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Title: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 22, 2008, 04:04:48 PM
Well, let's get started  :aok

When in Offline (gonna get my subscription back up and running soon), I notice that whenever I push my hat switch, my pilot looks that way. DOH! But, when I stop pushing it in the direction I want to see, my pilot always looks out of the left wing. I've recalibrated, restarted my comp, and redid my controller configurations.

What next?  :frown:
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: RTR on March 22, 2008, 04:20:07 PM
use the arrow and up / down keys to set you view in front where you want it, then press F10.

cheers,
RTR
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 22, 2008, 04:24:32 PM
use the arrow and up / down keys to set you view in front where you want it, then press F10.

cheers,
RTR

Just tried it, didn't work. I went into ext. view and hit F8, it was like the hat switch was constantly being pushed left.

I push UP on it, it looks front left (when in normal view mode, not F8). I can't look to the right at all, either.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Hazard69 on March 22, 2008, 10:47:18 PM
Thats a bug thats been around forever. I still don't get how it occurs (think it has something to do with saving a head position when outside that positions FOV). The fix I found was......umm lemme think......
in your case press the look left key (its num6 on my setup) and hit Home. Then release all controls and hit Home  again. That should return you to default views. Then readjust and hit F10.

Hope this helps. :pray :aok
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 23, 2008, 12:03:39 AM
Sorry, no help   :P Thanks for trying though, gents.

What I'm thinking right now is that the game isn't recognizing some of my controller buttons. I can't look to the right, right front, and right back. I also can't shoot all my guns at the same time with my trigger, but I can shoot them separately with the two buttons I have for primary fire and secondary fire.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Hazard69 on March 23, 2008, 06:47:16 AM
Sorry, no help   :P Thanks for trying though, gents.

What I'm thinking right now is that the game isn't recognizing some of my controller buttons. I can't look to the right, right front, and right back. I also can't shoot all my guns at the same time with my trigger, but I can shoot them separately with the two buttons I have for primary fire and secondary fire.

The reason you cant turn in those directions is because you cant look fwd and backward. In your case the game thinks forward is left so no looking backward = right.
Is this for all planes or only a specific one? I bet this started when you were trying to adjust a view. If this i just in a particular plane then you might try deleting the ###.hps file of the affected plane.

Damn still cant remember how I fixed it when it happened to me.

Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: The Fugitive on March 23, 2008, 09:16:30 AM
Are you using an outside software to set your switches/buttons on your stick? CH Manager, or what ever the Saitek one is?

If you are, to set a button on, and a button off for each, otherwise it just does the button on and your stuck looking out your ear  :)

Double check your stick setting in windows to see if it all works there. If so, move on to the game. With the "stick mapping" screen open each push of a button will show you what it is assigned to.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: mensa180 on March 23, 2008, 02:15:03 PM
Press esc.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 23, 2008, 04:21:01 PM
Press esc.
Works temporarily, then when I go to look around again it keeps doing that. I don't use any outside programs. It's on all planes.

My hat switch is a little cone on the top of my joystick. It goes in all the directions of the compass. And no, it's not stuck.

(http://www.woot.com/Images/Sale/Saitek_Cyborg_Graphite_Joystick_-_2_PackW5E-detail.jpg)
What my joystick looks like, but mine doesn't have the little black chunk sticking out it's arse. Grey piece on the top is what I use for front, back, ect. ect. I use my keyboard as rudders, trim, and all those goodies. And it IS wired.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: mensa180 on March 23, 2008, 06:48:14 PM
Try it with the stick unplugged.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 23, 2008, 06:54:41 PM
Try it with the stick unplugged.
You mean with the key pad? It works fine with the key pad. I think its my joystick, but I don't know why.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: uberslet on March 24, 2008, 06:05:37 AM
when i had my cyborg evo it happened to me. i think i remapped all my buttons, (no, not calibrate), especially my hat switches. i had my forward hat switch face me forward, i pressed it and hit f10. once i stopped it, i put my controls how they had been before. hasnt happned since
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 24, 2008, 08:17:11 PM
when i had my cyborg evo it happened to me. i think i remapped all my buttons, (no, not calibrate), especially my hat switches. i had my forward hat switch face me forward, i pressed it and hit f10. once i stopped it, i put my controls how they had been before. hasn't happened since
Does not work for me.  :(

Again, when I go into F8 view, it constantly turns left as if my left hat switch was being pressed.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: SPKmes on March 24, 2008, 08:53:04 PM
try the tab or caps lock key. I have the same issue sometimes in the MA and I hit one of all the keys down that side, It's always at a time that I'm unable to look at the keys I'm hitting as I'm looking all over the show for the guy I've lost.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: DamnedRen on March 25, 2008, 03:28:20 AM
You may want to try hitting your "home" key then F10. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: wrongwayric on March 25, 2008, 10:01:09 AM
If you have access to another joystick try it and see if it works correctly. It's always a good idea if you can afford it to have a spare stick, i have 5. If that doesn't work uninstall your stick drivers, reinstall and recalibrate in windows/AH. I'm thinking i had that same problem with that stick when i had it in use, i've got 2 of those sitting here gathering dust. Think there is also a way to clear all your stick settings and calibrations from AH and start from scratch. Shoot Scuzzy an e-mail as he sent me the instructions on how to do that with my X52.
AKsleepy
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 25, 2008, 06:53:34 PM
try the tab or caps lock key. I have the same issue sometimes in the MA and I hit one of all the keys down that side, It's always at a time that I'm unable to look at the keys I'm hitting as I'm looking all over the show for the guy I've lost.
Doesn't work.
You may want to try hitting your "home" key then F10. Hope this helps.
Tried it, but will try it again. *EDIT* Doesn't work.
If you have access to another joystick try it and see if it works correctly. It's always a good idea if you can afford it to have a spare stick, i have 5. If that doesn't work uninstall your stick drivers, reinstall and recalibrate in windows/AH. I'm thinking i had that same problem with that stick when i had it in use, i've got 2 of those sitting here gathering dust. Think there is also a way to clear all your stick settings and calibrations from AH and start from scratch. Shoot Scuzzy an e-mail as he sent me the instructions on how to do that with my X52.
AKsleepy
Nope, don't have access to any spare joysticks. And I also don't want to go through the hassle of sending emails to people. Call me lazy, but I'm going to figure this out without e-mail!  :lol
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 25, 2008, 06:59:37 PM
Reserving space for an in-game film of my problem. My set "fire all guns" button doesn't register either. Could somebody give me instructions on how to post a film viewer film here? Please excuse my cluelessness  :confused:
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 26, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
What should I doooo??  :cry  :lol
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Urchin on March 26, 2008, 09:15:11 PM
Its a joystick problem.  Try a different USB port. 
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 26, 2008, 11:45:17 PM
Switching USB ports doesn't work.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 27, 2008, 02:48:13 AM
Make sure your computer is ON.

Then run your joystick diagnositc software to see if your joystick is okay.



 :D
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Hazard69 on March 27, 2008, 06:42:49 AM
Works temporarily, then when I go to look around again it keeps doing that. I don't use any outside programs. It's on all planes.

That then sounds like a stick problem. Try un-assigning the left, left fwd and left back hat switch positions from views and assign something like fire primary, secondary, all guns etc. If the guns keep firing after you have released the swich then you know the hat switch is faulty or your stick drivers are messed up.

Try uninstalling stick drivers and try again. Kermit is actually right, the diagnostic software may be able to show you if its not working right.

Hope this helps. :aok

 
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 27, 2008, 06:00:09 PM
Make sure your computer is ON.

Then run your joystick diagnositc software to see if your joystick is okay.
I don't have any Joystick Diagnostic Software, at least not that I'm aware of.

That then sounds like a stick problem. Try un-assigning the left, left fwd and left back hat switch positions from views and assign something like fire primary, secondary, all guns etc. If the guns keep firing after you have released the swich then you know the hat switch is faulty or your stick drivers are messed up.

Try uninstalling stick drivers and try again. Kermit is actually right, the diagnostic software may be able to show you if its not working right.

Hope this helps. :aok

 
I will try that out. I don't think I can uninstall the stick drivers, because I think I don't have any.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Hazard69 on March 28, 2008, 10:23:13 AM
I don't have any Joystick Diagnostic Software, at least not that I'm aware of.
I don't think I can uninstall the stick drivers, because I think I don't have any.

That might be your problem right there. Download the Saitek Stick drivers (different from the stick software) from here-->http://www.saitekusa.com/USA/down/drivers.htm (http://www.saitekusa.com/USA/down/drivers.htm).

In windows, open Start>Settings>Control Panel>Game Controllers. Your stick should be listed there. Click properties. The next screen to follow should be of all your various control inputs (axes n buttons). Move the stick about, press a few buttons and check the responses. If your hat's sticking, it will show as pressed continuously. If not then it probably the windows default drivers messing up. (Microsoft and Saitek don't seem to see eye to eye ;)).

Good Luck :aok
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 28, 2008, 06:36:16 PM
That might be your problem right there. Download the Saitek Stick drivers (different from the stick software) from here-->http://www.saitekusa.com/USA/down/drivers.htm (http://www.saitekusa.com/USA/down/drivers.htm).

In windows, open Start>Settings>Control Panel>Game Controllers. Your stick should be listed there. Click properties. The next screen to follow should be of all your various control inputs (axes n buttons). Move the stick about, press a few buttons and check the responses. If your hat's sticking, it will show as pressed continuously. If not then it probably the windows default drivers messing up. (Microsoft and Saitek don't seem to see eye to eye ;)).

Good Luck :aok
Went to the website, said there were no drivers or software available.

When I go to properties, it shoes my left hat switch constantly being pressed left, but only after I move my hat.

Also, it shows my button 1 constantly being pressed. My X, Y, and Z axises look fine.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 29, 2008, 12:40:18 AM
Went to the website, said there were no drivers or software available.

When I go to properties, it shoes my left hat switch constantly being pressed left, but only after I move my hat.

Also, it shows my button 1 constantly being pressed. My X, Y, and Z axises look fine.
Hmm, can't find the modify button.

Alright, so I've decided I'm going to get a new joystick. Thank you all for your help.  :salute
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Hazard69 on March 29, 2008, 01:12:53 AM
When I go to properties, it shoes my left hat switch constantly being pressed left, but only after I move my hat. Also, it shows my button 1 constantly being pressed. My X, Y, and Z axises look fine.
Alright, so I've decided I'm going to get a new joystick. Thank you all for your help.  :salute

Yep the hat's sticking. Its not the actual "grey" structure that has to stick but the switch contact for left seems to have lost its spring. I used to play with a stick like that for a while. Unmapped the hat and kept using the Numpad keys to look around. Now even with a working hat I find myself looking with the Numpad :o. Don't you just hate bad habits  :furious. :D :D
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: Messiah on March 31, 2008, 07:53:55 PM
Never liked that HAT switch thingy, I've always stuck to the numpad.
Title: Re: Whiplash, anyone?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 31, 2008, 08:26:35 PM
Never liked that HAT switch thingy, I've always stuck to the numpad.
Thanks for bumping a long dead thread...

But I've removed the mappings for my hat switch buttons and I'm using the numpad instead.