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Clinton 'misspoke' about '96 Bosnia trip
By ANN SANNER, Associated Press Writer 42 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign said she "misspoke" last week when saying she had landed under sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia as first lady in March 1996. She later characterized the episode as a "misstatement" and a "minor blip."
The Obama campaign suggested the statement was a deliberate exaggeration by Clinton, who often cites the goodwill trip with her daughter and several celebrities as an example of her foreign policy experience.
During a speech last Monday on Iraq, she said of the Bosnia trip: "I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
According to an Associated Press story at the time, Clinton was placed under no extraordinary risks on the trip. And one of her companions, comedian Sinbad, told The Washington Post he has no recollection either of the threat or reality of gunfire.
When asked Monday about the New York senator's remarks about the trip, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson pointed to Clinton's written account of it in her book, "Living History," in which she described a shortened welcoming ceremony at Tuzla Air Base, Bosnia-Herzegovina.
"Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac with local children, though we did have time to meet them and their teachers and to learn how hard they had worked during the war to continue classes in any safe spot they could find," Clinton wrote.
"That is what she wrote in her book," Wolfson said. "That is what she has said many, many times and on one occasion she misspoke."
Asked about the issue during a meeting with the Philadelphia Daily News' editorial board on Monday, Clinton said she "misspoke."
"I went to 80 countries, you know. I gave contemporaneous accounts, I wrote about a lot of this in my book. You know, I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things — millions of words a day — so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement," she said.
A spokesman for rival Barack Obama's campaign questioned whether Clinton misspoke, saying her comments came in what appeared to be prepared remarks for the Iraq speech. His campaign's statement included a link to the speech on Clinton's campaign Web site with her account of running to the cars. Clinton's campaign said what is on the Web site is not the prepared text, but a transcript of her remarks, including comments before the speech in which she talked about the trip to Bosnia.
Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a written statement that Clinton's Bosnia story "joins a growing list of instances in which Senator Clinton has exaggerated her role in foreign and domestic policymaking."
The Obama campaign statement also links to a CBS News video of the Bosnia trip posted on YouTube, which shows Clinton and her daughter, Chelsea, walking across the tarmac from a large cargo plane, smiling and waving, and stopping to shake hands with Bosnia's acting president and greet an 8-year-old girl.
"This is something that the Obama campaign wants to push 'cause they have nothing positive to say about their candidate," Wolfson said Monday.
Clinton's written account contradicts her comments last Monday about the welcoming ceremony.
Just after the speech, Clinton reaffirmed the account of running from the plane to the cars when she was asked about it during a news conference. She said was moved into the cockpit of the C-17 cargo plane as they were flying into Tuzla Air Base.
"Everyone else was told to sit on their bulletproof vests," Clinton said. "And we came in, in an evasive maneuver. ... There was no greeting ceremony, and we basically were told to run to our cars. Now, that is what happened."
Former Army Secretary Togo West, who accompanied Clinton to Bosnia, said he was not surprised "that there could be confusion" when someone who has taken a number of trips tries to recall details of a particular trip 12 years earlier.
"The important thing is that she was there. Our soldiers saw she was there and heard her and knew that our country cared about them and what they were doing," West told the AP during a telephone interview.
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And this must be the sniper apprentice.
Former Army Secretary Togo West, who accompanied Clinton to Bosnia, said he was not surprised "that there could be confusion" when someone who has taken a number of trips tries to recall details of a particular trip 12 years earlier.
If you have came under fire, I can guarantee you will not have any problem recalling the event......vividly.
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Just another foible in the Clinton...errr Democratic armor. Looks like another screwup since they let Howard Dean run the DNC...which isn't that an acronym for a stillborn child.
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I went to 80 countries, you know. I gave contemporaneous accounts, I wrote about a lot of this in my book. You know, I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things — millions of words a day — so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement," she said.
If my Seven year old spoke this poorly I would verbally kick his bellybutton and make him write this sentence 25 times with out the "you knows" I'm surprised she didn't toss in a few "like you know" or "I goes".
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My my. Fine candidates the democrats are fielding this election. A racist black man and a lying ex-lawyer. Hehe! Perhaps Pelosi will throw her hat in the election ring and save the party's chances this fall? :lol
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It`s a comedy/circus for sure. I like it.
OsamaObama and Billary are doing the very best they can to nail each other.
There is enough mud being slung that Bubba could run his Monster truck through it.
............and it`s early yet.
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It`s a comedy/circus for sure. I like it.
OsamaObama and Billary are doing the very best they can to nail each other.
There is enough mud being slung that Bubba could run his Monster truck through it.
............and it`s early yet.
I think we need a Carville 5 minute clip here. Replace "Republican Party" in his speech with "Democratic Party". :lol :rofl :lol :rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0I8ZM5NZXI&feature=related
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The Clinton's do not know how to do anything but lie...
"I did not have sex with this woman."
The husband is a lying bastard, should you expect anything different from the woman that put up and stayed with his lying, cheating arse.
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That wasn't a sniper. It was the RODENATOR!
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That wasn't a sniper. It was the RODENATOR!
:lol :lol :lol
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The Clinton's do not know how to do anything but lie...
"I did not have sex with this woman."
apparently, there was no intercorse. So how is it lying when he said he didn't boink her? :D
Also, you are not looking at politicians objectively, they all lie/spin the truth, it is part of the modern day political process. :aok
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apparently, there was no intercorse. So how is it lying when he said he didn't boink her?
Clinton never said he didn't boink her.....he said he didn't have sex with her......they don't call it oral sex for no reason. :aok
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I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things — millions of words a day — so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement," she said.
Millions?
She must only be counting the meaningless ones.
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apparently, there was no intercorse. So how is it lying when he said he didn't boink her? :D
Also, you are not looking at politicians objectively, they all lie/spin the truth, it is part of the modern day political process. :aok
Tell me again how it is possible to look at lying objectively?
It's all relative using what scale?
It's either lying... or it's not, right?
Whether it's a dem. or rep. to lie, still is wrong. The Clintons just get their name in lights for it because they land more lie kills than others, I'm guessing. Doesn't mean it's excusable though.
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Tell me again how it is possible to look at lying objectively?
It's all relative using what scale?
It's either lying... or it's not, right?
Whether it's a dem. or rep. to lie, still is wrong. The Clintons just get their name in lights for it because they land more lie kills than others, I'm guessing. Doesn't mean it's excusable though.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4) That's one hell of a duck and cover. :lol
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Clinton never said he didn't boink her.....he said he didn't have sex with her......they don't call it oral sex for no reason. :aok
ding ding ding
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That wasn't a sniper. It was the RODENATOR!
:rofl :aok
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh194/fastblastus/Rodenator4.jpg)
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(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/8668097/310217762.jpg)
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Could it be? Hillary = Voss
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Clinton never said he didn't boink her.....he said he didn't have sex with her......they don't call it oral sex for no reason. :aok
He didn't "have" sex with her, she "performed" sex on him, very distinct difference. :D
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Yeah, go get a BJ from a girl you know then ask your wife if its sex.
:rolleyes:
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I only date married women cuz the single girls tend to call my wife.
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Just kiddin
Mac
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He didn't "have" sex with her, she "performed" sex on him, very distinct difference. :D
and there in lies the issue of what is the underlying problem in this country... :aok
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"I say a lot of things — millions of words a day"
Wow, like that statement right there many of those words probably aren't true.
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"I say a lot of things — millions of words a day"
With a forked tongue that must be taxing... LOL
Mac
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"I say a lot of things — millions of words a day"
With one or 2 of them she might actually be telling the truth or actually meant what she said.
Another yahoo story.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080320/cm_thenation/1300860;_ylt=ApVGXzfiRlYronE1Dc5QUJ2s0NUE
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and there in lies the issue of what is the underlying problem in this country... :aok
What, that someone tried to avoid answering a question about a BJ? :rofl Isn't that what every politician and lawyer in this country does? I mean the "wording" of a law is the very foundation of its power, right? So you think Clinton "spinning" the BJ question is the root of all our problems? :lol I have yet to meet a lawyer that didn't spin the truth for his/her personal gain. It has always been a war of words with law and lawyers! :aok
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"I say a lot of things — millions of words a day"
With one or 2 of them she might actually be telling the truth or actually meant what she said.
Another yahoo story.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080320/cm_thenation/1300860;_ylt=ApVGXzfiRlYronE1Dc5QUJ2s0NUE
Her statement is, to be precise, a lie.
As is 98% of the words that come from that pie hole. (That`s giving a 2% error margin that I haven`t seen yet)
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Sinbad was referenced in the thread-opening article - his quote is great.
In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the "scariest" part of the trip was wondering where he'd eat next. "I think the only 'red-phone' moment was: 'Do we eat here or at the next place.'"
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/sinbad_unloads_on_hillary_clin.html (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/sinbad_unloads_on_hillary_clin.html)
Note to Hillary: trust your memory by verify with YouTube.
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"I say a lot of things — millions of words a day"
With a forked tongue that must be taxing... LOL
Mac
Good one Mac. ;)
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What, that someone tried to avoid answering a question about a BJ? :rofl Isn't that what every politician and lawyer in this country does? I mean the "wording" of a law is the very foundation of its power, right? So you think Clinton "spinning" the BJ question is the root of all our problems? :lol I have yet to meet a lawyer that didn't spin the truth for his/her personal gain. It has always been a war of words with law and lawyers! :aok
Skyrock, the problem with the country is that people try to spin there way out of their problems. They constantly lie about what they do or say in an effort to garner more power. They also seem to have this wonderous ability to avoid responsibility for their actions.
The fact that politicians and lawyers are frequently seen as the poster children of these problems does not change the fact that the problems are what is causing this country to go to hell.
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"I say a lot of things — millions of words a day"
With a forked tongue that must be taxing... LOL
Mac
:aok
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Sinbad was referenced in the thread-opening article - his quote is great.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/sinbad_unloads_on_hillary_clin.html
Note to Hillary: trust your memory by verify with YouTube.
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Is this link child friendly? :lol
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Did we just now realize that she's a politician?
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Listen, any man who isn't man enough (whether he's the president or not) to just come right out & own up to his own actions doesn't need to be in a position of authority over the rest of us. If you screw around, at least be man enough to admit it instead of tell half truths in an effort to mask the full truth. He was a real putz then ~ and so is his awful little wife.
Atonement on their behalf isn't necessary ~ they just need to move aside.
Until we (the voting public) stop electing folks like that... it'll continue.
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Listen, any man who isn't man enough (whether he's the president or not) to just come right out & own up to his own actions
So, if you had an "illegal" investigation into your business, you'd just happily give them every detail of your life? Paula Jones? LMAO! :rofl
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Yes, he should own up to any wrong doing. Frequency in folks being scumbags doesn't excuse it at all. And calling an investigation illigitimate shouldn't be used as a shield to cover up those wrong doings, either.
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Yes, he should own up to any wrong doing. Frequency in folks being scumbags doesn't excuse it at all. And calling an investigation illigitimate shouldn't be used as a shield to cover up those wrong doings, either.
Here's the thing. The people likelyto admit their wrong doings aren't likely to do those wrongs in the first place. People who appear to have no morals, like Bill Clinton, will lie as easily as they commit those crimes in the first place. Yes, sexual harrassment by a public official of a subordinate is a crime.
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And calling an investigation illigitimate shouldn't be used as a shield to cover up those wrong doings, either.
Paula's lawsuit was dismissed. The Rutherford institute was on a head hunt(pardon the pun)!
"Although the original suit was dismissed, lawyers (funded largely by conservative think-tank The Rutherford Institute) had introduced testimony of other Clinton affairs, and Monica Lewinsky's name came up. Clinton's lie that he did not have relations with Lewinsky led to his impeachment in 1998. Jones, who settled her suit with Clinton for $850,000, now claims that she was victimized by both Clinton and his Republican opponents. She has since appeared nude in Penthouse and Playboy and appeared with Tonya Harding on Fox TV's Celebrity Boxing."
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Yes, sexual harrassment by a public official of a subordinate is a crime.
and a witch hunt is still a witch hunt! :aok
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and a witch hunt is still a witch hunt! :aok
It's not like there wasn't a victim. Remember Paula Jones? Perhaps you think it's ok for a man to abuse a woman?
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Just a point of correction here. It wasn't a "man" that abused her, just a chronologically adult male.
:huh
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It's not like there wasn't a victim. Remember Paula Jones?
"Paula Jones now claims that she was victimized by both Clinton and his Republican opponents. She has since appeared nude in Penthouse and Playboy and appeared with Tonya Harding on Fox TV's Celebrity Boxing." LMAO, sure sounds like a victim. :rolleyes:
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"Paula Jones now claims that she was victimized by both Clinton and his Republican opponents. She has since appeared nude in Penthouse and Playboy and appeared with Tonya Harding on Fox TV's Celebrity Boxing." LMAO, sure sounds like a victim. :rolleyes:
So what Clinton did was ok because his victim decided to cash in after the incident?
May not be related but many girls who are abused by their fathers turn to prostitution later.
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SR, excuse making and blame shifting doesn't make what he did pardonable. Bottom line is that he is a real putz. I'm sorry that so many nice people like you defend dicks like him.
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So what Clinton did was ok
What exactly did he do? Why would she go to a hotel room to meet a married man? Don't be naive!
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doesn't make what he did pardonable.
What exactly did he do?
Bottom line is that he is a real putz.
Not going to disagree with you there! :aok Although I do think that he was a very effective statesmen.
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What exactly did he do?
apparently, there was no intercorse. So how is it lying when he said he didn't boink her? :D
Also, you are not looking at politicians objectively, they all lie/spin the truth, it is part of the modern day political process. :aok
Wagging his little finger "I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman!"
He got caught. He needed to just own up to it instead of trying to spin it.
Clearly shows that while he may have a dick, he doesn't have any balls.
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Wagging his little finger "I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman!"
He got caught. He needed to just own up to it instead of trying to spin it.
Clearly shows that while he may have a dick, he doesn't have any balls.
So you got pissed off that he stated a fact? Maybe you're just to biased to see the big picture about that whole scenario? Let me break it down to you:
Paula Jones goes to see a married man in a hotel room. They get close and he asks her to kiss his boinker. She says no. She leaves. Three years later, she is approached by a conservative group of lawyers and decides to file a lawsuit for harrassment. It is thrown out for lack of merit. The same lawyers use that lawsuit to subpeona Lewinsky and then you get what you got out of Clinton.
Now, I want you to know how I feel about Clinton. He is/was a womanizer and a sex addict. I think he has/had problems with that part of his life. Not making excuses for his character, I just am not blinded by what really goes on in politics. It's cut throat and souless!~
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All of my responses were entirely regarding him specifically trying to wiggle out of trouble about Lewinsky by saying he didn't have sexual intercourse with her. Squinting his beady little eyes, pointing his "how dare you" little finger, and making it sound like "how dare you accuse me of something so awful!"
The fact is that he got caught and found a way to semi-lie/semi-tell the truth in a way that would support his effort to not get caught.
Ball-less sack of crap. That's all he is. And THAT is the "bigger picture."
*edit* and actually, if his obnoxious little wife is willing to accept that kind of behavior, she's just as big of an idiot as he is. If I didn't know anything at all about her, that alone would be grounds for removal from consideration from my vote.
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skyrock.. If you got a bj in your office and got caught you would get fired. In any government office it would happen so quick your head would spin and you know it.
If, for some reason you lied about it in court you would probly go to jail on a perjury charge. It seems the mayor of detroit is finding this out...
klinton got off easy.. if nothing else.. he should have been fired for showing a total lack of good sense and judgement.
lazs
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All of my responses were entirely regarding him specifically trying to wiggle out of trouble about Lewinsky by saying he didn't have sexual intercourse with here. Squinting his beady little eyes, pointing his "how dare you" little finger, and making it sound like "how dare you accuse me of something so awful!"
But he didn't have sexual intercorse with her. :confused:
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skyrock.. If you got a bj in your office and got caught you would get fired. In any government office it would happen so quick your head would spin and you know it.
If, for some reason you lied about it in court you would probly go to jail on a perjury charge. It seems the mayor of detroit is finding this out...
klinton got off easy.. if nothing else.. he should have been fired for showing a total lack of good sense and judgement.
lazs
I agree, wholeheartedly! I just don't get why some get so upset about him spinning those words, I found it to be hilarious! :rofl
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But he didn't have sexual intercorse with her. :confused:
When did he ever say intercourse? He said he never had sexual relations.
And btw, if you were a state employee and state troopers summoned you to the state governor you wouldn't ask questions, you'd accompany them. Keep spinning and you're gonna get dizzy.
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When did he ever say intercourse? He said he never had sexual relations.
And btw, if you were a state employee and state troopers summoned you to the state governor you wouldn't ask questions, you'd accompany them. Keep spinning and you're gonna get dizzy.
She asked to go, and was escorted by the troopers. :aok
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Awe, man, I wish I was able to go back & change my posts to
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Unbelievable the grouchy mood I get into sometimes! What a foul mouth! Sorry y'all.
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Awe, man, I wish I was able to go back & change my posts to
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Unbelievable the grouchy mood I get into sometimes! What a foul mouth! Sorry y'all.
and I just thought u were getting all worked up over a womanizing liar! :Dhee hee <S> Mom :salute
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Yeah... sorry about that. No, normally I'd have shrugged it off & left it at "he's a putz." I don't know why I went off on that rant. It was awful. Sorry. <S> :)
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Happy ya didn't TxMom, I got a laugh outta "He may have a dick but he doesn't have any balls" comment. :lol
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LOL
Don`t apoligise for having posted the funniest thing I saw yesterday TxMom. :)