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Title: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: h338 on March 14, 2008, 01:12:07 AM
Ok, we all know that kamikazees played a huge part in the war sooo why not have the planes known to be used as kamikazes (zeros, D3s or Vals, KI-84, etc.) have the option to select a pack that is a kamikaze pack.

As far as scoring sure dieing would still count as a death, but you would get damage points and kills added onto your attack score. I think this would bring much more excitement to the game and people would love to fly them...sometimes too much so make them cost at a price of oh say 20-30 perks on average.

I think many people would love this.

~~~please reply and give input, thanks <Salute>~~~

 :aok
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: 1sum41 on March 14, 2008, 01:43:47 AM
dude that would be so much freaking fun. you could sink carriors.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: h338 on March 14, 2008, 02:53:27 AM
yea buddy
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: SD67 on March 14, 2008, 03:16:30 AM
How many perks do you hope to gain from a kamikaze attack?
Sinking the CV and killing what planes are on the deck as well as all the guns will not give you 20-30 perks.
IMO it will be a good way to lose perks.
NO
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: DiabloTX on March 14, 2008, 03:27:32 AM
I could use a good stiff drink before climbing into my P-40B before I do battle.  A kamikaze is one of my faves.  I'm all for it!!
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Latrobe on March 14, 2008, 04:08:35 AM
dude that would be so much freaking fun. you could sink carriors.

I just don't know what to say about this post. It's just  unique.


I really don't see why we need to have the option to up from a field in a zeke just to crash into a carrier and sink it. After all we already have LancStukas. Whenever you send a cv into a base you want to kill ord there so they can't up any bombers to sink your carrier. Add in kamakazies and you either have to drop all FHs to keep them down and loose a potentially fun fight, or risk a dweeb upping a kamakazie to sink your carrier and killing a fun fight.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Strip on March 14, 2008, 04:28:07 AM
Latrobe.....I bet you could add 3-4 of these guys ages together and still not get a grown man. :noid

Strip(er)
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Latrobe on March 14, 2008, 06:02:56 AM
Latrobe.....I bet you could add 3-4 of these guys ages together and still not get a grown man. :noid

Strip(er)


 :lol Probably!
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Blammo on March 14, 2008, 08:01:46 AM
I am all for the ability to kamikaze being added to the game under the following conditions:

1)  You plane gets no ammo so your only defense is to use your 1337 fiter skillz to not get shot down
2)  You gain no perks from this attack, even if successful
3)  Once you successfully carry out the mission, you are unable to fly again until the map resets.
4)  That when in kamikaze mode your plane icon does not just show what type of plane you are flying to the enemy, but also shows you the game ID so everyone can know who the dweeb is that would rather ram a ship with a plane than learn to actually carry out a real attacks.

Not that it would happen, but I would be satisfied with the above conditions  :D :aok
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Spikes on March 14, 2008, 02:28:40 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Pannono on March 14, 2008, 05:04:32 PM
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l62/yorky_2006/dead_thread.jpg)
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: ian5440 on March 14, 2008, 05:20:15 PM
i think the kamikazi would need to be a huge detriment to you skill perks everything because they were very useful
i also feel they should move very slowly so you need to be high to get the speed yoou need. I personally dont want these in here because the kamikaze was an honor for the Japanese??and they were one way trips...but not in AH

i feel the kamikaze will be one of the lowest of the low things to do in AH
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: h338 on March 14, 2008, 05:33:10 PM
Well i mean its just an idea so a lot of you guys just need to chill the heck down. You dont need to get all mean about it, you know you could just say you dont agree with it and leave it at that.  :)

Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Pannono on March 14, 2008, 06:38:30 PM
You dont need to get all mean about it, you know you could just say you dont agree with it and leave it at that.  :)
yes, we have to. if we dont, no fun on the forums.

Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: 1sum41 on March 15, 2008, 01:21:27 AM
actullay i think it is a good idea.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: h338 on March 15, 2008, 05:18:21 AM
haha yea no fun huh  :lol
yea i dont know why i became a snausage but whateva...prolly pissed cuz I HAD NO FOOOD...then i went and got chinese  :rock
sorry guys  :salute
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Pannono on March 15, 2008, 02:41:48 PM
actullay i think it is a good idea.
u have 31 posts..........
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: SD67 on March 15, 2008, 05:26:48 PM
AND you haven't even been here a full month  :huh
Why don't you play the game a little more, try out more of the features and read a few more posts before you decide you know what's L337?
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: stodd on March 16, 2008, 10:40:47 PM
KAMIKAZES  NEET I WANTS TO BLOW UP STUFF AND RAM AND WHILE WE AT IT ADD DUH B29 AND NOOK SO I CAN DIVE BOMB AND KAMIKAZE ATS SAME TIMEE  SO I IS L33T AND I WANT TO GET ALOT OF PERK POINTS FOR DOING IT AND STUFF
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: 1sum41 on March 16, 2008, 10:58:14 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: 1sum41 on March 17, 2008, 08:28:05 AM
Wtf did I do to u
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Pannono on March 17, 2008, 10:02:21 AM
nevermind....
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Blammo on March 17, 2008, 11:02:58 AM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: OSU on March 17, 2008, 11:53:01 AM
KAMIKAZES  NEET I WANTS TO BLOW UP STUFF AND RAM AND WHILE WE AT IT ADD DUH B29 AND NOOK SO I CAN DIVE BOMB AND KAMIKAZE ATS SAME TIMEE  SO I IS L33T AND I WANT TO GET ALOT OF PERK POINTS FOR DOING IT AND STUFF
How much longer are you going to carry on about stuff which will most likely never be put into Aces High?  Plus, if all you want to do in AH is just slam your plane into carriers all day, why play at all?  And you shouldn't get perk points for being a dweeb and killing yourself constantly instead of actually fighting.  I think that a kamikazes and nukes would be a stupid idea.  Just my $0.02
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: stodd on March 17, 2008, 02:00:41 PM
How much longer are you going to carry on about stuff which will most likely never be put into Aces High?  Plus, if all you want to do in AH is just slam your plane into carriers all day, why play at all?  And you shouldn't get perk points for being a dweeb and killing yourself constantly instead of actually fighting.  I think that a kamikazes and nukes would be a stupid idea.  Just my $0.02
lol you seemed to miss the point of my post. :rofl
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: stodd on March 17, 2008, 02:33:52 PM
thx for that lovely pm 1sum41 i love u too. check your pm box 1sum.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Blammo on March 17, 2008, 11:17:39 PM
1sum41:
Please don't send me PMs.  This is the big boy world and and if you can't figure out that some people might have an issue with, or think it is hilarious for you to post things like your lovely "Screw you guys" post, then don't PM me to get your validation in life.  Besides, stodd enjoys those sort of things much more than me.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: DPQ5 on March 18, 2008, 03:41:58 AM
dident i make a thread about kamikazes a week ago
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: OSU on March 19, 2008, 02:58:40 PM
lol you seemed to miss the point of my post. :rofl
What did you mean by that? I'm pretty sure that I talked about everything that you said in your post. Or maybe you didn't read all of it.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: h338 on March 20, 2008, 04:17:28 AM
duh duh duh...he meant to sound like 5 years old and make me look young...haha  :aok
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: OSU on March 20, 2008, 11:34:29 AM
Oh, OK.  :lol
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: DaftDog on March 21, 2008, 07:19:41 AM
Well, you wouldn't want ALL the n00bz headed toward your CV saying " <lame> FOR OUR SIDE!"


I wouldn't have a problem with it on Special Events or AvA.

Main Arena I think it wouldn't fit, you know?             :salute
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: stodd on March 21, 2008, 08:35:11 AM
I said it because I see that type of post everyday. I was being sarcastic,with caps and the mispelled words it was meant as a joke. Actually that's the complete oposite of what I wanted to be put in game.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: McLovin1 on April 23, 2008, 02:45:20 PM
I am jumpstarting this topic with this. It wouldn't be that hard to implement this into the game. They had fixed impact bombs, or torpedoes with fuel tanks, that they would flip a switch to activate them so they would blow on impact. This would have no perk bonus and a big perk loss. Showing that the person has extreme sacrfice to the game. And it would add realism to the game, like we are supposed to do.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: 633DH98 on April 23, 2008, 03:52:20 PM
Ohka "smart" bombs comming soon so save your perks to spend on them.  Equip your CVs with the lower deck cats. for launching the super secret SeaKomet defense fighters.  ;)
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: DPQ5 on April 23, 2008, 04:16:36 PM
Ohka "smart" bombs comming soon so save your perks to spend on them.  Equip your CVs with the lower deck cats. for launching the super secret SeaKomet defense fighters.  ;)


lol dousent mean smart, and if they do addd a kamakazi pack they should make the ack 10 times worse on cvs eveb if its not realalistic
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Pannono on April 23, 2008, 04:46:59 PM

lol dousent mean smart, and if they do addd a kamakazi pack they should make the ack 10 times worse on cvs eveb if its not realalistic

dp, hes sayin they smart bombs because they're guided lol
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: 100goon on April 23, 2008, 04:57:27 PM
dude that would be so much freaking fun. you could sink carriors.

if they do the battale ring thing { see iowa claas battale ship post page 1 or 2 } if you make it thro the ack!
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Pannono on April 23, 2008, 05:02:35 PM
if they do the battale ring thing { see iowa claas battale ship post page 1 or 2 } if you make it thro the ack!
hijacking this thread
we need spell check on BBs or we need to ban all 3 year olds from BBs
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: angelsandair on April 23, 2008, 05:13:09 PM
dude, be nicer to the newer guys. God, I bet you're my age or younger.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2008, 08:39:59 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/arlogu3/pricelessideas.jpg)
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: BarryBD on April 24, 2008, 10:35:37 AM
hijacking this thread
we need spell check on BBs or we need to ban all 3 year olds from BBs


HMMMM, maybe, just maybe... a small but existing change...

100goon might not be a native English speaker...

Besides, it is not nice (netiquette) to point somebody at his or hers spelling mistakes ;)

Signed : another new, non-English guy, who is way older than 3...

Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: kennyhayes on April 24, 2008, 11:51:26 AM
im in
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Halo46 on April 24, 2008, 11:57:00 AM
While authentic to the war, how does this enhance game play? CVs can be taken out now pretty easily by those who have developed tactics to do so, at least the CVs I have been playing on don't last long at all. To glorify a terribly short sighted decision by those involved, is not something I would care to see. If this was an AI threat to CV's it might be plausable.

The idea that a pilot in a sticken plane may decide to ride his plane into an imminent threat to his fellow fighting men is understandable, to do so in a pre-planned manner is a symbol of desperation. Given the technology of delivery sytems at that point in history I do understand that it was tried, yet my ethnocentric viewpoint does not wish to see this feature in game. This game, in my opinion, should be more about developing the skills to simulate destroying the other's machine, then return to base, rearm, repair, and try again.

I understand the implications of "playing" war in and of itself is a glorification of this quirk of human nature to turn upon itself. But, some limits are not too bad. Do we need to see graphically all the truths about combat? It is not a very pretty picture. If we add the sounds and smells, it might quickly end all the fun, because there is nothing glamorous about it. We can justify this form of entertainment by chaulking it up to competition where people do not get hurt, other than an ego or two perhaps. It really is scary that some think Kamikaze a "cool" idea. So, in short, I do not support the idea. Thanks for trying to offer ideas to improve the game, I am always open for improvment.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: zoozoo on April 24, 2008, 12:21:20 PM
sounds interesting, not sure how it would work out in game though
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: McLovin1 on April 24, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
While authentic to the war, how does this enhance game play? CVs can be taken out now pretty easily by those who have developed tactics to do so, at least the CVs I have been playing on don't last long at all. To glorify a terribly short sighted decision by those involved, is not something I would care to see. If this was an AI threat to CV's it might be plausable.

The idea that a pilot in a sticken plane may decide to ride his plane into an imminent threat to his fellow fighting men is understandable, to do so in a pre-planned manner is a symbol of desperation. Given the technology of delivery sytems at that point in history I do understand that it was tried, yet my ethnocentric viewpoint does not wish to see this feature in game. This game, in my opinion, should be more about developing the skills to simulate destroying the other's machine, then return to base, rearm, repair, and try again.

I understand the implications of "playing" war in and of itself is a glorification of this quirk of human nature to turn upon itself. But, some limits are not too bad. Do we need to see graphically all the truths about combat? It is not a very pretty picture. If we add the sounds and smells, it might quickly end all the fun, because there is nothing glamorous about it. We can justify this form of entertainment by chaulking it up to competition where people do not get hurt, other than an ego or two perhaps. It really is scary that some think Kamikaze a "cool" idea. So, in short, I do not support the idea. Thanks for trying to offer ideas to improve the game, I am always open for improvment.

big words. and it is a last ditch thing that you can load up with fuel and when the ords are out and you need a base. plus planes blowup when they crash so they should do damage.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Motherland on April 24, 2008, 02:35:39 PM
First-
You never 'need' a base.
Second-
Kamikazi aircraft were loaded with ordnance.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Pannono on April 24, 2008, 04:43:59 PM
dude that would be so much freaking fun. you could sink carriors.
if u learned how to use a B-26 you could  :noid
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Halo46 on April 24, 2008, 04:51:42 PM
big words. and it is a last ditch thing that you can load up with fuel and when the ords are out and you need a base. plus planes blowup when they crash so they should do damage.

Those were big words? Sorry, I won't use them anymore. I thought I was only expressing an opinion to the suggestion.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: DaftDog on April 24, 2008, 05:26:12 PM
Mihh... DEFINATELY not in Main Arena. MAYBE in the Special events or AvA.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: sidey on April 24, 2008, 10:45:34 PM
Learn how to torp a CV or any of sea going craft with either d3a or TBM and youll soon learn that to improve accuracy and success of hitting the craft you have to get quite close,, sure you can flip the torp from some distance if you chose but thats a low percentage attempt.

The point being, this type of attack on CV is practically a Kamakaze mission in its self , with a higher degree of skill involved than simply plunging your ride into the CV.

Japanese pilots that were assigned to the most "honourable duty" of self sacrifice were usually not very accomplished flyers, I recall in one japanese aces account with over 80 kills to his name that he requested a kamakaze mission and was refused as pilots of his calibre were not permitted to be used in such a way. It therefore appears to be a desperate attempt to cause accurate damage forgoing the life of one inexperienced pilot. There are far more effective ways of destroying carrier groups in AH, with greater success and minimal loss of "life". It saddens me to think of the mindset and senseless loss of young lives that this technique employed. These poor chaps were primed on sakae then Hard Bolted into there cockpit, and sent on their way with just enough fuel to reach target, with a few escorts whose orders were to protect the pilots to a certain point, and to kill them if they did not carry out the task. <<Food for thought.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: McLovin1 on April 25, 2008, 02:29:11 PM
Those were big words? Sorry, I won't use them anymore. I thought I was only expressing an opinion to the suggestion.
i was just kidding
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: uberslet on April 25, 2008, 09:15:37 PM
one of the more insane ideas i have heard of. wasting perks to intentioally kill yourself? sounds absurd and a waste of perks. your better off taking up a F4U4 and crashing it if you want to waste 20-30 perks on purpose.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: SuperbKi11er on April 26, 2008, 07:15:19 AM
I just don't know what to say about this post. It's just  unique.


I really don't see why we need to have the option to up from a field in a zeke just to crash into a carrier and sink it. After all we already have LancStukas. Whenever you send a cv into a base you want to kill ord there so they can't up any bombers to sink your carrier. Add in kamakazies and you either have to drop all FHs to keep them down and loose a potentially fun fight, or risk a dweeb upping a kamakazie to sink your carrier and killing a fun fight.

Don't look at me ;). Seriously i would think this would be a great idea.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: uberslet on April 26, 2008, 09:31:57 AM
Don't look at me ;). Seriously i would think this would be a great idea.
itd kill the game. yea, havin kamikazes could be fun if you been furballing at a base for 30+minutes and no progress is made, yea then maybe, just maybe bring up a kamikaze. put the ENY at 5 so that if one tema is out numbered and have an ENY of 5.1 they cant kamikaze your CV. its a bad idea, but maybe there are some pros to some degree of having a kamikaze. but definitly dont perk them.
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Spikes on April 26, 2008, 02:13:52 PM
As stated before. We have them. You just need to release 2 1000lb bombs 7 seconds before hitting the CV. :D
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: mbailey on April 26, 2008, 06:10:28 PM
Quote from: stodd link=topic=229731.msg2793944#msg2793944
date=1205725247
KAMIKAZES  NEET I WANTS TO BLOW UP STUFF AND RAM AND WHILE WE AT IT ADD DUH B29 AND NOOK SO I CAN DIVE BOMB AND KAMIKAZE ATS SAME TIMEE  SO I IS L33T AND I WANT TO GET ALOT OF PERK POINTS FOR DOING IT AND STUFF
 



 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 26, 2008, 06:14:45 PM
As stated before. We have them. You just need to release 2 1000lb bombs 7 seconds before hitting the CV. :D

Yep
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Arlo on April 27, 2008, 06:06:02 AM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/arlogu3/AHIIwishgenie_youre_a_kamaikazi.jpg)
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: dirt911 on April 27, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
i think its a good idea i mean except for the pak part but yeah the japs were kamikazen the fleets right so if 1 plane  can the n shouldn another :P :cry :uhoh :mad: :devil :salute :pray
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: Bino on April 29, 2008, 09:39:13 AM
Suicide attacks on the CVs?  Sure.  Why not? 

But if your side uses, say, two in less than an hour, you lose the war and the map resets.

To be, y'know, historical-like, d00d.

 ;)
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: bongaroo on April 29, 2008, 10:38:21 AM
people already do this all the time.  you just want to add a bit more damage from the plane hitting?

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: dirt911 on April 29, 2008, 04:45:46 PM
how the krap is it lame?????????we could kill people without usen a single bullet :aok :devil :eek: :eek: :uhoh :O
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: bongaroo on April 29, 2008, 05:11:59 PM
This is an argument I shouldn't have even dignified with a post.

let's just say

NO
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: uberslet on April 29, 2008, 06:11:09 PM


let's just say

NO
agree  :aok
Title: Re: ~~KAMIKAZES~~
Post by: dirt911 on April 29, 2008, 07:43:05 PM
agreed :salute