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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on April 01, 2008, 01:41:25 AM
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Anyone going? I'm heading down after work on Friday and camping until Monday. :rock
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Look they're making a left turn! :rofl
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Look they're making a left turn at 200 mph! :O
fixed
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Or, you could go the other way with F1; Look! Someone made a pass!
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Are they still in business?
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Dammm!!!
Check 6! VansCrew...
Bank Left..
:rofl
Mac
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Dunno RPM, I quit watching about 8 years ago when I realised a pass was something to celebrate in F1 rather than something to expect. BRB, going to have a smoke....shhhhhh!
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At texas would it not be closer to 185-190mph? :D
edit: heres some info
Track Vitals
Location
Fort Worth, TX
Distance / Track Type
1.5 Mile Oval 24-degree bank
Nextel Cup Top Race Speed
151.055 by Carl Edwards on 11/6/2005
Nextel Cup Top Qualifying Speed
196.235 by Brian Vickers on 11/3/2006
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At texas would it not be closer to 185-190mph? :D
edit: heres some info
Track Vitals
Location
Fort Worth, TX
Distance / Track Type
1.5 Mile Oval 24-degree bank
Nextel Cup Top Race Speed
151.055 by Carl Edwards on 11/6/2005
Nextel Cup Top Qualifying Speed
196.235 by Brian Vickers on 11/3/2006
That would be incorrect ye of little knowledge. That is top race speed (overall average start to finish) and lap speed (average). They reach top speed of over 200mph going into turns 1 and 3. TMS is one of the fastest tracks on the circuit. They even considered making it a restrictor plate track because of the speed the cars reached.
The Texas track is a lot like Atlanta and Lowe's Motor Speedway, but there's one big difference. The asphalt at Texas has really good grip, and the race pace doesn't slow down. So the racing actually is quicker. Bill Elliott set a qualifying record in 2002 with a 27.80-second lap, which is almost 195 mph. That's an average speed, so driving off into the corners in Turns 1 and 3, the cars go well in excess of 200 mph.
source (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/track?trackId=21&seriesId=168)
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Shows how much I know. They go in circles, except on road courses and the first guy done wins. Any more detail and I need google
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What is with this 'turn 1', 'turn 2' , 'turn 3' and 'turn 4' I keep hearing?
The only oval type coarse that has 4 turns is Indy.
My 7 year old nephew was watching the race at Martinsville with me on Sunday and asked me if the announcers failed math as he could only see 2 turns.
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Ok, try and follow.
What you see as a curve is actually 2 turns. The car is setup for the entry into the curve (turn 1) and then is setup for the exit (turn 2). Both of the actions typically are the opposite of each other (slow down, turn wheel into turn, then accellerate, turn wheel out of turn). Both actions require completely opposite inputs. Thusly, what looks like a turn is actually 2 seperate series of action. Comprende?
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So if that is so, then on some road coarses they need to add some turns when announcing.
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So if that is so, then on some road coarses they need to add some turns when announcing.
The sharper curves of the road course mean that the driver only makes major changes to the degree of turning the car is doin once for that curve, meaning he only makes 1 turn.
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What is with this 'turn 1', 'turn 2' , 'turn 3' and 'turn 4' I keep hearing?
The only oval type coarse that has 4 turns is Indy.
My 7 year old nephew was watching the race at Martinsville with me on Sunday and asked me if the announcers failed math as he could only see 2 turns.
Cute kid :)
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Or, you could go the other way with F1; Look! Someone made a pass!
Look! Yet another safety car episode just for the TV-advertisement.
(http://warezhouze.1g.fi/Here/pics/eu_vs_usa.jpg)
:rofl
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Ok, try and follow.
What you see as a curve is actually 2 turns. The car is setup for the entry into the curve (turn 1) and then is setup for the exit (turn 2). Both of the actions typically are the opposite of each other (slow down, turn wheel into turn, then accellerate, turn wheel out of turn). Both actions require completely opposite inputs. Thusly, what looks like a turn is actually 2 seperate series of action. Comprende?
So unless I signal twice whern making a left turn, I could get a ticket?
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Look! Yet another safety car episode just for the TV-advertisement.
You forgot the part where the Formula One cars explode into a mist of carbon fibre when they look at the wall funny, while the NASCAR rides play bumper cars for 500 miles. :)
2 completely different types of racing, and both are entertaining. Formula One is breathtaking performance. NASCAR is a good-ole-boy fist fight with cars... there's just no fair comparison to make between them.
edit: IRL has completely & horribly sucked since Mr. 500's turbine cars we banned. That guy is awesome.
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You forgot the part where the Formula One cars explode into a mist of carbon fibre when they look at the wall funny, while the NASCAR rides play bumper cars for 500 miles. :)
2 completely different types of racing, and both are entertaining. Formula One is breathtaking performance. NASCAR is a good-ole-boy fist fight with cars... there's just no fair comparison to make between them.
edit: IRL has completely & horribly sucked since Mr. 500's turbine cars we banned. That guy is awesome.
Well said
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You forgot the part where the Formula One cars explode into a mist of carbon fibre when they look at the wall funny, while the NASCAR rides play bumper cars for 500 miles. :)
2 completely different types of racing, and both are entertaining. Formula One is breathtaking performance. NASCAR is a good-ole-boy fist fight with cars... there's just no fair comparison to make between them.
Why were you then unfair in your post?
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I will be there in June for the Indy Car race....fast taxi cabs don't do much for me.
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Why were you then unfair in your post?
What part is unfair? Formula One cars exploding into carbon fiber? It's what they do when they get bumped. That doesn't change the fact they're far more impressive on a track than a NASCAR. NASCAR is fun in its own way. Big, heavy, lots of steel, V-8s that make less power than Supras I've driven, but much more aggressive driving thanks to the closed wheels.
IRL is neither of those. It's roundy-rounds in cars that can't push on each other. While I still watch the Daytona 500 each year, the league deserves contempt. They've done more to neuter and stifle innovation than any other series. If the other guys can't keep up, they pressure the promoter, and your tech gets banned. They did it to AWD, side-by-side configurations, and turbines, all of which were faster, but safer cars. Such a shame.
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I think labeling turns 1-2,3-4,has more to do with letting people know where the action is occurring when it's being described on TV and radio and where your seats are located when purchasing them then it does with being truly accurate as to the actual amount of turns.
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Most likely Sox but do you ever hear 'coming out of turn 1' and 'going into turn 2' on an oval track?
All I can remember hearing is 'into turn 1' and 'out of turn 2'.
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Most likely Sox but do you ever hear 'coming out of turn 1' and 'going into turn 2' on an oval track?
All I can remember hearing is 'into turn 1' and 'out of turn 2'.
I've never really thought about it.
I do know one thing for sure.My Brickyard 400 tickets are indeed,in turn 4. :)
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The Brickyard has 4 turns as it is rectangular.
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What part is unfair?
You said it was unfair to compare them, yet you compared them in that same post.
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You said it was unfair to compare them, yet you compared them in that same post.
I went to public school :(
Point is you can't compare them head to head, which is what people like to do. It's two entirely different products. Different standards, different tracks, different regulations. The only thing related is the fact they're on wheels and a competition.
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I went to public school :(
Point is you can't compare them head to head, which is what people like to do. It's two entirely different products. Different standards, different tracks, different regulations. The only thing related is the fact they're on wheels and a competition.
Indy cars have unfendered or open wheels: NASCAR's wheels are covered with fenders.
There. A head to head comparison.
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Indy cars have unfendered or open wheels: NASCAR's wheels are covered with fenders.
There. A head to head comparison.
Happy now? Made your day?
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lol Houston Grand Prix race won't happen this year because some frenchies bought out the race.
Grand Prix of Houston Cancelled for 2008
The Grand Prix of Houston announced today that the 2008 event, originally scheduled for April 25-27 at Reliant Park, has been cancelled. Grand Prix officials made the determination that after the unexpected unification of the Champ Car World Series and Indy Racing League and the resulting exclusion of Houston from the schedule, it was not possible to stage the event in 2008. However, Grand Prix officials are already in discussions about the possibility of holding the Grand Prix of Houston in 2009 with the American Le Mans Series and Indy Racing League.
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Happy now? Made your day?
Maybe. I compared apples to oranges (which is relatively easy thing to do) a few months ago, so this was duck soup. (which I can compare to dirigible airships if you wish)
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Maybe. I compared apples to oranges (which is relatively easy thing to do) a few months ago, so this was duck soup. (which I can compare to dirigible airships if you wish)
mmm new thread for odd comparisons please. I'd like to see duck soup vs airships.
not even kidding.
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I will be across from the nationwide (busch ) garage entrance, just across from the road in the infeild, if i can get my driver lined out in time if not , for sure in the fall
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That would be incorrect ye of little knowledge. That is top race speed (overall average start to finish) and lap speed (average). They reach top speed of over 200mph going into turns 1 and 3. TMS is one of the fastest tracks on the circuit. They even considered making it a restrictor plate track because of the speed the cars reached.source (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/track?trackId=21&seriesId=168)
Didn't Indy cars race there a few years back and stopped because the track was too fast? I seem to remember the drivers saying there were beginning to black out or gray out entering the turns.
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i live there i went to the race last year
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Didn't Indy cars race there a few years back and stopped because the track was too fast? I seem to remember the drivers saying there were beginning to black out or gray out entering the turns.
indy cars still race there in the summer , june i think along with the truck race.
when that happened they had to change the depth of the entrances into the corners the drivers were graying as they went into the turns from pos. g's during the transition :aok
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Didn't Indy cars race there a few years back and stopped because the track was too fast? I seem to remember the drivers saying there were beginning to black out or gray out entering the turns.
That was CART(out of business). IRL races there every year.
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I will be across from the nationwide (busch ) garage entrance, just across from the road in the infeild, if i can get my driver lined out in time if not , for sure in the fall
You're seats aren't far from ours. We are across from the infield care center at the entrance to pit road.
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Y'all have fun :)
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Bubba J on nascar:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1iMd8Pm-2EE
:lol
Fast forward to 1:05