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Title: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: stephen on March 29, 2008, 01:49:31 AM
WHy isnt it possible to have a fair in the Da?

This guy try's to tell me how a co-alt alt merge means he can dive, or climb into a merge, and after being spanked twice sais I have no idea how the DA works.

Granted on the 1st merge in and f4u he won, but only through diving into the fight.
Afterwards im faced with his repeated rantings on the subject as he was subjected to my gunz on several off-angle Ho pasess, and one 6 oclock kill shot.
My point is this:stop complaining, you agree to rules stick to them, and if you die trying to break them ,im all the more the better pilot, I personaly dont care what edited vid he comes up with...popysed ended up witht the most killz, and he found himself on the loser end of gunz most of the time.

grow up dude, and stop hiding behind excuses. :aok


Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 29, 2008, 02:16:32 AM
im asking you now if you want too see the film... and BTW the standard merge in the DA isint going 5 k above your enemy. its same alt, and yes most people do dive on the merge.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: chrish483 on March 29, 2008, 02:32:44 AM
dont mind them sunfan,  people that want to prove something will get out there in the MA and show there a team player and willing to work with the rest in a goal with the war or game as it is really.

Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: nirvana on March 29, 2008, 02:37:42 AM
Grow up dude, PM him.  There's no reason to put this on the public boards except to try and incite some sort of flame fest.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 29, 2008, 02:40:03 AM
dont mind them sunfan,  people that want to prove something will get out there in the MA and show there a team player and willing to work with the rest in a goal with the war or game as it is really.


sory bro im not a team player, I only play for the fights.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 29, 2008, 03:07:08 AM
ok I posted it anyway  http://rapidshare.com/files/103224714/film137.ahf.html I have another film of the rest of the fights, but it's kinda long. 
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: chrish483 on March 29, 2008, 03:17:44 AM
sunfan  your not a team player? well the bish members will know now, thought you were,  asking for help wont get you any budy. 
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 29, 2008, 03:22:50 AM
sunfan  your not a team player? well the bish members will know now, thought you were,  asking for help wont get you any budy. 
im not loyal to one chess piece, i go where the fight is.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: chrish483 on March 29, 2008, 03:32:22 AM
maby you should and someone would look after your six
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: Xargos on March 29, 2008, 03:33:27 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,228842.0.html

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Bragging Right Rules


One-versus-One Standard Bout Rules:

  • If you challenge someone, he has the choice of the first round plane set.
  • The fuel will be 25% unless otherwise stated as being a handicap for a particular contestant.
  • If someone loses a wing, tail, or engine, the round is over.
  • Only two guys to a dog fight.
  • Only one dog fight at a time.
  • The winner of a round has the choice of the next plane set.
  • Both contestants must get a fresh plane before the next round.
  • The bout winner will be best out of five rounds.
  • Rounds must start Co Alt and Co E before the initial merge.  This means no going above the agreed altitude before the initial merge in order to gain more E then your opponent, but you may dive under your opponent once you are in icon range.
  • No Head-Ons on the initial merge.
  • No rams.
  • If you get more then 2K from your opponent while your plane’s nose is pointed away from him, you lose that round.  If both contestants are nose away, that round is forfeit.  This includes altitude.
  • Any modifications of the Standard Bout Rules must be noted in text upon take-off of the first round, and both contestants must agree in text before the initial merge of the first round.  This includes any fuel handicaps.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: chrish483 on March 29, 2008, 03:41:44 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,228842.0.html



its not that,  in this game is making friends on all sides not just your own.
becoming apart of something in the fight means alot,  respect means alot.  be a team player.  for the time ive played i dont know if i have any respect at all but ill try as i can to gain all i can,  its not about stats and kills  to me anyway.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 29, 2008, 03:52:25 AM
This guy try's to tell me how a co-alt alt merge means he can dive, or climb into a merge, and after being spanked twice sais I have no idea how the DA works.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,228842.0.html


read the 9th rule  stephen
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: uptown on March 29, 2008, 08:56:37 AM
Grow up dude, PM him.  There's no reason to put this on the public boards except to try and incite some sort of flame fest.

what up nirvana! congrats on the coast guard thing  :salute


Sorry about the hijack there fellas...as you were  :D
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: SkyRock on March 29, 2008, 09:12:17 AM
for 5 years the "general" consensus rules for duels in the DA are pretty much what Xargos posted.  When you are in icon range, you can merge above or below the fella, it's your choice and has no advantage or disadvantage aboutit.  If you both started same alt same e when icons first appear, it's all on an even platter.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: Bosco123 on March 29, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
usually, when I go to the DA with someone, I follow what KOTH does. we star at 6K, dive down on icon range, and begin my first merge pretty much on the deck.
From there we usually don't get past 6K.
Thats just how I do it.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: RedTopp on March 29, 2008, 11:10:17 AM
Well I have gone against Sunfan in the DA, and found him to be a gracious and very good foe.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: CAP1 on March 29, 2008, 11:20:57 AM
im asking you now if you want too see the film... and BTW the standard merge in the DA isint going 5 k above your enemy. its same alt, and yes most people do dive on the merge.

i think what he meant by "diving" was that you climbed to a higher than agrred to alt, while outside vis range..then dove to the agreed alt, to store extra e. i've seen others do that, and even my own squad CO did it to me a couple times.....i didn't reralize what he was doing till i watched the films afterwards.......although i did kil him a couple times :D
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 29, 2008, 01:05:28 PM
i think what he meant by "diving" was that you climbed to a higher than agrred to alt, while outside vis range..then dove to the agreed alt, to store extra e. i've seen others do that, and even my own squad CO did it to me a couple times.....i didn't reralize what he was doing till i watched the films afterwards.......although i did kil him a couple times :D
nope... thats not what happened at all. I leveled off at 5k and he got mad bcuz hes a n00b and thought your suposed to stay straight and level the whole time.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: SFCHONDO on March 29, 2008, 01:54:14 PM
Well I have gone against Sunfan in the DA, and found him to be a gracious and very good foe.

Agreed....On another note, Love your Avatar...Had that pic as my Wallpaper....GO BRONCOS   :rock

Using this one at the moment

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/SFCHONDO/poster79613698bbb.jpg)
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: stephen on March 29, 2008, 03:41:34 PM
I just find it funny that even though I was drunk, it was possible for me to lose graciously in the plane you picked while adhearing to the rules, but when its my pick of A/C all sorts of wierd merges started happening, and when I won a couple the complaining was even harsher.

The fact you had some other guy on channel calling me a retard rather hurt my feelings, but I digress....
From now on I will submit to no rules outside of plane type and fuel load out...no one wants to do what they say they will do if it means possibly dying in the process.

By the way Sunfan, it wasnt all bad, you showed yourself to be an excellent stick in the f4u, and to answer somones question of why I posted this thread, the fact is I knew if I didnt get in the forums 1st, Sunfan and friends where gonna post both the video and thier own version of what happend....This is why I never DA, the Ma has no rules and is truly a better example of the kind of flying I persue.
The DA can be polluted by one persons ideal of what "FAIR" is,thus isnt the same reflection of situational awareness or fair play, because honestly....war AINT fair.

P.S. My Handle is Popysed, and that was my 1st DA in 7 years of flying under several renditions of the name popyseed.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: Bronk on March 29, 2008, 04:11:56 PM
I just find it funny that even though I was drunk, it was possible for me to lose graciously in the plane you picked while adhearing to the rules, but when its my pick of A/C all sorts of wierd merges started happening, and when I won a couple the complaining was even harsher.

The fact you had some other guy on channel calling me a retard rather hurt my feelings, but I digress....
From now on I will submit to no rules outside of plane type and fuel load out...no one wants to do what they say they will do if it means possibly dying in the process.

By the way Sunfan, it wasnt all bad, you showed yourself to be an excellent stick in the f4u, and to answer somones question of why I posted this thread, the fact is I knew if I didnt get in the forums 1st, Sunfan and friends where gonna post both the video and thier own version of what happend....This is why I never DA, the Ma has no rules and is truly a better example of the kind of flying I persue.
The DA can be polluted by one persons ideal of what "FAIR" is,thus isnt the same reflection of situational awareness or fair play, because honestly....war AINT fair.

P.S. My Handle is Popysed, and that was my 1st DA in 7 years of flying under several renditions of the name popyseed.

  you had all the advantages and still lost, and your crying about fair? :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 29, 2008, 04:51:07 PM
I just find it funny that even though I was drunk, it was possible for me to lose graciously in the plane you picked while adhearing to the rules, but when its my pick of A/C all sorts of wierd merges started happening, and when I won a couple the complaining was even harsher.

The fact you had some other guy on channel calling me a retard rather hurt my feelings, but I digress....
From now on I will submit to no rules outside of plane type and fuel load out...no one wants to do what they say they will do if it means possibly dying in the process.

By the way Sunfan, it wasnt all bad, you showed yourself to be an excellent stick in the f4u, and to answer somones question of why I posted this thread, the fact is I knew if I didnt get in the forums 1st, Sunfan and friends where gonna post both the video and thier own version of what happend....This is why I never DA, the Ma has no rules and is truly a better example of the kind of flying I persue.
The DA can be polluted by one persons ideal of what "FAIR" is,thus isnt the same reflection of situational awareness or fair play, because honestly....war AINT fair.

P.S. My Handle is Popysed, and that was my 1st DA in 7 years of flying under several renditions of the name popyseed.
So why ask for a DA if you dont know the rules? and BTW the only fight you won was Ki84 with a 3k alt advantage.
As to your other point of war not being fair, this is a game not war. A game witch enables us to put are dogfighting skills too the test. The whole point of the DA is to have a fair fight, and not try to get an advantage.
Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: CAP1 on March 29, 2008, 10:09:02 PM
nope... thats not what happened at all. I leveled off at 5k and he got mad bcuz hes a n00b and thought your suposed to stay straight and level the whole time.

ya know..i think i stuck my virtual foot in my virtual mouth....i watched the film you posted.....the one with the 190 v 190.....was that him? looked like someone was screaming in on you at warp 4 or so..........if it was.....well, then i apologize if you took any insult to what i said before.....

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Title: Re: SunFan no fair fight
Post by: RedTopp on March 30, 2008, 09:48:06 AM
Agreed....On another note, Love your Avatar...Had that pic as my Wallpaper....GO BRONCOS   :rock

Using this one at the moment

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/SFCHONDO/poster79613698bbb.jpg)

Yes I am a Bronco fanatic. Nothing wrong at all with your current avatar  :O
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