Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Widewing on April 03, 2008, 05:22:18 PM
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Thank you very much for addressing this. I'm sure that I'm speaking for everyone when I say that HTC once again shows why they are the best in the business.
:salute
My regards,
Widewing
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I love AHII, I would be crushed if it got taken away from me. I would have to play FIGHTER ACE 3 noooooooooooo!!!!11!111!
P.S. I'm a 39 dweeb
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WW did you have a chance to compare the FM-2 flaps ?
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...and they have increased the 37mm lethality. BOOM. ;)
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HTC staff i love you. :salute
D-2 D-2 D-2!!
Make the 37mm's blow up after 3 seconds (like they did in Real life), do this and ill highly consider having a child in your name.
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I must admit, of all the updates, the one that I am looking forward to the most is
Bases no longer continue to flash when an attacking player is disconnected
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HTC staff i love you. :salute
D-2 D-2 D-2!!
Make the 37mm's blow up after 3 seconds (like they did in Real life), do this and ill highly consider having a child in your name.
:huh :huh :huh
Source?
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WW did you have a chance to compare the FM-2 flaps ?
I did... Didn't seem to have excessive drag with full flaps. It did require a slightly greater dive angle than the P-40, and roughly the same as the P-39Q. However, the FM-2 has a much greater flat plate area, so that would be expected in a shallow power-off dive.
Here's the comparison data.
Drag Coefficient:
P-39: .0217
P-40: .0242
FM-2: .0253
Let's look at wing area:
P-39: 213.2 sq/ft
P-49: 236.0 sq/ft
FM-2: 260.0 sq/ft
Let's look at flat plate area:
P-39: 4.63 sq/ft
P-40: 5.71 sq/ft
FM-2: 6.58 sq/ft
Let's examine the flaps of the two fighters. I'll provide flap area and full down angle. All use simple split flaps.
P-39: 26.2 sq/ft @ 43 degrees
P-40: 33.1 sq/ft @ 45 degrees
FM-2: 27.7 sq/ft @ 43 degrees
My regards,
Widewing
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Make the 37mm's blow up after 3 seconds (like they did in Real life), do this and ill highly consider having a child in your name.
The Oldsmobile cannon might have been a POS because it frequently jammed but I don't think blowing up was a common problem, if one at all.
ack-ack
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I had an oldsmobile that once blew up, but it wasn't a cannon.
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LOL! :rofl
No guys, you mis understand me.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,232233.0.html
That has alot of the info, but the link there also shows where i got the data so.
Not the gun blowing up, the round has a fuse when the tracer reaches the end of the burnout phase, it shoots a object into a second detonation cap, and the round blows up, not..the gun. :aok
Sorry for the confusion & highjack, as i too am woundering what these flap changes are.
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The P-39 flaps will be adjusted in the next patch?
Also, what caused them to notice that the flaps needed to be tweaked (i.e., what did they look at to determine that)?
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Maybe
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231540.0.html
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Thank moot, exactly what i needed. :salute
"lameman's'term"
"The 39's flaps create to much drag and not enough lift" got'cha.
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The P-39 flaps will be adjusted in the next patch?
Also, what caused them to notice that the flaps needed to be tweaked (i.e., what did they look at to determine that)?
Extensive flight testing revealed that the flaps generated little lift and a tremendous amount of drag. When compared to the very similar flaps of the P-40 (using the same basic powerplant), the drag properties were obviously much greater in the P-39 as well as significantly less lift.
My regards,
Widewing
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Sounds good.
So is the change to be in the next patch?
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Sounds good.
So is the change to be in the next patch?
See here:
Patch news (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,232236.0.html)
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Thanks, Krusty.
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Well, I did a quick test of the P-39Q offline and found that Pyro's adjustments result in a vast improvement. Flap drag is now roughly the same as the P-40E, perhaps even a bit less.
A quick full flap turn radius test got me 466 feet vs 526 feet prior to the update. Another big improvement is in turn rate, which jumped from 17.2 dps to 18.2 dps. This puts in company with the La-5FN and 109G-2 in terms of radius, but inferior in turn rate.. That's significant in that in a prolonged circle fight, it will lose ground and equality after a few 360 turns.
Nonetheless, flaps use is at least now a real option.
Nice job Pyro, very much appreciated. :salute
My regards,
Widewing
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Big time! :salute :salute
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Widewing,
Thanks for the testing. I really need to make a comprehensive revision through all the planes to flush out some inconsistencies.
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check the A-20 Pyro....the airplane behaves as if it has no weight.
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check the A-20 Pyro....the airplane behaves as if it has no weight.
That's not how it feels to me.
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just out of curiosity, Widewing......have you done any testing of the A20 with emphasis on its vertical performance and freakishly nimble controls?
Way too many times Ive encountered these things at altitude and had to scrap for my virtual life.....I prefer to fight spitfires
and FM2s over this thing. It hangs on a prop like it was Ki43 VSTOL or something. Maybe its just me but I have heard other well established
veteran players make similar comments.
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The A-20 is still modeled as it was in Aces High I, though right?
The only thing that changed for the A-20 in this game was the introduction of the new airflow code, so the plane still needs to be put back into AH2 standards.
I'm hoping the Corsair's flaps can be checked... I find it annoying to fly a plane if it happens to be turning incorrectly. Something like that needs to be fixed whether for the better or for the worse. I know there are tonnes of threads but I'd appreciate it being checked just to know for sure.