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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BTW on March 24, 2008, 08:29:21 PM
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I didn't want to muddy up the Obama threads, but any following the story have certainly tuned into Fox news a few times. I hope you got to catch Karl Rove on a few of the shows. After being pigeon holed as some type of diabolical monster in the mainstream press, its a pleasure to see how intelligent and entertaining he is. I remember when the late Bill Walsh tried to be a color commentator for football games. Although he was an obvious football genius, I didn't find him entertaining as a football analyst or color commentator. Karl Rove rivals James Carville in being an entertaining political commentator.
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I remember when the late Bill Walsh tried to be a color commentator for football games.
I would think that the late Bill Walsh wouldn't add much to any conversation.
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I would think that the late Bill Walsh wouldn't add much to any conversation.
I thought he (Bill Walsh) would be good. Who knows, in a few years he may have been, But I think he only did it for one year. I remember when Madden started. He was BAD. But within a few years he was one of my favorite football commentators. I don't think he's as good now, but for awhile in the late 80's- mid 90's he was top notch.
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Bill Walsh would have been good, the late Bill Walsh wouldn't.
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Bill Walsh would have been good, the late Bill Walsh wouldn't.
oooh - well hit me in the head with a brick. Obviously he wasn't late when he tried his hand at it. He's late now :)
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After being pigeon holed as some type of diabolical monster in the mainstream press, its a pleasure to see how intelligent and entertaining he is.
Are those things mutually exclusive?
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I agree. The few times I heard Rove chatting about the political scene I was impressed at his insight and the way he expresses himself. Very interesting and entertaining, and made me understand why a presidential candidate would value his opinions. He has been successful, if controversial.
Its kinda funny how all you have to do is just mention his name in a liberal crowd like the Air America crowd and WHOA... look out, there's howling, screeching, jumping up and down and foaming at the mouth at SATAN'S DEMON FROM HELL - if not SATAN himself! Death wouldn't be good enough for Karl Rove. A thousand deaths and burning at the stake wouldn't be good enough! Oh the gnashing of teeth, and wailing and raising of burning torches! Its funny as hell.
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I think Rove is the first Bush person to be hired by ANY media outfit--Either Time or Newsweek wanted to hire him, and many on the staff threatened to quit--contrast that with the 7 or 8 Ex-Clinton people who are on news shows every day
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and many on the staff threatened to quit--contrast that with the 7 or 8 Ex-Clinton people who are on news shows every day
More proof that most media is a trumpet for the looney left
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Are those things mutually exclusive?
Probably not, but the point was the one dimensional portrayal of Karl Rove in the liberal press. When you get to see the engaging person he is and you ask, "are these reporters that dumb or blind not to see the engaging aspects of this man, or they are so corrupt and manipulative as not to note the engaging aspects of this person?"
On a local level I can compare it to this. I wholeheartedly believe Mayor Nagin has bad judgement, is a little nuts, and is incompetent. But he is an engaging person. In a one on one conversation, you would probably come out liking him. Only a dishonest reporter would omit that fact.
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Rove = Wonderful and Charming. Media = Evil and Vindictive. Check.
Well the second one is close, at least.
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I didn't want to muddy up the Obama threads, but any following the story have certainly tuned into Fox news a few times. I hope you got to catch Karl Rove on a few of the shows. After being pigeon holed as some type of diabolical monster in the mainstream press, its a pleasure to see how intelligent and entertaining he is. I remember when the late Bill Walsh tried to be a color commentator for football games. Although he was an obvious football genius, I didn't find him entertaining as a football analyst or color commentator. Karl Rove rivals James Carville in being an entertaining political commentator.
You have got to be kidding. No matter how charming or how charismatic anyone on any side is, republican or democrat, .... involvement in the outing of a CIA agent under cover in any case is tantamount to treason. The world really is in danger when people start holding this man in anything less than contempt, no matter how intelligent he seems. Pigeon-holed? He has been documented to have worked with Libby on the outing of Plame. You have an extreme case of "American Forgetfullness".
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With a pet name of "T.urd Blossom" how can he not be the bestest ever? :D
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Rove could win anyone an election.Massive insight into what need to be done to win.
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Eh ... all he really did was discover email/the internet was so fast that mud could not only outpace reality but that people really do believe everything they're predisposed to believe when it hits their email box. Even the phone tactics he picked up from predecessors is old hat now. Gerrymandered states may still play a pretty big role, though. ;)
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carville is a nut case
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involvement in the outing of a CIA agent under cover in any case is tantamount to treason. ..... He has been documented to have worked with Libby on the outing of Plame.
This is not meant to be a high jacking, But Mooray you don't really believe this do you? I have to image there are a dozen threads on this subject. But, One she was never undercover, Two never out of the country at the time of revealing her name, and Three, never covert. Thus no crime committed. Libby got what Martha got, perjury charges. Not Outing charges.
Sorry Carry on.
As to stay on topic, Rove is great on TV and a true master mind of politics, Hell he got cuddlinghunk elected not Once but Twice against far superior intellectual man. And it is that that drives the moonbats crazy.
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This is not meant to be a high jacking, But Mooray you don't really believe this do you? I have to image there are a dozen threads on this subject. But, One she was never undercover, Two never out of the country at the time of revealing her name, and Three, never covert. Thus no crime committed. Libby got what Martha got, perjury charges. Not Outing charges.
Sorry Carry on.
As to stay on topic, Rove is great on TV and a true master mind of politics, Hell he got cuddlinghunk elected not Once but Twice against far superior intellectual man. And it is that that drives the moonbats crazy.
You on this planet? Never undercover? Keep on carrying water. Don't let a little thing like a fact get in the way.
co·vert /adj. ˈkoʊvərt, ˈkʌvərt; n. ˈkʌvərt, ˈkoʊvərt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[adj. koh-vert, kuhv-ert; n. kuhv-ert, koh-vert] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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By Joel Seidman
Producer
NBC News
updated 4:24 p.m. ET, Tues., May. 29, 2007
WASHINGTON - An unclassified summary of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame's employment history at the spy agency, disclosed for the first time today in a court filing by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, indicates that Plame was "covert" when her name became public in July 2003.
The summary is part of an attachment to Fitzgerald's memorandum to the court supporting his recommendation that I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's former top aide, spend 2-1/2 to 3 years in prison for obstructing the CIA leak investigation.
The nature of Plame's CIA employment never came up in Libby's perjury and obstruction of justice trial.
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carville is a nut case
He's not so much a nut as a product of Arkansas inbreeding.
Every time I see him I can just imagine him sitting on a shack porch, drooling and pickin a banjo. (Insert Deliverance theme music...)
:O,
Wab
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moray, you just can't let go of it, the Plame case is over, nobody got charged for "outing" a secret agent because she was not a secret agent, libby was charged with forgetting who said what to who and when.
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Are those things mutually exclusive?
Have you ever seen the guy talk? he does not fit the diabolical monster mold. Comes across as a rather intelligent soft spoken man of some conviction to that which he believes. Kind of rare these days.
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AKWabbit, James Carville isn't an Arkansan...so he can't be the result of Arkansas "inbreeding." Carville was born in Georgia, and was raised in Louisiana. He has Cajun ancestry, and he's an ass. :D
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RE; Karl Rove;
So just because he's evil doesn't mean he's stupid!
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RE; Karl Rove;
So just because he's evil doesn't mean he's stupid!
He's stupid like a fox and should be stoned to death. :)
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Ya know... I can smear Peanut butter on any part of my body and if I attach a note that says "Your Vote" any Politician will lick it off.
Mac
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You can bet your bottom dollar Bush will give a blanket pardon on his last day in office to a Rove, Cheney, Libby and a few other cronies for any crimes committed under the Constitution because they were "trying to be good Americans and fight terrorism".
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Just like Clinton did huh?
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Good 'Ol Bill...
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm
http://www.realdemocracy.com/prdonall.htm (http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm)
Now explain this crap.
Mac
Oh and this is just the "lil crap" ....
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Only ones that should be pardoned are those two Border Patrol Agents.
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Only ones that should be pardoned are those two Border Patrol Agents.
Agreed!!!
Mac
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Just like Clinton did huh?
Pretty much. But this will be more like Ford's pardon of Nixon.
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Or Kennedys pardons... oh wait he didn't have the time to pardon anyone....
Wait Lincoln...dammm never mind.
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I thought rove was an advisor? how can someone who gives advice be considered a criminal?
In what way would rove need a pardon? unless he signs legal documents or something......
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I thought rove was an advisor? how can someone who gives advice be considered a criminal?
In what way would rove need a pardon? unless he signs legal documents or something......
Rove has never been accused or charged with a crime. But that doesn't stop the Huffington Post from wishing he catches cancer and dies a painful death. Those are bitter, bitter people. Those are the people Bible passages warn against :)
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Its kinda funny how all you have to do is just mention his name in a liberal crowd like the Air America crowd and WHOA... look out, there's howling, screeching, jumping up and down and foaming at the mouth at SATAN'S DEMON FROM HELL - if not SATAN himself! Death wouldn't be good enough for Karl Rove. A thousand deaths and burning at the stake wouldn't be good enough! Oh the gnashing of teeth, and wailing and raising of burning torches! Its funny as hell.
Wow, you called it so very early on in the thread too. No suprise here to those that proved this statement without a doubt correct. Pretty funny if you ask me.
:rofl
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Ya it's funny the effect guys like Rove and Carville have on some folks :)
shamus
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Pretty much. But this will be more like Ford's pardon of Nixon.
Very unlikely.
You want outrageous? Have Ted Kennedy teach swimming lessons ;)
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Have you ever seen the guy talk? he does not fit the diabolical monster mold. Comes across as a rather intelligent soft spoken man of some conviction to that which he believes. Kind of rare these days.
Yeah Denis Rader was a good man to many people he knew as well. Maybe not to the 10 women he killed but to his family and members of the church he attended he just didn't seem like that kind of guy.
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Just like Clinton did huh?
So as long as clinton did it, it is ok? Wonder who bush is using to flavor his cigars?