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Title: La-7
Post by: BMV1995 on March 20, 2008, 09:39:23 AM
I personaly think it is one of the best planes in the game:
It is fast
It climbs fast
and my favourite think:
It's guns are at the nose which makes it easier to aim

there is only one problem: ammo

any other problems you know of?
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: EvlPrsn on March 20, 2008, 09:42:15 AM
yeah, it cant even take hits from 7mm and .303cal guns!!!    :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Pannono on March 20, 2008, 09:52:38 AM
LgAy-7
i find the nose guns harder to aim as the nose is large and hard to see over when pulling lead
also, as evl said, crap armor compared to something like a P40. also, poor fuel economy
pluses are acceleration, speed, climb rate, good turner.
i use em only when my base is  under attack from a mission and i need speed
they accelerate after take off very well and get to 300mph very quickly
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Ghosth on March 20, 2008, 11:47:10 AM
400 rounds? LOL

Try flying the Yak with 120 rnds of cannon.

Ohh and when you get tired of the la dweeb comments try the la5.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Noir on March 20, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
lol ghost, one thing great when you are a Yak pilot is that you get used to very few ammo...like "WHOAAA that 109 got 200 rounds in the cannon ! l"

BTW the la5 and la7 with twin cannons got more rounds per gun, thus a longer firing time, you may want to try it.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Alky on March 20, 2008, 03:42:51 PM

any other problems you know of?

Severe gas shortage  :rolleyes:  :mad:
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: RATTFINK on March 20, 2008, 05:48:37 PM
Yeah, it's also the plane that you don't need skill to fly and kill too...
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Pannono on March 20, 2008, 06:49:54 PM
Yeah, it's also the plane that you don't need skill to fly and kill too...
hmm sounds like spits
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 20, 2008, 07:10:10 PM
hmm sounds like spits
At least people dont HO in spits...often...
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: angelsandair on March 20, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
At least people dont HO in spits...often...

I do, if they merge on me, i ho em.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Xasthur on March 20, 2008, 10:13:26 PM
lol ghost, one thing great when you are a Yak pilot is that you get used to very few ammo...like "WHOAAA that 109 got 200 rounds in the cannon ! l"

BTW the la5 and la7 with twin cannons got more rounds per gun, thus a longer firing time, you may want to try it.

I benefited noticably from spending a lot of time in the 109 K4. 65 rounds of cannon makes you pay a lot of attention to how your gunnery works.

Provided you can apply that to other calibre weapons effectively, your ammo usage will be far more economical than someone who learned to shoot in a P51 or P47 where you have thousands of rounds to play with.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Nimrod45 on March 20, 2008, 10:26:51 PM
Oh Bull, 75% of the the Spit that I am merging with is tryin to go for the Hoe.  Luckily I have a rudder and ailerons to avoid, or sometimes I comply with there intent.

Back on topic, the LA is a great, I think it has plenty of ammo, it will cut things in half, but get close and don't waste ammo on snap shots.  It seems a little slow to pull through in the top of a loop.  If you get in trouble you can get away from about anything.  Watch out though there might be a Corsair around, good LA killers.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: BnZ on March 20, 2008, 10:47:04 PM
Yeah, it's also the plane that you don't need skill to fly and kill too...

LA7 is not an easy plane for noobs, other than hit and run, because it packs on speed too easily, requires throttle work, and it IS an energy fighter compared to the ubiquitous Spits and N1Ks, after all.  And since the patch, it seems to actually have the sort of accelerated snap stall you'd expect out of a plane with this weight-to-power ratio, as opposed to its former handling, which was strangely benign. (Patch has eliminated the bad views though, with thinner frames it now has a claim to pretty darn good all-around vis.) Spits, Hurris, and N1Ks will always be easier for noobs to fly in furballs, base defense, etc.

That said, the problem with the plane is that in experienced hands it absolutely out-classes all the other LW high-speed E fighters at typical MA alts. The 190s, 109G/Ks, P-51s, P-47s, and Typhoon literally have no decisive advantages over it down in the weeds where the fighting usually is. (Earlier, using a combo of small-yo-yos, throttle, and flaps, I was able to stay more or less saddled behind a turning Spit16 in an LA7, and eventually shoot it down, takes awhile with my gunnery. Doubtless the pilot was probably inexperienced, but that is still crazy turning performance in a plane that will also go 380 mph on the deck.)

Something that basically renders five important families of LW aircraft obsolete under typical MA conditions seems abit extreme. Fortunately, it seems that once pilots gain experience, they usually do not fly the LA7 beyond desperate base defense. But there is no guarantee that the cultural bias against the LA7 will always be sufficient bulwark.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Serenity on March 21, 2008, 02:03:54 AM
At least people dont HO in spits...often...

If I get HOd in a 39 or K-4, I HO right back. Those taters make them rethink their decision... on the way to the ground.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Anaxogoras on March 21, 2008, 04:23:49 AM
This thread is degenerating quickly. :lol

I see people try to HO with every aircraft regularly, it doesn't make a difference what they fly.  The only ones who are really hurting themselves are the Spixteen pilots because they can so easily turn angles without bleeding e, why risk it?

Anyway, there's far too much whining about the La-7.  Sometimes I see 5-6 plane furballs with nothing but spixteens.  I'd love to see a couple La-7s in there for variety sometimes.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Nimrod45 on March 21, 2008, 07:47:42 AM
I rank the whining about Hoe's right up there with the whining about LA's.  The LA is a great plane and what I started in though I have moved on to the Corsair now.  Maybe those who dislike the LA so much should just fly it for a while because I'm thinking that they are having trouble fighting against them for there to be so much complaining about one plane, bst way to beat em is to learn em.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Rich46yo on March 21, 2008, 04:47:20 PM


                             I had a funny the other night. I upped an LA-7 to defend a base the other night from a bunch of CV based vulchers. I got HO'd, or attempted HO'd by every kind of CV based airplane we have. At the end I even survived a ramming by a Hellcat. Somehow I survived the Alt/monkeys and got the plane on the runway. When my "4 kills" came out on the comm-scroll someone said on 200, "we dont give WTGs for LAs". I thought that was hilarious, after surviving the CV basedHO'ing, vulching,alt monkey, ram-tard airplanes.
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Spazzter on March 21, 2008, 04:55:17 PM
I personaly think it is one of the best planes in the game:
It is fast
It climbs fast
and my favourite think:
It's guns are at the nose which makes it easier to aim

there is only one problem: ammo

any other problems you know of?


If you are having problems with 450 cannon rounds then you need some gunnery practice.  That ammo load is good for at least 7 to 10 kills depending on how well you saddle up.  The only problem I see with the La7 is the fuel load out and short legs.

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Spazz
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Anaxogoras on March 22, 2008, 04:57:34 AM
A more charitable interpretation about ammo problems would be in regards to ballistics. :salute
Title: Re: La-7
Post by: Masherbrum on March 22, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
Yeah, it's also the plane that you don't need skill to fly and kill too...
I disagree.   Strongly disagree.