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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Lan784 on August 22, 2005, 09:39:49 PM
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dont u hate it when ur flying down the runway or landing in a fighter and that dang engine is in the way??? well a survey shows the #1 reason tht pilots crash on landing or takeoff because they cant see the runway. 76% answered this as a cause. So we need to get cockpits to where u can open EM!!! PLEASE!!
Lan784
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Originally posted by Lan784
dont u hate it when ur flying down the runway or landing in a fighter and that dang engine is in the way??? well a survey shows the #1 reason tht pilots crash on landing or takeoff because they cant see the runway. 76% answered this as a cause. So we need to get cockpits to where u can open EM!!! PLEASE!!
Not 100% sure what you're asking for, but you can always just raise your head abit with "Page Up" and then look over one side with the arrows?
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:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Stang
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
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No, he's asking about the ability to open/slide back your cockpit door/window.
You know, what 99.9% of the WWII picutres of pilots in their planes look like? :D
Even for bombers, if you could open your side window at low speeds, that would be swell - then auto-close at higher speeds or have it blown off.
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
No, he's asking about the ability to open/slide back your cockpit door/window.
You know, what 99.9% of the WWII picutres of pilots in their planes look like? :D
Even for bombers, if you could open your side window at low speeds, that would be swell - then auto-close at higher speeds or have it blown off.
And cause extra drag.. :D
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And hit control + o to put on goggles
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and hit alt+x+f4+hijk+shift delelte+alt f4 for good luck
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WHATZ UP FRANKY!!!!! when do u host mission rooms i need to knwo so it can fit my schedual or however the hell u spell it.
Lan784
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You can learn what real pilots do:
Learn to gauge your distance from the ground by looking left or right and down.
Once you have lined up _keep your heading_ and pick a spot to the left or right like a tree or some other object that starts about the same place as the runway. You checked the field altitude right? Once you have passed your landmark you can gauge your distance from the ground by looking left or right and down.
Use your views, and don't forget to drop your gear.
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Could also not nose up untill ready to touch down.
I never have any problems not being able to see the runway or in touching down on the runway unless I get a strong cross wind.
Dont think we have many of those here
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Yea it would all depend on how early you performed your transition. Using flaps will also allow you to come in with a view of the runway. The only real difference there is carrier landings.
Dan.
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See Rule #10
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No, he's asking about the ability to open/slide back your cockpit door/window.
You know, what 99.9% of the WWII picutres of pilots in their planes look like? :D
Even for bombers, if you could open your side window at low speeds, that would be swell - then auto-close at higher speeds or have it blown off.
And you know why the cockpit was open?
So if they did crash they could get out faster.
Would an open cockpit make the pilot's neck longer? His head will only move so far, open cockpit or not.
wrongway
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Carrier based bomber and F4F,FM2 have sliding windows,not in game.All Carrier bombers except TBM have sliding windows above gunner,not in game.IL2 Sturmovik has sliding windows! :furious
on fighters, it's not a window...it's a canopy.
go check real quick, doesn't the 109 canopy in il2 slide open? i can't remember it's been a while since i had it installed.
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+1
I'd also like to be able to stick the dead out, as just opening the window would not help. It can also be used to your advantage if you get an oil hit.
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on fighters, it's not a window...it's a canopy.
go check real quick, doesn't the 109 canopy in il2 slide open? i can't remember it's been a while since i had it installed.
The 109's had sliding windows attached to the canopy. I know the one on the left slid, I don't remember if the one on the right did, too.
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+1
I'd also like to be able to stick the dead out, as just opening the window would not help. It can also be used to your advantage if you get an oil hit.
So you get hot oil in the face?
wrongway
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did anyone look at the date? 2005
(http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=155983&stc=1&d=1282248052)
edit: typo
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Oh My God...its The RIse of the Necro Threads :O
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Carrier based bomber and F4F,FM2 have sliding windows,not in game.All Carrier bombers except TBM have sliding windows above gunner,not in game.IL2 Sturmovik has sliding windows! :furious
Please go play IL2 Strumovik and STOP bumping 6 year old threads !
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Please go play IL2 Strumovik and STOP bumping 6 year old threads !
This should be your next cartoon
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Or you could apply slight rudder and crab in until your right in front of the runway if you go to an airshow that has for instance an extra 300 that is what the pilot does on landing :D
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I like it +1
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So you get hot oil in the face?
wrongway
:rofl I did not realize that :rofl :rofl
By the time is cools down it should be find.
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Our planes are no different than IRL. NOBODY has the canopy open during takeoff or landing unless some mechanical issue has arisen or it has been shot to chit.
Just learn how to "see" what you don't see. Practice on carriers...... By far the hardest of landings in our game.
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Our planes are no different than IRL. NOBODY has the canopy open during takeoff or landing unless some mechanical issue has arisen or it has been shot to chit.
Sometimes I wonder if people post simply the most factually incorrect information they can think of, as if it's some part of some game or something.
(http://www.aviation-history.com/vought/files/CorsP4.jpg)
(http://www.aviation-history.com/vought/files/CorsP6.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/oldtownman/WW2Pics6/021605.jpg)
(http://www.air-and-space.com/20040516%20Chino/Dsc_0528%20Spitfire%20LF%20IX%20E%20N2TF%20right%20side%20take-off%20l.jpg)
(http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/usaaf1944/Goffin_files/spitfire-prx1_1.jpg)
(http://www.air-and-space.com/20060521%20Chino/DSC_6570%20P-47D%20NX47DF%20right%20front%20take-off%20l.jpg)
You can find many, many more without really trying. It seems to have been just as common as taking off with the canopy shut.
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F3-Mode is available while your plane is on the ground...
Coogan
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F3-Mode is available while your plane is on the ground...
Coogan
Yes but you want to be able to look out when landing, as that is the most important time. While on the ground you just taxi in S shaped patterns and see what's in front of you, you can't do that while landing.
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Our planes are no different than IRL. NOBODY has the canopy open during takeoff or landing unless some mechanical issue has arisen or it has been shot to chit.
Just learn how to "see" what you don't see. Practice on carriers...... By far the hardest of landings in our game.
Buddy, you can not possibly be more wrong.
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Sometimes I wonder if people post simply the most factually incorrect information they can think of, as if it's some part of some game or something.
(http://www.aviation-history.com/vought/files/CorsP4.jpg)
(http://www.aviation-history.com/vought/files/CorsP6.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/oldtownman/WW2Pics6/021605.jpg)
(http://www.air-and-space.com/20040516%20Chino/Dsc_0528%20Spitfire%20LF%20IX%20E%20N2TF%20right%20side%20take-off%20l.jpg)
(http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/usaaf1944/Goffin_files/spitfire-prx1_1.jpg)
(http://www.air-and-space.com/20060521%20Chino/DSC_6570%20P-47D%20NX47DF%20right%20front%20take-off%20l.jpg)
You can find many, many more without really trying. It seems to have been just as common as taking off with the canopy shut.
More:
(http://www.bobjellison.com/Cougar_photos/cougars_cat.jpeg)
(http://www.uss-bennington.org/pics/stz-f9f-1.jpg)
oops, he missed the wire:
(http://www.uss-bennington.org/pics/stz-f9f-2.jpg)
(http://www.thescale.info/news/uploads/f9f-5-deck.jpg)
(http://www.aspecialdayguide.com/wells/panther.gif)
Until there were reliable ejection seats, and air conditioning, being able to get out quick was a priority.
wrongway
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Like i said just practice a simple trick... "crabbing" apply slight rudder to one direction and look to the side this gives you a good view of the runway and is really simple. Right before landing flick the tail back in place and touchdown. IRL this is a commonly practiced technique and is a simple skill all small aircraft pilots need to (or at least should) know.
This is also applied when taking off with a slight crosswind to keep the wind flowing over the wings better. :old:
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Just do what I do. Use the same trick that British and Amercian pilots did when landing the Corsair on a carrier. Come in on a gentle turning approach so you can see the runway until the last minute then you are wheels down. May take some pracitce but it keeps me from flipping, crashing, or bouncing like rock on water down the runway.
BigKev
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All of you intelligent folk have to forgive me... I should have added during times of war, or if you are not a country with a massive amount of resources. Small countries that pay good money importing aviation fuel...
Who can show a photo not from an air show or some Navy photos of "air manuevers" ?
The bottom line is America and the British have plenty of fuel so as not to really care about drag effects. During wartime a carrier/base only has so much fuel on hand... A pilot, during wartime is usually not trying to waste his gas either.
Think about kids...... Let your common sense take hold.
:aok
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All of you intelligent folk have to forgive me... I should have added during times of war, or if you are not a country with a massive amount of resources. Small countries that pay good money importing aviation fuel...
Who can show a photo not from an air show or some Navy photos of "air manuevers" ?
The bottom line is America and the British have plenty of fuel so as not to really care about drag effects. During wartime a carrier/base only has so much fuel on hand... A pilot, during wartime is usually not trying to waste his gas either.
Think about kids...... Let your common sense take hold.
:aok
The amount of drag is creates is insignificant compared to the amount of visibility you get.
And I believe Motherland and Wrongway posted pictures not from airshows, unless airshows are on aircraft carriers these days.
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Like i said just practice a simple trick... "crabbing" apply slight rudder to one direction and look to the side this gives you a good view of the runway and is really simple. Right before landing flick the tail back in place and touchdown. IRL this is a commonly practiced technique and is a simple skill all small aircraft pilots need to (or at least should) know.
This is also applied when taking off with a slight crosswind to keep the wind flowing over the wings better. :old:
It's a common thing in real life because we have crosswind, there is no wind in AH. As crabbing significantly slows you down and increases the rate of decent you have to plan a different approach (which is not normal) or add power (which is not normal either).
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this thread is 6 years old why not resurrect one from last year, there were plenty of them, lol.
semp
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this thread is 6 years old why not resurrect one from last year, there were plenty of them, lol.
semp
Did not see that :rofl
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Air maneuvers, daily operations, BonBon's, JuJu Fruits, etc ......... You might call that training kiddo. :aok
The amount of drag is creates is insignificant compared to the amount of visibility you get.
And I believe Motherland and Wrongway posted pictures not from airshows, unless airshows are on aircraft carriers these days.
And when you say visibility, what exactly do you mean? That pilots throw their heads out the window to poke around? Yes, but only in certain conditions. Even a present day plane with a slow stall speed is going faster than most travel in their car. A fly in the eye would be a terrible thing. :uhoh Environment has alot to do with such things.
Although I will say that present day commercial, single/twin engine aircraft are quite better for visibility than fighter planes of old.
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Air maneuvers, daily operations, BonBon's, JuJu Fruits, etc ......... You might call that training kiddo. :aok
And when you say visibility, what exactly do you mean? That pilots throw their heads out the window to poke around? Yes, but only in certain conditions. Even a present day plane with a slow stall speed is going faster than most travel in their car. A fly in the eye would be a terrible thing. :uhoh Environment has alot to do with such things.
Although I will say that present day commercial, single/twin engine aircraft are quite better for visibility than fighter planes of old.
Well you don't stick the whole head out but you do move it out to look around your engine.
You don't need to do it on modern planes because you either don't have an engine in the front at all or it's a lot smaller and they have a tricycle landing gear. But the all around visibility on modern civilian aircraft is a lot worse.
Goggles work great for you don't hit any bugs.
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Who can show a photo not from an air show or some Navy photos of "air manuevers" ?
hehehe...sure thing bud...vintage video of zekes...watch the canopy positions on take off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFfu8K0320A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFfu8K0320A)
p-47s...some pilots took off canopy open, some didn't...gotta watch closely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shsxuauQA3w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shsxuauQA3w)
i can get more if you want...