after one, while 3 red guys come in high. If friendly fire was enabled they'd kill themselves before killing the enemy.
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When will people just accept that head-on passes are just part of the game, if it was against the rules wouldn't HTC implement a hit box that only applies damage behind the 3/9 line?
Actually Hitech has explained very clearly why this is NOT the case in his game:
EDIT: Parts of this need to be bolded, methinks :D
AW Had diffenet types of head on gunnery, durring most of the time I was playing AW HO hits were not thrown out. but a person got a 3 wingspan buble for hits from the rear and a 1 wingspan bubble from the front quater.
People also seem to forget how with no collisions in AW, you would could head on in AW flying right threw the apponent with no worries of impact.
When a change was made to the randomly throwing out hits was the end of my FW flying days. Not because I liked to head on, but it took a very valid tatic away. In those days I would use a pure head on when ever I was at a disavantage. I.E. just finished a fight, slow on dec. and a spit is comming in. You can be sure I would take the head on in that case, because it was my only option if the guy wanted to fly right at me, and I had no speed to turn or manuver with him. But even more important than the pure head on was how it totaly removed the rope a dope. Against a resonable aponent ropes and using the vertical became almost inposible, because everone would just wait, and point there nose at you knowing there chances of being hit was very low, even thow they were stalled was required no lead to shoot them.
Changeing the chances of head on hits would have drastic impact on game play. It would drasticly shift to the best turning planes, because speed zoom and climb rates impact in a dog fight would be reducused, do to the fact all you would have to do is point your plane toward the boomer, and his pass would be defeted.
I belive Zazen argument about death promoting more head on's is completly backwards . Lack of death is what promotes the long turn and burn furballs. If life was more important you would see a lot more hit and run tatics, as oposed to getting slow and turning, hence enabling the next guy to kill you.
Docs Idea of no ICons is not workable either. People want to fight, not fly around looking for a fight.No Icons has been tried, and very quicly becomes boring. The range ICON if anything gives more opertunity to do lead turns,judge peoples E stat correctly hence enableing manuvers to defete the headon. With out the range I belive we would see even more headons.
HiTech
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Soooo that's that, HTC approves, or is at least neutral. Why can't it be accepted as normal behavior?
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Soooo that's that, HTC approves, or is at least neutral. Why can't it be accepted as normal behavior?
Because it's a wuss move that is so commonly followed up by diving to the deck and running to ack.
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Because it's a wuss move that is so commonly followed up by diving to the deck and running to ack.
We've had some good fights over the lake, right Flyman? :salute That said, of the many taters you have lobbed into my virtual airplanes, not a single one has caused real pain or blood shed. Dontya think that fact maybe precludes "wussiness/courage" from being part of the whole paradigm? ;)
Besides, whenever I dodge a HO, and believe me, I dodge like hell when I see a Typhie or a Mossie lining up for it, it is because going toe-to-toe probably isn't going to go well for me...mediocre shot you see...thus it could be argued I'm "wussing" out of perfectly fair test of relative gunnery skill, could it not? :D
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Soooo that's that, HTC approves, or is at least neutral. Why can't it be accepted as normal behavior?
I'd be careful trying to put words in HiTech's mouth. Read his comments more carefully -- he approves of frontal shots in two very specific scenarios: as a low-E defensive fighter and at the top of a rope. I wouldn't use this as some reinforcement of the "doctrine" that you are trying to troll the AH community with here.
To everyone else: this is an obvious troll attempt. Please DON'T BITE.
(http://cdn.halloftheblackdragon.com/reel/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/blog-troll.jpg)
The best we can hope for here is a quick lock for this thread.
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HO lessons?
:rofl
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We've had some good fights over the lake, right Flyman? :salute That said, of the many taters you have lobbed into my virtual airplanes, not a single one has caused real pain or blood shed. Dontya think that fact maybe precludes "wussiness/courage" from being part of the whole paradigm? ;)
Besides, whenever I dodge a HO, and believe me, I dodge like hell when I see a Typhie or a Mossie lining up for it, it is because going toe-to-toe probably isn't going to go well for me...mediocre shot you see...thus it could be argued I'm "wussing" out of perfectly fair test of relative gunnery skill, could it not? :D
Exactly, people HO and run to save their virtual life, it's upsetting and makes stuff boring.
And yes we have had fun fights. :banana:
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To everyone else: this is an obvious troll attempt. Please DON'T BITE.
There is no trolling intended whatsoever. I became somewhat bored one week during this past tour and decided to count all of the merges where I shot at my opponent, when it was clear they were maneuvering for angles and had no intention of shooting back.
Out of 322 "hot" merges over the course of one week, I killed 172 on the first pass. Another 67 of those resulted in hits where the aircraft was either disabled or otherwise unable to employ effective ACM and they were shot down in short order.
In case you were wondering, that's a 74.2% win rate... from firing at the merge. Not only is that a decent win rate, but also factor in the time savings.
If we generalize that the "average" fight lasts two minutes, then the jousting tactic saved 7.97 hours of time that would normally have been spent fighting. This frees up roughly another 8 hours to gain even more kills.
Once I had my statistics, I decided to post here and see if there was any interest.
That's all - nothing more, nothing less.
:salute
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God this game has gone down the crapper, this just proves it IMO... :bhead If I see anymore if this BS I'm out, why teach 2 weekers not to use ACM instead of etching them REAL ACM.
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God this game has gone down the crapper, this just proves it IMO... :bhead
You could find the very same kind of discussions 14 years ago ;)
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Because it's a wuss move that is so commonly followed up by diving to the deck and running to ack.
It's also used by those who are greatly outnumbered, or as a defense when getting dove on, in any occasion or reason my point is that everyone does it, if everyone just accepted that fact, adjusted and adapted their tactics to counter then all would be gravy.
All people do (instead of finding ways to counter) is whine. Remember what I said: its a helluva lot harder to shoot in the way to the top of a stall than it is to shoot on the way down. Yet the guys who get roped, will cry "HO!". Instead of looking inwards and what THEIR mistakes were.
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God this game has gone down the crapper, this just proves it IMO... :bhead If I see anymore if this BS I'm out, why teach 2 weekers not to use ACM instead of etching them REAL ACM.
I'm not advocating the avoidance of ACM. Quite the opposite - if you use ACM, but can also kill your opponent the majority of the time at the merge, then what do you have to lose? I think you've experienced that first-hand.
Always a pleasure to fight you, sir.
:salute
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You could find the very same kind of discussions 14 years ago ;)
Rofl, yes I'm starting to see some of those surface, Zazen(sp?) seems to have made these points a long time ago, it's also surprising to read some complimentary comments made by some of the same folks who are calling "Heresy!" today. Say what your want but at least we have conviction lol.
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It's also used by those who are greatly outnumbered, or as a defense when getting dove on, in any occasion or reason my point is that everyone does it, if everyone just accepted that fact, adjusted and adapted their tactics to counter then all would be gravy.
All people do (instead of finding ways to counter) is whine. Remember what I said: its a helluva lot harder to shoot in the way to the top of a stall than it is to shoot on the way down. Yet the guys who get roped, will cry "HO!". Instead of looking inwards and what THEIR mistakes were.
Not trying to burst your bubble or anything but I just don't HO when I'm outnumbered, my goal when being outnumbered mostly is to survive as long as possible, HOing wouldn't do it for me.
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Not trying to burst your bubble or anything but I just don't HO when I'm outnumbered, my goal when being outnumbered mostly is to survive as long as possible, HOing wouldn't do it for me.
You might not, there are many others that do. You can't expect everyone to behave like you. You must adapt to the combat environment you are in, not the other way around.
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Not trying to burst your bubble or anything but I just don't HO when I'm outnumbered, my goal when being outnumbered mostly is to survive as long as possible, HOing wouldn't do it for me.
Everyone here is free to fly with one hand tied on his back, figuratively speaking.
I for myself am willing to use any tool & trick in my bag, if necessary. When theres a higher Spit diving on my clumsy Me 410, I absolutely WILL try to HO him... it's about the best chance I've got, unless that Spit pilot is totally inept.
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Exactly, people HO and run to save their virtual life, it's upsetting and makes stuff boring.
I think the best way to save their virtual life would be to run and to skip the part where they fly directly into the other guy's guns, yes?
I don't find being HOed more upsetting than any other form of losing a fight. I don't get hit by HOs very often either, probably because I expect it. I think the game might be more boring sans the HOs, as Hitech was alluding to.
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Everyone here is free to fly with one hand tied on his back, figuratively speaking.
I for myself am willing to use any tool & trick in my bag, if necessary. When theres a higher Spit diving on my clumsy Me 410, I absolutely WILL try to HO him... it's about the best chance I've got, unless that Spit pilot is totally inept.
This.
Also, if you do chose to fly with one hand behind your back, You can't complain when you get beat. But that is exactly what is happening here.
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You must adapt to the combat environment you are in, not the other way around.
How ironic.
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There is no trolling intended whatsoever. I became somewhat bored one week during this past tour and decided to count all of the merges where I shot at my opponent, when it was clear they were maneuvering for angles and had no intention of shooting back.
Out of 322 "hot" merges over the course of one week, I killed 172 on the first pass. Another 67 of those resulted in hits where the aircraft was either disabled or otherwise unable to employ effective ACM and they were shot down in short order.
In case you were wondering, that's a 74.2% win rate... from firing at the merge. Not only is that a decent win rate, but also factor in the time savings.
If we generalize that the "average" fight lasts two minutes, then the jousting tactic saved 7.97 hours of time that would normally have been spent fighting. This frees up roughly another 8 hours to gain even more kills.
Once I had my statistics, I decided to post here and see if there was any interest.
PS hoin when totally out number is a totally different kettle of fish
That's all - nothing more, nothing less.
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I'm confused a little...I'm sure that you stated in another thread that you found there to be no or very lacking competition within AH and yet you don't actually want competition at all... The only person you are competing against is yourself....you say above that you could see they were looking to set up for an angles fight which inevitably could turn into a competitive turn fight using all the (and more than real sometimes) abilities of the aircraft you have chosen for the sortie and yet you want to take the sucker punch because it looks better on the score card....
sure it does in one respect...but in another it means jack within the over all game dynamic that is AH... if score really matters there are others that will keep a lifetime achievement score... You are totally driven by score and ...in reality a very small part of an over all scoring system.... so this must mean from my unskilled, bad grammatical, summation that you you need a chest to pin it to.....
Don't get me wrong...as it is said it is your $15.... but AH has never been a typical arcadish style fighter game to me which is what kept me wanting to log in more and more.... this is not the case these days... it is a shame from my perspective (numbers could be a factor here though...the majority staying are..well.... not my people so to speak)
Out of curiosity...how many other flight sims have you been/are a part of.
Oh yes...Hoin when being jumped on by 4 other cons is a different kettle of fish....
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There is no trolling intended whatsoever. I became somewhat bored one week during this past tour and decided to count all of the merges where I shot at my opponent, when it was clear they were maneuvering for angles and had no intention of shooting back.
Out of 322 "hot" merges over the course of one week, I killed 172 on the first pass. Another 67 of those resulted in hits where the aircraft was either disabled or otherwise unable to employ effective ACM and they were shot down in short order.
In case you were wondering, that's a 74.2% win rate... from firing at the merge. Not only is that a decent win rate, but also factor in the time savings.
If we generalize that the "average" fight lasts two minutes, then the jousting tactic saved 7.97 hours of time that would normally have been spent fighting. This frees up roughly another 8 hours to gain even more kills.
Once I had my statistics, I decided to post here and see if there was any interest.
That's all - nothing more, nothing less.
:salute
Fighting in a combat game? You mean like competition? That's crazy talk! Thanks for clarifying that the game is really about self-promotion and winning at any cost.
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More BS.
That's all - nothing more, nothing less.
:salute
100% troll, nothing more, nothing less.
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This.
Also, if you do chose to fly with one hand behind your back, You can't complain when you get beat. But that is exactly what is happening here.
Yeah I can't complain when I'm killed, but if I live and did so by HOing I feel no accomplishment of getting myself out of it. Would rather fly with a hand behind my back.
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When will people just accept that head-on passes are just part of the game, if it was against the rules wouldn't HTC implement a hit box that only applies damage behind the 3/9 line?
I had a 4v1 last night on the deck low and slow with a Yak3, Spit8, Yak9T, and a 190A, you're damn right I'm going to take as many of those red bastards with me (3) as possible. By any means possible.
In the time I have been playing I have yet to see 4 guys take turns to go 1v1 with an enemy. On the contrary, they are usually tripping all over each other to get the kill, all 4 going low after one, while 3 red guys come in high. If friendly fire was enabled they'd kill themselves before killing the enemy.
I only think of the same exact thing every other sortie lately.
Not just for the enemy, a couple friendlies this weekend didn't casually pass infront of me wrangling with a target, they parked their plane infront of me like a barge. If ONLY I could, if only I could....
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I only think of the same exact thing every other sortie lately.
Not just for the enemy, a couple friendlies this weekend didn't casually pass infront of me wrangling with a target, they parked their plane infront of me like a barge. If ONLY I could, if only I could....
I know the feeling... Lol
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On the plus side, HOs make some good screen shots. The planes end up posed nicely! :banana:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10653851_10202158976128325_7743900606459080356_n.jpg?oh=151311500f9968556302a0e45fe2f467&oe=54601AE7&__gda__=1415653105_c0364657e403abb0d81e99291adab557)
In this engagement I was using the vertical to deal with the I16's horizontal turning ability. I rolled over for a shot, but it had more energy than I thought, pulled up into me abruptly. The result was inevitable. I think this may be the sort of thing the Hitech quote refers to.
Sir, I can only assume then that someone else is flying on your computer very late at night. You may or may not need to be made aware of this fact. Note the actions of the La7 on the first merge.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6rnltr2sb7oszo1/109K4I16Ratascreenie_1750.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/6rnltr2sb7oszo1/109K4I16Ratascreenie_1750.ahf)
I'd be careful trying to put words in HiTech's mouth. Read his comments more carefully -- he approves of frontal shots in two very specific scenarios: as a low-E defensive fighter and at the top of a rope. I wouldn't use this as some reinforcement of the "doctrine" that you are trying to troll the AH community with here.
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I know the feeling... Lol
Ganging, HO ing, picking, vulching, ack hugging, so many trendy names for excuses, I just call them all part of the game and learn to deal with em.
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Lmao. Great. Just what we need, more BnZ p51Ds and 190Ds HOing and running away to the deck
I commened your, wanting to help fellow AHers. But this is just dumb.
This has to be the lamest form of "training" I've ever seen.
Its like training in Iraq to become a suicide bomber. "I'll teach you the skills to set off your very own personable bomb!! And guess what 72% of you will go to heaven for doing it correctly!!
Lol, what a terrible way of fighting this is.
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Lmao. Great. Just what we need, more BnZ p51Ds and 190Ds HOing and running away to the deck
I commened your, wanting to help fellow AHers. But this is just dumb.
This has to be the lamest form of "training" I've ever seen.
Its like training in Iraq to become a suicide bomber. "I'll teach you the skills to set off your very own personable bomb!! And guess what 72% of you will go to heaven for doing it correctly!!
Lol, what a terrible way of fighting this is.
...and 3, 2, 1...
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Fighting in a combat game? You mean like competition? That's crazy talk! Thanks for clarifying that the game is really about self-promotion and winning at any cost.
Just how competitive is a player if they cannot avoid the opponent's guns from the start? I would argue that they were not very competitive at all, especially if they can be beaten with such a "noobish" tactic (to quote the sentiment of others). I contend that there's an art to jousting.
:salute
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Ok... who cloned Shane? :rolleyes:
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I only think of the same exact thing every other sortie lately.
Just like when encountering anyone from your squad. It's always a team effort.
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Just how competitive is a player if they cannot avoid the opponent's guns from the start? I would argue that they were not very competitive at all, especially if they can be beaten with such a "noobish" tactic (to quote the sentiment of others). I contend that there's an art to jousting.
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And how is it a fight if it ends before it begins?
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And how is it a fight if it ends before it begins?
The fight started the second your aircraft entered your opponent's sights.
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... did I hear Shane? :confused:
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Ganging, HO ing, picking, vulching, ack hugging, so many trendy names for excuses, I just call them all part of the game and learn to deal with em.
I was talking about the 12 clearing BS
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This thread would be perfect for an Aces High "onion" board.
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This thread would be perfect for an Aces High "onion" board.
Nah. For that there would have to be a large number of vocal people extolling the virtues of polishing the HO.
TBH I'm not entirely sure I see a difference between shooting someone in a furball who's not directly engaged with you and HOing them under the same circumstances, other than the fact that the victim actually has more of a chance to return fire in the HO.
Merge every time as though your opponent is going to try to face shoot you, and the problem goes away. I do agree one pass haul backside is annoying, but such is the way of things.
Wiley.
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You might not, there are many others that do. You can't expect everyone to behave like you. You must adapt to the combat environment you are in, not the other way around.
and yet you to want to teach people how to shoot like you which basically is behaving the same way as you and your buddy any noob can fly directly at another plane guns blazing searching for that " front quarter shot" aka HO ......... dress it up anyway you want to it's still a HO.... if that's how you and your squadie wants to fly that's fine by me but you shouldn't be dragging other people into something that you think is a great shot but the majority of the others frown upon it because it's considered a ho shot aren't you good enough to get around behind your enemy? like another person has already said if the stupid game play gets any worse than it is I'm going to be gone too.
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You flyin' yet, Deb?
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I think it's an excellent idea, personally. Lord knows there are so many who do it poorly....
I was still mild and civil, not calling anyone out. Only said, wow, what the bloody hell!
Being moderate does not help if im only wondering if one is trying to organise a course for something i have always been against, yet you are trying to troll me for not being able to play. Exuse me for not playing right at the moment, im 23 and i would rather spend my hardly-earned 15$ (yes im poor) on my lady and my free time with her instead of upping a cartoon plane only to get hoed (PWNED!!) by big mouth internet awesomenesses. Due to the kindness of one of my squaddies i might have a running account soon enough, THEN, then talk about who daddy is. I luv this game, but not how youre playing it - the 80th, the KN, the JG11, the TG, the LD, etc, those guys worth playing with, not you. Derp.
DOH.
Listen here once more, little sergeant of the mighty delirious "master".
I have been discussing the hoing topic multiple times before. Feel free to review my posts. My fun in this game was the well-performed ACM, over anything else. I just cant give a damn about what you minions are doing or what your mighty score is because if you come across with one of that kind i do respect, you dont stand a chance. But this one, even teaching the uneducated ones how to head on instead of gow to perform ACM, even more, calling me out for not playing YOUR, again YOUR game just crosses every boarder i can take. This is the BESTEST way this game can every develope, attracting new payers with quality gameplay. Awesome, let it run...
I cannot give a damn if i get banned for this post, im fed up with your behaviour and little intriques, pushing buttons and pulling strings trying to look big while being a sorry arse minion.
Long live Rock n Roll. Out.
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Ok... who cloned Shane? :rolleyes:
ROFL...... the first word in the title of this thread made me immediately think of Shane!
someone posted that maybe the AH Training Corps should chime in and post our thoughts to this thread............ I have already told Skyyr how I view it in a personal message, now if he wants to copy and paste it to share with the rest of you, that is up to him..... ( and it was more of how I view & approach the game and asking skyyr what was his thoughts on posting this thread, in which he is simply gauging the reactions of the community on the subject... is what I took from our conversation anyway... )
and DeBrody, I do not see anything in your above post that should cause you to get banned.....
oh well,
TC
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Aces high, the only game where its more acceptable to shoot someone in the back than from head on.
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Sigh.
It doesn't matter how many threads you start to get people to buy off on the HO as a viable of component of ACM, it will always be looked upon as a lazy and generally frowned upon method of engaging in virtual combat. I truly hope the population here doesn't ever start to beleive the junk you post as it would be detrimental to overall gameplay in my opinion.
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This is the BESTEST way this game can every develope, attracting new payers with quality gameplay. Awesome, let it run...
Actually, I would be willing to bet that crap like the PM I posted a screenshot of earlier, including "You HOing so-and-so!" remarks, alienates FAR more of Hitech's noob customers than being HO'd does. After all, the head-on pass is a tactic WWII aviation buffs will have read about frequently when researching their favorite subject.
23? Yeah, early/mid twenties can be a tough age bracket in some respects. I'd say you're spending your funds wisely atm. :aok Once you cross thirty your body won't feel as good but the human brain has reached it's fully mature form by that point. A bit of serenity, objectivy, and a salubrious don't give a flip tends to set in. Totally worth the aches and pains IMO.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365630.msg4865900.html#msg4865900 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365630.msg4865900.html#msg4865900)
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Because it's a wuss move that is so commonly followed up by diving to the deck and running to ack.
Respectfully, Ive seen that "wuss move" employed by ACM "gods" who try to put me in a rolling sissors...are flat out beaten in said sissors.....then dive to the deck to ack or friends.
Stuff happens and life ain't fair.
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I was still mild and civil, not calling anyone out. Only said, wow, what the bloody hell!
Being moderate does not help if im only wondering if one is trying to organise a course for something i have always been against, yet you are trying to troll me for not being able to play. Exuse me for not playing right at the moment, im 23 and i would rather spend my hardly-earned 15$ (yes im poor) on my lady and my free time with her instead of upping a cartoon plane only to get hoed (PWNED!!) by big mouth internet awesomenesses. Due to the kindness of one of my squaddies i might have a running account soon enough, THEN, then talk about who daddy is. I luv this game, but not how youre playing it - the 80th, the KN, the JG11, the TG, the LD, etc, those guys worth playing with, not you. Derp.
DOH.
Listen here once more, little sergeant of the mighty delirious "master".
I have been discussing the hoing topic multiple times before. Feel free to review my posts. My fun in this game was the well-performed ACM, over anything else. I just cant give a damn about what you minions are doing or what your mighty score is because if you come across with one of that kind i do respect, you dont stand a chance. But this one, even teaching the uneducated ones how to head on instead of gow to perform ACM, even more, calling me out for not playing YOUR, again YOUR game just crosses every boarder i can take. This is the BESTEST way this game can every develope, attracting new payers with quality gameplay. Awesome, let it run...
I cannot give a damn if i get banned for this post, im fed up with your behaviour and little intriques, pushing buttons and pulling strings trying to look big while being a sorry arse minion.
Long live Rock n Roll. Out.
Im simply asking if your flying yet. I personally look forward to your return!
:aok
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I would call the Aces High Training Corps members to share their opinion about this. Please, Gentlemen!
My last day with the Trainers is Sept 30th. The reason I am leaving is not because of any disagreement, but I simply don't have the time to properly commit to the obligation.
I have to admit that I do see a lot of resemblance between the Damned and Loose Deuce when they started. Both groups have the same flying style and the same approach to the game. Yes, I flew with Loose Deuce for a short time during my "Delirium's Traveling Circus" so I feel confident to say this.
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Sigh.
It doesn't matter how many threads you start to get people to buy off on the HO as a viable of component of ACM, it will always be looked upon as a lazy and generally frowned upon method of engaging in virtual combat. I truly hope the population here doesn't ever start to beleive the junk you post as it would be detrimental to overall gameplay in my opinion.
Thank you for the feedback, sir. I thoroughly enjoyed our last 7 or so fights!
:salute
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People take head on, front quarter shots on the streets.....for stats? :O
Damn, dude, where do you live?! Compton?
No, a woman selling her body for money...the result may be the same, but there's no satisfaction in it. same for stat queens and hoers....what do your stats prove? no one dang thing. Latrobe's stats meant something...you know he EARNED them, not that he cared...those who advocate for the Ho haven't really done anything...so the stats don't matter. You can say look at my stats! and those who know anything look and say....game the game, stat queen.
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No, a woman selling her body for money...the result may be the same, but there's no satisfaction in it. same for stat queens and hoers....what do your stats prove? no one dang thing. Latrobe's stats meant something...you know he EARNED them, not that he cared...those who advocate for the Ho haven't really done anything...so the stats don't matter. You can say look at my stats! and those who know anything look and say....game the game, stat queen.
Let me ask you, then. Here was a fight, with you, from when I had only been in the game ~3 months or so (I uploaded it some months later as I was clearing out old Fraps files):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpoNWMuXbx0
Admittedly, my flying is no longer that rough. However, I did manage to win. So with that, does that kill count? If that kill counts, and I am capable of indeed beating you (which I've done several times since - fun fights by the way), then why should I make the effort of purposely prolonging the fight when I know with high probability how that fight will turn out?
If I know I can win, and I can do so either in 10 seconds or 10 minutes, why should I opt to waste 9 minutes and 50 seconds for the same result?
Are you saying that even if I could with with 100% repeatability, that only the fights where choose to fly by my opponent's preference should count? Or are you saying I need X amount of kills to "prove" myself? If the latter, how many times must I kill someone to earn the right for those stats?
I'm curious as to your answer.
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A child will prefer a fresh potato chip to a soggy one. But if his choice is between a soggy potato chip and no potato chip at all, he will settle for the soggy one. A child prefers positive attention to negative attention. But if the choice is between negative attention and no attention at all he will choose negative attention...
Sound like anyone familiar?
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Nilsen......
COOOOEEEEEEEEEEE
NILSEN
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/NilsenTroll.jpg) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/NilsenTroll.jpg.html)
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Gentlemen, I once proposed an *official* code of rules that would get rid of HOing, as well as some other "naughty" tactics. Perhaps if there had been a large amount of support from the playerbase Hitech would have considered it, but not a *single* person on this BBS thought it was a good idea. So what exactly is the deal here? You don't want actual rules against the "naughty" but often effective tactics, rules that someone could be assured that their fellow players would ALSO be following. No, you wish to leave it a situation where everyone can and many do use such tactics whenever it seems advantageous? And it is obvious that the group of those who will resort to these tactics often includes many people who *rail* against said tactics on threads like these. :devil
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,362889.msg4825558.html#msg4825558 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,362889.msg4825558.html#msg4825558)
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Oh yes...Hoin when being jumped on by 4 other cons is a different kettle of fish....
Yep.....but ive seen you fighting 3 or 4 people and not Ho-ing (weather you were red icon or green) :salute
Actually, when i look down and see a KI / 109F on the deck twisting and turning against 3 or 4 cons (and taking them to task) its you :lol I just wait for you to kill them then come down for a visit :D
i might have a running account soon enough
Hope to see ya soon Debrody :aok be good having ya back in game
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Yep.....but ive seen you fighting 3 or 4 people and not Ho-ing (weather you were red icon or green) :salute
Actually, when i look down and see a KI on the deck twisting and turning against 3 or 4 cons (and taking them to task) its you :lol
Unlike 99% of players including those who preach constantly on this bbs, Tongs actually does follow "the code" and deliberately put himself at a disadvantage every single time. WITHOUT the preaching. Thus when practical I often try not to be one of Tongs' attackers, unless it is 1v1. I'm not obligated to do so, but as Tongs is the ONE player who actually follows bloody code as far as I can tell, I like doing so. He's never not in the weeds in a Ki-61, if he were tooling around in a 15K F4U or a Ki84 and pretending these are not VERY formidable planes, my attitude would be different. :aok
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I am one of those who simply does not understand what the problem with the HO is. By extension, I do not have a problem with people learning to do it well.
I have said it many times on 200 and my position will not change ever (in the MA)- In a WW2 era fighter plane you know that my guns face forward and fire forward. If you allow your aircraft to be in that cone of fire I WILL take the shot. It really is that simple.
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Please delete and lock this thread, and bury it deep under a concrete slab.
Thanks
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Just gauging the interest levels here -
Who here would be interested in improving, or even mastering, their front-quarter shots? As many can vouch, it is quite an effective skill and one that not only produces tons of kills, but a lot of gameplay satisfaction.
This "jousting" session would potentially cover such subjects as:
- How to easily read even the best turnfighters and hit them at the merge.
- How to aim and maneuver big-cannoned planes that are naturally suited for jousting.
- How to maintain energy levels and easily avoid the turnfight, permitting yourself to set back up for another joust.
- How to make 600-800yd kills regularly with 30mm-armed aircraft.
- How to win the joust against another jouster (typically those who get frustrated by your previous successful jousts).
- How to consistently succeed in your jousts!
- How to joust against multiple opponents.
And so on.
Again, this is just a concept. Any interest?
:salute
Anyone interested in the training offered above should consider joining JG5 and learning to dogfight from Dolby...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTHQsXhS_7k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTHQsXhS_7k)
:salute
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(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/smiley.gif) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/Skyrock67/media/smiley.gif.html)
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I read the first page and no more.
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I didn't think I'd get quite the response I have. I received several messages of interest, mostly ingame PM's and even a few through YouTube - looks like we are a GO!
What format would everyone prefer this to be in? I've never held a "class" before, so I'm not sure what the typical accepted format here is.
Any input would be appreciated - thank you!
:salute
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I read the first page and no more.
Don't be that way! :D
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I read the first page and no more.
ahhhh just put 4 or 5 of these clowns on "ignore" and you can blow through this thread in a few minutes. :devil
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(http://media.desura.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/heresyveinpopping.png)
Ahh... that open-mindedness about ideas and beliefs other than your own! :old:
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You're late.. again..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1NkrGE5c0
really good thread on this.. but I failed to find it.. 8)
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I am a knight, jousting is required in my country :banana:.
semp
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You're late.. again..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1NkrGE5c0
really good thread on this.. but I failed to find it.. 8)
:rofl :rofl :aok
I miss you guys :(
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I didn't think I'd get quite the response I have. I received several messages of interest, mostly ingame PM's and even a few through YouTube - looks like we are a GO!
What format would everyone prefer this to be in? I've never held a "class" before, so I'm not sure what the typical accepted format here is.
Any input would be appreciated - thank you!
:salute
Here are some ideas for the name of your class:
1. How To Fly Like Aces High Is An Xbox Game
2. Kill With No Skill
3. I Can Joust But I Can't Fly!
:salute
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"Jousting"??
Is that what we call it now?
Whoever has the sturdiest steed and wields the biggest potato?
Somebody let HTC know they can fire the trainers and close the TA down, looks like we won't need them anymore.
This whole thread has stretched my medulla oblongata to it's limit.
I think I must be an old Dinosaur.
RTR
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HO lessons?
what else. He IS the master at it
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Let me ask you, then. Here was a fight, with you, from when I had only been in the game ~3 months or so (I uploaded it some months later as I was clearing out old Fraps files):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpoNWMuXbx0
Admittedly, my flying is no longer that rough. However, I did manage to win. So with that, does that kill count? If that kill counts, and I am capable of indeed beating you (which I've done several times since - fun fights by the way), then why should I make the effort of purposely prolonging the fight when I know with high probability how that fight will turn out?
If I know I can win, and I can do so either in 10 seconds or 10 minutes, why should I opt to waste 9 minutes and 50 seconds for the same result?
Are you saying that even if I could with with 100% repeatability, that only the fights where choose to fly by my opponent's preference should count? Or are you saying I need X amount of kills to "prove" myself? If the latter, how many times must I kill someone to earn the right for those stats?
I'm curious as to your answer.
Why is it relevant that the fights were fun? In this film your opponent had several shot opportunities on you. HOing him would have been far safer as well as more time efficient for you but unfortunately you were facing the wrong way. Like several of your films.
I didn't think I'd get quite the response I have. I received several messages of interest, mostly ingame PM's and even a few through YouTube - looks like we are a GO!
Did you? One would of thought replying in this thread would have been more facilitatory for everyone. Can you give a list of those who are interested?
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Ok... who cloned Shane? :rolleyes:
I dont remember Shane (the original not current) as being much of a HOer. And I used to hunt him regularly
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You're late.. again..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1NkrGE5c0
really good thread on this.. but I failed to find it.. 8)
Game of Drones
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You're late.. again..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1NkrGE5c0
really good thread on this.. but I failed to find it.. 8)
I haven't laughed that hard in a while. :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Skyyr Go take a nice walk.
In space.
On the Sun.
Don't come back.
Yeah, that'd be great.
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This thread (http://ao-upload-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/epic-fail-gifs-waterslide-fail.gif)
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Just like when encountering anyone from your squad. It's always a team effort.
Your an easy kill
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You're late.. again..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1NkrGE5c0
really good thread on this.. but I failed to find it.. 8)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
My feeling on HOs....I've recently started doing them more because of people taking multiple HO passes, so the third I've been just shooting back...used to not do any at all...maybe some questionable ones every once in a while but none deliberately. They are for the most part easy to avoid, against people with good aim....such as 2cmex...it's a lot harder.(really not hard to hit with an n1k) I don't do it because I'm thinking about the other guy, maybe he only has time for 1-3 sorties a week/month, I don't want to take the gameplay from him with a cheap shot.
Picking....that's something I can, and do pretty well amongst the community. It is harder to have the SA to set it up but at the same time, IMO easier to avoid/ push the fight further past the 3-5 seconds it will take to complete a HO.
You do you...I'll do me....still going to call it as I see it...a cheap shot.
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Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.
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:lol
Most enjoyable. Especially given about half those who have posted I have been HO'ed by (successfully and unsuccessfully) in the past.
So remember, kiddies...HOs are not OK....except when they are. :) :aok
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You're late.. again..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1NkrGE5c0
really good thread on this.. but I failed to find it.. 8)
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The joust!! <S>Grizz and <S>SunBat
Edit: A fine representation of Jousting fairies, lol
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:lol
Most enjoyable. Especially given about half those who have posted I have been HO'ed by (successfully and unsuccessfully) in the past.
So remember, kiddies...HOs are not OK....except when they are. :) :aok
Are they on Youtube? Then they don't count :aok
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100% troll, nothing more, nothing less.
Excuse me, but in light of your remarks on this topic, I think you really ought to address what appears to be an unprovoked attempted HO on the merge by you.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6rnltr2sb7oszo1/109K4I16Ratascreenie_1750.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/6rnltr2sb7oszo1/109K4I16Ratascreenie_1750.ahf)
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You're late.. again..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1NkrGE5c0
really good thread on this.. but I failed to find it.. 8)
watched it again...still hilarious. Found this old video too...not enough tators chuckers around anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdT6isL6gPk&list=UU3MoFVoYnhw3a1no3_jPqPQ
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Excuse me, but in light of your remarks on this topic, I think you really ought to address what appears to be an unprovoked attempted HO on the merge by you.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6rnltr2sb7oszo1/109K4I16Ratascreenie_1750.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/6rnltr2sb7oszo1/109K4I16Ratascreenie_1750.ahf)
Oh be quiet BoneZ. I mean Batmannn. I mean.....
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100% troll, nothing more, nothing less.
This.
It would be a lot easier to take the OP at his word if he didn't ridicule his victims and/or make excuses every time he gets his rear end shot off... Judging by 200 he is always AFK or being ganged 5:1 when he dies. *eyeroll*
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Oh be quiet BoneZ. I mean Batmannn. I mean.....
Alas, from things like this I see the paranoia has taken your mind completely. For this I am truly sorry.
Be quiet? Why? You never were, here or on 200. Even when friends, people who unlike some didn't treat you like a mangy dog simply for being a new player and existing, were gently urging you to reign it in a bit. You haven't changed your behaviors of course, you've just pointed them in a different direction while flying with a different tag at the end of your name. So with typical AH hypocrisy and lack of objectivity these behaviors are now supposedly acceptable.
*sigh* Have fun cuddling up with the same high-school clique mentalities who only a short time ago were all too happy to mock you unprovoked, label you a "coward", a liar, and worse.
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I'm confused a little...I'm sure that you stated in another thread that you found there to be no or very lacking competition within AH and yet you don't actually want competition at all... The only person you are competing against is yourself....you say above that you could see they were looking to set up for an angles fight which inevitably could turn into a competitive turn fight using all the (and more than real sometimes) abilities of the aircraft you have chosen for the sortie and yet you want to take the sucker punch because it looks better on the score card....
sure it does in one respect...but in another it means jack within the over all game dynamic that is AH... if score really matters there are others that will keep a lifetime achievement score... You are totally driven by score and ...in reality a very small part of an over all scoring system.... so this must mean from my unskilled, bad grammatical, summation that you you need a chest to pin it to.....
Don't get me wrong...as it is said it is your $15.... but AH has never been a typical arcadish style fighter game to me which is what kept me wanting to log in more and more.... this is not the case these days... it is a shame from my perspective (numbers could be a factor here though...the majority staying are..well.... not my people so to speak)
Out of curiosity...how many other flight sims have you been/are a part of.
Oh yes...Hoin when being jumped on by 4 other cons is a different kettle of fish....
My sentiments too Tongs, Must be a Southern Hemisphere thing.
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I think I must be an old Dinosaur.
You're not alone. That the troll stirred up so much support makes me feel even older...Puts me in mind of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsAFdZRRAFk
- oldman
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*sigh* Have fun cuddling up with the same high-school clique mentalities who only a short time ago were all too happy to mock you unprovoked, label you a "coward", a liar, and worse.
This smacks of Loser-in-high-school syndrome which seems to be highly contagious and running rampant lately. How perfect
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac300/Changeup1/demotivational-poster-10123.jpg) (http://s909.photobucket.com/user/Changeup1/media/demotivational-poster-10123.jpg.html)
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Are they on Youtube? Then they don't count :aok
Why yes, my good man, some are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv4OGkJX-OU&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv4OGkJX-OU&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A)
:lol
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Loser-in-high-school syndrome which seems to be highly contagious and running rampant lately.
Coming from a lead promoter of silly video game "machismo", this is pretty funny. On second thought, Peaked-In-Highschool-Syndrome seems a more likely origin for that sort. ;)
(http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/5/7/2/8/8/original/an-ad-hominem-attack-your-argument-must-be-really-strong.jpg)
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So how bout that Uniform Rule Code gentlemen? :D
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Coming from a lead promoter of silly video game "machismo", this is pretty funny. On second thought, Peaked-In-Highschool-Syndrome seems a more likely origin for that sort. ;)
(http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/5/7/2/8/8/original/an-ad-hominem-attack-your-argument-must-be-really-strong.jpg)
And you rise above the ad hominem so well. Thanks for making mah point. :D. You manage to wade around in the muck with the people you call pigs just fine.
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Vraciu and yourself are the ones who chose to take the discussion down that road. I can be fired upon but not fire back? Makes sense, that is also how certain hypocrites want it when it comes to HOs. :D
And you rise above the ad hominem so well. Thanks for making mah point. :D. You manage to wade around in the muck with the people you call pigs just fine.
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Skyyr seems to be going through all of the stages of The Beginners 101 course:
Cutting engine - doesn't work
Putting gear down- doesn't work
Trying to get the best HO shot- doesn't work
Trying to act dominant on the BBs when you really don't know jack about the overall game yet- doesn't work
The only thing I've heard so far from the duels I've heard about are how using this " front quarter shot" is pretty much your only cheap effective technique when you both turn back in after the merge or you go for the E rope maneuver and BnZ the rest of the fight.
Sounds like such a fun and exhilerating match for all involved. :rolleyes:
Grannit, I'll give you some acknowledgment of your progress so far and 2v2s- you have the passion. Even I did all these things when I first started. But I learned real quick there are much more effective techniques, that is why this is so funny.
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See Rule #4
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Skyyr seems to be going through all of the stages of The Beginners 101 course:
Cutting engine - doesn't work
Putting gear down- doesn't work
Trying to get the best HO shot- doesn't work
Trying to act dominant on the BBs when you really don't know jack about the overall game yet- doesn't work
The only thing I've heard so far from the duels I've heard about are how using this " front quarter shot" is pretty much your only cheap effective technique when you both turn back in after the merge or you go for the E rope maneuver and BnZ the rest of the fight.
Sounds like such a fun and exhilerating match for all involved. :rolleyes:
Grannit, I'll give you some acknowledgment of your progress so far and 2v2s- you have the passion. Even I did all these things when I first started. But I learned real quick there are much more effective techniques, that is why this is so funny.
Interesting that he has recycled the Personaility trait thread and Sunbats Joust troll thread from 2010. I agree. There's not much originality there, including the Cmex Method of scoring. Simply ramp up the fighter score safely early in the month and fly attack mode for the balance of the month. Kill points will suffer but cheapo none-the-less.
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Skyyr seems to be going through all of the stages of The Beginners 101 course:
Cutting engine - doesn't work
I don't know....it seems to work fine for him, at least based on what I've seen to date. Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AosmWgMOvak&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AosmWgMOvak&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A)
Putting gear down- doesn't work
Trying to get the best HO shot- doesn't work
Can't say I've ever seen him drop gear...but I see lots of dedicated Hog pilots do it so it's working for someone.
FYI - I think we covered HOs in my prior post...but hey, why not a refresher:
Why yes, my good man, some are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv4OGkJX-OU&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv4OGkJX-OU&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A)
:lol
:)
Trying to act dominant on the BBs when you really don't know jack about the overall game yet- doesn't work
The only thing I've heard so far from the duels I've heard about are how using this " front quarter shot" is pretty much your only cheap effective technique when you both turn back in after the merge or you go for the E rope maneuver and BnZ the rest of the fight.
Sounds like such a fun and exhilerating match for all involved. :rolleyes:
Grannit, I'll give you some acknowledgment of your progress so far and 2v2s- you have the passion. Even I did all these things when I first started. But I learned real quick there are much more effective techniques, that is why this is so funny.
The rest I leave for Skyyr to address, if he so chooses.
BTW...I think you mean to type "Granted".
:headscratch:
I'm curious, Violator. Since you have listed all the things in Skyyr's "bag of tricks" that do not work.......have you fought him 1v1?
Interesting that he has recycled the Personaility trait thread and Sunbats Joust troll thread from 2010. I agree. There's not much originality there, including the Cmex Method of scoring. Simply ramp up the fighter score safely early in the month and fly attack mode for the balance of the month. Kill points will suffer but cheapo none-the-less.
I've asked you the same question, Changeup, but let me ask again: Have you fought Skyyr 1v1 yet?
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See Rules #2, #4
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fZlglKlB3sY
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See Rule #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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And yet another thread heads down "Damned vs. AoM" road... a road with a definite downward slope. Indeed, some would call it a road that races to the bottom.
Not this dancing banana, though, woh is yet again IN before the lock and is still totally awesome. :banana:
Meanwhile, as for the OP, yes, the HO can be quite satisfying, especially when done with impunity against a turnier or otherwise advantaged bird and is entirely VALID and was even used IRL. Of course, the fq shot is even better, since there is less opportunity for taking damage.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fZlglKlB3sY
Well flown and good shooting sir! :aok
Oh, wait, that's not the official party line. I'll try again-How unfair of you to not let the Yak3, which started out with all the advantages, pass through your arc of fire unscathed! Obviously you are a bad timid person who is afraid of REAL video game fighting. You should have spent minutes jostling for a dead six shot while the rest of his air force quite probably came swooping in on you for the pick. You are probably mean to animals in your real life-There, that sound about right? :rolleyes:
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I'm curious, Violator. Since you have listed all the things in Skyyr's "bag of tricks" that do not work.......have you fought him 1v1?
Nope. Skyyr won't go to the DA despite repeated challenges from Violator. Talk about hypocrisy! Kast has it in spades! I think he is skeered.
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Skyyr seems to be going through all of the stages of The Beginners 101 course:
Cutting engine - doesn't work
Putting gear down- doesn't work
Trying to get the best HO shot- doesn't work
Trying to act dominant on the BBs when you really don't know jack about the overall game yet- doesn't work
The only thing I've heard so far from the duels I've heard about are how using this " front quarter shot" is pretty much your only cheap effective technique when you both turn back in after the merge or you go for the E rope maneuver and BnZ the rest of the fight.
Sounds like such a fun and exhilerating match for all involved. :rolleyes:
Grannit, I'll give you some acknowledgment of your progress so far and 2v2s- you have the passion. Even I did all these things when I first started. But I learned real quick there are much more effective techniques, that is why this is so funny.
Bluntly, I'm not interested in what you did or how you view me. If you declare that cutting engine doesn't work, that's fine - certain of your members who've lost DA 1v1's might disagree, but I'm not interested in arguing.
Putting the gear down? I can honestly say I've never done that... though certain Muppets have. Yet again, did you think before accusing? Or did you mean to backhandedly insult your own members?
Trying to act dominant? That would imply that I would care about being somehow over the typical personas here, which is a relatively low bar to set. Irreverent would have been the better word choice.
In the last 10-15 1v1 fights I've had in the DA (actual duels), I've only used a front-quarter shot once. In fact, if Changeup would ever make good on his 1v1 challenge (that he's issued over 200 and I accepted the last time), most of you would probably have to drop that excuse.
In the end, though, it doesn't matter. I play to do one thing: put my guns on you and shoot your flaming wreckage down. Whether the guns are in front of you or behind you matters not - the bullets kill all the same.
Tour 175: 33 - 9. :rofl
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See Rules #2, #4
Not directly. But you know my issue with you and never bothered to respond. In truth, you are one of the nicer, more laid back guys in this game. But enough with the multiple personalities on the boards. Post with one and leave it. I think it would be an interesting series of fights. But I guess we will never know...
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See Rules #2, #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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I don't know....it seems to work fine for him, at least based on what I've seen to date. Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AosmWgMOvak&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AosmWgMOvak&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A)
Can't say I've ever seen him drop gear...but I see lots of dedicated Hog pilots do it so it's working for someone.
FYI - I think we covered HOs in my prior post...but hey, why not a refresher:
:)
The rest I leave for Skyyr to address, if he so chooses.
BTW...I think you mean to type "Granted".
:headscratch:
I'm curious, Violator. Since you have listed all the things in Skyyr's "bag of tricks" that do not work.......have you fought him 1v1?
I've asked you the same question, Changeup, but let me ask again: Have you fought Skyyr 1v1 yet?
Okay, I'll break it down.
1. In that film, not cutting his engine would have yielded the same results. It is stupid to cut engine considering how much it kills your E state, and seconds lost while it starts back up. (Keep doing it though please!). If fugitive would have simply pulled up into his own loop/rope instead of turning down, he may would have won. Killing your engine will ultimately cause you to stall heavily and if the person you are fighting knows how to acquire E off you, you won't last.
2. No, only stupid hog pilots lower their gear. They will not be successful vs another plane that can acquire E during the fight. Lowering gear will decrease your E tremendously and may be good if the person you are fighting doesn't know what to do. But against a hog pilot who does, they will easily out climb or high loop the F4U with gear down. Once you put the gear down, you have no chance of aquirung E against your opponent and you will be stuck in stall. Your only chance with gear down is if the guy goes right into a turn hard roll right from the start and you quick ability to slow down may help you get the kill against the less advanced.
3. HOes are for noobs who cant figure out how to correctly use ACM, so they go for silly HO shots to hopefully get the kill. While you may think they are effective, it is simply a silly tactic to use considering the % of time you both get hurt or die. If after the merge you both come around to HO position and actually shoot, that is just lame sauce. Anyone can shoot. That doesn't prove skill. If you fly planes like the 190D with supurb climbing and excel, it is simple to pull an easy head on shot and run away or pull into a climb with tons of E. However, my dodge techniques will beat you in your pull up, though sometimes VS a 190D of course it will out climb anything and may be more difficult. Learning the HO adds no skills, it just allows you to get shot down more for practicing "being good at HOs". The only thing you will get out of this is how to suck more in fights.
I am just writing what I've heard about the fights so far. I personally hate fighting people like this in the DA because the fights are boring as hell. But I'll still go. I haven't had the opportunity, nor has be considered from the past forum shout outs. But it happen one day.
I know non of this works because I tried all that crap and was convinced too for a short time too when I was experimenting with the game
But you go on, keep doing it. I just know how to beat these technicalities.
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I will have to respectfully ask everyone to please stay on topic. Again, this topic is about jousting and affording others, specifically new players, the opportunity to become masters at it.
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I will have to respectfully ask everyone to please stay on topic. Again, this topic is about jousting and affording others, specifically new players, the opportunity to become masters at it.
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Yes I whole heartedly agree. The more new players who choose this irreversible fork in the road the better for me :rock
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I will have to respectfully ask everyone to please stay on topic. Again, this topic is about jousting and affording others, specifically new players, the opportunity to become masters at it.
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Apologies for the topic fork. Please continue. :aok
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"I am dinkas, I am skyyr, I am darned if I do, I am darned if I don't" J/K - best of luck with your training attempt.
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At this point, this thread is really not offering anything positive to the community.
If someone wants help, they can make use of the PM system on the board to contact whoever they want to contact for help.