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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lutrel on March 14, 2008, 05:34:43 PM
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http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1
Obama's minister would be a perfect match for the other side of a David Duke coin; both men preach hatred for no other reason than skin color.
I feel sorry for those who can not see what this says about Obama's beliefs. I know I wouldn't stay in a church for 20 years if I did not agree with what the minister was preaching, so it stands to reason that Obama feels the same as the racist minister.
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You gotta know it's the Hillary supporters that are making an issue of this. Smart Republicans would wait until he wins the nomination to point out what a hate filled person this guy is.
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You gotta know it's the Hillary supporters that are making an issue of this. Smart Republicans would wait until he wins the nomination to point out what a hate filled person this guy is.
Agreed but, the pointing out of isn't the fun part. It's watching them dance afterwords!
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Agreed but, the pointing out of isn't the fun part. It's watching them dance afterwords!
Have to agree watching a democrat squirm is fun and it's not like there aren't any skeletons in Hillary's closet if she wins the nomination.
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It really is disgusting. Hannity had a bunch of excerpts of his sermon after 9/11.
This minister should be banned from preaching as he is a racist jack off.
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Isn't it ironic that white liberal democratic politicians are no longer being given a pass on racial issues by radical black bigots? If Obama wasn't in this race, "the Rev" probably wouldn't be unloading his vitriol on Hillary.
Yes, you've gotta wonder about Obama. The remarks made by his wife and by his long-time preacher may indicate a pattern. If he truly didn't believe in what Rev. Wright was hawking, and he had an ounce of integrity, he'd have walked out of that church long ago. If one could be a fly on the wall and listen on the things that Obama, his wife, and the Rev. talked about in the privacy of their home, there's no telling what you would hear coming out of their mouths.
Evidently, this type of statement is nothing new for Rev. Wright. So, one has to treat Obama's long time loyalty to him and his church with a great deal of circumspection. In my opinion, if he truly believs in brotherly love, respect, and racial equality, he should have walked out long ago.
Two years ago I did that very thing; walked out of my home church because I was fed up with the rantings of an ultra-orthodox Southern Baptist preacher. He was as bad, in his own way, as Rev. Wright. Obama should do the same.
As I said in another thread, in many ways, Obama is playing his cards close to his vest on many issues. Once elected, who knows what we will hear coming from the White House.
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obama will not call his preacher man a racist, but if anyone even mentions obmas color they are called racist.
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One little detail, that guy has retired and Obama already addressed this at the start of the campaign. It was something along the lines of "he's like that old crazy Uncle everyone has, you just have to ignore some of what he says."
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One little detail, that guy has retired and Obama already addressed this at the start of the campaign. It was something along the lines of "he's like that old crazy Uncle everyone has, you just have to ignore some of what he says."
Kind of like Don Imus, right?
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Oh, I believe he's a few notches past Imus.
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Obama will need to bleed the old guy out completely for any sort of redemption. I believe the conservatives have their swift boat issue now, thick as concrete. Imagine the commercials.......
Hillary needs the nomination if the democrats are to have any hope at all.
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Yeager, this is how I see it. McCain couldn't have picked a better time to run for the presidency. Left enough for lefties, right enough for the righties because he's a RINO and that's better to them than any democrat.
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I met Alan White the other night.....what a sweet heart of a guy.
Yes is going on tour with Oliver Wakeman at the Moog this 2008. Maybe I will have redemption yet.
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Sweet! Only first album through Drama songs only please. And please please please play The Gates of Delirium and Ritual back to back. That would rock. Although I seriously think Steve Howe needs to be hit upside the head sometimes the way he likes to change riffs up when he's playing live. Oh, and Wurm, have to hear that. Well, you know, the set list would be long and the concert would be about 6 hours in duration. Here's to dreaming.
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And, even though he has been a member of Trinity United for the past 20 years, Obama said he had never witnessed Wright making such statements
Once again we are asked to suspend our disbelief, discard our common sense and ignore the man behind the curtain.
Is there anyone stupid enough to believe that statement? Of course there is! MILLIONS of them in fact.
We get the government we deserve.
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It doesn't matter. He offers hope AND change. Hope...and change.
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Actually, Obama does offer me "change I can believe in".
I'm believin' the change will be for the worse.
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Actually, Obama does offer me "change I can believe in".
I'm believin' the change will be for the worse.
What did you believe when you voted for Bush? I need at least one historical point to track before I place my faith in your beliefs. :D
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I believed that once again I was forced to choose the lesser of two weasels.
The only postive thing that I believed and still do believe was that a Bush win would ensure that I would be happier with the replacement Supreme Court judges Bush appointed than with replacement Supreme Court judges Kerry (or Gore) would have appointed.
This coming election is once again a choice between the lesser of two weasels no matter if it's Billary/BigJohn or Bama/BigJohn.
I'm still writing in Ron Paul. There's no way I'd vote for change from the most liberal Senator in the Congress; Billary is 16th, not much better.
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You know up until now I was on Obama's side, but after reading this I have to say I don't want him to win now. This is just over the top stuff, his preacher is an obvious racist, and I don't buy that he's never been in church when he's made any of these types of statements, he just happen's to conveniently miss church on the dates when he's made these types of racist statements, and anti American statements, I think not. If he didn't believe in the things his preacher is saying he should have left the church for a new one long ago.
Theres no way that he's missed all those type of sermons, and that no one ever told him that he's preached these kinds of things.
I call shenanigans on Obama.
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But but...he offers hope...and change. Hope AND change...but change is good, right Global Warming crowd? :lol
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http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1
Obama's minister would be a perfect match for the other side of a David Duke coin; both men preach hatred for no other reason than skin color.
I feel sorry for those who can not see what this says about Obama's beliefs. I know I wouldn't stay in a church for 20 years if I did not agree with what the minister was preaching, so it stands to reason that Obama feels the same as the racist minister.
From BBC News. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7297943.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7297943.stm)
"The black Chicago pastor brought Mr Obama to Christianity, officiated at his wedding and baptised his daughters."
"Mr Obama, a member of the church since the early 1990s..."
Can't help but wondering what religion he was before he was brought to Christianity by the good pastor.
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From BBC News. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7297943.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7297943.stm)
"The black Chicago pastor brought Mr Obama to Christianity, officiated at his wedding and baptised his daughters."
"Mr Obama, a member of the church since the early 1990s..."
Can't help but wondering what religion he was before he was brought to Christianity by the good pastor.
I believe is was Muslim, atleast that what his parents were I believe.
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I believe is was Muslim, atleast that what his parents were I believe.
He was not raised any religion. His father was raised Muslim but was an atheist by adulthood. His stepfather and mother were not religious.
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Once again we are asked to suspend our disbelief, discard our common sense and ignore the man behind the curtain.
Is there anyone stupid enough to believe that statement? Of course there is! MILLIONS of them in fact.
We get the government we deserve.
The last line is a sad statement. What makes it so is the truth behind it.
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obama is a socialist anyway both him and hilary are
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explains why this chick was in his houston office.
http://lonestartimes.com/2008/02/13/ocf2/
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"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.
"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.
This sounds a lot like Ron Paul to me.
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it was fun watching the racist supporters of obama try to tap dance their way around this last night on TV.
non of them condemned the racist preacher man, they actually supported what he said.
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Lol what's REALLY funny is the party of racial identity politics is imploding on itself over who is a more significant minority---blacks or women---and they CANT blame it on the evil right-wingers :aok Perhaps some good will come out of this, and people might start being judged by their character/abilities instead of....LOL :rofl :rofl that never happen :rofl :rofl
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Obama Earmarks For Wife’s Employer, Big Donor
Fri, 03/14/2008 - 16:00 — Judicial Watch Blog
Barack Obama touts himself as the only presidential candidate not corrupted by Washington politics but his earmark record contradicts that because he tried steering millions of federal dollars to his wife’s employer and the company of a top campaign donor.
Recently released earmarks reveal that the Democratic presidential candidate requested $1 million for the hospital that employs his wife Michelle and $8 million for a military contractor with a board member who has given hefty sums to his campaign.
The $1 million was requested in 2006 to build a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals, where Michelle Obama was vice president of community affairs. Michelle had already benefited from her husband’s flourishing political career with a huge salary increase that went from $121,910 in 2004 before he was elected to the Senate to $316,962 in 2005 just after he took office.
Obama requested the $8 million for weapons technology manufactured by a big defense contractor (General Dynamics) with very close ties to a major fundraiser named James Crown, a billionaire who also serves on the company’s board. Crown is also on Obama’s national finance committee.
The good senator also got nearly $1 million federal dollars for the renovation of a space center named after Crown’s grandfather, Henry, at Chicago’s Museum of Science and Industry. A complete list of Obama’s earmark record has been posted on his web site.
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Were these earmarks for hope or earmarks for change? Given his entrenchment in Chicago, Cook County and Illinois politics I would say "Hope for favors, and change in the campaign coffers." Could Scarlett Johansons' breasts be wrong about the great American hope for change?
Charon
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Obama never heard Wright utter an anti-American or racist remark despite listening to him for 20 years from the pulpit?
Worth repeating:
Once again we are asked to suspend our disbelief, discard our common sense and ignore the man behind the curtain.
Is there anyone stupid enough to believe that statement? Of course there is! MILLIONS of them in fact.
We get the government we deserve.
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You may be surprised but there are Catholics out there that never knew the parish priest was a pedophile. It just never came up (ptp). Til later.
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I doubt there are many Catholic priests that have various scenes of their buggery while standing in the pulpit playing out in 30 second video clips on the national news either. Would have been pretty hard to miss if you attended that Catholic for 20 years.
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Although I seriously think Steve Howe needs to be hit upside the head sometimes the way he likes to change riffs up when he's playing live.
:furious I hate it when they do that. One of the reasons I'm not a fan of "Live" albums
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I wish you guys would stop tearing down my main man, Obama. He is the deliverer of change, the provider of hope, the son of God as revealed to us in a blazing light of pure joy and eternal happiness.
Long live Obama! King of Kings! Father of all earths children!
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explains why this chick was in his houston office.
http://lonestartimes.com/2008/02/13/ocf2/
some of those quotes are funny stuff..
#4 Adee, it’s a delicate balance, especially when you’re rolling on the floor laughing at the thought of a room full of self-loathing, new-age hippies in a circle banging on drums to summon Gaia’s powers to propel their Nubian Prince into the presidency.
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I doubt there are many Catholic priests that have various scenes of their buggery while standing in the pulpit playing out in 30 second video clips on the national news either. Would have been pretty hard to miss if you attended that Catholic for 20 years.
How old is the clip again and how many are there over the last twenty years?
We are all held accountable for everything anyone associated with us throughout our lifetime has ever done. When we're running for office and the opposition is desperate enough. :)
But to nail that coffin and since you don't mind repeating yourself, let's once again pour over the transcript of the sermon, compare it to Obama's final word on it and see how much steam's left in the "Black guy hates whitey - don't vote for him!" train. :)
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How old is the clip again and how many are there over the last twenty years?
Interesting question. Many have noticed that the various clips of Reverend Wright which were popping up on youtube are being removed at a remarkably fast rate. Wonder why? Try to find one there of his 10 point speech why don't you?
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Interesting question. Many have noticed that the various clips of Reverend Wright which were popping up on youtube are being removed at a remarkably fast rate. Wonder why? Try to find one there of his 10 point speech why don't you?
That would be the liberal form of information control :)
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Interesting question. Many have noticed that the various clips of Reverend Wright which were popping up on youtube are being removed at a remarkably fast rate. Wonder why? Try to find one there of his 10 point speech why don't you?
Obviously a conspiracy brought on by this very thread. ;)
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How old is the clip again and how many are there over the last twenty years?
So by your Catholic comparison, a priest that only buggered one altar boy a long time ago isn't a pedophile?
I think the desperation is on your end of this discussion.
It is undeniable that Wright is a racist of the very worst sort. It's also undeniable that he was Obama's pastor for 20 years, that he married Obama, baptised his children and has been a personal friend. These facts all from Obama himself.
Again, no white candidate could survive such a situation if his long time white pastor spoke against the blacks in such terms as Wright uses/has used on far more than one occasion.
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So by your Catholic comparison, a priest that only buggered one altar boy a long time ago isn't a pedophile?
Is that what you got from that? This may go a long ways as to how you came to the conclusion that Obama's a racist. Just sayin'. ;)
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Just sayin' nuthin' there.
Find a post where I called Obama a racist.
There's a challenge for YOU.
You routinely dis people for lack of reading comprehension; see if you can actually figure out what I posted, not what you think I posted. There's another challenge for you. G'luck!
:rofl
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Just sayin' nuthin' there.
Find a post where I called Obama a racist.
There's a challenge for YOU.
You routinely dis people for lack of reading comprehension; see if you can actually figure out what I posted, not what you think I posted. There's another challenge for you. G'luck!
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Well then what are you saying? Obama shouldn't be elected because someone else other than him is a racist? Good job there. :aok
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If you can't figure it out, I can't help you. It's that basic reading comprehension thing. You might see your grade school teacher and ask for a refund.
Looks like you failed to accept and successfully complete either challenge there.
:lol
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Well then what are you saying? Obama shouldn't be elected because someone else other than him is a racist? Good job there. :aok
I would say if someone attend 20 years of KKK meetings and donated over 20k to the cause, and asked the leader to Baptist his kids and marry him off to his wife, Yes I’d say they shouldn't be elected.
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It really is disgusting. Hannity had a bunch of excerpts of his sermon after 9/11.
This minister should be banned from preaching as he is a racist jack off.
Take him out to the back. Two in the chest, one in the head eh?
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If you can't figure it out, I can't help you. It's that basic reading comprehension thing. You might see your grade school teacher and ask for a refund.
Looks like you failed to accept and successfully complete either challenge there.
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You got nothing then. Be sure to avoid admitting it. :D
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I would say if someone attend 20 years of KKK meetings and donated over 20k to the cause, and asked the leader to Baptist his kids and marry him off to his wife, Yes I’d say they shouldn't be elected.
Ah ... but then you're stuck proving that's a valid correlation. That is if you're up to it ... or ... you just pretend it's there and blame me for not agreeing. :) :lol
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You got nothing then. Be sure to avoid admitting it. :D
LOL!
The guy that continually tells people that they aren't reading what he wrote is hoist on his on petard!
Gotta love it. You have missed what most people in this thread have said, continually trying to twist it into what you want to think they said.
You're BBS career here personifies nothing.
I've been very clear on this subject; you just aren't reading what I wrote.
Oh and you didn't accept the challenges. C'mon, Let's see `ol blue tree the coon, so to speak. You're on the spot; can you provide?
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One thing that amazes me is Obama's minister preaches the ills of government and yet pushes Obama who wants bigger government.
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LOL!
The guy that continually tells people that they aren't reading what he wrote is hoist on his on petard!
Gotta love it. You have missed what most people in this thread have said, continually trying to twist it into what you want to think they said.
You're BBS career here personifies nothing.
I've been very clear on this subject; you just aren't reading what I wrote.
Oh and you didn't accept the challenges. C'mon, Let's see `ol blue tree the coon, so to speak. You're on the spot; can you provide?
Don't be a headcase. Your assersion. Your crusade. Your responsibility to take on the mantle of proof before you demand someone disproves. Think about it? Yeah? :D
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All anyone who wants to see Obama lose the election has to do is give his minister for 20 years some air time. No comentary, no condemnation, nothing else, just make public some of his past sermons. Is that so wrong?
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All anyone who wants to see Obama lose the election has to do is give his minister for 20 years some air time. No comentary, no condemnation, nothing else, just make public some of his past sermons. Is that so wrong?
Well, it's a theory. Most that aren't already wanting to believe that are probably not prone to getting hyper over hype to the point of connecting freckles to farts. So maybe you'll hafta stick to commentary, condemnation and .... heaven forbid .... at least a pretention of rational correlation to increase pitchfork and torch sales. :)
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billary whiped out the crazy preacher too soon .. it'll all be forgotten before the convention..
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Your assersion. Your crusade. Your responsibility to take on the mantle of proof before you demand someone disproves.
Reading comprehension again I see. I haven't asked you to disprove anything. I think that asking you to debate anything is demanding far too much of you. You aren't here to engage in any discussions; you're here to stroke your vanity by criticizing others when they engage in discussions. You don't put any of your thoughts out, you just kibbitz when others put their thoughts out. You're a troll, a gadfly, nothing more; you merely interrupt, you don't contribute.
The challenge was for you to find a statement where I called Obama a racist. You got nuthin'. You yakked before you thought and now you're trying to cover your scat on a tile floor by changing the subject.
The other challenge was for you to read what I've actually written, not what you want to believe I wrote. Once again, old blue couldn't find the tree, let alone the coon.
Troll on, dude. It's your modus operandi and your legacy on the AH BBS.
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Reading comprehension again I see. I haven't asked you to disprove anything. I think that asking you to debate anything is demanding far too much of you. You aren't here to engage in any discussions; you're here to stroke your vanity by criticizing others when they engage in discussions. You don't put any of your thoughts out, you just kibbitz when others put their thoughts out. You're a troll, a gadfly, nothing more; you merely interrupt, you don't contribute.
The challenge was for you to find a statement where I called Obama a racist. You got nuthin'. You yakked before you thought and now you're trying to cover your scat on a tile floor by changing the subject.
The other challenge was for you to read what I've actually written, not what you want to believe I wrote. Once again, old blue couldn't find the tree, let alone the coon.
Troll on, dude. It's your modus operandi and your legacy on the AH BBS.
Does this mean you don't have anything better to add to win my conviction regarding whatever you've decided you're convinced of regarding this thread this particular moment? Cause I've got time. :)
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I don't think trolls like you have convictions. So, no problemo!
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I don't think trolls like you have convictions. So, no problemo!
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Well ... thinkin' and knowin' can be two different things. Got nuthin' still? Doesn't seem to make me as angry as it does you, right now. Though I am a little concerned for your emotional state. Do I need to help you out a bit by letting you rant without response for a few days, weeks, months? Will you ever get over this or if I'm not impressed or convinced by something else you post on down the road is all this gonna resurface? Want a hug? :rofl :D
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Your concern is touching but misplaced.
Trolls don't make me angry, they make me laugh, like toddlers running around shouting "look at me!, look at me!"
As for you being impressed or convinced, that's another non-factor. You don't contribute here.
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Your concern is touching but misplaced.
Trolls don't make me angry, they make me laugh, like toddlers running around shouting "look at me!, look at me!"
As for you being impressed or convinced, that's another non-factor. You don't contribute here.
*ShruG* Well ok then. Are we done yet or do you have more to ... umm .... "contribute?" Cause, quite frankly, I'm not seein' it and my time's become more valuable than you right now. :)
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You're not seeing it because you only look at yourself.
Go back through the thread if you like. I have commented on-topic several times, just not to you. It' not possible to reply to you on-topic because you never post on topic.
Of course, I've also wasted some posts responding to your nonsense in a like manner. It's called mirroring.
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Imus made a remark not necessarily racist. It was more descriptive and while not a well chosen, he did get the point across.
The so-called preacher was "attacking" a group of folks based on their color and blaming that color for causing failures in another color. I can pretty much guarantee you that if it was a white preacher the government would be looking into that churches tax status.