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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SgtPappy on March 25, 2008, 10:22:00 PM
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We've had a good amount of Tibet - China threads and I'm wondering what positions people have taken, if any and why.
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i don't care, its china problem
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If the U.S. tries to intervene it could be a flash point for world war 4.
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We've had a good amount of Tibet - China threads and I'm wondering what positions people have taken, if any and why.
I'm sayin' China by four touchdowns. No contest.
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What's the over/under?
I refuse to answer until I check the line on this one.
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Nah, China by 5 goals. They play the football with the soccer ball.
There will be no WW4. Everyone will tsk, tsk, for a short while and then the world will avert its face and turn to another problem to tsk at.
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Tibet, but china will win this war.
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I've been to Tibet. Nice place. Clean air. Kindest people I've ever come into contact with. China's population control policies are well on the way to making Tibetans extinct.
It would be pleasant if China just left them alone, but I suppose that's just a childish notion at this point.
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We've had a good amount of Tibet - China threads and I'm wondering what positions people have taken, if any and why.
It's their own "Internal Problem". They need to figure it out.
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If the U.S. tries to intervene it could be a flash point for world war 4.
Ok i may be lost here but when was WW3?? iraq does not count as WW3
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I can't understand why anyone here would have "a position" about it.
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I can't understand why anyone here would have "a position" about it.
Yeah, right, Rolex. As long as we can shop at Wal-Mart and feast upon Chinese produced products at a cheap price who gives a Rat's Arse if those products are produced by slave, child or convict labor? And who cares that China has NO EPA regulations, so by buying those products you contribute to pollution? And if they have to squash a few opponets in Tibet- or Tien Mien Square- or Formosa- as long as we can buy products made in China it's all good- right???
Our trade policy throws level playing fields and human rights all out the window anyway...so yeah, let's grab while the grabbing's good and when it all comes crashing down around us we'll point the finger at each other and it's all our fault in the end.
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Nuke the Chinese into Kung Pao bits.
How's that for a position?
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As long as we can shop at Wal-Mart and feast upon Chinese produced products at a cheap price who gives a Rat's Arse if those products are produced by slave, child or convict labor? And who cares that China has NO EPA regulations, so by buying those products you contribute to pollution?
China just started industrializing 20+ years ago.
Current China is like the United States during the Second Industrial revolution. At that time there's no EPA, decent labor laws, and child/slave labor was rampant.
Give them time. CPC might include their own version of EPA and western-inspired labor laws in the future 5-year plans.
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I'd like to see a free Tibet. Heck, I'd like to see a free everywhere. But China is the big dog and Tibet is the lamppost.
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three gorges dam, let taiwan do it though.
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Tibet: 0
China: 22
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i don't care, its china problem
What about China's support of Sudan, and the acts of genocide that Sudan has committed in Darfur? China has repeatedly blocked the UN Security Council from taking significant action in Darfur.
And what about all of the sophisticated military weapons that China has been selling to Iran? These include hi-tech long range anti-ship missiles, that could cut off all shipping from the Persian Gulf. China has also blocked tougher UN Sanctions regarding Iran's nuclear program.
Do you think that the world will be safer with a nuclear Iran???
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Is there really any other postition to be had than to root for Tibet?
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It's their own "Internal Problem". They need to figure it out.
Tibet is no more a part of China, as the various Baltic States ( Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Belarus ) were ever a part of Russia.
All of them were simply gobbled up by Communistic expansion.
It is thus not an "internal" problem. The closest comparison here would be the Soviet Union's 1956 military crackdown in Hungary.
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three gorges dam, let taiwan do it though.
Perhaps the RAF could bring some Lancasters out of retirement, and loan them to the Taiwanese???
(http://www.civilwarmall.com/bookseller/images/DamBusters.jpg)
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Lets face it, there is not one political leader with the balls to face China down about anything. They've got too much dirty laundry tied up in that country to go there.
What China is doing to Tibet would get any other nation in the world an instant reaction of some kind, be it economic or military.
China can do whatever the hell it likes because it is the 3000lb gorilla and there is nothing anyone can do to stop them.
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or we keep sneaking over TMDs one part at a time in trade for pens and such
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china has to be evil.. they sell stuff to walmart and richard gere hates em soooo...
course.. I shop at walmart and pretty much don't like gere so I don't really care. Things may all come crashing in on our heads as airhead says but in the meantime.. I am gonna enjoy the nice weather and cheap stuff.
lazs
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I don't give 2 toejams about tibet or the Dalilama.
Besides if china wasn't in Tibet, what would trendy libs and hollywierdos have to protest/whine about. :rofl
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What about China's support of Sudan, and the acts of genocide that Sudan has committed in Darfur? China has repeatedly blocked the UN Security Council from taking significant action in Darfur.
And what about all of the sophisticated military weapons that China has been selling to Iran? These include hi-tech long range anti-ship missiles, that could cut off all shipping from the Persian Gulf. China has also blocked tougher UN Sanctions regarding Iran's nuclear program.
Do you think that the world will be safer with a nuclear Iran???
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You're missing the point here Sig... It's not his problem because his problem right now is tackling the devious, often deceptive rules of English grammar. He'll get back to you once he masters the correct application of the possessive.
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Is there really any other postition to be had than to root for Tibet?
This is quite true.
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It's not like we have much leverage anymore given our economic entanglements. I doubt threre would be much we would do if Taiwan became an issue.
Toad had the right idea a few years back on Taiwan, if I remember correctly, about just giving them a few nukes and not worrying about it anymore. Apparently we partially went that route by accident :) That would really piss PRC off but, given the economics, what would they really do about it?
Charon
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i don't care, its china problem
Maybe it's just me, but considering the nature of the thread- if you read your post out loud exactly how it's written and with the right inflection, it makes me laugh my arse off.
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china has to be evil.. they sell stuff to walmart and richard gere hates em soooo...
course.. I shop at walmart and pretty much don't like gere so I don't really care. Things may all come crashing in on our heads as airhead says but in the meantime.. I am gonna enjoy the nice weather and cheap stuff.
lazs
A lot of products from China are cheap crap, though. Although it is becoming more and more difficult to not buy products from China, I am trying my best to avoid them when there is a feasible alternative. And many times you can buy a better product from another country for almost as low a price.
I am surprised that you are so much in favor of supporting a totalitarian dictatorship that is so opposite from the United States in its laws and governmental values. Foundations of American democracy such as freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom to own arms, and freedom of speech simply don't exist in China.
If you lived in China, you would most definitely be living in a forced labor camp prison.
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This is quite true.
No, the other position is to continue to shop at Walmart and buy all the Chinese products that you can.
And also support companies that are official sponsors of the China Summer Olympics this year, such as McDonalds and Coca Cola. Instead, one can eat at Burger King and drink Pepsi, and thus support freedom and democracy.
Besides, I have always preferred the Whopper myself:
(http://digitalagency.typepad.com/digitalagency/images/2007/04/21/whopper.jpg)
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The Burgers' are better at Hungry Jacks! :aok
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White Castle Burgers, Yummmm..... problem is there so small ya need a dozen for 2 hungry people
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three gorges dam, let taiwan do it though.
agreed
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Besides if china wasn't in Tibet, what would trendy libs and hollywierdos have to protest/whine about. :rofl
:aok
Yeah..it takes the heat off my leather jacket for a while. :)
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and how is extermination of Tibet by china any different from what Saddam was doing to Kurds ?
If i remember correctly most of you cared deeply about Kurds as an excuse to go beat up on Iraq...
Remember poor Kurds !!!
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Ok i may be lost here but when was WW3?? iraq does not count as WW3
Some people refer to the Cold War era as WW3
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My own personal position in benignly indifferent.
I suspect Tibet's positition will be Missionary.
:rolleyes:,
Wab