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Title: Floating Dots
Post by: BMathis on March 12, 2008, 01:33:14 PM
Well I posted this in the bug forum, but someone deleted it, or I never posted it completely, so I'll put it here. If it needs to move, I apologise...

I was in titanic Tuesady and flying against rooks. Mainly Lusche, skyrock, kappa, and plantain. I flew over in a nik, and saw a 109f trailing me. I figured it was lusche. While I was looking at him, I noticed a dot moving around his airplane. It'd appear, and dissapear, and reappera right around his plane. I started rolling film, sayin to myself "what the hell is that!, some kind of hack super shield orb" lol... But I knew it was lusche so I figured prolly not.

Anyway I took some screenies, in case it didn't show up in the FV. But it did show up. I took screen shots from the film. What the heck is this? HTC? Anyone else seen this mysterious floating orb around uber pilots lately? It had me so focused on it's majical powers that lusche shot me down... or he's just that good  :D

Here's the screenies

(http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/47853/2000773719800645034_rs.jpg)


(http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/48278/2000716038455202144_rs.jpg)

(http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/46949/2000756097858037866_rs.jpg)

Here's the film download:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zmn2vx2gnnt


When I get next to it in the film viewer it only seems to be like 3 pixles... It's kinda creepy watchin the film from my end looking back at Lusche.  :uhoh

<<S>>

mathis
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Spazzter on March 12, 2008, 01:50:55 PM
Bnasty,

I saw these same dots, except I saw them hovering around a friendly that was about 5k away.  The dot would appear to shadow him and then disappear, then show up again a minute or so later.  It kind of looked like a bomber with one drone, but it was a fighter.  Also, this was not an uber pilot that I was seeing this happen to.  :lol

<S>
Spazz
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: smokey23 on March 12, 2008, 01:53:24 PM
I see these in Titanic tuesday alot i just figured i needed new contact lenses
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: MajIssue on March 12, 2008, 01:56:18 PM
We call 'em "FOO FIGHTERS"... I've seen them 180 degrees away from friendlies, not just on Titanic Tuesdays... Also on TT I've seen "fantom" darbars appear in sectors FAR removed from any activity, friendly or enemy.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Puck on March 12, 2008, 02:00:40 PM
This just goes to prove that AH is modeled SO accurately that the alien observers watching the progress of WWII also show up.

Spooky...
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: BlauK on March 12, 2008, 02:10:06 PM
It is the new AI watching and learning the moves  :noid
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Corrs on March 12, 2008, 02:18:41 PM
I was seening it a lot also. I think its the clipboard from that player. I saw this happen a long while back, heck it might have been back in AW days. I was flying with a squad mate and everytime he opened his clipboard it would shoot out of his plane, back towards mine and then whip back to his plane. Maybe the same thing, may not be..... :noid
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: trax1 on March 12, 2008, 04:58:59 PM
I've been seeing more & more post's about these recently, maybe HTC needs to look into it.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: RoGenT on March 12, 2008, 05:02:44 PM
Those things bug me too. First time I saw them, I thought it was meatbomb or part of the plane. Then I noticed it wouldn't go down so I shot at it; that didnt work either so i gave up  :D
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: mensa180 on March 12, 2008, 06:54:20 PM
This just goes to prove that AH is modeled SO accurately that the alien observers watching the progress of WWII also show up.

Spooky...

This is the most likely cause.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Spatula on March 12, 2008, 07:27:33 PM
I remember the old ghost dots from the early days of AH1 - IIRC, they had something to do with that aircraft having someone else riding along with them - eg 'joined'. May not be the same thing??
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Overlag on March 12, 2008, 07:48:48 PM
I remember the old ghost dots from the early days of AH1 - IIRC, they had something to do with that aircraft having someone else riding along with them - eg 'joined'. May not be the same thing??

yup, most likely someone was joined to the 109f and using external view to look around the sides of plane, hence the dot was moving around the outside of plane.

lag often causes the observer to "fall behind" the plane he is joined too also.




however it could also be hitech or any of the testers testing the "new planes" and since we have no models it shows as a dot? hence alot of reports about "FOO fighters" lately? :)
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Anchor on March 12, 2008, 07:50:59 PM
I had therapy after seeing them. I though I was playing too much   :eek:
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Lusche on March 12, 2008, 08:05:27 PM
yup, most likely someone was joined to the 109f and using external view to look around the sides of plane, hence the dot was moving around the outside of plane.

lag often causes the observer to "fall behind" the plane he is joined too also.
l

I wasn't joined by any observer. But I used the clipboard a lot during that fight, so
I was seening it a lot also. I think its the clipboard from that player. I saw this happen a long while back, heck it might have been back in AW days. I was flying with a squad mate and everytime he opened his clipboard it would shoot out of his plane, back towards mine and then whip back to his plane. Maybe the same thing, may not be..... :noid
actually makes a lot of sense to me.

I see that flying dot sometimes on other planes too, but only on Titanic Tuesdays. Also there were some radar issues again yesterday, like non-moving friendly dot on map with accompanying darbar over a base for more than 30mins, static enemy darbars for hours in an sector without any activity; red dots far outside any radar range...
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Tigger29 on March 12, 2008, 08:10:39 PM
These dots seem to appear mostly on certain maps.

It's not a clipboard... it's not an observer.. it's just a bug.

These dots will also set off the DAR BAR.. very annoying when trying to participate in a NOE raid!

I've seen them start at a plane, then drop a little, and then zoom backwards at about 5000MPH.. I joke around about it being the plane "pinching one off".

I can't find any rhyme or reason to it, except that it seems to pick a player and stick with them.  It will appear, zoom away, and then a few minutes reappear again only to zoom away again, but this keeps happening over and over again with the same plane.

I have a feeling HTC has an idea what this is, I just kind of wish they would share their knowledge with us, as I'm.. SUPER CURIOUS
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Gowan on March 12, 2008, 08:21:28 PM
in KOTH, once shot down, you can go into CM eye mode, and fly around without a plane and watch the people

you come up as a small little dot, thats what dots are.

you can probably try producing the same effect by haveing a friend fly a bomber and have him go in 3rd person view
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: BMathis on March 12, 2008, 08:34:12 PM
in KOTH, once shot down, you can go into CM eye mode, and fly around without a plane and watch the people

you come up as a small little dot, thats what dots are.

you can probably try producing the same effect by haveing a friend fly a bomber and have him go in 3rd person view
I've never seen this. I use CMEyE mode in eXtreme racing and other place like the TA, and I've never seen it before, not even on film... If you look at the film I posted, and just look from My POV, towards Lusche's plane, you'll see the dot, it's very noticeable and distracting; though obviously not the him  ;)

some good ideas, but nothing from htc yet  :pray
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Jack16 on March 12, 2008, 10:24:07 PM
I was a H2H player when it was still around and I saw these random dots all the time.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Overlag on March 13, 2008, 05:28:10 AM
in KOTH, once shot down, you can go into CM eye mode, and fly around without a plane and watch the people

you come up as a small little dot, thats what dots are.

you can probably try producing the same effect by haveing a friend fly a bomber and have him go in 3rd person view

yeah, thats why i said it may have been and observer attached to his plane.

Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: bobtom on March 13, 2008, 07:37:07 AM
I saw something like this.

I was in a NOE raid with my squadies, and we were talking about all the dots we saw flying around us. Then we saw a darbar on the map and it wasnt near where anyone was for the length of the raid.
Halfway there I suddenly died both wings and tail fell off. The guy behind me saw it to...............
spooky............
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: BMathis on March 13, 2008, 08:20:49 AM
yeah, thats why i said it may have been and observer attached to his plane.



Did you read lushe's post? Nobody was attched to him.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Gianlupo on March 13, 2008, 08:40:56 AM
Mathis, it's just an excuse for having been shot down! :noid
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: BMathis on March 13, 2008, 09:46:44 AM
Mathis, it's just an excuse for having been shot down! :noid

 :lol I know right!  <<S>> Gian, it was good to finally meet ya. Good flying in the Da too!  :salute

Mathis
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: crims on March 13, 2008, 08:03:36 PM
Well SAPP Fly's on Tuesday night  :O And they always know where to find ya  :O :noid

So if your out there....... they can find you  :noid :noid

Maybe I shouldn't post this in the General Forum But I think this SAPP thing has gone to far  :noid :noid


Crims
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: FiLtH on March 13, 2008, 09:58:51 PM
  Whenever I forget to back all the way out before entering a different arena I see them.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Pannono on March 13, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
in the words of J312, "another darn UFO!"
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 13, 2008, 10:26:36 PM
THE DOT BUG HAS RETURNED!!!!!!!!! MMUUUEEEHAHAHHAA








was from h2h if you dont get it.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: nimble on March 13, 2008, 11:32:49 PM
It's Wonder Woman's drop tank. Everyone knows it.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Gianlupo on March 14, 2008, 08:57:08 AM
:lol I know right!  <<S>> Gian, it was good to finally meet ya. Good flying in the Da too!  :salute

Mathis

Yeah, it was nice to meet you! Good fights, sir! :) :salute
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Overlag on March 14, 2008, 08:09:53 PM
Did you read lushe's post? Nobody was attched to him.

no, but observers in CM eye mode show up just like people attached to the planes. your "view point" shows up as a little dot, basically a camera.
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Gowan on March 14, 2008, 09:55:16 PM
I was a H2H player when it was still around and I saw these random dots all the time.

i remember that, but im pretty sure that was something different

it was probbably there to create "imaginary furball" to make the illusion that there were more than just 8 people in the arena

i miss the H2H, but then again hackers have to screw everything over just because they can
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Wes14 on March 15, 2008, 01:00:17 AM
i remember that, but im pretty sure that was something different

it was probbably there to create "imaginary furball" to make the illusion that there were more than just 8 people in the arena

i miss the H2H, but then again hackers have to screw everything over just because they can

I wouldn't be using the "H" word if I was you.  :salute
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: mussie on March 15, 2008, 08:07:27 AM
LOOK No matter how well put your arguments.... I choose to beleive that we have Foo Fighters in the game... Its simply cooler than any rational explanation  :D
Title: Re: Floating Dots
Post by: Gianlupo on March 15, 2008, 08:52:35 AM
LOOK No matter how well put your arguments.... I choose to beleive that we have Foo Fighters in the game... Its simply cooler than any rational explanation  :D

Go away, you bot! Stop pretending to be mussie.... we know who you are (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,199087.msg2787494.html#msg2787494)....... :noid