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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SWkiljoy on September 15, 2014, 05:01:13 PM
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As I read the BBS and see all of these "Sorry, been fun" posts lately. Only thing I can think of is what happens when this major update comes into the big picture and all the bugs worked out, all of these "Cya Later" posts will turn into a simple "I'm back, had to check out these awesome graphics...second guessing why i left in the first place?" :D
Or are they all simply "Leaving" just to try to make HTC force the update to a sooner installment date which is the ultimatum of this crazy insanity as of late? :headscratch:
Inquiring minds would like to know.... :O
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They are leaving to get the torrent of salutes, then fly as shades.
Everyone would like to witness their own funeral.
Some truly quit, but that is a normal cycle for the players population. Chances are that if they played this game for more than a year they'll be back. I dont remember how many times I quit. In fact, I am going to quit now and resubscribe tomorrow evening. To all the great AH players and HTC <S> :salute Perhaps we shall meet again.
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No, I think the game has become stale for most of them. Anyone's who's been playing for awhile, has to admit the game has changed. People are gonna play it they way they see fit. Personally I hate the new style that has taken hold in the MA. It's harder and harder to find a decent fight where I can hone my skills. Rather.. most nites I just feel like a rabbit in a pack of foxes, zigging and zagging, neck on a swivel just trying to survive. You finally maneuver onto somebody's six.. and you're picked off.
Im sticking around in hopes that Hitec has put so much time into this new graphics update, that he'll want to make the other changes that SO many players have recommended in order to save the game. (I personally don't believe prettier trees and water are gonna do it) Until then, i'll keep myself happy searching the skies for decent 1v1's and trying out the special events.
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They are leaving to get the torrent of salutes, then fly as shades.
Everyone would like to witness their own funeral.
Extremely insightful... and dare I say, "spot on."
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Some are bored
Some are busy
Some rage quit in a tizzy
Some vow forever
Or get banned in shame
These two types just change their name
Amax (Formerly Aspen)
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They are leaving to get the torrent of salutes, then fly as shades.
Everyone would like to witness their own funeral.
This. Lots of this going on lately. Some have had shades for quite some time. It's kind of like a little cry for help to see who's listening. Very pathetic actually.
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The only person I truly know about is me. I've quit many times. Always quietly. And I usually decline the "why did you leave" question. It's usually "I don't have time to play" or "my internet connection makes the game unplayable".
There's only one thing that has ever made me rage quit - cv puffy ack. I could do immediate evasives and the ack would still be exploding right in front of me. Those AI gunners are psychic! How do they know where I'm going. It takes a long time for puffy ack to get to 23k alt. How can it explode in front of you right after you pulled a high g turn with a major alt change to get away.
Lately, if I wonder into cv puffy ack in a TA152, I'm on fire after the first few pings.
I even lost a 262 at 23k alt to fire from cv puffy ack recently. That's right, "snap", oh crap I'm in cv ack, "crackle", "pop", and to the tower.
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Try flying a fairly low set of bombers directly towards the CV group. Then you will be perfectly safe from puffy. :rolleyes:
The only person I truly know about is me. I've quit many times. Always quietly. And I usually decline the "why did you leave" question. It's usually "I don't have time to play" or "my internet connection makes the game unplayable".
There's only one thing that has ever made me rage quit - cv puffy ack. I could do immediate evasives and the ack would still be exploding right in front of me. Those AI gunners are psychic! How do they know where I'm going. It takes a long time for puffy ack to get to 23k alt. How can it explode in front of you right after you pulled a high g turn with a major alt change to get away.
Lately, if I wonder into cv puffy ack in a TA152, I'm on fire after the first few pings.
I even lost a 262 at 23k alt to fire from cv puffy ack recently. That's right, "snap", oh crap I'm in cv ack, "crackle", "pop", and to the tower.
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or just get close to an enemy con ;)
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I think you and bozon are correct. It appears to me that many are quitting, perhaps hoping that if enough people do, it will force HTC to push the new release out faster. Kinda' childish for the ones
doing so.
I'm sure some folks left for the reasons that they gave and may come back after some time. I left the game way before this update was ever mentioned, due to no finances. Things are looking up though, so
hopefully I'll be back soon. (even if the update is not ready..)
Coogan :salute
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As I read the BBS and see all of these "Sorry, been fun" posts lately. Only thing I can think of is what happens when this major update comes into the big picture and all the bugs worked out, all of these "Cya Later" posts will turn into a simple "I'm back, had to check out these awesome graphics...second guessing why i left in the first place?" Big Grin
Or are they all simply "Leaving" just to try to make HTC force the update to a sooner installment date which is the ultimatum of this crazy insanity as of late? headscratch
Frankly, I've seen these posts, or variants of them, for the past ten years, and although many have threatened to leave, and some have actually left, Aces High is still here.
I regret that real life has interfered with my game time over the past two years, but, I am still here and have no intention to leave. Those who wish to leave because graphics take priority to their game play may leave, and have always left; those who stay, and have always stayed, stay because the challenge is great and uncompromising.
...just a thought...
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They are leaving to get the torrent of salutes, then fly as shades.
Everyone would like to witness their own funeral.
Some truly quit, but that is a normal cycle for the players population. Chances are that if they played this game for more than a year they'll be back. I dont remember how many times I quit. In fact, I am going to quit now and resubscribe tomorrow evening. To all the great AH players and HTC <S> :salute Perhaps we shall meet again.
Interesting perspective, never thought of it that way.
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Sometimes quitting is the best thing you can do to AH. If you start to build up ego and stress about deaths, score etc. issues - a break is in order.
I found that the enjoyment from game was much higher after I switched names and started from zero, concentrating on the fun part and not worrying about k/d or similar distractions. Going for a high k/d had its own fun but it made you stress about every death. I found that I don't play games for stress, I play to relieve it.
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Sometimes quitting is the best thing you can do to AH. If you start to build up ego and stress about deaths, score etc. issues - a break is in order.
I found that the enjoyment from game was much higher after I switched names and started from zero, concentrating on the fun part and not worrying about k/d or similar distractions. Going for a high k/d had its own fun but it made you stress about every death. I found that I don't play games for stress, I play to relieve it.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Sometimes quitting is the best thing you can do to AH. If you start to build up ego and stress about deaths, score etc. issues - a break is in order.
I found that the enjoyment from game was much higher after I switched names and started from zero, concentrating on the fun part and not worrying about k/d or similar distractions. Going for a high k/d had its own fun but it made you stress about every death. I found that I don't play games for stress, I play to relieve it.
A good clearing of the head helps bring back the enjoyment of the game.
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I've been out of the game for a while. Still tune into the boards, though. Have the desire to come back, but I don't think I'll be pursuing the start of a squad or bomb group again. Still too many other things going on.
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I can :airplane: to just about any enemy base and start a fight. I don't care how many are on someone will up to engage you in a battle. There are some good 1v1 or 1v2 battles that way. You sound like a follower just going where the rest of the group goes.
No, I think the game has become stale for most of them. Anyone's who's been playing for awhile, has to admit the game has changed. People are gonna play it they way they see fit. Personally I hate the new style that has taken hold in the MA. It's harder and harder to find a decent fight where I can hone my skills. Rather.. most nites I just feel like a rabbit in a pack of foxes, zigging and zagging, neck on a swivel just trying to survive. You finally maneuver onto somebody's six.. and you're picked off.
Im sticking around in hopes that Hitec has put so much time into this new graphics update, that he'll want to make the other changes that SO many players have recommended in order to save the game. (I personally don't believe prettier trees and water are gonna do it) Until then, i'll keep myself happy searching the skies for decent 1v1's and trying out the special events.
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<snip> Personally I hate the new style that has taken hold in the MA. It's harder and harder to find a decent fight where I can hone my skills. Rather.. most nites I just feel like a rabbit in a pack of foxes, zigging and zagging, neck on a swivel just trying to survive. You finally maneuver onto somebody's six.. and you're picked off.
Get out of that spit and get off the deck. A Spit can't catch a cold...
While I am not saying you are one of them, but I hear a lot of Spit players saying they are being ganged, and it's no surprise. I have a lot of 1v1, 1v2's, but the happen over 10K, and in a plane that isn't a turny bird... Branch out a little and you may find the fights you are looking for.
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Get out of that spit and get off the deck. A Spit can't catch a cold...
While I am not saying you are one of them, but I hear a lot of Spit players saying they are being ganged, and it's no surprise. I have a lot of 1v1, 1v2's, but the happen over 10K, and in a plane that isn't a turny bird... Branch out a little and you may find the fights you are looking for.
I was locked in a fight 10k over and a little north of an enemy base in my mossy fighting a 39 for a few mins and having fun, when a pony jumped in and decided to join the fight I wound up targeting the pony after he missed his shot, pulled in behind and took his wing off. Before re-engaging the 39 and killing him. Copped a PM having a go at me for needing alt to do anything... From the pony driver lol.
Dweebs like that drive people out of the game.
I left a couple years ago as I was over the bananas. Came back after about 9 months later feeling better than I had for a long time.
I don't think people leaving is about trying to hurry the new terrains, I think it's more about people who need to step away for a while after they hit the wall, as all long term players need to do from time to time
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I was locked in a fight 10k over and a little north of an enemy base in my mossy fighting a 39 for a few mins and having fun, when a pony jumped in and decided to join the fight I wound up targeting the pony after he missed his shot, pulled in behind and took his wing off. Before re-engaging the 39 and killing him. Copped a PM having a go at me for needing alt to do anything... From the pony driver lol.
Hey, I think I might have been that 39 you were talking about. It was a pretty good fight. Just the thing I need to get better in the Airacobra.
On the subject of people leaving and coming back after updates I suppose I can't say much. I've played Aces High on and off in spurts since the summer of 2006. When I could get away with it. I always got the feeling to come back after aircraft additions, generally it was only to try out the aircraft offline though. I definitely never felt the need to say bye though, as I'm obviously not a very active forum member.
But when it comes to things like people posting about leaving I have to agree with Bozon here.
They are leaving to get the torrent of salutes, then fly as shades.
Everyone would like to witness their own funeral.
Though, this isn't always true, I would assume
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They are leaving to get the torrent of salutes, then fly as shades.
Everyone would like to witness their own funeral.
Some truly quit, but that is a normal cycle for the players population. Chances are that if they played this game for more than a year they'll be back. I dont remember how many times I quit. In fact, I am going to quit now and resubscribe tomorrow evening. To all the great AH players and HTC <S> :salute Perhaps we shall meet again.
To point one, this is a disappointing reality. But there are some circumstances where an identity change is good for everybody.
Point two, the downward membership curves in AH correspond generally to the state of the economy. Aces High is only 16 bucks a month you might say. And maybe a little more per month to maintain an internet connection. And a little bit more to replace a broken joystick, a blown motherboard, an obsolete GPU...
So things add up and if a person is out of work, or had to take less hours, or take a second job to make ends meet, then you have a much more sobering reason for resignations and a 'feeling' that the game is dying. I agree with 'more than a year'. Mastery of this game is hard earned...like an investment. Few would want to walk away from that forever.
:salute
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People leave when they finally realize that they have been sitting on their arses staring at a screen getting fat for far too long, wasting precious and unrecoverable time in real life. Long time gaming is a recipe for disfunction and an early demise, especially when you are older and retired. We have all been guilty of this. For the addicted and long time gamers, health, the family or lifestyle usually pays a price.....
....there is no investment.....no benefit......nothing......the time and money spent in here is wasted.......thats the reality.....people finally realize this and leave......
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I understand.
I have been on the rough edges of that myself. In other words, I have experience.
The wise (and willful) will seek a balance in life. Which is what you didn't say.
The investment I speak of is analogous to any acquired skill or knowledge.
"Find the Balance" is a watch phrase for the guys I fly with. I have, more than once, been called down for large jumps in my on-line hours. I am accountable to my family and real life, of course. But I am grateful for on-line friends that have permission to nudge each other for over-indulgence.
I submit that it's GOOD to see and confront addiction. My point here is "finding the balance" is critical to all aspects of life and playing a game a few hours a week should not be precluded from that balance. It is the assumption I made for the 'investment' example.
Since you are still posting on this board, you still have an affinity and concern about the community.
:salute
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People leave when they finally realize that they have been sitting on their arses staring at a screen getting fat for far too long, wasting precious and unrecoverable time in real life. Long time gaming is a recipe for disfunction and an early demise, especially when you are older and retired. We have all been guilty of this. For the addicted and long time gamers, health, the family or lifestyle usually pays a price.....
....there is no investment.....no benefit......nothing......the time spent in here is wasted.......thats the reality.....people finally realize this and leave......
not sure if serious or joking :headscratch:
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People leave when they finally realize that they have been sitting on their arses staring at a screen getting fat for far too long, wasting precious and unrecoverable time in real life. Long time gaming is a recipe for disfunction and an early demise, especially when you are older and retired. We have all been guilty of this. For the addicted and long time gamers, health, the family or lifestyle usually pays a price.....
....there is no investment.....no benefit......nothing......the time and money spent in here is wasted.......thats the reality.....people finally realize this and leave......
Absolutely ridiculous, unless this is about you personally Canspec. This is a game, we all get that. Is going to the park and playing chess also a complete waste of time? How about reading a book. Both of those examples and Aces high is about being a consumer, enjoying what you have earned. While I grant you, we are not producers because we play Aces High, it is certainly more than just a waste of time and money. Either that or everything you do that is not producing something is also a waste of time. Sorry, no it does not work that way.
On the other hand, if you receive no value from playing Aces High, (happiness, friendship, fun, etc>), maybe you should look back to yourself and see if Aces High is good for you. If it isn't then change something, but in the mean time, speak for yourself.
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Well....I have recently heard that surgeons who played video games have a better quality and completion time rate over non video game playing surgeons.....so maybe I'm a little off on the benefit one.....and I do believe that spatial thinking can be enhanced by certain types of game play......so maybe time spent in here is not wasted......hmmm.........
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not sure if serious or joking :headscratch:
This is the beauty of the bulletin board.....
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Dang. i just read my post, and it came off way to harsh, not my intention, sorry Canspec <S>
I won't edit the post because I think it would be disingenuous.
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Dang. i just read my post, and it came off way to harsh, not my intention, sorry Canspec <S>
I won't edit the post because I think it would be disingenuous.
No need to apologize...I expressed a challenging opinion and you responded.......making people think and challenge what they see and hear could be a benefit to this game.....hmmm..............di sigenuous is too big a word for me so I had to look it up.....
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People leave when they finally realize that they have been sitting on their arses staring at a screen getting fat for far too long, wasting precious and unrecoverable time in real life. Long time gaming is a recipe for disfunction and an early demise, especially when you are older and retired. We have all been guilty of this. For the addicted and long time gamers, health, the family or lifestyle usually pays a price.....
....there is no investment.....no benefit......nothing......the time and money spent in here is wasted.......thats the reality.....people finally realize this and leave......
So you are telling me 90% of my life is a lie...sigh,
Hehehehe
I have learned some ACM so I wouldn't call it a 100% lie ;)
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I think its far more simples
I blame one player and one player only
Since his nefarious lack of actions numb3rs have been dropping off...
at a steady rate..
mid week tallies show..and I'm sure snaily would back me up.
Player numbers dropping after every Wednesday
No1 RAF should hold their heads in shame
and bring before us the one man who can explain..
Swoop
what the hell happened to the Wednesday babe!
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....there is no investment.....no benefit......nothing......the time and money spent in here is wasted.......thats the reality.....people finally realize this and leave......
Comradery and friendship. AH is the medium in which this is shared. Game aside, this is what I care about. It's not a waste.
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Hey, I think I might have been that 39 you were talking about. It was a pretty good fight. Just the thing I need to get better in the Airacobra.
Yeh mate it was good fun :salute
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You know there are a lot of people that make a lot friends over the years in this game. Its a shame they can't get on the BBS and bid their friends farewell without running the risk of being thought of as a shade flying attention potato. One way or another everyone will have a last flight in this sim.
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I think you and bozon are correct. It appears to me that many are quitting, perhaps hoping that if enough people do, it will force HTC to push the new release out faster. Kinda' childish for the ones
doing so.
I'm sure some folks left for the reasons that they gave and may come back after some time. I left the game way before this update was ever mentioned, due to no finances. Things are looking up though, so
hopefully I'll be back soon. (even if the update is not ready..)
Coogan :salute
Look forward to seeing you back in the MA Coogan :salute
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Look forward to seeing you back in the MA Coogan :salute
Thanks JimmyD3. Can't wait to return. :cheers:
Coogan
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A good clearing of the head helps bring back the enjoyment of the game.
True dat, ol' friend.
(http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/clearing-a-clogged-toilet-with-a-plunger.jpg)
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You know there are a lot of people that make a lot friends over the years in this game. Its a shame they can't get on the BBS and bid their friends farewell without running the risk of being thought of as a shade flying attention potato. One way or another everyone will have a last flight in this sim.
Many of us have spent years here, made good friends, had a lot of fun. As Shifty says, there's nothing wrong with saying "so long" to those people. Your friends know you're gone, you get some "so longs" back, why would anyone want to throw dung at that?
- oldman
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In LWA for August 2012 there were 885,244 K/Ds. For the same month in '13 there were 738,880. Last month, in 2014, there were 499,753. So in two years alone almost 1/2 the player base left. I really doubt many are coming back as "shades".
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for me the game got boring.
I was no longer having fun.
even if it was taking a break from being a CO of a squad. I joined the SWs to be a pee-on and not have that stress and the game was still boring to me.
so why pay for something your not having fun with. my stick throttle tower and monitor have been in storage now for close to a year and I don't for see them coming out for some time now.
I am having way more fun riding 4wheelers with the kids and snow machines with the kids then the game.
maybe when the kids grow out of doing outdoor activities I will think about coming back but I am sure with seeing these new updates I will need a new rig just to run the game and I cant justify spending another 2k just on a computer to play a game so who knows if I will ever make a come back
as of right now I don't even have the itch to come back.
I do however love visiting these boards its fun to laugh at idiots on here
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In LWA for August 2012 there were 885,244 K/Ds. For the same month in '13 there were 738,880. Last month, in 2014, there were 499,753. So in two years alone almost 1/2 the player base left.
I'd say it takes a bit more data than a single raw overall K/D number alone to come to a conclusion like this. ;)