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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: indy007 on April 02, 2008, 10:50:06 AM
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Ouch. Stopped behind another car waiting on a bus to turn into a neighborhood. I look up in the rearview and see a white blur and hear tires squealing. He hit me doing 40+. I hit the car in front of me, and careened into the ditch. The airbag sent my glasses to the rear of the SUV. My dog boucned off the windshield. Then I saw smoke, didn't know wtf it was, couldn't open my door, and went scrambling out the passenger window with the dog in tow. Just cuts & bruises for me. My dog broke his leg and has surgery tommorrow (he'll be fine thankfully. I care more about my dog than the SUV).
The guy that hit me... illegal immigrant. No license, no insurance.
He tried to run off, but the police response time was < 2 minutes. He's in jail now.
The car that I was pushed into was a rental car. The girl had been in an accident 4 days before. She was fine, and her car is fixable.
My 4Runner is totalled. You can't see the extent of the damage in the pics (camera died), but the frame is bent. The tow hitch was bent 90 degrees downwards. None of the doors will open or close without a lot of brute force. Hood is creased, fenders trashed, roof is bent, quarterpanels are bent, windshield broken, airbags deployed, frame pieces sticking out of the front valance, and god knows what engine damage.
Good news is that my insurance has both rental car & uninsured driver coverage. The 4Runner was paid off, so the settlement will be the downpayment for something new.
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Glad to hear you are ok. Don't worry, the libs will be along soon to tell you it's not the illegal immigrant's fault he didn't have insurance. It's all George Bush's fault.
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Glad to hear you are ok. Don't worry, the libs will be along soon to tell you it's not the illegal immigrant's fault he didn't have insurance. It's all George Bush's fault.
I'm not an angry person... but the guy smiled at me, said "no insurance, cops coming" and started walking off down the street. Had my dog not been there and hurt, I would've jumped on him in a hurry, assault charges be damned.
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Very glad to hear there were no major injuries. A 40 MPH impact is nothing to take lightly.
BTW I hope your dog does well.
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Funny thing is from the pictures the car with bonnet damage looks a right-off but the SUV doesn't look too bad. I was in a crash not long ago, a van smashed into front left panel of the car. The surface damage didnt look too bad but internally the tyre wouldnt move and it cost us $600 to fix. We only got the money after the guy went to court for having no insurance. Good to hear you are ok and I hope your dog makes a full recovery. :salute
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did they catch the alien?
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ah. see where you wrote that he is in jail now.
alls well that ends well.
geez.
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Your saying immigrant... this is not an immigrant.... immigrants are here legally. This guy is a federally sponsored crook. Weekend before last a friend of mine was hit on his harley. All three in the car were illigals, no insurance, no license. My friend is laid up in the hospitol and might lose a leg. The illegals are in jail. In my view the federal government is at fault.
I firmly believe that if illegals kill eachother the police should let them. As far as our government is concerned illegals do not exist here. If a crime is commited against an illegal... do not investigate it. If an illegal needs medical care... they can go over the border and get it..... they do not exist here.
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Glad to hear you are ok. Don't worry, the libs will be along soon to tell you it's not the illegal immigrant's fault he didn't have insurance. It's all George Bush's fault.
Never miss an opportunity eh?
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I note that the cops response time was less than 2 minutes. That is odd given the plethora of threads about gun control in which the cops always take forever to get there.
Your serve.
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Glad you and the dog are okay Indy.
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See Rules #4, #5
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Glad to hear you are ok.
I'd make sure that you goto all the illegal's hearings to be sure the courts hear what he said to you.
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Never miss an opportunity eh?
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I note that the cops response time was less than 2 minutes. That is odd given the plethora of threads about gun control in which the cops always take forever to get there.
Your serve.
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Very unusual response time to say the least.
It`s just facts Curvie.
Even at that ,2 minutes..................in a shooting situation can be the difference between life and death.....for many.
It`s not the police`s job to be your personal body guard.
Glad you and the dog both made it out Indy.
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I note that the cops response time was less than 2 minutes. That is odd given the plethora of threads about gun control in which the cops always take forever to get there.
Cops can be standing right there.... means nothing. It's a known fact that many cops can't shoot accurately because training and trigger time are expensive.
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Illegal immigrants also create high insurance rates, yet more welfare off the shoulders of US citizens.
Glad you're not seriously hurt. Hope your dog recovers quickly. When he does, teach him to attack illegal immigrants. :)
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Glad to hear you are ok.
I'd make sure that you goto all the illegal's hearings to be sure the courts hear what he said to you.
We shouldn't bother wasting our court systems time, or jail space with this turd. Just flush him and be done.
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Wow Indy that sucks, glad to hear you and your dog are OK....
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Your saying immigrant... this is not an immigrant.... immigrants are here legally. This guy is a federally sponsored crook. Weekend before last a friend of mine was hit on his harley. All three in the car were illigals, no insurance, no license. My friend is laid up in the hospitol and might lose a leg. The illegals are in jail. In my view the federal government is at fault.
I firmly believe that if illegals kill eachother the police should let them. As far as our government is concerned illegals do not exist here. If a crime is commited against an illegal... do not investigate it. If an illegal needs medical care... they can go over the border and get it..... they do not exist here.
I think that until the government is willing to kick their tulips out with EXTREME PREJUDICE, then the government must accept fiscal liability for all things the illegals do in America.
This is not to be paid with out of the general tax fund, but out of the politician's salaries.
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Glad to hear you are ok. Don't worry, the libs will be along soon to tell you it's not the illegal immigrant's fault he didn't have insurance. It's all George Bush's fault.
LOL Steve, funny considering it's the Neocons who oppose letting illegals have drivers' licenses. :rofl
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i am so confused, i thought a person was not allowed to drive a car unless they had a drivers license and insurance.
i can't believe people would deliberately brake the LAW. :rolleyes:
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See Rules #4, #5
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LOL Steve, funny considering it's the Neocons who oppose letting illegals have drivers' licenses. :rofl
I'm not a NeoCon and I oppose it. I oppose their very existence and demand for citizen's rights too. And I'd call myself more center than Steve.
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I never mentioned a driver's license. Try to focus so you can actually type something of relevence.
Nothing better than compassionate conservative republicans, always with the quick comeback slam OH How original :rofl :rofl
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Ouch. Stopped behind another car waiting on a bus to turn into a neighborhood. I look up in the rearview and see a white blur and hear tires squealing. He hit me doing 40+. I hit the car in front of me, and careened into the ditch. The airbag sent my glasses to the rear of the SUV. My dog boucned off the windshield. Then I saw smoke, didn't know wtf it was, couldn't open my door, and went scrambling out the passenger window with the dog in tow. Just cuts & bruises for me. My dog broke his leg and has surgery tommorrow (he'll be fine thankfully. I care more about my dog than the SUV).
The guy that hit me... illegal immigrant. No license, no insurance.
He tried to run off, but the police response time was < 2 minutes. He's in jail now.
The car that I was pushed into was a rental car. The girl had been in an accident 4 days before. She was fine, and her car is fixable.
My 4Runner is totalled. You can't see the extent of the damage in the pics (camera died), but the frame is bent. The tow hitch was bent 90 degrees downwards. None of the doors will open or close without a lot of brute force. Hood is creased, fenders trashed, roof is bent, quarterpanels are bent, windshield broken, airbags deployed, frame pieces sticking out of the front valance, and god knows what engine damage.
Good news is that my insurance has both rental car & uninsured driver coverage. The 4Runner was paid off, so the settlement will be the downpayment for something new.
I hope you are still feeling OK. Some injuries like whiplash don't always manifest themselves immediately after an accident. Be sure to see a doctor, just in case.
Just think what would have happened to that poor girl in front of you, if your car had not been there, and this alien had instead slammed into her small rental car. Now that would of been a really nasty collision. She would have been seriously hurt, no doubt. In a way, you really were a guardian angel for her protection.
That is great you have such good insurance. However, this alien still handed you a really raw deal here. Your 4Runner looks practically new, so you obviously took great care of it. They last forever too, so you would of still had many more years of service left in the vehicle. Instead, you now have to start making car payments again. Very bum deal indeed.
The most important thing, though, is that you and your dog are OK. People put down SUV's so much these days, but your vehicle obviously took this blow very well. Think of what would of happened to you if you had been driving a Prius?
The alien most likely ran because I think that most drivers in your situation would have tried to beat the %$#@% out of him.
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i am so confused, i thought a person was not allowed to drive a car unless they had a drivers license and insurance.
i can't believe people would deliberately brake the LAW. :rolleyes:
Many states don't give drivers licenses to illegal aliens, though. So if they want to drive here, they are forced to break the law.
This sort of scenario is one of the reasons that pro-immigration folks cite when pushing to give illegal aliens the right to get a driver's license.
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LOL Steve, funny considering it's the Neocons who oppose letting illegals have drivers' licenses. :rofl
So if this illegal, who is here illegally, had obtained a valid drivers licence, validating his illegality, so he could illegally obtain all that is available to him (including voting) if he were legal, which he is not - as he is here illegally, then this would not have happened.
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Thanks for the well wishes guys. The SUV is a goner. I should get 6-7k for it, and because I have smart parents that taught me well, my tier 1 credit is going to be me something new & spiffy (with good milage for once).
Now I have to plug my insurance. State Farm has been awesome. My rental is already waiting. I'm fully covered, my rate will not be going up, and they're even covering my dog's initial vet visit and tomorrow' surgery ($400 first visit, surgery will probably be 1k+). If you're in Houston, you can't go wrong with my agent. There's no way in hell they'll ever get a dime out of that guy, but their level of service has been fantastic.
...and now, I'm off to get x-rays to make sure I won't have any nasty suprises.
Totally not the day I was expecting to have.
oh, and regarding the police response time. That's actually normal for this neighborhood (my home office is in it). It's over a mile across, has a fire department, and a school. Many people like to cut through and avoid the highway traffic. There's also 4 other school zones and a massive public park surrounding it on 2 other sides. The constables love to hide around the swimming pools and nail people running stop signs (such as my last ticket about 4 years ago). They're always right around the corner... and because it's going to be fodder for a gun debate later, yes, I have pistols in this house. 2 minutes still isn't fast enough if you're in a situation where somebody needs to be shot. I'm just glad I didn't lose my cool, put the guy in a lateral-vascular restraint, and end up getting an assault charge & strip search for my efforts.
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I hope they send him to prison and when he is done there send his bellybutton back to the deepest part of whereverthehell he came from.
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So if they want to drive here, they are forced to break the law.
They are already breaking the law. The term illegal should be the first hint.
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LOL Steve, funny considering it's the Neocons who oppose letting illegals have drivers' licenses. :rofl
So they should be given licenses because they'll be driving anyway? What sort of spineless approach to a problem is that? What's the next step? Give them citizenship because they'll be crossing the border illegally no matter what we do?
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What sort of spineless approach to a problem is that?
A Paleolib one.
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Indy,
When you get a chance I'd get a copy of the collision report for your own records, even if you have to pay for it at the PD. If you were not advised at the scene the report should have the owner info on the car that hit you. Perhaps it wasn't the driver that owns it.
Secondly do not sign any release, even to your insurance company until you are sure your medical situation is over and done with. Once the chior of fat ladies sing then consider it.
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So they should be given licenses because they'll be driving anyway? What sort of spineless approach to a problem is that? What's the next step? Give them citizenship because they'll be crossing the border illegally no matter what we do?
Once you get a driver's license, you really don't need to get citizenship.
With a driver's license you can drive a car, and thus be able to easily go to work. With it and your credentials from your Mexican consulate, you can then obtain a bank account and credit cards. Heck, my bank had to hire a Spanish speaking clerk, there are so many here where I live. I asked them if people had to be citizen to get a bank account, and they said no. They only need to have valid ID, and the driver's license gives them that requirement.
About the only thing you cannot do is vote. But that is why the Democrats want citizenship for all that are here. They see this as a great opportunity to register huge numbers of new Democrats.
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So they should be given licenses because they'll be driving anyway? What sort of spineless approach to a problem is that? What's the next step? Give them citizenship because they'll be crossing the border illegally no matter what we do?
It depends upon how you approach problems, Neubob- if you believe issuing a decree that all illegals be forbidden to have drivers' licenses (and you need a license to have insurance) then what you'll get is alot of illegals driving cars without insurance. It seems ironic to take that approach since so many illegals have been here, and been driving, for years, but this is what voters like you, and Steve, and many others want, and is a predictable outcome.
Sheeesh guys, there's no need to get all mad at me for pointing out the obvious.
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Indy,
When you get a chance I'd get a copy of the collision report for your own records, even if you have to pay for it at the PD. If you were not advised at the scene the report should have the owner info on the car that hit you. Perhaps it wasn't the driver that owns it.
Secondly do not sign any release, even to your insurance company until you are sure your medical situation is over and done with. Once the chior of fat ladies sing then consider it.
Many illegals buy cheap cars for cash from private parties, however. And then they simply fail to register them.
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Thank God your Ok. That looked pretty nasty. This is the freaking problem with illegals. I dont mind Immigrants at all, but come in the proper way?
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It depends upon how you approach problems, Neubob- if you believe issuing a decree that all illegals be forbidden to have drivers' licenses (and you need a license to have insurance) then what you'll get is alot of illegals driving cars without insurance. It seems ironic to take that approach since so many illegals have been here, and been driving, for years, but this is what voters like you, and Steve, and many others want, and is a predictable outcome.
Sheeesh guys, there's no need to get all mad at me for pointing out the obvious.
My approach is to take these people and to put them into a perpetual cycle of criminality. The cycle will only end with deportation, long term incarceration and destitution for all their dependents. Your approach is to give in and go with the flow. Like I said, what's the next step? Citizenship upon entry? How about pre-emptive welfare just in case the manual labor they do doesn't cover the expenses stemming from their mold-like reproductive tendencies? Clearly we should all be speaking spanish because it's just too much to expect them to learn english.
Where does it end, and how much privilege are you going to award them simply because you don't have the heart to treat them like they should be treated?
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It depends upon how you approach problems, Neubob- if you believe issuing a decree that all illegals be forbidden to have drivers' licenses (and you need a license to have insurance) then what you'll get is alot of illegals driving cars without insurance. It seems ironic to take that approach since so many illegals have been here, and been driving, for years, but this is what voters like you, and Steve, and many others want, and is a predictable outcome.
Sheeesh guys, there's no need to get all mad at me for pointing out the obvious.
What I want, is for every last illegal top be deported and our borders protected so they cannot come back.
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airhead...
I believe that Arizona has proven that if you don't pander to them... if you make it difficult for them to get cars or a place to live or a job...
That they will go back home all on there own. It seems cruel and stupid and selfish to continue to give them a tiny little bone here or there so that you can have slave labor without the stigma.
lazs
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Glad you were able to walk away and that your dog will be ok. Maverick's advice about the medical release is good. My wife was rear ended at about the same speed as you nine years ago and she thought she was ok but started suffering shoulder and neck problems soon after and has had problems ever since. They will likely never go away. Make sure.
Also glad that criminal was caught before he got away. It could have ended very differently.
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What I want, is for every last illegal top be deported and our borders protected so they cannot come back.
And denying them drivers licenses will help accomplish this? Or will denying illegals licenses create a situation where we have more uninsured motorists on the road?
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airhead.. I can't believe that you are so insensitve and cruel.
You know that the best way to take a bandage off it quickly.. not slowly and painfully. simply deny the illegals any opportunity or services here and they will go away.
lazs
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Doctors said I'm fine. Quick visit. If I didn't work out frequently, I'd be in worse shape. He is making me withdraw from a grappling tournament next weekend and training for a month though. I geuss I should've mentioned that I'm moving into a new place Friday and hauling heavy furniture... but nothing can stop that at this point.
Such a crazy week for me.
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And denying them drivers licenses will help accomplish this? Or will denying illegals licenses create a situation where we have more uninsured motorists on the road?
The idea is that you do not reward illegal behavior.
If you gave bank robbers a stipend of 5000 per heist, I would think that perhaps bank robbery would be more widespread.
If being here illegally was uber difficult, being here illegally would not be as common.
Good to here you are OK indy. Sorry about the move.
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airhead.. I can't believe that you are so insensitve and cruel.
You know that the best way to take a bandage off it quickly.. not slowly and painfully. simply deny the illegals any opportunity or services here and they will go away.
lazs
lazs, we can't just wish them all away- it doesn't work like that. And even if we could just wish them all away, do you think that would make all our lives better, or worse?
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And denying them drivers licenses will help accomplish this? Or will denying illegals licenses create a situation where we have more uninsured motorists on the road?
Giving them licenses mean they will alll suddenly get insurance? You can get insurance in the US with a mexican DL. Why don't they have insurance now?
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lazs, we can't just wish them all away- it doesn't work like that. And even if we could just wish them all away, do you think that would make all our lives better, or worse?
Had we wished them away yesterday, today would definately be better for me.
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lazs, we can't just wish them all away- it doesn't work like that. And even if we could just wish them all away, do you think that would make all our lives better, or worse?
Let's assume that the burden of proof is on the party that is proposing to keep the questionable element around....So why don't you just unload that question now and tell us all how it would make our lives worse.
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lazs, we can't just wish them all away- it doesn't work like that. And even if we could just wish them all away, do you think that would make all our lives better, or worse?
Yes, yes we can wish them all away. It's really simple. You start catching them, then dropping them off in the middle of the Mexican desert right at the border. Tell them that if they take one step towards America while still in the range of the guns they will be shot.
Until you've caught them all, you then stop all the money flowing from illegal aliens in america to their home country. Not only will the purpose of coming to america to send money back become useless, but America will keep billions more which it can do with what it pleases. Hell, we can use this money to kick their tulips off.
Hell, I like that! Using their own money to deport them at little cost to us!
SIMPLE.
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Had we wished them away yesterday, today would definately be better for me.
sorry Indy, but I'm glad you're OK. Just remember that it takes whiplash symptoms up to a week to appear- which by strange coincidence is how long it takes accident attorneys to solicit you.
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Yes, yes we can wish them all away. It's really simple. You start catching them, then dropping them off in the middle of the Mexican desert right at the border. Tell them that if they take one step towards America while still in the range of the guns they will be shot.
Until you've caught them all, you then stop all the money flowing from illegal aliens in america to their home country. Not only will the purpose of coming to america to send money back become useless, but America will keep billions more which it can do with what it pleases.
SIMPLE.
Works for me.
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sorry Indy, but I'm glad you're OK. Just remember that it takes whiplash symptoms up to a week to appear- which by strange coincidence is how long it takes accident attorneys to solicit you.
It's all good. I'm not looking forward to tommorrow though.
and I think it's legal to beat up ambulance chasers here. this is Texas afterall...
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Hope you don't suffer later and wishing you and your dog speedy recoveries.
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If it helps, look at it the way the illegal alien apologists look at it.
Over your lifetime, you've saved thousands of dollars on food because illegals do agricultural labor at or below minimum wage, which cuts food prices by over 50% by some estimates. So your uninsured motorist insurance plus deductable was paid for over your lifetime by the reduced food prices you've paid.
I call BS since my Dad picked fruit in Calif as a young adult working his way through college and he was happy to get the work, but it might make YOU feel better :(
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Giving them licenses mean they will alll suddenly get insurance? You can get insurance in the US with a mexican DL. Why don't they have insurance now?
*crickets*
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Sorry as hell to hear that your dog broke his leg, Indy...Glad you seem to be ok, though. It's a shame about your 4-runner, as well. :(
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Hope your dog recovers quickly.
My first wreck was ramming a fence-hopping burrito muncher as he decided to turn left in Tucsons suicide lanes. Cracked my fiberglass on my Dodge Shadow totaled his Toyota. He had false insurance papers. After getting the run around from my insurance company I decided to just live with cracked fiberglass.
I went into court to testify in his trial. Met with the Jr DA or whoever prosecutes traffic stuff. He said the guy was looking at a month and a big fine. We went in, Judge drops the case because someone checked civil and not criminal on the papers they sent him :mad: he walked.
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Holy cow! Glad you and your dog are alright, Indy that's some impact.
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It depends upon how you approach problems, Neubob- if you believe issuing a decree that all illegals be forbidden to have drivers' licenses (and you need a license to have insurance) then what you'll get is alot of illegals driving cars without insurance. It seems ironic to take that approach since so many illegals have been here, and been driving, for years, but this is what voters like you, and Steve, and many others want, and is a predictable outcome.
Sheeesh guys, there's no need to get all mad at me for pointing out the obvious.
having a drivers license is not going to make them get insurance, nor are they going to stop driving because they dont have one. by giving them drivers licenses we are just saying, ok fine, you wont abide by our laws but you want to open a bank account? sure why not!
if a citizen had done what this guy did he would be in jail for attempted hit and run!yet what will happen to this guy? he gets to go home? you think he will not try to come back? if he had a license and got deported ,do you think that then he might stop trying to come here? and after a few hundred thousand return to the us after being deported and losing there licenses what kind of i.d. will we give them so they can drive? i was driving long before i had a license and i am pretty sure it is not a prerequisite! we all have something to lose if we break the law, thats why the law works! illegals dont mind the law because there is little for them to fear!
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airhead.. you certainly can't "wish them away" that is the basis for every "amnesty" plan I have seen tho. they just vanish.. I mean.. if 12 million are illegals are now legal then.. poof.. just like magic.. 12 million illegals go away!
my idea has nothing to do with magic or wishful thinking. It is more like simply looking at the crazy cat woman who puts out milk.. now.. she ends up with hundreds of cats.. by your reasoning.. there is no solution to this unsolvable problem.. no way to get rid of all the cats in the neighborhood.. you can't build fences.. the cats will climb over em.
I am saying.. quit putting out saucers of milk and they will go away on their own. New ones will not see any point in coming around....The ones left will be easy to trap and catch.
Will we be better off? Of course we will.. a staunch union guy like you should be able to look at construction industry and see just what and why it has become a minimum wage or lower trade when before.. it was a great place for a blue collar guy to make a good living.
lazs
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What I want, is for every last illegal top be deported and our borders protected so they cannot come back.
My plan, once I'm elected president, is to build a deportation center in Antarctica, directly beneath the hole in the ozone. No fences. Any person being processed is free to walk away at anytime. With our governmental efficiency is should only take 24 months to get them to their country of origin...via kayak.
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Indy, glad to hear you are OK and I hope your dog recovers soon.
The real crime here is now you get to deal with all the hassels of the insurance paperwork, rental car, vet bills and time/money lost. The illegal gets a vacation, with three hot meals, a roof over his head, and a collage education to become a real criminal. When he gets out, he'll disapear and do it again to somebody else who may not get to be as lucky as you......only in the USA!
Just think, if you had physicaly restrained the guy, YOU would have been in the wrong, and you would have gone to jail, so backwards it just blows my mind.
If you were so inclined, one can look for the registed owner of the car that hit you, they can be held responsable for your losses.
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just do what Arizona did, any business that hires a illegal loses their business license. The illegals are leaving Arizona because there are no jobs for them.
The govt of Mexico is complaining that unemployed mexicans are flooding back into Mexico.
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just do what Arizona did, any business that hires a illegal loses their business license. The illegals are leaving Arizona because there are no jobs for them.
Something that should have been done a lot long ago. If it had, we probably wouldn't have the problems we have now.
ack-ack
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It can still be done. Stop taking such a defeatist attitude.
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It can still be done. Stop taking such a defeatist attitude.
Please, point out the defeatist tone in my post. Please read and ask someone that knows basic reading comprehension to explain it to you.
All my posts states if we had taken these actions and enforce our immigration laws by going after those that employ them long ago, we would most likely not face the problems we have now. Never do I indicate that it's too little too late and it won't help. On the contrary, Arizona is an example that if you go after those that employ illegal aliens, it will do far more to curb the problem than having armed vigilantes at the border, like a lot of you have expressed.
Sheesh...no wonder why they say our American education system is in the dumps.
ack-ack
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My brothers girlfriend was hit by an illegal immigrant, and a month before that an illegal immigrant hit her mom...
something has to be done about this...
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Sorry, I got you confused with someone else.
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My brothers girlfriend was hit by an illegal immigrant, and a month before that an illegal immigrant hit her mom...
something has to be done about this...
what are the odds of that
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just do what Arizona did, any business that hires a illegal loses their business license. The illegals are leaving Arizona because there are no jobs for them.
The govt of Mexico is complaining that unemployed mexicans are flooding back into Mexico.
Amen, brother!
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I blame it on the people hiring them. We all know that government isn't doing anything about it, so why don't business owners take it upon themselves to not hire illegals?
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what are the odds of that
Probably pretty good...why should an illegal take the time to learn what the different colored lights mean if he can't get a license anyway?
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Sorry, I got you confused with someone else.
I apologize for the tone of my previous post <S>
ack-ack
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Don't worry about it.
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Giving them licenses mean they will alll suddenly get insurance? You can get insurance in the US with a mexican DL. Why don't they have insurance now?
Well, airhead?
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Well, airhead?
I don't know, Steve- maybe they lost their driving priveledges in Mexico? I didn't even know you needed a license there.
You can't expect me to know everything. :)
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I don't know, Steve- maybe they lost their driving priveledges in Mexico?
Hehehe could be. If so, we probably wouldn't want to give them driving priviledges here eh?
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twenty fo.. I actually agree with you on this.. at least partly.
It is indeed the fault of the employers. They are the real culprits. I do not blame anyone for trying to feed a starving family even if it means breaking some law.. especially a law that seems to be ignored by just about everyone.
I have said for years now that the way to solve the problem is to put the employers in jail.. a mandatory 6 months sentence in prison along with a fine and.. any contractor who was hurt by this unfair labor practice should be able to sue.
The fly in the ointment is... You don't jail an employer who hires illegals that have documentation... even fake.
The government is to blame here.
If I buy a handgun... within hours.. many many things are known about me.. including my citizenship status and criminal record and many other things. a fake ID will never work.
This could easily be done for any job. no national id.. just a background check like for firearms... answer in hours "no, Jesus's SS number is on the fraud list and is being used by 4,900 other people.. do not hire"
If a worker gets a clean bill of health on the background check.. the employer is free to hire him and even if it is proved later that he is an illegal.. no crime by the employer.
If.. the check comes back negative or the employer is found to be manipulating the check.. then.. the mandatory jail time and fines etc come into play.
Anyone have a problem with that?
lazs
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I don't know, Steve- maybe they lost their driving priveledges in Mexico? I didn't even know you needed a license there.
You can't expect me to know everything. :)
You most definitely need a license to drive in Mexico. Mexicans also need Mexican insurance to drive there. There is a big difference in Mexican insurance and US insurance that's why you need to purchase a Mexican insurance policy to drive there as US posilcies won't cover you past the 17 Km point IIRC. Few, if any, Mexican policies provide coverage in the US as well.
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I went and asked some police officers...
Just so people know... it's perfectly legal to restrain the guy fleeing the scene (ex: induce unconciousness with a choke.. clock, cross-collar, rear naked, triangle). It's not legal to beat him up while doing it, so you can't mount him and start raining punches. It has to be a selective use of force.. but you can use force.
I wish I had known that at the time. Even with the cops being that fast... I still coulda got to choke the guy. :furious
I failed my coach & training partners. :(
...And my pooch is healing up fine. He's got himself in a splint for 4 more weeks, more x-rays, but that should be it. Less damage than the vet expected, and unlikely he'll need surgery to fuse the joint.
and I have survived the week of hell. Business trip, car totalled, emergency vet trip, moved into a new apartment, hauled heavy furniture, got a new HDTV, test drove 7 new cars, and the only damage left on me personally is the scabs from where the seat frame took skin off my back. I feel like superman right now.
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and I have survived the week of hell. Business trip, car totalled, emergency vet trip, moved into a new apartment, hauled heavy furniture, got a new HDTV, test drove 7 new cars, and the only damage left on me personally is the scabs from where the seat frame took skin off my back. I feel like superman right now.
Glad you made it through the week. :)