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Title: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: JBA on April 07, 2008, 11:49:40 AM
 :lolhttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?ref=politics (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?ref=politics)

.....last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

....Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.

“We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story,” said Rick Castrop, chief executive officer of the O’Bleness Health System.

.......Indeed, saying that the story haunted her, Mrs. Clinton repeatedly offered it as a dire example of a broken health care system. At one March rally in Wyoming, for instance, she referred to Ms. Bachtel, a 35-year-old who managed a Pizza Hut, as a young, uninsured minimum-wage worker, saying, “It hurts me that in our country, as rich and good of a country as we are, this young woman and her baby died because she couldn’t come up with $100 to see the doctor.”


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You just have to laugh of cry if you a Hillbillary supporter.
Now I'll wait for the Kool-Aid comments, and the your picking on her because she has breast, o I mean she's married to bill, o I mean she's a a a a Liar. Ya that’s it.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: indy007 on April 07, 2008, 12:01:20 PM
You don't even have to call the hospital. You know the story is BS when she said a manager is making minimum wage.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: midnight Target on April 07, 2008, 12:03:51 PM
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A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

The sheriff’s deputy, Bryan Holman, had played host to Mrs. Clinton in his home before the Ohio primary. Deputy Holman said in a telephone interview that a conversation about health care led him to relate the story of Ms. Bachtel. He never mentioned the name of the hospital that supposedly turned her away because he did not know it, he said.


You make it sound like she just makes this stuff up. The Sherrif's deputy told her the story and she repeated it. She never used the woman's name in the story, nor did she ever mention the hospital's name.

Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2008, 12:13:27 PM
Even a noob researcher could reasonably determine the truth in this ~ yet she takes a scrap of info like that & rolls with it?  Yeah.... right.... doubt it.

Her excuse makes even a greater reason to dislike her ~ blame-shifting, excuse-making putz...
[whiney voice] "but, but, but, someone told me that..." [/whiney voice]
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Hornet33 on April 07, 2008, 12:20:22 PM
You make it sound like she just makes this stuff up. The Sherrif's deputy told her the story and she repeated it. She never used the woman's name in the story, nor did she ever mention the hospital's name.



Kinda like Bush told everyone there was intel saying that Iraq had WMD's. Turned out to be false but Bush is to blame for lying right?? Can't have it both way's MT. A lie is still a lie.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Shuffler on April 07, 2008, 12:22:51 PM
cut her some slack..... maybe she was under intense sniper fire when she received this info.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Eagler on April 07, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
hillary who?

lol lol lol
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: midnight Target on April 07, 2008, 12:46:42 PM
Even a noob researcher could reasonably determine the truth in this ~ yet she takes a scrap of info like that & rolls with it?  Yeah.... right.... doubt it.

Her excuse makes even a greater reason to dislike her ~ blame-shifting, excuse-making putz...
[whiney voice] "but, but, but, someone told me that..." [/whiney voice]

The guy who told her the story said he told her the story, and he is a sherrif in the area... sheesh.

Any excuse to bash Hillary.

Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Jackal1 on April 07, 2008, 12:51:08 PM
cut her some slack..... maybe she was under intense sniper fire when she received this info.

Yep. Hope she had her flak jacket and tissues. :)
How can you tell if Billary is telling another lie? If her lips are moving.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Raptor on April 07, 2008, 12:52:39 PM
cut her some slack..... maybe she was under intense sniper fire when she received this info.
:rofl
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2008, 12:55:00 PM
The guy who told her the story said he told her the story, and he is a sherrif in the area... sheesh.
Any excuse to bash Hillary.
Who needs an excuse? She sets herself up for failure by being a total putz.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: WWhiskey on April 07, 2008, 01:09:38 PM
You make it sound like she just makes this stuff up. The Sherrif's deputy told her the story and she repeated it. She never used the woman's name in the story, nor did she ever mention the hospital's name.


so she is running her whole campaign on second hand info? seems a little stupid i would think! if she used this as her defence on her stance in the iraq war that might be a problem!
i got it from bush, he told me to vote, "yes" so i did cause im as blind as a bat to the truth!
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: AKIron on April 07, 2008, 01:29:56 PM
You make it sound like she just makes this stuff up. The Sherrif's deputy told her the story and she repeated it.

She probably made that part up too and got a supporter to back her up.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: JBA on April 07, 2008, 01:33:58 PM
So let us put together the short list.    :lol :O  


Admitted Lies

• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)

 Whoppers She Won't Confess To

• She didn't know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).


yet her supporters will tell you Bush lied about WMDs and is therfore unfit to command. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Donzo on April 07, 2008, 01:37:16 PM
Kinda like Bush told everyone there was intel saying that Iraq had WMD's. Turned out to be false but Bush is to blame for lying right?? Can't have it both way's MT. A lie is still a lie.

Wow....MT responded to another post 26 min after this one...surely he's read this one yet no response.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: midnight Target on April 07, 2008, 01:42:42 PM
That's because I think Bush is more of an incompetent than he is a liar.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: JBA on April 07, 2008, 02:16:33 PM
That's because I think Bush is more of an incompetent than he is a liar.
No argument here, He's a cuddlinghunk.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Bodhi on April 07, 2008, 02:23:04 PM
That's because I think Bush is more of an incompetent than he is a liar.

For such an incompetent he sure has duped the nation, right?!?   :rolleyes:

Says a whole lot for those of you that feel he is incompetent.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Pooh21 on April 07, 2008, 02:59:10 PM



• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)


It would have been hilarious to have listened in on this conversation on the morning off 9/11

Chelsea:"Mom see whats going on dont worry I am ok!"
Hillary:"You %^&^#! <beeping> <beep> cant you do <dolphin chirping> do <beeping> anything right?
<dolphin chirping>That would have been my ticket to 2 no 3 <beeping> terms!!
<long  stream of invective thatwould make a drunken stevedore cover his ears in shame>
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: WWhiskey on April 07, 2008, 03:00:41 PM
It would have been hilarious to have listened in on this conversation on the morning off 9/11

Chelsea:"Mom see whats going on dont worry I am ok!"
Hillary:"You %^&^#! <beeping> <beep> cant you do <dolphin chirping> do <beeping> anything right?
<dolphin chirping>That would have been my ticket to 2 no 3 <beeping> terms!!
<long  stream of invective thatwould make a drunken stevedore cover his ears in shame>
lol how true,,,,sadly
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Hornet33 on April 07, 2008, 03:09:43 PM
For such an incompetent he sure has duped the nation, right?!?   :rolleyes:

Says a whole lot for those of you that feel he is incompetent.

 :rofl :rofl   Yeah it always seems that everyone who hates Bush thinks he's incompetent, yet he was the mastermind behind 9/11 so that him and all his "big oil" buddies could use it for an excuse to go to war and make money.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Donzo on April 08, 2008, 06:00:16 PM
That's because I think Bush is more of an incompetent than he is a liar.

Laughable and predictable.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: vorticon on April 08, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
but, has she fought off a pair of thugs with a buttcrack penknife while recovering from cancer and a scorpion bite?

amateur.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: bj229r on April 08, 2008, 07:36:59 PM
"I was named after Sir Edmund Hillary" Alas, she was 6 when he scaled Mt Everest :rofl :rofl :rofl She has a habit of saying crap like this and thinking it won't be contested...it's not the 90's anymore, and the media isn't smitten with the 'smartest woman in the country" At least Barack and McCain don't have this failing (to this degree ;))
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Jackal1 on April 08, 2008, 07:49:19 PM
"I was named after Sir Edmund Hillary" Alas, she was 6 when he scaled Mt Everest :rofl :rofl :rofl She has a habit of saying crap like this and thinking it won't be contested...it's not the 90's anymore, and the media isn't smitten with the 'smartest woman in the country" At least Barack and McCain don't have this failing (to this degree ;))

Yeah.......but...but she did throw a tantrum and throw her book bag across the dorm when she heard that MLK had been killed. What more of a patriotic action could you ask for from a candidate for Prez.

Oh wait.............McCain got the news while in a POW camp in Nam.
Nevermind.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: midnight Target on April 08, 2008, 08:02:38 PM
Laughable and predictable.

People love it when you become both funny and familiar. Please don't thank me.



Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Donzo on April 08, 2008, 08:09:18 PM
Oh, I wasn't thanking you.  I was describing you. 
But you knew that.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: AWMac on April 08, 2008, 08:09:27 PM
Google :  Vincent Foster.

Mac
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: midnight Target on April 09, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
Oh, I wasn't thanking you.  I was describing you. 
But you knew that.

And I was mocking you, but you seemed to miss that.

Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: SOB on April 09, 2008, 08:54:43 AM
Perhaps Skuzzy could sticky this one so JBA doesn't have to keep making the same thread week after week.
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: Yknurd on April 09, 2008, 12:36:24 PM
And I was mocking you, but you seemed to miss that.



Zing!
Title: Re: Ohio Hospital contests yet another Hillbillary lie
Post by: JBA on April 09, 2008, 03:53:27 PM
Perhaps Skuzzy could sticky this to Hillbillary's forehead so she will keep her mouth shut week after week.
Fixed.