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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: swareiam on March 19, 2008, 07:42:35 AM
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please choose your answers from the choices provided below.
Q. What was the first aircraft to don what we know today as invasion stripes prior to the D-Day invaison in June of 1944? Was it the ???
1. Spitfire IX
2. C-47 Dakota
3.Typhoon IB
4. Boston II
Please feel free to elaborate on your answers.
Good Luck...
Cheers :aok
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From wikopedia
"The use of recognition stripes was conceived when a study of the effects of thousands of aircraft using IFF on D-Day concluded that they would saturate and break down the existing system. Air Chief Marshal Sir Trafford Leigh-Mallory, commanding the Allied Expeditionary Air Force, approved the scheme on May 17, 1944. A small scale test exercise was flown over the OVERLORD invasion fleet on June 1, to familiarize the ships' crews with the markings, but for security reasons, orders to paint the stripes were not issued to the troop carrier units until June 3 and to the fighter and bomber units until June 4 "
The answer,according to wik. would be whatever planes were in the test exersize. probably one of each.
From wikopedia
"An earlier use of black and white bands was on the Hawker Typhoon and early production Hawker Tempest Mark Vs. The aircraft had a similar profile to the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 and the bands were added to aid identification in combat. The order was promulgated on 5 December 1942. At first they were applied by unit ground crews, but they were soon being painted on at the factory. Four 12 inch wide black stripes separated by three 24-inch white, underwing from the wingroots. From early 1943 the Typhoons also had a yellow, 18 inch wide stripe on each of the upper wings, centred on the inner cannon. All of these markings were officially abandoned 7 February 1944."
This is where your thinking typhoon but they were not called invasion stripes
These Quotes were from wikopedia so the accuracy may be questionable.
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P-51s and P-47s also got a recognition band (white or yellow) on each wing, stab/elevator and fin/rudder because the could be confused with 109s and 190s respectively.
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I think C47 because of all the friendly fire casualties that occured during the invasion at Salerno Italy. They needed to make sure that type of incident would not be repeated.
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From wikopedia
"The use of recognition stripes was conceived when a study of the effects of thousands of aircraft using IFF on D-Day concluded that they would saturate and break down the existing system. Air Chief Marshal Sir Trafford Leigh-Mallory, commanding the Allied Expeditionary Air Force, approved the scheme on May 17, 1944. A small scale test exercise was flown over the OVERLORD invasion fleet on June 1, to familiarize the ships' crews with the markings, but for security reasons, orders to paint the stripes were not issued to the troop carrier units until June 3 and to the fighter and bomber units until June 4 "
The answer,according to wik. would be whatever planes were in the test exersize. probably one of each.
From wikopedia
"An earlier use of black and white bands was on the Hawker Typhoon and early production Hawker Tempest Mark Vs. The aircraft had a similar profile to the fluffe-Wulf Fw 190 and the bands were added to aid identification in combat. The order was promulgated on 5 December 1942. At first they were applied by unit ground crews, but they were soon being painted on at the factory. Four 12 inch wide black stripes separated by three 24-inch white, underwing from the wingroots. From early 1943 the Typhoons also had a yellow, 18 inch wide stripe on each of the upper wings, centred on the inner cannon. All of these markings were officially abandoned 7 February 1944."
This is where your thinking typhoon but they were not called invasion stripes
These Quotes were from wikopedia so the accuracy may be questionable.
Actually the invasion stripes were for allied ground gunners to identify friend from foe. The invasion stripes were almost always on the underside of the wings and elevators and on the rear portion of the fuselage. The yellow id stripes were on both British and Japanese aircraft on the leading edge of the wings and was for the sole purpose of head on engagements where national identification was impossible.
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Many a/c still had their 'invasion stripes' in 1945. The lower part was still there but the upper portion had been painted over.