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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DrDea on April 02, 2008, 05:38:45 PM
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My bike ran out of gas on the reserve.We've all done it.Dont lie. I was 100 yds from home so I just pushed it home.Went to my roomates shed and grabbed the gas can.Her ex had a weed wacker.Took it with him but left the gas oil mix can there. Now I know what your thinking and your right.I put the mixed in.Well Ive drained the tank.Unhooked the gasline all the way to the gas filter,on the lower end of the bike and tried useing starter fluid.Heres my question.How badly is this gonna gun the carbs? Its a 1100 "99" Shadow Ace Tourer with the 1100VTC engine.It fires with the ether,but it wont stay running.An I better off getting someone to tow it and just have it in gear and on and try to work the rest of the gas out?? :furious :furious
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Should have drained the carb before trying to start it. Best thing you can do is clean the plugs till it fires/starts or take it to a mechanic. Gas oil mix really shouldn't shut down your bike but if you have injectors instead of a carb you might be screwed. I'd say more than likely your plugs are fouled, just take them out and wire brush them off. You might have to do that a couple times till the oil gets burnt out of the system. I did that with an old 72 honda i had and all it did was keep fouling the plugs. Would not surprise me that if you pull a plug you'll find it gunked up with oil depending on the mix he had in the gas can.
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You fouled the plugs. Must have been a real rich mixture for any mixed boat gas we had left (5-10gal) after a race would out in the tow vehicle and never had a problem.
Running gas through should clean out the carbs.
Can always try some of that stuff you put in the tank when putting it away for the winter.
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They were so gummed I replaced em.
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Cant get to the bowl drains without taking the tank off so I guess I just have to keep hitting it with the starting fluid till it clears up.A royal pain in the arse.
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Cant get to the bowl drains without taking the tank off so I guess I just have to keep hitting it with the starting fluid till it clears up.A royal pain in the arse.
Dont get to friendly with the starting fluid good way to burn a piston down
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Yea and melt a starter too.Im going sparingly with it.just a few short squirts.at a time.
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I put 17 miles on my bike today; didn't burn a drop of gas (not that there's anything wrong with that).
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Yea thats what scares me.With my milage I got about 52 miles of running to clear the pipes. :furious
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This really shouldn`t be that big of a problem.
Even though the gas is mixed with oil it still will ignite quite well.
A kitchen match works well. The oil will have a tendency to keep the flame going long enough for the plastic to start burning. From there on it`s all down hill and your problem should clear up nicely.
If that doesn`t work, you can always have faith in the fact that it is fastly approaching prime run time.
There will always be one somewhere who is looking for one of these for their Honda bash.
Just take your time, ask around and in the mean time keep it covered with a tarp to avoid embarrassment.
:devil
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That's Odd Dre.
IIRC you should be able to reach the drain valves with a loooong 1/4"flat blade screwdriver?
In any case taking the tank off should be a 2 minute job.
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This really shouldn`t be that big of a problem.
Even though the gas is mixed with oil it still will ignite quite well.
A kitchen match works well. The oil will have a tendency to keep the flame going long enough for the plastic to start burning. From there on it`s all down hill and your problem should clear up nicely.
If that doesn`t work, you can always have faith in the fact that it is fastly approaching prime run time.
There will always be one somewhere who is looking for one of these for their Honda bash.
Just take your time, ask around and in the mean time keep it covered with a tarp to avoid embarrassment.
:devil
Oh I dont know.almost 10 years and never had a mechanical problem with it.I think I'll keep er. :aok
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A couple of things here:
#1 Have you put fresh gas in the tank, or are you still trying to make it run on old pre-mix?
If you haven't done it yet fill the tank with fresh gas. (gas can go bad sitting in a gas can very quickly, lots of variables though).
#2 Get away from that starting fluid, you can "prime" the engine with gas if you really need to. I use a small baseter (like for cooking) and as little gas as possable, but you shouldn't need to do this to get the bike running.
#3 Check the fuel filter (if you haven't already), The gas can might have had a large quantity of crap in it, which now has a new home in your motorcycles fuel tank. Most bikes have a filter at the fuel petcock.
Hope this helps
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Another thing you may want to consider is clean your, carb, fuel line, and tank with IPA. It will remove
the oil residue and it evaporates after a short period of time.
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Oh I dont know.almost 10 years and never had a mechanical problem with it.I think I'll keep er. :aok
Well OK then. I tried.
My condolences.
:D
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Well OK then. I tried.
My condolences.
:D
Bah. I scoff at you :lol
I drained the tank and the lines to the fuel filter.Im gonna drain it from the carb down to the fuel filter next and try to drain the carb bowls.The tank has fresh premi in it now so it should straighten up once the bowls are flushed.Nit wit of a thing to do.Sheesh.
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That's Odd Dre.
IIRC you should be able to reach the drain valves with a loooong 1/4"flat blade screwdriver?
In any case taking the tank off should be a 2 minute job.
Dead on.They were easily accessed.Thanks for the tip.Should fire right up once I clean that puddle of gas up under it from the draining of the lines.Might give Jackal1 a thrill to hear it backfired and torched. :rofl
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Might give Jackal1 a thrill to hear it backfired and torched. :rofl
:aok :rofl
Proud you got her up and running. :)
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Well......the bike was getting spark...gas was moving and it just wasnt making it to the heads.Tore the carb out to see if it was dirty....34,000 miles on it,and they were ok.Turns out the fuel pump is bad.Just took several hours nailing down the problem.It will run now on a full tank since I jury rigged the fuel line,Jackle may get his wish yet :lol,but I have to keep it topped off till I get a fuel pump.Im betting it costs around 35 thousand for one of them. :furious
But she lives again and after going on 10 years I can deal with one mech problem.
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Yea and melt a starter too.Im going sparingly with it.just a few short squirts.at a time.
Starter?? wimp :eek:
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Starter?? wimp :eek:
Hehe. It took me a couple of weeks to figure out what that button on the right handlebar was for and why it made a rumbling sound when I pressed it when I bought my Deuce.
After getting it figured out , my hyperextended kickstart knees have red flashing LEDs that read "Thank you" every time I press it now. :lol
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Wish I had a kick on this thing.If the battery dies ya always got a back up.
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I have a 98' shadow "aero" the only problem I ave ever had with her was I had to replace the stator. If you ever have to do this pm me or email me cause when I did it I had all kinds of ppl tell me how EASY it was....NOT :furious
Just a FYI its a "wet" stator so ya gotta drain your oil first.....found this out the hard way :O
once I got past this little tidbit it actually was pretty easy with the only complication being the neutral light wire running thru the area and having to get it and the boot it sits in to reseat correctly